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Well, back in June I met Spots for the first time. As a token of friendship he gave me a hand forged knife. I threw it in my gear bag and pretty much left it hang around doing it's thing. Well, Spots started a "Knife" pass around to test his creations by anyone brave enough to take on the task. I did not get in on the pass around. Today, I decided to "test" his knife without his knowledge or consent. So, here I go with a series of test...un-beknownst to Spots.. Spots...I do appologize in advance for this post.... Me and Buster Dawg getting ready for the test... [img]http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f397/dsayre/024-1.jpg[/img] Here is a picture of the knife. At first sight, it seems kinda odd. But in the hand, it has a weight forward feel about like a hatchet or meat cleaver. Not what I would expect of a knife. [img]http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f397/dsayre/002-4.jpg[/img] So in testing the weight of this thing, I slammed it into a stump. Well, it didn't break! That's good! [img]http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f397/dsayre/003-3.jpg[/img] So...I took this piece of seasoned red oak... [img]http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f397/dsayre/004-3.jpg[/img] And hit it one good hard time ...BINGO!! [img]http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f397/dsayre/005-2.jpg[/img] So...OK...that's cool...So I picked up a piece of unknown wood that was harder than a rock, and went to chopping away... [img]http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f397/dsayre/006-2.jpg[/img] The knife eating it's way through the wood...It was cut in two in about 2 minutes. [img]http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f397/dsayre/009-1.jpg[/img] So after I cut through it, I decided to use the knife as a splitting wedge, by beating the hell out of it with a hammer to split this log with it.. [img]http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f397/dsayre/010-1.jpg[/img] The log split.. [img]http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f397/dsayre/011-1.jpg[/img] And then I decided to just chop dirt and rocks because I was getting totaly bored with this test... [img]http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f397/dsayre/014-1.jpg[/img] I was getting angry because this knife was not failing me. So, I started beating the hell out of it with a hammer. Folks...I could do no damage to this thing other than busting the handle! Sorry Spots, but I tried to destroy this thing!! [img]http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f397/dsayre/012-1.jpg[/img] While I was testing Spot"s knife, the Old Lady called for me to come and get supper ready. For the hell of it, I threw the knife at a tree....Damn I'm Good!!! [img]http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f397/dsayre/015-3.jpg[/img] What she wanted was for me to cut up a chicken for supper. OK...cool...I can do that....so I got Spot's knife, washed it and cut right through the chicken with it...dang! [img]http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f397/dsayre/017-2.jpg[/img] Then after all the hell I put it through, I decided to see if it was still able to perform...without a flaw it did! [img]http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f397/dsayre/013-1.jpg[/img] I feel that I did all I could do to destroy this contraption of Spots, but I failed. So in discust...I exposed his knife to an IED (Improvised Explosive Device)....So, I placed an unknown amount of black powder on the ground, layed the knife upon it, and set it with a piece of fuse. Well folks, what happened next is a mere blur, as when I lit that fuse, my little She'wa'wa dog Buster ran up to the fuse and barked at it. Me and the camera man yelled at him, but to no avail! KABOOM!!!! Buster dog hit the shop door, through the doogie door at mach two and dove under the bed. Folks, I could not get that poor little doggie to come out for nothing...he was traumatized!! The explosion.... [img]http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f397/dsayre/018-1.jpg[/img] The burnt Knife Blade and crater... [img]http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f397/dsayre/021-1.jpg[/img] I could not do no damage to this knife, other than bust the handle with a direct blow by a hammer. Me and Buster Dawg after our IED test...we're done! [img]http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f397/dsayre/025-1.jpg[/img] Folks it sure was fun! His knife falls right into what I would expect of a good camp knife. The ability to whittle, chop, split and cut. It would hold up through hell I think...I'm done testing knives for awhile..... Spot's...your knife is a Satan's Tool!!! I'd buy one in a heart beat!!!! Dave S

Sorry, I will NOT buy stolen property. Just because it was stolen by a government agency does not make it right. In fact, to me, it makes it worse. All of those little pocket knives, scissors, and other items stolen by the TSA and they have yet to actually catch their first terrorist. Remind me again why we put up with this cr@p?

