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Folks;   I would like to propose a moratorium on pejorative "creative" misspellings.  Specifically, pejorative misspellings of proper names like turning Diane Feinstein into Diane Fineswine or Swinestein, and turning Liberal into Libtard or Libturd and so forth.   Sure, those little things feel good when you do them.  They are a guilty indulgence that expresses your contempt for these people or things, however I also believe that they make the author look childish and cause the mainstream fence-sitters to automatically write us off as frustrated juveniles with an inability to articulate our thoughts and opinions without resorting to schoolyard taunts and mockery.  When we do this, we discredit ourselves.   It's no secret that the Left has made a career history of establishing itself in the eyes of the public as the "Mental Elite".  They have carefully ensconced themselves in the towers of academia and use this vantage point to lord over and brow beat us -- their adversaries -- and paint us as knuckle-dragging neanderthals with room-temperature IQs.  It is my opinion that we play into their hands when we resort of using pejorative misspellings of their names and they casually dismiss it as being about as base level as a fart joke.    We need to rise above that.  We need to conduct ourselves smartly and remind society that just because we value the Constitution, we are not a bunch of mouth breathing pinheads.   Further, it makes it impossible for a person to search TGO's contents and accurately find articles of interest by using key words when those key words may have been intentionally misspelled by the author who thought it was funny or cute.   So, there it is.  I would appreciate it if everyone would please join me in this.  I have been as guilty of these things as the next person, but I am personally committing to rising above the petty name calling and instead will be focusing even more on letting the substance of my words illustrate how despicable the subject of my derision is.   Thanks. :)      

  If you're on the Internet at all, that ship has sailed.

Today I celebrated Gun Appreciation Day like several hundred other Tennesseans - by driving into Nashville and attending the pro-Second Amendment rally that took place at War Memorial Plaza.  I know many of our members don't live within easy driving distance of Nashville and have busy schedules, so I thought I would describe what went on for those who were unable to attend.   When I arrived at noon there was a surprisingly large crowd already gathered on the Plaza.  The turnout was inspiring.  There were Liberty Riders (bikers), veterans and representatives from veterans' groups, whole families, and single people.  The crowd was not heavily skewed by one age group - I would say about a quarter of those in attendance were over 60.  The best was seeing how many people brought their whole family, and especially their kids.   There were numerous "Don't Tread on Me" flags, American flags, and some great homemade signs - my favorite was a simple white poster with the following words in black: "Fear the Government that Fears Your Guns."  There were certainly some "amens" throughout, and some clearly riled up people, but the whole bunch was well mannered and respectful throughout.  There were no opposition protesters that I saw.   A man was addressing the crowd by PA system when I showed up.  He shortly introduced John Harris, who I understand is in charge of the Tennessee Firearms Association.  Mr. Harris spoke several times throughout the event and struck me as a confident, capable leader.  The other speakers included State Senator Bill Ketron, and State Representative Joe Carr (who proposed the bill to nullify any new firearm-related promulgation from the Obama administration).  Representative Carr had some very good things to say about the Second Amendment, as well as some stirring remarks on Tennessee and its duty to stand up to federal tyranny.   Perhaps the most moving speaker was a lady Tennessean (I believe her name was Nikki Gosser) whose husband was murdered right in front of her.  She is a HCP holder but was unarmed at the time of the murder because she and her husband were working in a bar (this was several years ago before carry in bars was legal).  Her story obviously drove home the point that the kind of restrictions proposed in Washington only really hurt the good folks who follow the letter of the law.  I really liked that she called out the bias of the media and lamented how unfairly we are treated in the court of public opinion today.   As the event concluded we joined hands and sang a patriotic song.  Standing there looking out over the crowd I actually choked up and couldn't sing.  It was an amazing experience and one I won't soon forget.  I made some new friends today and look forward to attending the next similar rally next month and seeing some familiar faces.  What I saw and heard today reaffirmed my commitment to standing up for our rights and enjoying liberty to the fullest, and it's comforting to know that there are so many others out there who feel the same way.  

