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No one should pay any attention to what the Southern Poverty Law Center says anyway... They are no more trackers and objective evaluators of the beliefs of "groups" than i am a brain surgeon... They are a bunch of far left, racist jackasses formed up by a piece of lawyer trash named Morris Dees whose goal is the intimidation and smearing of people and groups they dont like (...which is most everybody who doesnt see things their way...)...    They are a smear machine for the black supremacists, the gubmt,  and the news apparatchiks who use them as handy "expert sources" to smear who and what they don't like...They evidently believe that it's still slave days and whitey is still busy persecuting the black slave population...   I say the hell with the Southern Poverty Law Center, the pimps that work there, and the trash that use them as sources...   hatin leroy

As of 10:30 last night I am now a Grandfather ! I am posting in Women And Firearms because it's a girl and I will teach her to shoot and hunt along with my son. She is 6 lbs. 4 oz and 20 inches long. Woohoo !

I am pi***ed. This punk who was born in 1969 doesn't have a clue. By the time he was old enough to form a sentence the war was over. What's next the US flag is racist because it offends someone who isn't an American. I have lost a few friends in that war both in combat and after coming home from the side effects of battle. GOD bless all our troops where ever they are, Amen.

Just completed this build and had to show it off a bit. Parts list below Remington action trued by Long Rifles Inc Bartlein barrel M24 profile chambered in 6.5 creedmoor, threaded and installed by LRI Resurfaced recoil lug Bolt fluted and knob installed by LRI SWFA 5-20 scope Seekins precision rings Seekins 20 moa base Masterpiece arms chassis Timney 510 trigger AAC 300TM suppressor with rifles only MAD cover Harris bipod Ergo grip AI magazine Cerakote by LRI [url=http://s107.photobucket.com/user/samson7x/media/DSC_0585_zpsq5a2phsp.jpg.html][/URL] [url=http://s107.photobucket.com/user/samson7x/media/DSC_0582_zpsjalak4rs.jpg.html][/URL] [url=http://s107.photobucket.com/user/samson7x/media/DSC_0588_zpsjt3enxgd.jpg.html][/URL] [url=http://s107.photobucket.com/user/samson7x/media/DSC_0587_zpsjy3yvtvr.jpg.html][/URL]

    Yes, I have noticed your new sig line. You need to enlarge it though.

East TN is horrible.  Don't move here.  You will hate it.   Especially the greater Knoxville area east of Knox.  Worst place in the world.   Nashville will be more to your liking.

"Too many people complained" I like that statement right there.  :up:

We had supper last night at The Corner Pub in MJ. We ended up parking at the other end near Papa Johns and we walked past the entry door I had to do a double take their posting was gone. So after after we ate we again went past tbe entry door one of the drivers was walking back in so I asked him why the posting was gone? He said too many people complained so they took it down. Kind of wondering if it was a corporate directive or a store based decision.

Journalists = liberal idiots.....no really.

Yet, these four men were not caught looting or causing other damage....interesting. Seems like there were there peacefully armed and it stayed that way. If the people of the community don't like the laws, then change them, but they were doing nothing illegal. Of course, if the people of that community focused on the fact that their little "angels" are't, the community would be in better shape.

Well, except for the whole happening in Australia thing...

I finished my 1st SBR build with my brother in law recently. Geissele combat trigger Troy alpha rail Noveske 300 BLk 8 in barrel AAC 2.0 brake AAC SR7 Bravo company BCG Magpul K grip BAD ambi safety Strategic edge light Aimpoint T1 A bunch of other ridiculously expensive things that put me in a bind with my wife. But forgiveness, not permission, right? Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk

I suck because I just can't shoot very well.

I wouldn't, and it was just snark at the stupidity of trying to assign a race to a silhouette type image --- which obviously can't be done.  Its like saying the black outline targets have a race (and its been claimed there too) ... its so glaringly stupid that you have to wonder how the person ever learned to read and write enough to be able to even express their stupidity in words.   Sorry if I offended .. pretty much anyone who uses the word racist amuses me with their antics ... they ARE comedians, right?