The part I love was the irony of the comment "children that young aren't mature enough to handle a gun." Of course they aren't, that's why you supervise them handling an unloaded firearm and teach them why they should never should handle one without an adult around. If they aren't allowed to satisfy their curiosity, they'll do it without an adult around. I keep my guns locked up, but what happens when your kid is at someone else's house and finds an unsecured firearm? The first thing they'll do is pick it up and pull the trigger if they haven't been trained not to. My father was a LEO, and when I was young he always let me handle his service weapon starting at the age of five in order to desensitize me to the allure that most children have towards firearms. It works. New Yorkers have just lost their minds.

But wait, this can't be true because [u]ALL[/u] officers are bad people. It has to be staged or something. I know what it is, the officer is "planting" the boots on the homeless guy's feet to arrest him for theft. It doesn't take a lot to change a persons day, month or even their year. And you can find all kinds of needy people right now. Those simple boots could have saved the guys life or at a minimum his feet from frost bite later in the year. $75 isn't a lot and all of us would agree that the money was well spent. Now is the time to do random things to help your fellow man. My wife and I do it, but not as often as we probably should or have in the past. I really doesn't take a lot to help someone. And it doesn't even take any money to help, we all have old jackets or clothing that can be either donated or given directly to change change lives. Dolomite

Why don't you invite us all out there for a little camping vacation?

You should insist that the complex management make to towing phone call. It's their rule to enforce and keeps you out of the line of fire from your neighbor. The beef should remain between them and the management. Not you.

You should piss in a bunch of bottles and set them back out there for them.

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[quote name='Chucktshoes' timestamp='1354252302' post='852733'] Somebody forgot the rule of "SSS". The burglars had it coming, I have no concern or care for them. The old man should have just bought a couple of hacksaw blades and a few extra gallons of bleach. Problem solved, problem staying solved. [/quote] Dunno if that would have helped either, since he had the Ron White problem: "I had the right to remain silent, but not the ability". - OS

A field repair kit like the one linked below and bolt would cover the majority of issues that would be field repairable. [URL]http://www.midwayusa.com/Product/172307/bushmaster-field-repair-kit-ar-15[/URL]

My personal favorite: http://youtu.be/A5PrqQLWmoU

Seems ol' Merle has a broblem keeping his hands attached. LOL

[quote name='HvyMtl' timestamp='1354230256' post='852576'] For those of you who didnt catch what I linked, it is a response for review process for Security Clearances. Although they did not come out and say the security clearances would be revoked for signing a petition, they do go on to say it will be reviewed. I am in agreement. It should be reviewed, and your security clearance should be revoked for acting in such manner. [/quote] Why don't we just execute them or stone them? Free thinking alert - grab that guy and stone him! Yeah, the bunch that's in there running things now is such a model of tight security and pro-America, pro-Constitution.

What I do to figure out the maximum range is set the target up at 50 yards. The target you use should be the same size as the intended target. I start by shooting a single shot at 10 yards. I fire then I count and mark my hits on target. Then I move back to 15 yards and shoot again. Then to 20 yards. Once I miss the target with at least one pellet I consider that as the maximum effective range. At least for self defense purposes. Dolomite

10' is like 3 steps. You might need to return that shotgun and take up another hobby.

I can guarantee I will use every tool and every ounce of being to get my stuff back up to intentionally taking a life. And the reason I won't intentionally take a life is because of some moral obligation to let a criminal live but because I cannot provide for or protect my family if I am in jail. Dolomite

A man could make a lot of money by setting up a UPS store kiosk at busy airports.

[quote name='rebeldrummer' timestamp='1354213347' post='852479'] retracted.... [/quote] Once you show your pecker in the Internet, it's there forever [IMG]http://i899.photobucket.com/albums/ac195/mikegideon1/brett-favre-o-face.jpg[/IMG]

I agree with those that say this should be supplemented with other things. However, I think the main reason for this is the fact that it is affordable for most anyone, as simple as can be, and will keep someone alive for a very extended amount of time. For someone getting started on stocking food, it'd be a great base. ~$300 and you'd be set for roughly a year. That's less than $1 a day. That looks a whole lot better vs starting out stocking some of the other methods at $5 or more per meal for a family.