And that is a deal even in normal times.   Just remember the shop during fairer times. Shops do not need us right now but when things settle back to normal they, without a doubt, need our money to stay in business. We, as gun owners, forget who upset us last month if they have a sale this month. I do not and refuse to buy from anyone who I think has done me wrong. And accordingly my list of "acceptable" shops continues to get smaller and smaller.   Dolomite

[quote name="MattCary" post="889662" timestamp="1358612717"][/quote]Israeli chicks are hot.

Has an incident today where some kid in a parking lot tried to throw a rock at his sister and missed and cracked my windshield. Long story short I had to call Smyrna police for a report lady and kid left the area, When the officer showed up I gave him my ID and told him I was carrying. He asked where on me and what it was and then said If you don't draw i want. He filled out an incident report and then told me Smyrna has him carrying a Springfield and really wanted to carry his Glock. Shot the breeze for a bit and went on or way. Great guy he did Smyrna proud.

treat your carry gun with a don't ask, don't tell mentality.  And don't check or touch it at a gun show unless you need to defend yourself.   I could not agree more with David's post.

I just don't even have words. And people look at me like I've got a third arm growing out of my forehead when I tell them that I absolutely support the Second Amendment but wouldn't be caught dead doing a "Carry Rally" or other such thing where there's a chance that some some jackass novice will be fingering his handgun and send a round off into the crowd accidentally. I also don't get what the deal is with these people checking their carry firearms at door of gun shows. I've never done that. My carry weapon isn't going into a show to be sold; It's going into a show on my person should I need it to defend myself. Having some doofus at the door run a zip-tie through the action is counter productive to the intended purpose of my firearm. Worse yet the chance that said doofus will negligently discharge my weapon into his own stupid ass or someone/something nearby. No way in hell am I letting them even handle my carry weapon. If they don't want me carrying there, then I don't want to be patronizing their gun show. GAH!!! Stupid frickin people!!!

Yet another reason I never drink in public. I drink at home, alone. When I leave home I am dead sober and armed. Kinda makes you think huh? Could have been you and the wife in there ten minutes earlier.

Appears to have been an assault style bubble gun. Note the pistol grip and splash suppressor.

Pictures from event... Just the cutest little girl!!! Me and my son...

Well, we are just visitors here.

Did not live up to it's hype. They skipped a lot of important parts to add in some boring dialogue.   I hope the sequel is better.

as a former NYker........Im glad I moved  :)

I for one approve of the fact that we're not being bombarded with pictures and stories of the fu&$ stick. That's exactly what these lunatics want, recognition. I'm sure the right people are well informed and still gathering information, information that won't be kept private per say but also thankfully isn't being blasted all over by the mainstream media, feeding the twisted egos of other degenerate losers. I'm all for freedom of information, but in this case I say let people work for it. Don't turn these psycho's into celebrities.

Well I can't imagine why anyone would need more than 7 rounds ..... Seems fair to me. I'm sure the criminals will only have 7 rounds too so it should create and even playing field. /sarcasm

It was a tragedy for everybody, and a great opportunity for some. But, why would these caring commies manipulate the information? They have been so honest with everything else, like F&F and Benghazi.

And yet another reason to NEVER go to new york!

Just saw this on The Muzzleloading Forum & thought it may interest a few here......   http://youtu.be/sbxKbI9Ik4o

[quote name="PapaB" post="890166" timestamp="1358650165"]I was the guy on the mobility scooter. My wife and I got there just as Hickok arrived and we both took the opportunity to shake hands with him and thank him for the great videos. I was impressed by the turnout with such relatively short notice, Tennessee was well represented by its' 2nd Amendment supporters today. I noted that we didn't need teleprompters for the Pledge of Allegiance. Do you hear me Mr. Prez?[/quote]Nor for America The Beautiful. Libs would need a lifeline call to a friend with internet access to finish the Pledge.