That is one bear he really shouldn't poke with a stick.

I want the government to see citizens, especially armed citizens, willing to take a stand.  We need more of that I think.  I'm fine with a group coming together to take that stand, protest, or otherwise exercise their rights, but I would like there to be some purpose and sense of thought behind it to put their actions in perspective.  I'm not seeing that from the Oath Keepers in this case.

If they are paying taxes that is great but if they are not then expect to loose 1/2-1/3 of the $44 by the time you pay your taxes, insurance and all the other "mandatory" government withholdings.   If you want to talk about overseas contracts feel free to contact me. And honestly going overseas as a contractor might be a better option, especially coming out of active duty. Now is the time to get things going before you get out. It takes 3-6 months to get the first overseas contract from the time the company says they want you because of clearances and IDs. And no, your current clearances have ZERO bearing on any future contracts. Your current clearances are with the DoD and you will get vetted by the agency issuing the clearance. And it depends on the government agency what they are looking for. I have known of people who have been in jail get contracts while others were refused a contract because they were too far in debt. BTW, grab an SF 86 fill it out and use it as a master copy for when you fill them out for other clearances.   Doing overseas contracts allowed my wife to stay home with our child. And with the rotations you will get more time home than you could ever fathom. I worked, on average, 6 months out of the year and lived it up the other 6 when I was home.   And although it is dangerous it is no where near as dangerous as being an active duty soldier.   Not sure what skills you have but if you are trained in medical or communications you could command a premium.   I will say that the pay is not what it used to be and the competition is a little tougher now than 10 years ago but for the person with the right training you can easily get a job making a good wage. I know people who bought, and paid for, their house inside of three years. I also know people who blew every red cent they made. But how much you make is up to how much time you want to be gone. I know of one guy who would only do one trip a year that would cover Thanksgiving, Christmas and New Years because of the bonuses working during the holidays. If you time it right you can make between $30K and $45K in two months time during the holidays.   And if you, or anyone, is considering an overseas position only go with companies that are established and that you sign a contract with. NEVER go over on someone's word, you might end up dead or left in a hostile country trying to find your own way home. I have known a few people who went over with a fly by night company and were basically abandoned after the government paid the company. One guy turned over his passport to the country lead then the country lead flew back to the states with everyone's passports and fell off the face of the earth. My friend had to cross from Iraq into Jordan then go to a consulate to get back to the states and after all that he never received a single dime. One of the biggest indicators as to whether the company is reputable is to ask if you get paid during the training or if they are flying you to training. If they will then it is probably a decent company. If they want you to pay for flights, training and lodging then stay away from them as they likely either do not have a contract yet or they are just interested in making a bunch of money then splitting without paying you.   All the times I was paid on a 1099 the "employer" never took out taxes or anything and that was three separate companies over the course of several years. I was left hiring a CPA to go through all of my 1099's to figure out what was owed and what was exempt.   And finally, EVERYTHING is negotiable not just pay. I was on a contract when the company needed people to extend 2-3 weeks to cover a transition period. One guy said he didn't want any money but what he did want is some sort of rare 60's-70's drum set. I just laughed until a few weeks later when the company delivered on their promise to find him the drum set they promised.

I'm torn, agree Ferguson does not need anymore gasoline.  There is a time and place for the Oath Keepers and alike, this is not one of them in my opinion. 

And that is how  the iRobot Roomba came to fruition.

https://twitter.com/msn It was originally reported as "Heavily armed white civilians patrolled Ferguson, drawing criticism from police".   And this is how all this crap starts again. It gets reported one way so that a certain group will take to the streets but in the meantime they change the headlines and act like they did nothing wrong.   The media, for the most part, sickens me with how they report news here in the US. Anyone who has been overseas knows that real news is everywhere else and if you want to know what is going on here then find a news source from another country.

