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Yes.   Scenario                 1: Jack goes quail hunting before school and then pulls into the school parking lot with his shotgun in his truck's gun rack.. 1957 - Vice Principal comes over, looks at Jack's shotgun, goes to his car and gets his shotgun to show Jack. 2013 - School goes into lock down, FBI called, Jack hauled off to jail and never sees his truck or gun again. Counselors called in for traumatized students and teachers.      Scenario                 2: Johnny and Mark get into a fist fight after school. 1957 - Crowd gathers. Mark wins. Johnny and Mark shake hands and end up buddies. 2013 - Police called and SWAT team arrives -- they arrest both Johnny and Mark.  They are both charged with assault and both expelled even though Johnny started it.  They are also required to attend six weeks of anger management therapy.   Scenario                 3: Jeffrey will not be still in class, he disrupts other students. 1957 - Jeffrey sent to the Principal's office and given a good paddling by the Principal. He then returns to class, sits still and does not disrupt class again.                 2013 - Jeffrey is given huge doses of Ritalin. He becomes a zombie. He is then tested for ADD. The family gets extra money (SSI) from the government because Jeffrey has a disability.    Scenario                 4: Billy breaks a window in his neighbor's car and his Dad gives him a whipping with his belt.                 1957 - Billy is more careful next time, grows up normal, goes to college and becomes a successful businessman..  2013 - Billy's dad is arrested for child abuse, Billy is removed to foster care and joins a gang. The state psychologist is told by Billy's sister that she remembers being abused herself and their dad goes to prison.   Scenario                 5: Mark gets a headache and takes some aspirin to school. 1957 - Mark shares his aspirin with the Principal out on the smoking dock. 2013 - The police are called and Mark is expelled from school for drug violations. His car is then searched for drugs and weapons.                    Scenario                 6: Pedro fails high school English. 1957 - Pedro goes to summer school, passes English and goes to college. 2013 - Pedro's cause is taken up by state. Newspaper articles appear nationally explaining that teaching English as a requirement for graduation is racist. ACLU files class action lawsuit against the state school system and Pedro's English teacher. English is then banned from core curriculum. Pedro is given his diploma anyway but ends up mowing lawns for a living because he cannot read & write English.                   Scenario                 7: Johnny takes apart leftover firecrackers from the Fourth of July, puts them in a model airplane paint bottle and blows up a red ant bed. 1957 - Ants die. 2013 - ATF, Homeland Security and the FBI are all called. Johnny is charged with domestic terrorism.  The FBI investigates his parents - and all siblings are removed from their home and all computers are confiscated.   Scenario                 8: Johnny falls while running during recess and scrapes his knee.  He is found crying by his teacher, Mary. Mary hugs him to comfort him. 1957 - In a short time, Johnny feels better and goes on playing.                 2013 - Mary is accused of being a sexual predator and loses her job. She faces 3 years in State Prison. Johnny undergoes 5 years of therapy.     

I was going to a Mom and Pop restaurant for many years and it was never posted. Then all at once I go there and it is posted. I spoke to the manager and he said that a few of his customers were complaining about seeing customers with guns and it was alarming to them because of their children. I said well I have been eating here for about 10 years and no one has ever seen my gun. He asked me what he could do to keep his business and not lose any customers so I offered him and option. I recommended posting his business as a Concealed Carry only restaurant and see how well that works. Next time I went there the sign read Concealed Carry Only. The place was packed with customers no one knew who was armed and who was not. The manager stopped by my table just after the waitress put my ticket on my table and he picked it up and thanked me as he has been seeing as increase in his business since re-posting and he liked my idea. I think if managers are willing to listen to other alternatives than just posting No Guns it can help both the HCP people and the businesses...........jmho

