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GREAT!!! Another cop shoots a black man who was just standing in an elevator. Bring on the protesters.

You've done it now, I have an excuse to show off my little buddy. This is Ace. He's almost 4 months old now. Being a lab, he's rambunctious as all get out but he really surprises me every day how well he learns. He tears EVERYTHING up, as in I haven't found a toy he can't tear apart, even the rope ones for large dogs. Luckily, he doesn't chew on anything he's not supposed to, which surprised me. He's already got the commands sit, shake, lay down, and fetch down. I don't know if that's a lot for a dog his age or not, but like I said he really surprises me how well and how quick he learns. He stays outside and loves it, we put in one of the underground fences that stretches our entire property. However, this week he's staying in the garage out of the weather at night. Most recent picture: Some from the past few months:

My remaining two... Gulf Shores. All the kids on the beach loved them and they loved hunting down the beach crabs. DADDY, WHERE THE HELL IS OUR DINNER? Here's Maggie...I had to put her down last month. It was a complete surprise...out of the blue she started acting weird and having seizures. Vet found out it was a brain tumor and said nothing could be done. Two of the three were rescues who won the lottery (we're "those" dog owners). The one in the blue collar we've had since she was a puppy. Lexi the Queen just thinks this is how life is. The other two have had a bit of "reality." They are / were all scary smart. If they had thumbs, I'd be screwed.

Hi Ron! I just wanted to share something with you. As an owner of 6 rescued dogs, (4 of which are bully breeds) I am a bit saddened by your opinions of what I know to be loyal and loving souls. If you go visit petfinder.com there's a whole special page devoted to myths about pitbulls! The first one they address is that pesky one about their jaws locking. It simply isn't true! If you were to compare the skull of a pitbull to that of, hmm a collie?, you would see no special bones, ligaments or anything else that would give them such an ability. What these dogs do have is determination. Which personally I think is a great quality! They never give up! Gibbs, my Am Staff (they're small and cute) he never gives up on kissing everyone. He loves to lick, it drives me nuts! Floyd and Earl are 2 of my youngest pups, they're 1/2 Rottweiler, 1/4 English Bulldog and 1/4 Pitbull (they're super cute!). They're determined to always pester me for treats and food to throw the ball! So annoying. But they still can't lock their jaws. I don't want to address everything you said, because we have such different views of these dogs. I bet we'll probably never agree. But, if you'd like, I'd love to invite you over to meet my "vicious" dogs. I'd love to show you what funny, goofy souls they are. I bet they might just surprise you. I understand that might not sound fun to you. An that's OK! But just know, it's an option if you'd like. When I met my husband I was terrified of guns. Seriously. 1,000% scared. The first two things he taught me were "all guns are always loaded" and "guns don't kill people, people kill people". Now, I love them. I love to shoot, I love to take friends and educate them and I really love to shop for them! You should see my new Mossberg! It's incredible! But my husband taught me that being a responsible gun owner and using them properly and helping to educate people about them is ok. I returned the favor but educating him on Pit Bulls. He adopted his first one after our Rottweiler, Buddy, passed away. This is a very loyal, very proud breed. Sadly the media and people who LOVE to believe the Internet and Media about what kind of dog they are have hurt the breed. So have people like Michael Vick. Dogs (all breeds) are a reflection of their owner. Dogs are a lot like 2 year old humans. Regardless of the breed, they are what we as humans make them. Lastly, I saw where you put that you've seen a Pit Bull fight. That makes me sad Ron, I hope you did the right thing and notified the authorities. Dog fighting is commonly used to fund illegal activities like drugs. Why would humans be that cruel? Make an innocent soul fight, just to fund illegal activities. And how can anyone with a good conscious view a dog fight? If you'd like to meet Floyd, Earl and Gibbs just let us know. Matt's a chef and he can make dinner. I think after a few minutes with them you'd probably change your mind and you probably wouldn't cut and paste incorrect information about a great breed that when owned by good people, are really loving companions! Have a great night Ron!