  "Papa Johns never intended to offend anyone when rolling out the no firearms policy. In Oct 2014, a 21 year old shift leader in Columbia, Tn was robbed at gun point of which ended fatally. At that point Papa John's decided to promote the safety of their team members in the attempt to deter theft and violence."   Maybe I'm just tired, but my brain just exploded at that attempt of logic.

  BLASPHEMY!     I love blackberries so this post makes me sad.    :cry:

I currently have a Gen 4 Glock 17. I like it but am just not that crazy about it. I also have a Shield 9 that I conceal carry and I love it, especially the ergos of it. I'm considering selling my Glock and going with a full size M&P 9. For those of you that have experience with both the Glock 17 and the S&W M&P 9mm, which do you prefer and why?

I'm sorry, but there are just some people on the left, (and, granted, on the right as well), that just need to live a short life and die a horrible death! To claim that the MIA flag is racist in any way is just so outrageous as to warrant a violent response! This guy writes this drivel because of the very people that he attacks who defends his right to write said drivel.   http://video.foxnews.com/v/4416803659001/controversial-column-declares-powmia-flag-racist/?intcmp=hpvid1#sp=show-clips

Because I shoot Jcoop's old gun.

Good match. The double swingers were awesome. Thanks everyone.

I do holsters as does Mark@Sea, GregTN (sorry if I butchered your handle), and some others.

  We can argue "reasonableness" until the cows come home, but that's something that is and will continue to be defined by a judge or jury. What you don't seem to be understanding is that no jury in this state is going to disagree with ANY officer who chooses to disarm an HCP holder for the duration of a stop regardless of any other factors, including a complete lack of any aggression on the part of the stopee. In a police officer's line of work, it is reasonable to think that any encounter can go south quickly and therefore removing a firearm is always going to be considered a reasonable action by a LEO. You may not agree with that scope of "reasonable" but it doesn't matter what you think. Or what I think. Or what any of us think unless we are on a jury determining reasonableness. Good luck convincing 11 other people who have never so much as touched a gun that the officer wasn't reasonable.

We load nosler 240 or 220 grains with h110 at bottom to middle of hodgdon recommended. You need a true magnum powder to keep it happy h110, 2400..... Accurate #9 to near max recommended with nosler 240 grains cycles fine and locks the slide most of the time. only revolver caliber I use a gauge for so if you don't have one consider picking one up. We have pretty good luck with factory ammo, but has a few rounds through it. Enjoy. It rocks with h110.

My right lense in my glasses has a weaker prescription that the left. It's not as clear. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I547 using Tapatalk

Stuck at work, have fun tonight.

That just means no revolvers, you should be good.

It comes down to what feels best for you that you shoot the best. Given the choice between an M&P9 or a 4th gen Glock 17 I'll go with the Glock due to familiarity with the platform.

I've owned multiple copies of both. Been to both armorer courses.  If I could cram Glock guts in the M&P that would be ideal. Since I can't I only use Glock now.  I just carve up my Glock frames to give me decent or better in my mind, ergonomics.  I like the G19 size and weight. 

I moved from 20 miles East of Rochester in early June. East TN is great. We bought a place a little South of Jonesborough. Still getting settled so haven't had the time to do a lot of shooting yet but have converted one of my 10-22s to a thumbhole stock, officially a NY assault rifle now and bought a couple of standard magazines for my Glock. I have setup some steel behind the house so I can shoot off my deck, that needs some more work and more steel but it will come with time. Was just back in NY last week to move the last of my shop out of the state.   Have you narrowed down your area of interest yet?  I have a great realtor that works out of Kingsport that spent many days with us till we found the right house. He said I could recommend him to any of my conservative Yankee friends.   Jim...

  I don't see anything to purify water.  Likely the thing that will kill more people then anything else.   Thanks Robert 

Thanks again everyone.  My HCP came in the mail the other day and I took the new baby out on the town.  I like the way it fits.  I might look in to the 9 round mag, but for now, I like the comfort and it feels nice having a .45 on me when I am out.  I will still carry the G19 from time to time, but I am really starting to like the G30.