  Q: How can I reduce the amount of mail I receive from the NRA? A: Simply email us at membership@nrahq.org or dial 800-NRA-3888 and request to be placed on the "Do Not Promote" list. This will significantly reduce the amount of mail you receive without affecting important mailings, magazine service, or your membership renewal.

It seems that Andy asked Barney and Goober to safety check firearms. It's too early to say what really happened. I know there was an incredibly long line to get in and the Fire Marshal was there counting heads. Panic buying like I have never seen in my life. Not from gun owners, we already own guns, but from non-gun owners. People who have never owned a gun in their lives. It is crazy how people love the Second Amendment, now that it is under threat from Her Obama.   http://www.wral.com/two-people-injured-in-shooting-at-raleigh-gun-show/12000843/

"Modern democrat's" (aka American communists) aren't going to be satisfied until all privately owned firearms in this nation are outlawed & confiscated. A main portion of their modus operandi has been to try to make the public afraid at the very sight/thought of a firearm in the hands of anyone & everyone who is not wearing a uniform, so how exactly would you propose to counter the public's unfounded fears other than a "show & tell" effort by regular, every day, law-abiding gun owners? One guy doing it is silly & of course it is easy for "them" to make him look like a lone psycho, but I believe that it would be extremely effective, prehaps even a game changer if a million or so of us all started doing it ...

Look at it this way. If they sale the stuff for less than market value, someone else (private citizen) will just buy everything they have for sale and then mark it up themselves.   Free market at work.

The hand-wringers & bed-wetters have already won if we refuse to publically excersize our 2nd Amendment out of fear of their fear. I say enough is enough with the "we must walk on egg-shells" mentality, it hasn't done us any good so far, so maybe it is time to try something different.

You are correct, but you have to choose. The chances of having a mass shooting at your kid’s school are probably less likely than you winning Powerball. That won’t help if your child is killed.   I think the answer is to remove the gun free zone status. However I am absolutely sure that will not ever happen; the parents won’t stand for it. They also won’t stand for untrained people carrying guns around their kids. So it’s either pay the money to have trained professionals, get those teachers that are willing the best training available in their area, or do nothing.

  No, the reason we tend to lose is best described by Ben Shapiro:   "Power derives from institutions.  The right thinks individually; the left thinks institutionally.  And so the left wields more power, and therefore has more opportunity to bully."     They operate as a collective.  Their goals are socialist at the core, and socialism is a collective effort.  Our goals are for greater independence, and as a result we tend not to rally together around a common purpose as they do -- or at least not with the same efficacy as they do.   Your dissent in this thread is a perfect example.  I'm not saying you have to agree with me in the least, but it is definitely a great illustration of independent personal belief trumping what might be for the common good.

My mom is a retired high school teacher.I grew up learning of school frustrations.Be advised,a teachers near poverty salary would barely allow for personal range time,training,and no less the purchase of  any firearm. I know of a student who enrolled in davidson county's public school system.He didnt have books for 2 weeks due to a shortage of books.The reason given was "we dont have any extra books because funds wont allow for it". Were talking about public school teachers just to be clear. Next issue is insurance.Dont think for a minute it wont go up and someone will have to pay.Its a risk management issue.People forget about the necessary evils. Id love to see teachers driving tanks to some schools, having an rpg in the corner with a taser gun in a holster would barely be a  deterrent in some schools Trust me some need it.Even in middle tn.   David Shepard should really lean towards allowing teachers to make the choice especially if theres no SRO or other officer on a beat closeby.Carry should be allowed in schools with reasonable parameters. Idiots with boxcutters took our country down with a handful of planes,and now were dealing with the aftermath created by a nut who got mommy's guns...better to be proactive with a deterrent,than letting the media handle the effect of negligent. Someone should also remind him that Americas ROE policy has been to avoid houses of worship,schools,and civilians. The bad guys know this and use it to their advantage.We've been lucky Rules of Engagement dont exist with morons on a mission.Schools need to be tight.Let MS (or MR) Crabtree decide on her own...;)

  Are you familiar with Leonard Embody? Just because one can do something doesn't always mean that one should.   And I believe calling another TGO member a name is against TOS.   So, lighten up, Francis.