  If those people want to, Yes, absolutely.      Should people with kids at home own guns?  Should people with kids at home own pools?   Answer, If those people want to, Yes, absolutely.     The government shouldn't be in either discussion.  Because there is a risk of something happening in either scenario, it shouldn't make one bit of difference.  People should be free to make decisions for themselves.  If bad things happen and circumstances show there was negligence, then take appropriate action.  If you don't like Pits, don't get one.  I am not a Pit owner and will probably never have a Pit, but I am a dog lover and there are certainly the right types of owners for all dogs.  

I've met many a TGO member at Hardee's in Westmoreland. :D   What can I say, I'm a classy guy. :confused:

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I'm all for you being able to have alligators in your yard; just as long as they don't get out and find their way into my yard.

First let me say that the members of this website, for the most part, are probably some of the more responsible members of society. That being said, I feel the pit owners on here are well aware of the capabilities of this breed. As I have stated before in the other thread the years of worthless trash abusing this breed is what has taken its toll on the pit. Steroids, and other drugs, phisical abuse, neglect, and of course dog fighting. I have also seen the story old the elderly woman's dog, and that again is more than likely neglect. Failure to socialize, excersise, and interact with a dog of any kind is also a form of abuse and neglect. I understand the stigma this breed has gained, and many of us are trying hard to change that, by adopting rescue dogs and trying to stop the abuse of this breed. When others start speaking negatively, and almost in a hateful manner, about the breed it does nothing to help the situation out. It also starts to sound very reminiscent of the anti gun society. If you do not wish to help some of these horribly abused animals in any way, that is fine, but please don't add fuel to the fire.

Here is my Kasey girl. I rescued her from a huge Yellow tomcat that evidently stole her from a litter of puppies from some where and was trying to kill her. I hear her yapping outside under my truck. I had seen this big yellow cat many times and was probably 15 lbs + in size. I ran back in house and got a rough rider loaded with shorts and a pan of water, laid down beside the truck and threw the water on them. The cat raised it's head and I shot it and this bleeding ugly long wet puppy came waddling out form under my truck. picked her up and brought her in the house. She was bleeding from her nose on outside and from her ears where the cat scratched them. Other wise unscathed. A nice warm bath cleaned her up and I realized that this pup had not been weened yet. Still had foggy blue film on eyes and puppy breath. I had to bottle feed her about a month while getting her started on soft dog foods. That was 15+ years ago. [URL=http://s218.photobucket.com/user/softbaitmaker/media/Kasey%20and%20Girl%20Dog/Fishpictures005_zpsf16a2e75.jpg.html][/URL] [URL=http://s218.photobucket.com/user/softbaitmaker/media/Kasey%20and%20Girl%20Dog/PictureorVideo007_zpsf3576786.jpg.html][/URL] [URL=http://s218.photobucket.com/user/softbaitmaker/media/Kasey%20and%20Girl%20Dog/KaseyandGirlDog011_zps33ef6d7c.jpg.html][/URL] She thinks she owns the Jeep and it is not allowed to go anywhere without her so he in the last picture she has it blocked until I tell her to get in the back seat........... :rofl:

The picture isn't the greatest but it's my most recent, Juice the husky mix at 6 months and Mandy the Catahoula Cur at 5 months in front of their dog house with fresh Christmas decorations. They share that house, its built on a 4'x4' frame. Juice just being cool he loves to hang out in the living room with us. Mandy in her bed. She is very lazy, she loves her bed.

I would as soon have alligators as pit bulls in my yard, but that's just me.

Pitbulls are dangerous dogs, not because of their behaviors, but because IF that switch flips in their head, the damage they can do over a weiner dog is astronomical. People seem to forget these things are animals and think for themselves sometimes with the cognitive function of a 2 year old kid. The risk is ALWAYS there.