Shouldn't the Forestry Dept be in a wood structure instead of a block building? :) Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk

Heavy weapons? I didn't see any barricaded heavy machine guns or MK-19's. I bet the rioting would have calmed way down after one long rip from a MA Deuce or MK 19. Sent from the backwoods

I don't have much to say on the primary subject of the thread as I think that btr96, SWJewelTN and others have articulated most of my views reasonably well. I do want to address an argument that I have seen made repeatedly in this thread and elsewhere whenever the subject of interactions between the police and the public has arisen. Variations of arguments that question the standing of those critiquing cop behavior to even do so because they don't have an LE background are just plain bad argumentation. It is one thing to use your background in LE to explain why you do things a certain way. That's a valid argument, but to say that someone shouldn't question a tactic or action because they don't understand what it is like to be a cop is in no way shape or form a valid argument. It is the equivalent of feminists saying that men can't have an opinion of abortion because they lack a vagina or when SJWs say that folks can't question certain behaviors because they aren't of a particular race. It is simply a tactic to silence the other party without substantively addressing the topic actually being discussed. When you say "you need to be a ______ or you wouldn't understand what _____ go through" what you are really saying is that you can't make a strong argument to support your position would rather try to weasel out of the debate by delegitimization of your opponent.

My wife picked up a bag to shoulder carry an oxygen tank. Fits my mini Draco perfectly even with a side folder. The only issue is a 20 round mag is a little too tall. I will pick up a 10 rounder and see how it works. If it does who is going to say anything to a guy on crutches holding an oxygen bag.

  Because carrying a firearm (outside your vehicle, home, business, etc.) is a crime. The HCP is a defense to the crime, not an exception to it.   Operating a motor vehicle is not a crime in and of itself. Operating without a license is, but as no crime can be reasonably suspected simply by operating the vehicle, no stop can be made just to check the license. there's no probable cause to stop. Some other reason for the stop must be found. The littany of traffic rules makes that pretty easy though. Exceeding the posted limit, impeding the flow of traffic, failed to signal a lane change, partially obscured plates. The list is a long one.

I needed a leather sheath for the camp knife I made and after some discussions back and forth I had Mark@Sea....a fellow forum member make one for me. It's absolutely stunning...it exceeded all my expectations. It's exactly what I wanted and couldn't be happier with his design and quality of work. If you're in need of a wonderful sheath or some other leather item you owe it to yourself to sent him a PM and see if he can help you. I know I plan on using him for all my leather sheaths in the future. Feast your eyes on this masterpiece he provided me.

  If they're not agin' you, they're for you. But how long will they be "for" you if you go around calling them "idiots" on nationwide internet gun forums because they slipped up and said CCW? I lived in a CCW state for 54 years and even after being given a Tennessee State Certified Handgun Instructor rating.....even after having taught the course, I slipped up once and said "CCW" instead of "HCP" just from force of habit. And just for the record I don't think that makes me an idiot and I really don't like being called one.

  David, gotcher ears on? TGO TinFoil Hat, perfect swag for the store!   - OS

That the rider says he noticed the cop watching him and went about his business anyway makes me think this isn't his first rodeo. How he handles the stop would seem to confirm that. Had I noticed the cop watching me, I probably would have fiddled about with the bike for a few minutes just to see if he'd lose interest. If not, why even get on the bike? Just walk over and say hello.

Me and the wife both laughed our a## off at this. These morons really think they were slick with this easy web cheating. As far as someone hacking TGO or other gun websites, what would they learn? We all hate obama and have guns?

Never too late. It is a hardwood herbicide. It'll kill thistles, wild roses, blackberries, small trees, etc. It does the job that Roundup just won't do. I think it only takes about a teaspoon to a gallon of water to do the trick.   I mix a bit with my weedkiller to get what it doesn't. Works great.

if I feel the need to have a gun to go somewhere I don't go.   Go live life, it is not always about the damn gun.

Like I said: