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I have a SHTF stock pile that I started long before the madness, I will not get into it just for range time. That allows me the luxury of being able to shoot what I find now, with the exception of .22lr. I have several thousand rounds but not knowing when I could replace them I am reluctant to send them down the pipe without something in exchange, i.e. a squirrel, or something else for the cookfire.   On a side note, My FIL asked me tonight if I knew where to get some .22, I just chuckled. He told me he finished last box last week. I told him I had not seen any in a few weeks just to keep trying online and checking the stores. Then it happened, he asked if I still had some. I said I had a few, I had searched and found some online about a month ago. he asked if he could have some of mine so he could target shoot some more. He is a die hard democrat and I could not help but laugh as I told him, "that is a democrat for you, you spent al of yours so now you want some of what I have worked for and saved." I asked him how he voted last year, and he grinned and said "you know how I voted" so I told him "you reap what you sow." I also declined to "share the wealth". Does that make me an ass hole?

  If I read it it would be at the library.....I wouldn't give the author the sweat off of my sack.

Wife and I are way over do on buying a larger house, 2013 may be the year of the big buy.  One of the stipulations I have (which isn't many), must have a location and acerage that I can shoot and pee outside.  Love to have  a similiar setup like Hickok45.  Nothing fancy, doesn't have to be flat, but just the abilty and no complaining neighbors.

Does anyone really think that the federal government is capable of keeping an accurate database for the millions (likely in excess of 200 million privately owned in the U.S.) of weapons in the country?  To the best of my knowledge (and actually I know of more than one specific example); the government can't keep the current NFA registry accurate and up to date even with about 70 years to get it right and with a tiny fraction of weapons to keep track of...if they can't do that how are they going to do it when the work expands exponentially? More to the point, people will be people...some people WILL NOT COMPLY and never think a thing about it. I'm not saying the government won't try, especially when you have useful idiots like Bob Pope out there extolling the problem of the non-existent "gun show loophole" but the government actually making it work?  I don't think so.

Don't try this at home , home made fire works http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BGAbmQev0o

I always thought this was why he hates everything...

Scope adapter to use your iPhone to record what you see through your scope. I was really interested in getting one until I seen the price. It is a little more than I want to spend for a toy. But it would be cool for those who hunt.   http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=q4UnWFP9dr4#!   More info here: http://theiscope.com/wordpress/   Order here: http://theiscope.com/wordpress/?page_id=8   Dolomite

Anyone else going to watch it?   I never miss it, even had a party one year for it when I forgot it fell on my wedding anniversary date, LOL.   The warden is a trooper and did not flinch or smack me for it.  Even made a bunch of food to help out.   I would like to see Danica win but I don't particularly root for her.  I am picking Smoke to win but my heart will be riding around in Mark Martin's car.  If he wins I would probably start bawling.   I always get sort of homesick for Florida for this race.  If we still lived down there I would have been at the track this week for Thursday, Friday and Saturday's races,  We mostly never stuck around for the 500 except for '98 when Dale won it,   hoping for a safe race and MM in victory lane at the end.

After reloading a few 9mm's, I was finally able to get out today and test them out. I'm happy to report that they worked wonderfully in my Glocks 17 and 26!    My loads were 115gr FMJ, with 5.5grains of Unique powder. OAL was 1.15 with fed through the pistols without a hitch. The brass that I was able to recover (shooting outside) was relatively clean with no splitting. I'm guessing that I'm going to stick with this formula for my target ammo since it works.   It sure feels good to shoot your own ammo without a problem... or at least it did for me.

Oh Shiite!

Looks good to me. I find your stitching really impressive. Someone always chimes in with the uncovered trigger comment. How many cover the trigger when carrying a shotgun through bird country or sitting in a treestand with their trusty ought 6? I like a western flair to gun accessories. Here's one I tried a while back and sorta liked:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=related&v=jwHYRBNc9r8

First time for my son and I to ever shoot the range. We enjoyed it and will be back. Was impressed how smooth it was ran and what great range officers we had (LagerHead). They ran a safe, tight ship but without a range nazi attitude and that was deeply appreciated. We left learning a few things about shooting steel, and met some great folks at the same time who were more than happy to share tips and opinions about gear, guns, etc. Hope to make it a regular monthly run. MCTS does it right!

Thanks for coming out folks!!!  It was definitely a great event.  Our count was about 400-500 people.  We got 300 signatures on our petitions and also got to meet some great people.  We are not happy with WSMV's reporting of the event.  They said "dozens" of people showed up.  I have already been talking with the news producer about it and was not successful in getting them to change it. Oh well, biased reporting will not stop us from standing up for our rights.   We will be doing another event in the future, likely April or May time frame.  I am thinking the next one will be in East Tennessee in the Knoxville area.  We like to do the rallies, but we also have to focus on other things as well.  Rallies are fun and a great way to get together, but they are limited in what they accomplish.  The real fight is in getting our elected leaders stand up for our rights.  That's our primary mission at this point.