Been following this thread and biting my tongue about some of the very ignorant comments about pit bulls, but at this point I guess I'll just throw this out there: most of you are acting like a bunch of liberal sissies that take what the media throws out there and it's suddenly the truth. Hypocrites. Dogs are animals. Some are more aggressive than others. Training goes a long way in their tendencies but it can't eliminate all bad behavior. There are probably as many responsible pit bull owners in this country as there are responsible gun owners. Accidents still happen to those responsible owners (both sets of them). You want to legislate my pit bull away from me? You can have her when you're heading over to pick up my firearms too. None of my family is leaving with any badge because you folks don't feel like I'm a responsible owner. You still want to say that we need breed legislation? I say we need procreation legislation, suddenly I don't think that some of your kids are safe to be in society because I heard on the news that Little Johnny mooned a shop owner on Main St. Where's the slippery slope end folks? I'd challenge all of you who don't like pit bulls for whatever reason to go volunteer at a shelter and get to know a few. You might just be surprised at how good the majority of them are. As far as the comment about them being gassed away, may God have mercy on your heart, Sir. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

This is Bandit, she is about 16 months old? Mostly Lab. Sharp as a tack, and fully devoted to the family. Well trained, mostly well behaved and she loves to cuddle. She also loves to play. We got her from here on the board when she was just over a month old. I hope the rest of her litter mates did well, but Bandit knows she won the lottery. I have a cat too, Moeko, but she won't sit peacefully and pose for a picture in exchange for a tortilla chip. She has been with us for ten years now. She is a good cat.

Here are my two dachshunds Zeke and Marley and my lab pitbull mix kate. Posing. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

This is my 3 year old border collie Sophie. She's so smart it's scary and a very loving dog. She's also a real ham.... :lol: [url=https://flic.kr/p/pKoUXm][/url]

This is a response to my post in Our Fur friends when I was talking about dog snacks made in China. Petco and and Petsmart are both pulling all their dog treats from their shelves that are made in China. I have been posting to different sites for a couple years about pet snacks from China were killing dogs here and on the CBS World News tonight they announced that a chemical China has been putting in dog treats have killed over 1000 dogs.   Back about 6 years ago a friend of mine gave Kasey a couple jerky treats while we were visiting them. He said he gave them to his dogs all the time. I picked up the bag of Waggin Trails and it said made in USA so I didn't think anything about it. One day he called me up and told me his Lab had died. It suffered Kidney failure and he had to put him down. Next time I was in Sams, where he bought his dog treats I picked up a bag of Waggin Trail Jerky treats and it said made in China on the bag. I called my friend and ask hm to see where the treats he had were made and he went ballistic when he read it was now being made in China.     I called the 800 number on their bag and requested to know why they left America and went to China to have their products made and she said, Our Company was having difficulty finding enough chicken  in America to make their treats. I asked her if their company tried calling Tyson and she hung up on me.    I ask my Vet if there was any snack products for pets that she trusted and her reply was not any more. She said companies like Nestles say they are made in America but really they are made in China and packaged in America. Reason being China would not package anything without their bar codes and Name on the packaging. In turn American companies began buying their products un-packaged and doing their own. She said that the only dog foods she felt she could trust was Pedigree which is made here in Franklin, Tennessee. You can all find some interesting reading below!    .Now yall made know why I could for Kasey and give her human jerky treats................jmho   http://www.dogfoodadvisor.com/red-flag-ingredients/propylene-glycol-dog-food-aid-or-automotive-anti-freeze/     http://www.dogfoodadvisor.com/dog-food-industry-exposed/dog-food-chin/     http://rt.com/usa/220135-chinese-dog-food-deaths/   http://www.dogfoodadvisor.com/dog-food-recall/chicken-jerky-treats-suspects/   http://www.foxnews.com/health/2014/05/19/toxic-jerky-treats-linked-to-more-than-1000-dog-deaths/

My best friend, Mario. Meanest back of any small dog I know, but a fantastic lap buddy and great co pilot.