[quote name="Oh Shoot" post="1133382" timestamp="1396497948"]Ivan Lopez. Deployed to Iraq in '11, no physical wounds. Married, "wife doesn't speak English very well", a kid or three, hadn't been in town very long came from another post. Was under diagnosis process for mental probs, had a script for something in meantime. Used a "Smith and Wesson .45 semi-auto". - OS[/quote] Deployed for four months during drawdown and likely never heard gunfire that wasnt on a range. I'm tired of the press jumping on the PTSD thing. It's bullcrap. It assumes no one was an unstable nutbag before they joined the military. Having seen a person kill themselves after being in the Army for less than a week, I'm gonna assume law of averages when you have an organization that has employed millions and millions of Americans in the past decade and a half. Gonna be a few looneys in the bunch. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Well i've decided not to glue myself to the news right now while they are in hyper-speculation mode, i'll wait a while until they get a few facts and stay away from the major liberal opinion channels like BSNBC and CNN ect. They did announce that BoBo the clown was going to make a statement, which I will not watch because of the high chance that he will politically exploit this incident. Like it happened an hour ago and he can't wait to get in front of the camera as if he has something important to add. I'll feel sad for the families for anyone that may have been killed in this incident but i've learned over the years that I wont know what really happened for a couple of days and I still can't trust most everything the major media outlets reports even then.

Rather early to assume this is either a terrorist and/or Muslim related event isn't it?   I mean it may be both but could be neither...I guess we'll find out as details start to come out.

#2 flopped today. 10 inch beard and 1 inch spurs. He didn't gobble until I was 50 or so yards from him. I was walking slowly through the woods calling on and off. He was on top of me before I knew it. Sat down by a tree and didn't even have time to put my face mask on. I just lowered my hat to cover my face. Once he started gobbling he came over the hill and I shot him around 25 yards. [URL=http://s525.photobucket.com/user/bean962/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20140402_131541_zpse8acd0cc.jpg.html][/URL]

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If course Hussein and his minions will call it work place violence like last time.

  ^^^This. If I lived closer I would gladly come & get them. Like "vontar" said, most bee keepers will come & get them. Bee keeping is a great hobby & there's nothing better than fresh honey on a warm biscuit in the morning. :yum:

If I'm reasonably well dressed and out eating I've started politely asking managers at places that are currently posted if they would like to change their mind to win a customer and get added to the "posted!" app as a non-posted alternative. I've had one business owner get angry b/c someone else had apparently stickered his business without asking him and one manager that removed the gunbuster while I stood there.(and it has stayed down) I've found that if they see the app and realize how easy it is for me to find a gun friendly alternative on the handy map and dine elsewhere(across the parking lot in some cases) that all of a sudden they don't so much like being on the list of restaurants I won't patronize. I've also talked to several that won't budge but I'm always very respectful of their opinions and thank them for taking the time to speak to a potential customer.

I love their motto: "Eat in Peace."    Because if they don't post, we'll come in like Yosemite Sam and blast the place up, just as has happened, what, zero times now?

With 9mm it's really not so much crimping. You have to slightly bell the mouth of the case to set the bullet in. Then your seating die needs to be set so thet it seats the bullet and remove that slight bell. The 9mm round is a slightly tapered round and not a straight wall round like a .38.

Not bad for $38.50. Price on the Gold Bullets was $11.27 That's .05 per round. I was never a fan of the old GB's and I'm hoping they really are "New and improved. My local WM has removed the 3 box limit on everything but .22. The girl behind the counter tells me the hoarders and re-sellers are becoming less.

  Remember this was a guy who was member of Bloomberg's MAIG when mayor of Knoxville, then resigned from that and took out lifetime NRA membership in time to run for Governor.   Takes a while to decide which side of the bread has the most butter.   - OS

Congrats, Shaun! I got called out of town for work, so I've missed a week of the action. I hope to get out Saturday!

I had a swarm come here a couple of years ago. Found a local beekeeper who was about a mile away who came and got them for free and then gave me a quart of honey! Here are a few pics of him getting the bees without a protective suit and he never got stung. I even ventured pretty close to get the pictures without getting stung!

  What about just waterboarding the skunk?

  My guess is he will let it pass without his signature so he can claim he was both for it and against it.

Someone should find him and drown him in a barrel. The TWRA rep, not your son.

That's pretty much outlawing self-defense on military bases.

The officials are already saying "not terrorism" even though 4 are dead...that's jumping the gun in my book!!

  For those of us that watch the show, missing a week is not an option.  :up:

Here are some beekeeping clubs in your area. A hobbyist beekeeper will gladly come take your bees for free. Found the info here: http://www.tnbeekeepers.org/bee-clubs/     Washington County Beekeepers Meets: 1st Tuesday of the month at 7:30 p.m. Location: Boones Creek Christian Church - Fellowship Hall Christian Church Road Gray, TN Contact: Wendy L. Brown 423-502-8475 postie@hotmail.com     club@wcbeekeepersassociation.com http://www.wcbeekeepersassociation.com         Tri-Cities Beekeepers Meets: 2nd Thursday of each month, 7pm Location: Civic Auditorium 1550 Fort Henry Drive Kingsport, TN Contact: Isaiah Hess 423-247-6626   David Hess   dthess@embarqmail.com

I'm dumb enough to wonder why a military base isn't one of those places where a shooter gets shot back at. :ugh: You don't hear about shootings at police precincts now do ya'?

Possibly, but they've been searching for a Muslim soldier that has planned "a ft hood style jihad attract" for days....I'll take my chances.

The Adventures of Daryl Dixon, Zombie Hunter.   Yeah...I'd watch that.

  Thats an obvious answer.    All I do is shoot. Works over rated

  At the time I posted that, I didn't realize you didn't have to use the tubes that come with the gadget.   Now that I've done more research, I see that you can take the yellow or green pickup tips off of the Dillon tubes and it will load directly into them. That's pretty cool!!

Lebanon Agricultural Center, Friday 4/4, from 5:30 to 9:30 I went to my first Friends of the NRA banquet last year and it was awesome, much better than I expected. Lots of good food, drink (most include beer or wine), fun games, free gun raffle, silent auction for small accessories, and live auction for guns and other cool collectible things. It was so much fun that I went to 5 more of them in other counties. Tickets are normally $40 at the door but you can get them for $30 online if you buy before Friday. The Lebanon event is typically very popular and often sells out so get your tickets now. This includes your dinner, drinks, desserts, and a free ticket for the big gun prize which is raffled off at the end. Everything else is optional but I typically play some games and bid on small auction items so I usually come away with some cool gear too. I once got a great price on a gun at auction too, it just depends on how many people are after each gun, and there are a LOT of guns won at the event so you sometimes get lucky. Come out and support the local pro-gun groups and youth programs that receive all of the proceeds from the event. https://www.friendsofnra.org/EventDetails.aspx?eid=49087&sid=44

  Yea I now need them also....., but there is something "That Ain't Right" about having a red-dot on a Pump Shotgun!  :rofl:     173rdABN and I spent yesterday at the range verifying our zeros.  My old "Pre-Wilson Combat Sellout Scattergun Technologies" 870 will still put a slug Center-of-Chest at 100 yards.  :pleased:     But when did the sight radius change on my FAL?  That front post is all fuzzy and gray now!  :ugh:   However, 173rdABN can confirm that my FAL still has very strong brass extraction and ejection!!!!!  :up:

  You do realize there are shows, similar to the 'First 48', aside from drama's such as CSI that show real world forensic tech?

Wow. Someone had their Cheerios peed in this morning.

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Fixed blade knives as well as pocket. I agree. Booze will be gold in the long run. I am working on putting a materials list to make a makeshift still to put away for TEOTWAWKI. JTM We the People of the United States, in order to form a more Perfect Union......

Gold is nearly useless for post-SHTF purposes. Its too valuable. Last i checked gold was around $1600 an ounce, what are you gonna buy with that? Even the 1/10th oz. gold eagles are worth $160 still a large denomination. Silver is much better in this aspect. Gold is excellent for pre-SHTF wealth preservation. I personally believe for precious metals, that Silver Eagles and pre-65 90% silver quarters and dimes are best for purchasing things post-SHTF. While precious metals are good to invest in, i believe even more valuable at least immediately after an event would be trade goods. Alcohol, tobacco, chocolate, toilet paper, canned food, bottles water, flashlights, batteries, common types of ammo, pocket knives, common durable clothes, etc. will be in high demand. I believe it would be easier to trade something immediately useful than some silver. And no one really knows how it would really play as we as a country havent experienced anything like this yet

You have to pull the trigger harder. It will also make the bullet go faster. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

The only precious metals I have enough of to stack are lead ingots. 

what a dumb ass. 

The walking dead has turned into the crawling...make that dragging dead. Not sure I can handle another season. They need a 2 hr opener or finale to accomplish something and move the show along.

I'm not aware of any reloading dies that produce the fluted heavy crimp seen on some magnum and +p loads, and at or near the base of the bullet.   Two types of crimp for the reloader, both applied to the case mouth. Pistol rounds use a taper crimp to close the case mouth after the bullet is seated. As Raoul said, this removes the belling formed by the expander die, adding only a slight inward taper to the case.  If you can see it, you probably crimped too much. Revolver rounds use either a taper crimp, or a heavier roll crimp which rolls the case mouth into the cannelure on the bullet.

[quote name="sjc1340" post="1131660" timestamp="1396114231"]The clown has a pen and a phone, he's already urinated on the Constitution[/quote] Which clown: Reagan, bush sr, Clinton, or bho. They all signed or spoke in favor of gun control. And leaked on the constitution in their own special ways.

Reason number 2000 i'll will not visit that city, wont spend one dime there to support their economy. Pretty much the same reason I wouldn't have visited Paris during the Nazi occupation. If we ever elect a halfway decent real leader and the voters of DC kick out all the traitors to America, restore freedom like the founding fathers intended, then maybe i'll go. But as for right now, no way in hell will I step over the DC boundry.

[quote name="semiautots" post="1131170" timestamp="1396029692"]We would not want any backwoods militias around here!! [/quote] Backwoods militias are what made this country and would be great to have in every community in every state. Unfortunately, since people in general are fascist creatures, current day militias often require members to prescribe to belief structures that idealize specific social standards rather than focus on the Constitution and the basic principles of liberty. Otherwise I would be very active in a community militia. I'm not gonna go out and train with willfully ignorant people who believe 9/11 was perpetrated by the government and darkies are responsible for all the woes of our society. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

It seems odd that the leader made a big show of having rules, especially the "Claimed" rule, despite what we saw previously.  When Rick was hiding under the bed, the second guy comes in, bullies the first into getting off the bed, and then puts the sleeper hold on him in order to get the bed.  If they really followed the rules, then the first guy would have just said, "Claimed," and the second guy should have moved on.  It could indicate poor writing.  On the other hand, the fact that the social order was not maintained in this instance suggests that when the boss is not around, then the minions don't give a crap about rules and resort to typical roughneck behavior.   I wonder if the bow guy who got the beat down was the same one who choked the guy who saw Rick?  Could explain why the beatin' turned into a killin'.  Also, someone should have grabbed the arrow from that dude's head; I thought Daryl was going to get it.

For what it's worth, I bought Glocks from dealers that were LE trade ins. They came as pistols with one mag in a padded envelope. There were tons of police trades that didn't have boxes with them. People move. People put stuff in the attic.   Trade based on the character of the man you're dealing with, not his lack of factory boxes.

[quote name="orientalexpress" post="1126077" timestamp="1395106758"]So your new car doesn't need a break period? Even Ferrari has a 1000km break in period.[/quote] Did you really just essentially compare a Remington pistol to a Ferrari? lol I've heard it all

I know it's early but me thinks this could be one of the biggest failures to come out in recent years. I'm going to be the first to predict the recall. 

I wouldn't buy it at the price either. I don't shoot rimfire anymore anyway. When they sell it at todays prices, they can kiss my..............

Because, despite their lack of aesthetic appeal, they work. They work when all other fail. All the older, classier, sexier designs need a trained skilled hand to get them to run like a Glock, and even then they will fail before the fugly plastic turd. A Glock is a framing hammer. We don't brag about or sit and admire a good framing hammer. We just use them and they don't fail. When I go to the range to have fun, I'll bring a Blackhawk. It's gorgeous and I love to look at her. When I get outta bed in the morning and tighten the belt around my britches, there's a Glock 19 on the right side. Later that day when I've been wallerin' on the ground and climbin around cars, I never give the Tupperware a thought. This is the definition of "Glock Perfection". It's the perfected TOOL and it works like no other.