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I stayed out of the thread because I didn't want to fan the fire. It is pretty much done now because he is gone.   He is probably one of those who is aching for a revolution or civil war and if he is it is obvious he has never been to an area of conflict. He has probably never wondered if today is his last or had a close friend give his final breath for our country. Had he been he would be using every single tool available to prevent the very thing he longs for. There is nothing romantic or heroic about dragging our country into a war amongst itself. There are some, like him, that long for a time when they can kill a fellow American under the guise of patriotism but there is nothing less patriotic than killing your fellow countrymen when all other avenues of change have not been exhausted.   The thing is people like him are lazy, like fat slob sitting on the couch watching Honey Boo Boo reruns all day while eating potato chips lazy. They rarely want to even send an email or make a phone call even though it is a whole lot easier than fighting and definitely a lot safer.    Now don't get me wrong, I have ZERO problems with fighting for our country. But unless every other option has been exhausted I will not pick up arms and kill my fellow Americans.

TnIIIer, if you recognize my avatar, you know where I stand on this issue. That being said, please take my advice and dial it back a smidge. There are a lot of really squared away folks. Folks that I would argue are way more solid than you and I. Folks that you would find it valuable to know and make friends with if you could only back it down a bit. Right now you are making no friends and doing yourself no favors. It doesn't have to be that way. Be nice. Join in the conversations. Show folks that you are a solid cat and then take the real conversations to meatspace. Don't get yourself banned from what can be a very valuable resource for networking and learning from folks who can teach you from experience and not theory. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

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That guy is a loser like his father and his father's father. I started my military career on hill 881 and ended it after serving proudly in Desert Storm. People like me don't need some FB smart ass questioning our patriotism. I've always done what needed to be done under less than perfect circumstances. I'm sure as long as I'm able I'll do the same if required. There's no joy in killing no matter what the circumstances. People that have only done it playing video games have no fucking idea.

I think a lot of this is being blown out of proportion. The OP is painting the III% to be a club or group, when it isn't. It's not about a page on facebook, and it's certainly not a club based on an Internet page as the OP is suggesting (loosely). I am a part of the 3%. I don't need to follow them on Facebook or read a blog to know I am one of those 3% of Americans that will fight if and when need be. I'd wager there are numerous true members of the 3% on TGO, that could care less about advertising it or following a page on Facebook

this thread is full of win.    I go to work then come home to total entertainment.   I am not Kreskin but I think someone is done.

"I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue!" Barry Goldwater, 1964   "A free people [claim] their rights, as derived from the laws of nature, and not as the gift of their chief magistrate." Thomas Jefferson   Let's face it, anyone telling you that you can't have any kind of weapon you want is not interested in what's best for YOU!

  This. We can argue 'til the cows come home about open this, rifle that, safe handling, he's a douche, no he's exercising his rights, whatever. In the end, politicians make the laws and they do what the voters and businesses in their districts tell them to do. Stuff like what these guys are doing serves no meaningful purpose to advance our cause in the law books. It can do one thing and one thing only, stir the pot enough to make those voters and businesses complain to their representatives to pass laws restricting it.   Doing something legal but unwanted around people who can influence the law is a good way to get that behavior made illegal.

The Supreme Court has only ruled ONCE about what is covered by the 2nd amendment as 'arms'.  That was as part of US v Miller in 1939.  The ruling of the court was that 'arms' included ALL weapons currently useful for military service.  Nobody bothered to show the Supreme Court how a short-barreled shotgun was used by military forces, so it was ruled to be subject to a $200 transfer tax.  Lower courts had three times ruled the National Firearms Act unconstitutional, but the Justice Department kept sending it back up to SCOTUS until the final time when the defense didn't show up.   Since then, especially after the travesty of the Commerce Clause in Wickard v Filburn, the Supreme Court has consistently ruled that the Feds can regulate firearms pretty much however they want.   Lately, they have tried very hard to avoid having to rule on what type of 'arms' are covered by the 2nd.   It is still legal for private citizens in this country to own almost any variety of weapon you can imagine.  Theoretically, you could own a nuclear bomb, IF you could find someone to legally transfer the plutonium and you had a safe facility to assemble it.   There is a reason why the government is so hot to totally trash any modern aircraft, armored vehicles, and other stuff that is taken out of service.  They do not want you to have it.  If they destroy it, you have to make it yourself.  And it will be very difficult to make a 120mm tank gun, much less the rest of an M1A2 Abrams!  The same is true of ammunition for such weapons.  Current suppliers sign contracts NOT to sell it to civilians, and you can't import the stuff, either.  Before 1968, you could buy anti-tank cannons and ammunition via mail-order.  Amazing how there weren't any problems caused by that.  The only folks I can think of in the US that have been assaulted by tanks and cannon are American citizens being assaulted by the government!

  If you think you have to ask who will stand and who will not then you truely have no clue... As to FB it is the work of the devil where idle minds run off at the mouth...

[quote name="TNIIIer" post="1153892" timestamp="1401544750"]I don't see where you ppl get that we're trying to guilt anyone into joining the III%. [/quote] Because of this post: As to this... You said this: I don't need to beat my chest to prove I'm a patriot and sure don't need to be a member of anything to prove I'm willing to pick up a rifle and fight if a time came for that. Lotta folks here who have picked up a rifle to fight the enemy, fired their weapon in anger and brought back scars and metal in their bodies. Forgive us for not showing your Facebook page the respect it deserves. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

They Are The Guys Who Chuck Norris Calls When He Gets In A Jam.

You are likely belling and or crimping the case mouths too much. I've been loading for about 30 years, and I've only seen a handful of ancient handgun brass with neck splits. I do not, nor will I own a Glock.   Also, I don't see how a split neck could harm a firearm.

Glad to see there is something happening, however, with all of the violations of law and the lack of ethics of those in charge I will be surprised if anything other than lip service happens. Boil the frog slow…….

Y'all are welcome to argue about caliber choice all you like, but keep in mind there are various hunting styles when it comes to hog hunting. If the hunter is hunting over bait, which is legal in many states where hog populations are high, then it take far less gun to result in a clean kill. If the hunter is on the ground, spot and stalk type hunting, then carry a big bore thumper. I have hunted both ways. Hunting over a corn pile is more akin to grocery shopping for me. Not that I am opposed to it, but it isn't that difficult of an undertaking. You can sit in a blind, 40 yards off the pile, steady rest and ensure clean kills with smaller caliber guns. Walking through palmettos and kicking up a big angry sow is a different story. If you haven't hunted in palmettos in a pine forest, then you may not fully understand the limited sight distance involved. I've had hogs pop up at less than 10 yards on many occasions. I want a big bore pistol for those hunts. 

Exactly why I WILL NOT be carrying an auto knife in my front pocket, lol

[quote name="TNIIIer" post="1154126" timestamp="1401589994"]Oh no, you gonna ban me for calling your girlfriend out??[/quote] I don't ban anyone, I'm not the authorities. But I will say this....you're a douche

Yes we are.

[quote name="tnguy" post="1154079" timestamp="1401583337"]Maybe he just figures the constitution is the law of the land.[/quote] Hahaha! He must be new around here. :lol: Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

  Amen, Brother.  Served in Desert Storm......earned a Bronze Star........Kinda thought I'd performed my duty and no one would question it.

[quote name="Lumber_Jack" post="1154049" timestamp="1401579551"]You ....and me[/quote] Oh darn. And here I thought all my years in combat meant I wasn't a coward scared of fighting. If only I had the balls to be a three percenter. Those guys must be wrapped in flag badasses. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Hey, they make a big enough stink out there, Texas might simply ban public carry of long guns. I mean they already ban open carry of handguns, permit or not. They have other restrictive laws similar to TN's also. Neither T is nearly the bastion of gun freedom that many folks assume.   - OS

  These ignorant douchebags are doing the anti's job for them.  They are getting places posted or causing a national scene which in turn brings heat on businesses to take a stand.  Anti's just have to sit back and watch supposedly pro-2A folks dig a deeper hole  for everyone who wants to enjoy what little rights we actually have.   Why is that so hard to understand?

Not a good way to influence people on this site, my friend.  Many of us have been to a real shootin' war, and don't care for another, unless it's forced upon us. So don't come in here throwing around that 3% BS and thumping your chest and looking down on us "fairweather ppl".  As long as we still have free elections to elected our own "dumbass" politicians, we still got a free country.  We aren't close to the point of a rebellion yet.

Face book aint my thing, never has or will be.

  A little advice from your Uncle Mike... This is a pretty patriotic bunch. Comments like this will get you a good demonstration of that. 

  I carry a handgun, it is safely holstered.  If I carry an AK what do I do with it while I eat?      Pro gun people are talking smack about them because they are giving us a black eye. My parents taught me when I was very young that just because I can do something it doesn't make it the right thing to do.

I find it hard to understand how people just can't keep their mouths closed about breaking the law; even if it is a silly one... Concealed to me means that no one knows before, during or after the fact...

I guess if I have to go to facebook to read about it, it must not be for me.  Does this organization not have a real web page?