[quote name='K191145' timestamp='1354207383' post='852443'] I'm just assuming, and maybe an LEO can verify it but either anger control is part of the training or should be. I actually applaud LEO's who remain in control of their anger when detaining someone who wants to fight, may have punched them in the face or spit on them etc. I don't know if I would be able to control my anger with some of the video's i've seen of some suspects and I do realize they often have to get very physical with some of them to subdue them. It's just hard to imagine that a security guard and two other employees had to use a hold that many police departments have banned to subdue one man and the force in which it seems was applied. A logical theory might be that the security guard was punched in the face which understandably caused alot of anger so when he applied the choke hold he used more force than needed and for a longer time than needed, his anger controlled him. I also have to assume that a choke hold is banned by many police departments because it's potentially dangerous and could cause harm or death.[/quote] You still have no idea how he died.

[quote name='LngRngShtr' timestamp='1354206243' post='852437'] 350 to 400 ft. lbs of energy 1100 to 1250 fps. through a barrel at 33 ft. then 3 1/2 walls at 100 yds... so we learn (?) that 9mm FMJ with a residual 280 ft lbs +/- or so will go through 3 1/2 walls as long as you don't find a stud and[b][i] the slug doesn't tumble[/i][/b].... and yes don't be a dumbass have a decent backstop.. “The round entered through the exterior wall at the [b]back[/b] of the house, then traveled through the dining room, into the living room through a doorway, into the [b]north[/b] wall of the living room, which is adjacent to a bedroom, through an interior wall, exited the interior wall into that bedroom and embedded itself into the [b][i]east[/i][/b] exterior wall of the house,” so the shot impacted diagonally through the house,... and didn't deflect due to angular impact ? have seen bullets do interesting things not arguing with what happened just sayin it is interesting given the limited information we have. [/quote] My money says they missed the barrel with that round that went thru the house.

I was in 1WTC the morning of September 11. I watched the planes go in and the buildings go down. I spent 9 months at Ground Zero looking at the devastation caused by that attack for 18 hours a day. I don't have to close my eyes to see it now. I can still smell it. I can say for certain that I have not been as safe on an airplane as I was on September 10, 2001 when I flew with a full sized Spyderco clipped to my pocket. If we wanted the airlines to be safe, we wouldn't use a government jobs program to do it. We'd let the airlines provide for their own security and suffer market consequences for lapses. Security theather is okay for pacifying the majority of the population and keeping up the illusion that we care. Just don't confuse it with actually being safe.

If I had to travel to a place like that I would have to take my cane with me because my knee really acts up when I get in a "gun free" zone. Other than that remember that situational awareness is your #1 defense.

[quote name='vontar' timestamp='1354148082' post='852134'] Jayc, you nailed it. I was going to say something about FFL transfer but you went well beyond what I was thinking. [/quote] Yeah it just doesn't make sense... How on earth do you get enough scrap metal out of a gun to cover the cost or running a program like this? My guess, the firearms are likely kept in a warehouse somewhere... probably costing taxpayers a lot of money.

I hope so too. The government doesn't have an income problem, they have a spending problem. It's mind boggling the money they waste on pork, stupid research grants on how Monarch butterflies mate, giving tens of billions in aid to foreign countries and your earned money to citizens who have no Constitutional or moral right to it.

There's a bunch of people who's profiles I look at daily. Because I like to. [IMG]http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll194/dkyancy/Funny%20Stuff/internet-creeper.jpg[/IMG]

So I had an interesting PM this morning. One of our members who has worked in the private security industry called the regulatory board that oversees licensing for such things in Tennessee and learned that someone in this thread, who has been very vocal and claims to currently work private security, is NOT licensed in the state of Tennessee. It seems his armed guard license expired on February 28th, 2009. I'm not naming names, but clearly there is some interest in whether people are full of it or not and I wanted to throw this out there. Point being, either someone here is telling stories that aren't true or they're not operating within the law and maybe they should get that fixed. Just a friendly reminder that on the Internet there are both posers and professionals. The professionals [b][u]are[/u][/b] watching.

I still think the TSA should sell those Post Office "If it fits, it ships" boxes to passengers and let them mail it back home. Now, they collect the items and take them to the dumpster, with my idea they collect the boxes and take them to the airport mail drop. It would go a long way to fostering good feelings with the TSA.

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My liberal sister-in-law from Pennsylvania wants me to take her. Maybe it's time.