Let me.range find some of our family land. I may be able to setup a 1k range. Ill just have to check. I paced my field last week and I have 400 yds avliable right now if you guys wanna make the trip out here

I would take either one. They both look great.

Did I mishear or did Niceley not say that Ms Maggert did not do anything wrong and that the efforts to unseat her were wrong?  Did he not say that the NRA and specifically LaPierre and Cox were both democrats and never do anything to support republicans?  Like I said, I'm still processing all I heard but I firmly believe that our problems are both in Nashville and Wash DC.  Harris said that the current parking lot bill did nothing to protect us from either being fired or from criminal prosecution.  I would have been more comfortable if Niceley had at least rebutted that.  I am not really into arguing and I am neither a democrat or republican but I really wish that the entire rally had been taped, at least for posting on the net.  I do not believe that either democrats or current republicans are our friends.

Yes, wife and I were there. The TFA guy was knowledgable but wore us out.....he rambled for it seemed 30 minutes telling us minute details about some piece of legislation that never reached a vote. Seemed sort of pointless. Nicely did a good job and was brief. I do not understand your question about Nicely. He told us that the Republicans have passed 21 good gun bills in the last several years and reminded us how bad things were with Naifey [sic]. A good rally and, they are going to have more of them. The TFA guy told us that our problems are in Nashville and Nicely told us that our problems are in D.C. which I am more inclined to believe.

I'll watch the wreck highlights later. Other than that, I have no interest in people turning to the left for hours on end   NSFW language warning   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UC9Zi1Fpq1Y

at this time the price of any gun is hard to get.  it is worth what the buyer is willing to give for it.  one thing i would look at  is the price of a new glock 20.  i would not give more than what a glock 20 is going for.  

You know the answer to that...most politicians, regardless of party and any declared "core principles", are only truly concerned with obtaining and maintaining power and are loath to do anything they don't have to do or be forced into taking any sort of stand on something because doing so means that they will alienate some group and therefore lose votes and campaign donations. We no longer have a representative republic; we have a ruling class of elites who get elected to what essentially becomes life-long careers and a slightly less elite class of life-long bureaucrats...as long as that exists we cannot have the freedom and liberty our founders intended for us to have.

  that is the reason the store I am at has a public restroom. If someone needs to go they will just walk around back and do it.   We don't exactly want people peeing on our walls.

carry as many as you can safely tote around.  There is no limitation on how many.

Mosin rifle is perfect as is.  The Great Socialist Revolution has provided perfect rifle for Workers to use against Greedy Capitalist running-dog Oppressors!  All Workers are Equal with this rifle.  Bolt operation gives Workers Strong Right Arm!  Only weak American lackey arms need to use hammer or wood stick to beat bolt open when rifle gets warm!   Replace wood stock grown from trees of the Holy Motherland with Capitalist plastic produced from greedy aristocratic oil-scum ?!  Take this unpatriotic mewling scum out and shoot him with Excellent Cheka Commisar Nagant pistol.

Sunday Morning Update... Please take a look at the first post in this thread again and vote once more on the poll. I came up with a design that I think maybe is more in tune with what's going on in the political space right now and represents our desire to see the Second Amendment not infringed upon. We need to decide which of these to produce first. Both stand a good chance of being produced in time, but if we had one choice which would it be? Here's the new design:

I tend to think that 6.8 and Robert are right on this one.  I think all this is noise.  The gubmt would like to do all this stuff, but any "...everybody gets a background check..." law is largely uninforceable.  The dammed criminals sure aint doin the background check thing.  How are they gonna know when ya "transfer" a firearm;... individual surviellence, drones, spies, astral overseers...???    More than that; no polititian is gonna put his name on the passage of a "gun registry database" law; except in a kommunist enclave like kalefornia or new york.  I think this is red meat for the idiots and a fairytale dream for the nobamaites.  I'm old enough to remember the fallout from the gun control act of 1968.  Ask al gore jr about that one.   All that havin been said, keep sending the dollars to the NRA and watch the dammed politicos closely.   leroy

If you own a business and you don't want people coming in just to use the restroom, then put up a sign that says "For Patrons Only". Otherwise, I'm using it and don't feel compelled to buy anything.

I would seek some kind of civil case against the cop. It sounds like me like he is misusing his position to gather information for the benefit of a business, such as the cop is in cahoots with the business owner. Sounds to me like this is no different than a cop running someone's information to give to a third party "buddy", which I'm pretty sure is illegal. The facts of the case are the officer ran the person's information who had not committed a crime, then turned said info over to a third party. No way that is legal.

Personally I always buy something if I use a store or restaurant's restroom. I look at it as common courtesy! I know it doesn't cost them much for to use, but a couple of gallons of water, some soap, and paper products DO cost that business something, Not to mention the time it takes for a person to maintain the facilities. And then of course there is the complete a** holes that actually tear them up! Of course I am sure they business owners do get tired of people who come in just to use it and leave and I cant blame them but I beat it is going to cost them more in negative publicity now (hell, I don't want to eat there, just because of this)!   But honestly it IS an abuse of public trust and was very poor decision for the sheriff to give that information out! I would be surprised if it doesn't break some law that says what can be done with that information. THIS is the much more serious issue in this entire incident, if you ask me!