In case anyone here isn't aware of them, they are just now beginning to ripen, and in my opinion, they are one of the best fruits found in nature. Here's what they look like: [URL=http://s612.photobucket.com/user/gregintenn/media/IMG_2520_zps2d2e9256.jpg.html][/URL] If you find these, try them. They make great pies, jelly, or are good to just eat by the handfuls.

Got another inexpensive Hawk 982 and decided to play with it ;). Painted it with Dupli-color "Cast Iron" hi-temp engine enamel. I've used HVT on a lot of AK's to good effect. Not used this stuff before but I did bake it as well, so we'll see how it holds up. Changed the sights screws to stainless, Hogue 12" LOP stock, shell holder, and stainless mag follower. May add a Choate mag tube extension, but all in all I'm still under $300 dollars for a good shotgun.

This is live fire group training,   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCjSzrANnhc   Not someone shooting a pop can down range while someone walks onto the field seemingly not paying attention.   Whether or not the shooter saw the man on the field or not, range should go cold if it was unplanned.    However I suspect it was made and published to see what the reaction would be.

Sounds like the sear is not engaging the main leaf spring properly.

This won't end well

If I bought a new Bersa and it failed to perform out of the box I would be a lot happier than if it worked out on the box at the range and failed when I needed it to work. At least you knew it was not working and could send it in for repairs before you had to depend on it...............jmho

  And it should not have turned out any differently either... You can't come into ANY forum and start throwing insults when your put on the spot for questionable postings...

worked on them longer than that and have NEVER seen a tech that didnt need some help some time in his career.

Speaking of being on an ammo budget...I took my XD-S to the range one day along with several other guns. I loaded up my mags with reloads, but put them back in my range bag because I decided to shoot my P-01 first. When I switched to the little Springfield, I could't believe how tough it was to control and get back on target. I thought it was because I'd been shooting 9mms, which I load a little light anyway. Turns out I had grabbed the wrong mag and had just shot up a whole mag of Hornady 230gr +P rounds. Pretty expensive lesson.

Close. Not as bad as Mike's story, but the cat was pretty pissed at me. (She survived for another 10+years, despite her behavior best described as a cat-moron.) It started the instant we opened the cat carrier to her new home. She joyously tore across the house, right between a set of rails, and 12' to the wood stairstep below. Right on her head. Not even home 30 seconds and we thought she was dead,  

  Maybe it's because I'm really just a low end shooter, but I never really had any problems with DA/SA guns. Just a matter of a hammer cock to me. I know, perhaps if I were a LEO, or was dependant on my firearm for something other than what I mostly use them for...I might feel differently about it.   Maybe that's why I'm being more and more drawn to the 1911 lately. Seems I shoot them and some of my wheelie Smiths most often.

  I think you have issues.

On this site, the question is indeed superfluous. The answer is yes, and Facebook sucks. Next.

Maybe he just figures the constitution is the law of the land.

my real beef with them going into a restaurant with rifle is what were they going to do with them when they were seated?  Keep them strapped on their chests as they ate?  Lean them up somewhere?  I doubt Chili's has a rifle rack.   I am pretty sure if I was eating there when they came in I'd have asked them WTF?   And then told the manager that either they leave or I do,  I don't want to eat in a restaurant where these ass clowns are being unsafe.   Seriously what was their plan for the rifles while they ate?

Bersaguy they will call you names no matter what you say or do. You assume they are fighting fair. Bush is a great example. No matter how he tried to honor the office of president by not getting into the fight, he ostensibly let all those who supported his position take the hits for him. It's a noble thought but the reality of the fight is far different. They way you win these arguments is changing the false promise that they try to use. As long as we let them set the stage and fight by their rules we will struggle. You can be tactful about it but you have to change the premise and Joe was trying to do that. This is also how we get Rhino's. They let the dems set the premise and then they try to work within that framework. That's why most of them sound like democrats and there ones that reject it are labeled extremist.

[quote name="Lumber_Jack" post="1153792" timestamp="1401507479"]So explain what a 3%er does in a normal week to keep this country free that a normal constitution loving American doesn't.[/quote] Other than guilt you for not being a true patriot? Not sure... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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Someone call me when it's time to fight, until then I'll just hang back.

If I considered what my wife would shoot before I bought it, I would have an empty gun safe and a full savings account! Lol Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk - [URL=http://tapatalk.com/m?id=1]now Free[/URL]

A solution to a problem that shouldn't exist. Safes and lock boxes are the proper way to secure weapons, not gimmicks on the guns which will drive up the prices.