  I know this one guy that will probably NEVER get caught without an AR again :rofl:

A lot of folks that are buying right now are the ones that just didn't get around to it before. They waited because they believed AR's would always be available. This isn't just a panic. It's a real threat that could STILL result in a ban. I'm not sure you'll see a big selloff if the threat goes away. It's just too real this time. I also believe that the buying will hold out longer for the same reason. Supply will eventually catch up with demand if a ban fails. But, I think it will be a long time before you have a bunch of folks that think "I can always get one tomorrow".

I think the movie wasn't good at all! It was TOO long and the part everyone went to see, the raid itself, was just funny to me. I was in the Army for 12 years as a UH/MH-60A/L/K crew chief aka door gunner and spent 9 years in and medically retired from the 160th SOAR(A) and I still don't believe the story of that raid. I still talk to guys there OFTEN and know most of the guys there on the blackhawk side and they don't believe in that "stealth hawk". Now I know what "compartmentalization" is but even with that I have problems with the "stealth hawk" from a could it work point of view. When I analyze that aircraft I have a hard time believing the rest of the "official" story.....but then I'm just a retired "conspiracy theorist" lol

We do it here in TN ALL the time as well...  And the fact is police officers and former police officer are convicted of crimes at a much higher rate per capita than HCP permit holders, and even the public in general.   Yet, people are afraid of us having firearms on us :)      

Yes, if you sit down to a Nutnfancy review, you'll be there a while. He's thorough, real thorough. Butt going to sleep in the chair thorough. I saw your rhino review and liked it. Now I want one. Thanks for posting, it was informative and enjoyable. I hope I didn't come off snarky in my previous post. It was my attempt to bring the thread back on track.

I have noticed how the conversations have changed significantly from +24 hours after Sandy Hook, to +1 month after Sandy Hook.  I have to agree with the OP, I too have over heard many conversations in similiar fashion.  I have jumped in when and where I could.  Momentum is shifting, but I do have to pinch myself, this is Tennessee (a heavily conservative state). 

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Dr. Hupps previous testimony has to be the single most impressive thing I've ever heard regarding control/ownership.   POWERFUL!   Jeff

Think real hard about small-of-back carry.  It's not nearly as accessible, secure, or concealable as you think.  It also really, really hurts if you fall on it.... AMHIK.  If that's the only spot you've got room in your pants for the gun, I'd strongly recommend you consider larger pants or OWB.  That said, I have crossbreed and a galco that work pretty well.

I've sent Corker, Alexander, and Desjarlais several emails. Only heard back from Alexander. I have no experience with calling, but am open to do it. Actually, can anyone give me the best way to do that? I suppose call their office and leave a message? Is that what to expect?

And this .... January 14, 2013 Dear xxxxx Thanks very much and letting me know what’s on your mind regarding the right to bear arms. I’m a strong supporter of Second Amendment rights. Congress should not pass laws that take away these rights from law abiding citizens and leave criminals to terrorize the streets. Good citizens don’t abuse guns – criminals do. I will continue to support legislative efforts to protect the Second Amendment rights of law abiding Americans, and oppose efforts to overturn the Second Amendment. In two recent cases, the U.S. Supreme Court clearly held that the Second Amendment protects the right of individual Americans to keep and bear arms. In the 2008 case, D.C. v. Heller, the Supreme Court held that D.C.’s restrictive gun laws violated the constitutional rights of Americans. Two years later, in McDonald v. Chicago, the court struck down the city of Chicago’s handgun ban and held that, like the federal government, state and local governments must respect Second Amendment rights. I joined legal briefs in both cases in defense of this constitutional right and was pleased with the Supreme Court’s decisions. I am grateful you took the time to let me know where you stand. I’ll be sure to keep your comments in mind as Second Amendment rights are discussed and debated in Washington and in Tennessee. Sincerely, Lamar