Contact Fury holster Co. in Knoxville.

They're throwing everything against the glass and hoping some of it sticks....Did ya'll read about Oregon in todays news?

Must be the build quality of the latest rifles, as mine does not look anywhere that good. Does yours have a safety on the top right in front of the hammer? I am asking because yours looks like the Rossi/Puma instead of the Rossi/Braztech. I got the gunslinger kit from Brownells for about 20 bucks.

  The problem with this is that guys who need help will drop out of the process too.  It shouldn't be freely handed out but the process shouldn't be so onerous as to discourage claimants. 

The Marlins are great; just get one without a safety. Browning makes a very nice copy of a model 92 Winchester. Winchester also makes a 92, as well as a 94 chambered for 357. The are fine as well. For the money, I really like my Rossi 92 in 357.

Libs have to control everything...

I think the story will get them enough bad advertising that they will rethink their business and wish they never tried to get that $5. Hopefully it costs them $10,000 in business   As for the cop, hopefully there's an investigation on him and he is held accountable. If there was no police report filed, then he has nothing to investigate. Maybe I'm wrong, but I thought there needs to be some type of report before they know what to investigate. Sounds like it's a case of "I messed up, now backtracking to CYA"

I was just reading the one I got too and....hold on there's some guys in black SUVs in the driveway, be right back...

    Having trouble editing the quote on this pc so just going to leave it as is.   @ LagerHead Please go back and note that I didn't say this place was a crap hole. Second, popularity doesn't mean you are right. Obama comes to mind. More people voted for him than anyone else running.   That said, I come here because certain sections contain information I find useful and/or entertaining. Also, some people here (OhShoot is the first one that comes to mind) are willing and able to explain using facts, logic etc to explain their point. I respect him because even when he schools me, he isn't disrespectful.    Some on here though, enough to apparently give this place a reputation, are disrespectful. Some here apparently lack basic concepts of logic, are completely incapable or unwilling to even consider a different viewpoint, take comments out of context, etc. If I say something on here, then it's because I believe it to be true. Doesn't mean it is the truth currently, or that it was ever true. It may simply be my opinion. If someone disagrees, then by all means say so. Tell me why you think (or can prove) I am wrong.   But when someone takes what I say and twists it, then I attempt to correct them. In this thread, I finally decided this battle wasn't worth fighting, and walked away.    Lastly, I personally think this forum has its good points. I also think it is a great place for the media to come and get comments to use in their biased stories. So I will continue to visit as long as I am welcome.

And how about those who bump their grossly over-priced ads on a daily basis, or even multiple times daily?  :taser: 

  I wouldn't vote for Christie. Which part of the electorate? Democrats?

They tried to talk me into the PTSD crap also. Its like they want you to claim it. Yeah, no thanks. I have no reason to ptsd

Yep, I practically had to argue with the rep doing my VA paperwork on why I'm not claiming PTSD. Made me wonder about all the people they hit up on the way out who see that as free money and the closest they got to combat was having an indirect round impact near their FOB.

It does very very little, frankly. It is not really much more than a bone being thrown at HCP holders in hopes that they'll shut up and let the ruling elite work in important things (like securing more campaign donations). ;)

Dear Meh-he-ko Would you say we have a plethora of guns? EY! ES A SWEATER!

I like it! One of the four way type stand off deals. That would mean you would need 8 prop guns though. Maybe they will have enough. If not you can always paint your hands black and point at them with your fingers in the shape of a gun. If it passes as a gun for a school principal then it must be good enough!

Hahaha, they think they're people... how cute.

  Thanks for the kind words.  Actually I have practiced drawing from this holster quite a bit during the past couple of weeks. Each time I've drawn the pistol, I find my trigger finger tends to land along the bottom of the rail and not close to the trigger. This does help in controlling the pistol until time to fire. I'm not a big guy with huge hands either, but then this is the Glock 30 which is a shorter version of Glock and not full size. This could be the difference.  I could see this being possibility with a full size Glock. I've been thinking of getting one for my Glock 17. I'll keep this in mind.  Thanks for the heads up!

I'll commission my own study: According to my study, 9 out of 10 liberals who ran their mouth about stuff they know nothing about were punched in the face for saying stupid things. The obvious solution to the problem is to limit the 1st Amendment rights of people for their own protection and to reduce the number of violent assaults, which have become a health concern.

I've never been a fan of this legislation, it's the reason I'm not helping out at the TFA anymore, hopefully I'll change my mind after this issue is done and over with.   But, in the grand scheme of things it appears the only infringement is on the least concerning of my issues with the legislation...  They're basically removing 39-17-1359 postings from public parking lots...  Since I'm fine with doing away from 1359 altogether, this isn't a big loss of freedom for business owners in my book.   Private lots will continue to be off limits, employers and employees can continue to engage in contracts at will....  in the grand scheme of things this is about the least bad version of the legislation I could imagine.   Not sure it was worth all the political capitol that the NRA and the TFA has spent.    

swim615 is a solid guy.