Here are my three girls. Tank, the white Pomeranian, is about 9 and sleeps with me every night. Spoiled rotten. The other two are sisters. And it should come as no surprise that their names are Smith and Wesson. Smith is the sable and Wesson is the black. Otherwise known as my three bitches:)

Snapped this shot of Juice today, he was afraid of the wheel barrow the other day when I got it out so today I took the opportunity to train him a little I put him in and told him to sit and stay and he didn't move till I told him to come. He is the best trained dog I've ever had he learns really fast and listens fairly well. I try to work with him daily but don't always get to.

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They are both big posers haha. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

In light of the horrible incident involving a canine and their owner I say we post photos of our companions, and if you want give a little back ground to yours, to raise some spirits. My little gal is named Shade and I "inherited" her when my sisters girlfriend abandoned her in their breakup. She was forced on me but then, my sis didn't exactly have to twist my arm too hard. She is a total sweetheart and LOVES people but has an insatiable appetite of the avian variety, particularly chickens. Though she did come back one day with a buzzard... I caught her asleep here. Full on passed out on her back. Sent from the future using a flux capacitor.

I have several threads about my recent interest in older firearms and working my way back. I have finally made it back to my first C&R purchase and would like to share some photos of it with everyone. I am no expert but am interested in any experience you have with it. I think I have a 1956 S&W pre39 in good shape to be about 57 years old. Thinking about getting it lettered so I have the facts on it. My understanding is it is the first American made DA/SA pistol to make it into regular production. It also seems the serial numbers started at 1000 and went to about 2500 on the pre39 models. I have 15xx. Again any knowledge you can share about them and their history would be great. Also I wouldn't mind getting it closer to original, so if anyone has a box, paperwork, mag, etc that is the same age I would be interested in it. Now for some eye candy. Thanks

I'm a Colorado kid, thus a Denver Broncos fan. She's named after Champ Bailey, the best corner to ever play the game. There will be more Bronco names as more puppies come into the family: Elway, (Tom) Jackson, (Steve) Atwater, etc. If Peyton can pull out a Super Bowl victory while wearing a Broncos uniform he'll get the honor of having a dog of mine being named after him too. :) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

My babies. And before yall ask. Yes they eat alot. No they dont have a saddle and yes they leave very large landmines in the back yard. Lol

Ellie May and Daisy on the footstool Daisy

  This is probably the finest first post I've ever seen.

So vets have been hearing about chicken jerky causing kidney disease for some time now--first in Australia, and then in America.  Up until recently, most of the chicken jerky was made in China; one reason that was suggested is that China has a surplus of white meat because they prefer dark meat.  Regardless, vets like me have been telling their clients to not feed chicken jerky for years, but it was only recently in the last year that the FDA has even issued a warning to consumers.   Part of the problem is that no one has determined precisely what the problem is.  Different labs have found different substances, but they have not proven that those substances are the cause (one was an antibiotic prohibited in chickens, but it shouldn't have cause kidney disease in dogs).  Since the FDA has made their announcement about jerky-related illness (http://www.fda.gov/AnimalVeterinary/SafetyHealth/ProductSafetyInformation/ucm295445.htm), I have noticed that many of the brands now say "Made in the USA."  However, I still warn owners to not feed chicken and duck jerky since we don't know if it is inherently safer being made in America.  For all we know, it could be something that occurs as part of the jerkification process, in which case it may not matter where it is made.   I have seen several cases of dogs with unexplained liver and kidney enzyme elevations that resolved when jerky was discontinued.  When you think about it, chicken jerky seems unnatural, and it is a relatively recent invention.   So my advice is to not feed any poultry jerky at all, regardless of who makes it or where it is made.

Ok, i jumped the gun, actually Dave did the knife i posted was promised to go to the guy who does the splash design, so i was offered my choice of 29 different models and i chose this one I actually like this one much better! I also bought my wife a Customized Runt4 in Pink with her name laser engraved on it, it will be her first auto!

Pending funds for me as I'd have to hoof it from Cookevegas. Someone had better be there to hang with me for a sec or else I'm headed to the stri..................  Meeting re-location?

Longer one in The Hive, too How can you possibly say that? - OS

I'll bet that if one did a bit of investigating, the owners of dogs involved in most attacks aren't what we'd refer to as model citizens.

  Well I, for one, love curling up in front of my basically fake gas log fireplace and reading a cold, electronic piece of hardware...     Just poking fun at the old days.     I took a long time to move to a Kindle app on my iPad and I still have some serious reservations. I hate not being able to easily lend a book to a friend (I'm sure the book publishers and authors don't mind that at all). I like having the books physically in my house. I'm concerned at the long term viability of libraries but maybe virtual libraries are a good thing. However, it is really nice being able to carry an almost unlimited amount of books with me.   Where I've settled is if it is a reference book or something I think might be useful if the power goes out I buy the print copy. If it is just fluff or entertainment reading I buy the electronic version.   What I really wish is that publishing houses would give you the option of paying a couple bucks more and getting both versions   Mark

I would rather have alligators because you don't have to wonder if they are dangerous. You know they are and they don't have that on/off switch. Theirs is on all the time.........................jmho

  I'm not sure it's just the size of the dog that is the issue. I am not an advocate of breed bans and I have seen and interacted with a lot of pits who seem very sweet.  I used to be part of the "it's not the dog it's the owner" crowd, but I'm not so sure anymore. I have seen and heard too many first hand accounts of the switch flipping with no prior warning to trust a pit around my children.   The fact is that Doberman's, Rottweilers, German Shepherds, and many other breeds are capable of inflicting severe trauma.  With the exception of Wolf Hybrids, pits just seem more likely to flip their switch without warning than any other breed.  We have a Boxer, in fact I brought him to my office today.  He's about 75lbs of muscle, a very strong dog, who is gentle enough to let my 4 year old drag him on a leash.  I forget how fierce his jaws and teeth are until I have to stick medicine down his throat.  He's not the slightest bit protective of me, but my Wife says he acts more protective of her and the kids when I'm not around.  Other than his significant bark when someone comes to our door, I generally don't see that side of him.  Last summer I had someone go by my house to provide an estimate for some work.  This guy has done a lot of work for me and has been around my dog a fair amount.  I was pretty surprised when he told me he wouldn't go in the back yard because my dog "wasn't happy about him being there without me."   He must have been at the wrong house, my dog is a baby, he's afraid to go into the laundry room when the dryer is on.  I don't his protective side as much as my Wife does.   She set of the alarm by accident recently and she said he was on "high alert" enough that the Deputy refused to come in the house until she put him in the back yard.  Same thing when she runs him, he always has to be between her and other men, or other dogs.  So much that it can be an annoyance.  My SIL and BIL have a sweet German Shepherd but it is too big a hassle for him to be around our dog.  At a dog park, without my kids around the two dogs would probably play appropriately, but last summer when my son wanted to play with the Shep and our Boxer thought the Shep was too rough my wife thought we were going to have two dogs locked in a bloody mess.  it took quite a bit of strength from me and the BIL to keep the dogs apart.  I could go on but the point is that my dog is very rarely aggressive and it always seems to be a predictable trigger.  I don't even think I'd say he's been aggressive, just a little protective.  Lots of strong or large dogs are this way in a predictable way.  I was involved in a legal case several years ago where the victims of a home invasion had a German Shepard that was 12 years old and "lazy" in the owners own words.  They were very surprised that the dog even woke up and even more surprised when the dog inflicted enough damage to require quite someone to need quite a few stitches on the lower legs.  Even though the owners were surprised this was a predictable trigger to flip that dog's switch.     I 100% agree that I've seen more Chihuahua's snap than pits.  As a matter of fact, I'm cautious about my parents' chihuahua and my kids.  Generally, I think small dogs are more likely to be dangerous to kids. particularly my kids who are used to a dog they can be a little rough with.  After getting rid of a Cocker Spaniel for biting my son, we are delighted to have a dog that is so gentle with the kids.  I have a friend with a Doberman of every similar temperament that is absolutely great with his kids.  I  My point is, that I would also be leery of owning a pit, but for a different reason.  It isn't the size or strength that bothers me, it's that they seem to be just a little more likely to flip that switch than other dogs of a similar size and build.      