Called senators today. I've previously sent multiple e-mails to every politician I could think of; and have encouraged co-workers, church-goers, and family to do likewise.   I make it a point to thank gun-related businesses for their support, specifically if they've made news while supporting the second amendment. I invited Remington to move to Tennessee. I've responded to polls and petitions out the wazoo. I've bought more gun stuff. (Don't tell my better half!)   Not likely to make Nashville tomorrow, as we already made other plans for Gun Appreciation Day. Will try to at least hit the local gun shops.

  No, that's a lot of bull from people who have never been in a self-defense shooting.  Remain armed until the police get there and have control of the situation.  Do you want to be unarmed if the person you just defended yourself against has friends, family, accomplices nearby who are unhappy about you doing what you just did?   Nope.  Remain armed.  Disarm when instructed by the police.   Edited to add:  I often see comments from folks saying they're not going to throw their nice Nighthawk 1911 or whatever on the ground when the police get there because it's too nice / pretty / expensive.  When the police are arriving, holster your firearm before they get out of their car.  Hands up and wait for instruction.  If they tell you to unholster and throw it to the ground, throw it to the ground.  If they tell you to lay it on the ground slowly, do it slowly.  If they tell you to tap dance and pat your belly at the same time, do that too.   Bottom line being, your stupid high-end boutique firearm isn't worth you getting shot over.  If it's so concerning that your gun might get scratched, don't carry it.  If you think it  might go off when dropped or tossed to the pavement, don't carry it.  Good guns don't go off when dropped.   Do whatever the nice police officers tell you to do, following their instructions to the letter, and keep your mouth shut until asked to speak.  And even then limit what you say.  You were in fear for your life, that guy over there in a pile is the guy who attacked you, and you'll be GLAD to cooperate with the police after your attorney is present.  You are in no state of mind to say anything else without your attorney present.  Period.   Establish that you're the good guy, point out the bad guy, point out the knife or gun or ball bat or chain or axe or whatever he was about to attack you with, and then shut your hole.

C'mon guys, he only used the knife to pry the lid open. I'm pretty sure a couple more rubs on the curb & his thumbnail would've worked.

Interesting but he did use a tool, a knife.  I've opened plenty of cans with knife and nothing else.  A good nugget of information to tuck away though.  Thanks.

i have nosler hollow points balistic tips vmax soft point and fmjfrom 8.5 cents to 15 cents each

I don't know about 10 rounders but I bet if you setup a table at the next New York gun show with a sign saying "Buying your high capacity mags" you might do pretty well.

I would love to buy Pmags for $14 like I did before CT but even then, some places had a regular price of $20. To me, is a Pmag worth a $20 bill? Yep. So if I needed a couple extra at $30 or $40 now, I would pay it, just wouldn't smile quite so big. That being said, I would NOTpay $85 and up as some have lately, I will leave that to the rich, needy, or dumb, whichever describes the buyer.

On one hand, as an investment and as insurance against breakage and wear, You can never have too many.   BUT....I think some of us [up until recently I was very much guilty of this] need to be honest with themselves.  How long do you expect to last hashing it out with some form of opposition.  Fire fights are over fast.  Lives are over just as fast.  I won't last long unless I'm taking on geriatric zombies.  SO, 10-12 magazines per rifle is MORE than enough.  I can only speak for Caster, but I doubt I'll last long enough to do a mag change.  I'll either be dead or using my French military tactics.  I keep 12 for ever rifle and 6 for every pistol.