[quote name='scoutfsu' timestamp='1354155037' post='852198']TMF, Because people like the OP have all sorts of grudges for all sorts of reasons. Bank on the fact that because it was a WalMart, people will feel like they're sticking it to big business too. Look at the people in this thread that are lamenting this criminal.....even though in the commission of a criminal act he initiated, then escalated to battery.....things went wrong. As a result of his direct, criminal actions - things spun out of control and he ended up dead. [/quote] I believe you are correct.

[quote name='GoneBallistic' timestamp='1354109015' post='851838'] .... My price range is $1000 +- [/quote] Get three Hi-Point carbines and use the rest for mags/ammo, outfit your own squad for the coming meltdown! - OS

He's got the best looking woman of anybody in any episode.

We went to the Loudon firing range today to test out the new Marlin. I have to say that I am happy with the purchase. It was fun. Still not scoped. We also brought the Phonix Arms hp22, that is what Penny shot. We did not fire many rounds, but we still had fun and relaxing time. She is getting better at not being scared of the fire arm and she even said she had fun. The below is the Marlin Model 795 and assorted items. We kind of spread out. [img]http://thriftywebdesign.net/images/misc/marlinrange11_28_12.jpg[/img] Below is me firing from I make a guess of around 25yrds? I have really got to start bringing something to measure with. [img]http://thriftywebdesign.net/images/misc/memarlinrange11_28_12.jpg[/img]

Deer are everywhere. What would possess a man to kill such an uncommonly rare animal? I feel safe in assuming they won't taste any better. I have no true gripe as long as the law on the book is not broken, but I can't see a reasonable explanation as to the why.

[quote]How is this NOT illegal.[/quote] It should be. I recently saw a special where they had Ipads in baggage that didn't make it to the destination. The agenst stole them. They had locating beepers on them and found 1 at dude's house. Of course he didn't know how it got there. It was like the "to catch a predator" set ups.

Honestly, I don't care who I offend. If one if the things I mention happens to fit you, then you need to learn how to drive. If you can't keep your vehicle from randomly crossing the center line, you're a moron. If you tailgate me when I'm not the one slowing traffic, you're a moron. If you tailgate me just because you're too dense to get in the left lane and pass me, you're a moron. If you hang out in the left lane right beside someone who is in the right lane, you're a moron. If you pass me in the left lane and dart in front of me when it would have been easier for both of us if you had just gotten in behind me, you're a moron. If you make a left turn from the right lane (or primary lane, when there is a turn lane), you're a moron. Same goes for right turns from the left. I've only scratched the surface of the idiocy that I see on the road. We on this forum constantly harp and chide others for doing stupid things with firearms, and rightly so. But far too often poor, dangerous driving just elicits a "meh". I speak of the public in general and not necessarily here. But cars carry far more killing potential than do even the most powerful firearms. Put it this way... If a cop spots me carrying a gun in my hand while I'm strolling down the sidewalk in town, he's going to at least stop and see what I'm up to. However, if he spots someone 5 feet from my bumper on I-40 at 60 mph, chances are he'll ignore it. Speeding, on the other hand, which isn't necessarily dangerous in and of itself, is often grounds for a blue light. Society tends to dismiss road deaths as the "cost of doing business". Or lawmakers try to idiot-proof vehicles instead of taking the idiots out of them. We wouldn't even need to wear seatbelts if everyone would just drive like they have half a brain. Can you tell this a sore subject for me?

[quote name='seez52' timestamp='1354025764' post='851264'] thanks for the feedback, this is actually going to be for a lady. Seemed to me the grip on the Smith might have been a bit smaller. Opinions on having a night sight installed? I think maybe the LCR is the only one with that option. [/quote] If it's for a lady, let her pick.

At any rate, a great loss to society for sure. He mighta cured cancer or paid taxes someday.

I kinda look at Chicago like I look at a restaurant with a "No Guns" sign. I won't go! Find another gun friendly place to spend you $$$!

Welcome, I have family there, Greensboro and Charlotte, area, my Dad is from there.

I would just do one of the alternatives like a good pepper spray, would rather have something to fall back on than to stick with hope.