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I never said they weren't a aggressive, they were intended to be an aggressive breed when original bred. It's unfortunate. What I'd call for is something that's all too uncommon these days. Use common sense when choosing a pet. A pit bull might not be for you or your family. I'm not advocating that there should be one in every home. Just like I don't think there should be a firearm in every home. Not everyone can be a responsible owner. Today's society has proven that we have a population who, in large part, have to be told what they can and can't have. Don't leave my 18 month old unattended on the floor in a room alone with my pet dog? Oh, the horror of having to figure that out without somebody telling me. Have a loaded firearm in an accessible location in a room full of kids that's unattended? Why should somebody have to tell you to lock your guns up from curious minds? Leave your 2 year old wandering around on the deck right next to the uncovered pool while you run inside to answer the ringing phone? Why do people really need to be reminded of these dangers? Society today is too dependent on other people telling/reminding/legislating safety into their lives. Use your brain folks, that's all I'm trying to get across. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Agreed. On all points. The availability of both good and bad material is amazing out there. Except when awaiting the next installment. lol I seriously have at least 50 books stashed in what I laughingly call an office. All just waiting patiently for me to get to them. But I keep getting more before I finish them off. So it seems like the pile just never gets any smaller. I did finally get a Paper White, but haven't even opened yet. I'm afraid of the pull from the hundreds, nay, thousands of books out there that I've been moderately attracted to that now I won't have taking up physical space. Maybe this wasn't such a great idea.

Once you go CZ you'll never go back.

  I feel the same way about pro sports.

  Dude.   Other states decide reciprocity for acceptance of the TN permit.  Most base their decisions on the requirements necessary to receive one. Most assert they must meet or achieve their own requirements.   You lessen the requirements for the permit, some states will rescind their recognition of the TN permit. Maybe quite a few depending on what the changes for receiving one entail.   And btw, there is a difference between reciprocity and recognition, but that's another subject.   - OS

  Well, it's also a win-win even if permitless concealed carry were enacted also, as long as they continue the HCP program as it is. Again, all the states that allow both permitless open and concealed carry also offer permits, except for VT.   - OS

  And this is where the Libertarian / Constitutionalist argument generally comes off the rails.  Your mentality is very isolationist and doesn't consider that you might just be in the minority.  Like I said, a win-win is for the State to acknowledge Constitutional open carry and sell permits for concealed carry.  Those who want a permit and reciprocity will pay for it.  Those who don't will just enjoy carrying freely inside the state.   As for how many people make use of reciprocity, I can tell you I do all the time.  And likely so do countless other Tennesseans with HCPs who travel back and forth to neighboring states on a weekly if-not daily basis.  Ask folks who live in border towns like Clarksville, Chattanooga, Memphis, Johnson City, etc. But what it sounds like you're saying is since you aren't one of those people, you couldn't care less provided it's free for you.   Like I said, very isolationist.

  Again, if we did it like Kentucky does, it would be a win-win.  Carry openly for free, a la the Constitution.  Carry concealed for a fee, a la TN permit.  The way Kentucky does it makes a lot of sense and scratches both itches, and it takes a lot out of me to say that something Kentucky does makes sense.  There's not much else the Commonwealth does that I particularly agree with.   The bonus would be that Tennessee would be issuing a CCP that could still be recognized for reciprocity by other states.  People who want to travel and still carry would pony up the money to get a CCP.  The people who are comfortable with open carry and don't want to be on a government register for having a permit, would just continue to do so but only inside the state borders.   Unfortunately it makes so much sense, our legislators will never go for it.

We need to get a middle Tennessee carpool together to hit the Knoxville show.

I resolve to not make any resolutions.