As to the round count, my own personal opinion is that there is a fine line between shooting enough to work the skills and shooting so much that all you are doing is taking up time making noise.A high round count is an easy way to hide deficiencies in curriculum.There are those who subscribe tp the idea of "If you run out of things to teach...just have 'em shoot more". On the other hand if we are teaching a class on how to lower your split times in an IPSC match, then yes a 4 digit round count is useful. On the other hand you can shoot on your own time. You come to class to learn to shoot better sure, but also to learn how to run the rifle (which amazingly enough does not require it to go BANG everytime), and to learn tactics and strategy . But the gun actually going BANG is just the last part of a chain of events. And there is actually a diminishing returns on number of rounds fired. There is a "sweet spot" in number of rounds where you are shooting enough to "get it" and then there is shooting so much that all you are doing is "more of the same". There is a lot more to it than just shooting. To steal a line from someone else...."most people spend 95% of their time working on the last 5% of the solution." I think a better use of your time is to look at the first 95% in context and then have a better grasp of the last 5%. As to the distance in combat, Gabe did the research on that. It has been a generally accepted maxim since the early 90s when I got into it that rifle engagements are typically 50 meters or less. They actually taught us that in ROTC. The days of trench warfare and 800 yard volley fire had been over since 1918, no one was engaging each other across the plains of Europe, and the Soviets never rolled through the Fulda gap. What was being seen was jungle and urban fighting in SE Asia, South America, Africa, and the Middle East. None of that was involving 600 meter shots unless you consider snipers who are a very specailized combat tool. But on that subject lets look at real live bad ass steely eyed death dealing snipers like Vasily Zaytsev and what the typical distance he shot Germans at in Stalingrad......well under 100 meters. Mechanized warfare in built up areas in the late 20th and early 21st century (OTHER THAN AFGHANISTAN) did not require a lot of CMP style marksmanship. It required more fire and manuever at ranges generally under 100 yards. Now lets spin it back around to 99.99% of the people reading this. In civilian USA what is the typical police sniper shot? About 50 yards. That is PISTOL range for some people. How big is your yard? How long is the longest shot you can take in your house? How far will you actually be taking a shot at someone who is assaulting you? How are you going to articulate in court a 225 yard shot ? What scenario do you REALLY see yourself actually engaging someone at distances over 50 yards? I'm not saying it CAN'T happen, I'm saying it is very unlikely in civlian world and in military world it is not super common either in urban areas, wooded areas , or jungle. Short of a straight up "end of the world as we know it" scenario, we as civilians will be far more likely to use a rifle at less than 25 yards than we will be to ever use it at more than 25 yards. As such we need to put a premium on cover (because getting behind things that stop bullets is good for you) , movement (because not being in front of their muzzle is good for you) manipulations (because all that time you are taking to fidgit with your gun is time the gun is out of the fight), and learning what is "fast and good enough" vs "slow and perfect". Fast good enough hits beat slow perfect hits. If you are still lining up the shot after he has shot you twice then your accurate shots will never get sent to him. On the other hand fast misses rarely advance your cause. So we learn perfection...and then step away from it as necessary. At 25 yards or less....perfection is rarely needed with a rifle. I hope that kind of anwers some of your question. A 2 minute discussion can take 10 pages to type and I'm trying to keep it short and readable. I'd love to discuss it with you in class!

Here's one to make for dinner not as an actual holiday meal but one for the season that is quick and good: [b]Pork Tenderloin in Cranberry Sauce[/b] - Ingredients 1-1.5 lbs pork tenderloin (1.5 T butter, divided) (1 t rosemary, 1 T balsamic vinegar) 1/2 c chopped onion 1/2 c chicken broth 1/2 c whole berry cranberry sauce (Salt & pepper) Melt 1 T butter in ovenproof skillet. Sear pork on all sides about 2 minutes. Place skillet with pork in oven and roast at 450° until pork reaches 160°, about 25-30 min. Melt remaining butter in another skillet. Add onion and rosemary. Sauté 3 minutes. Add broth, cranberry sauce and vinegar. Whisk until cranberry sauce melts. Transfer pork to platter and pour juices into cranberry mixture. Boil until sauce will coat a spoon, about 6 minutes. Season with salt and pepper. Slice pork & serve with sauce. Here's a pic, this is a little bit heavy with the sauce though cause I like it to be sweeter [img]https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/178468_3754709711073_88082534_o.jpg[/img]