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I've been a cop for about 20 years...Depts ranging in sizes from 1450 sworn to my current one that's about 75 sworn. Yeah, I've met these types.  A minority, but they exist everywhere.  Yes, it's sickening.   Anyway, geography also matters.  LAPD, NYPD, Boston PD, etc., their political views (along with their Dept's and State's), generally, will be vastly different from a TN cop.  Believe me, I used to live/work in New York. Currently, I supervise 13 officers...and I'm pretty proud of them when it comes to stuff like this.

I've been back and forth on my thoughts of the likelihood of anything significant actually happening if Zimmerman is acquitted. There is definitely a part of me that thinks a lot of this is just talk. While there has been isolated riots in the past (Rodney King, Watts, etc.) there hasn't been anything really widespread. Then I realized that everything in the past was pre-Twitter. From the on Twitter organized flash-robs/mobs to the Arab Spring uprisings, Twitter has allowed for on the fly organizing and communication in a manner not seen before. It would be very easy for a few folks to hit the streets, send out a few tweets and then be joined by hundreds or thousands in very little time. I initially brushed the idea off, but now I think that it would be prudent to have a plan in place in case things really pop off here in Memphis.

Gordon next time you talk to him tell him Mike Hahn said to go "F" himself.   Except add the "uck" to it.   I have no respect for those who think they are better than others.  He sounds like a total jackass and if possible I would tell him how I feel personally.     Yeah,  I should not defend myself or my loved ones but he can?  Yep, he can go pound sand.

He has a disease. One day he will meet someone that has the cure.

A paper grocery sack isn't "suspicious" nor is entering/exiting a retail establishment that sells alcohol beverages amongst it's groceries items. The agents had zero RS, let alone PC to reasonably believe that a crime had been comitted by those girls &/or the clerk at the store. Bottled water, cookie dough & icecream = a couple of innocent college girls getting bum-rushed in the parking lot by plain clothes officers with brandished weapons? No-one should be "ok" with that.

  I've done some things with girls that would be considered immoral in 35 states. :) Where does that fit into all of this? :)

I think they should also immediately repeal most government benefits that come with being married.

  Robert.  I, and lots of others like yourself, i believe; would like to have seen (...notice the passed tense...) this be done fairly and with impartiality.  I'm also hopin for that in the trial.  But, to my thinkin, the sad fact is that any pretense of fairness and impartiality was thrown out in this particular case when the political class opportunists took the investigation and reviews for criminal charges out of the hands of the local police department and prosecuting attorney; and started the "witch hunt" for George Zimmerman to placate the rabble who were "outraged" at the supposidely heinous murder of a child (...who wuz really an 18 year old, 185 lb. thug...).     The real loosers in this whole debacle are the citizens of the state of florida.  They have seen that the political class on both sides of the spectrum are nothin but opportunists usin the power of the state to maliciously prosecute an individual to score political points; which, in itself, is clearly illegal.  They have murdered the rule of law in florida and sent a message to every potential dissident in the state that all you have to do to get a punitive prosecution on an individual basis is to raise a little hell and get on tv threatening to upset the political applecart and call in a few favors to the race-baiters ALA Sharpton and Jackson; not to mention threatening to vote the "wrong way" next election.     Let's hope that this sort of "law" doesnt spread to other places, like tennessee, for instance.  On a personal basis, i dont think it will.  My guess is that this is a 50/50 state carpetbagger thing.     leroy

If you are permitted to carry a handgun that's between you and the State.   The guy is full of shit and only trying to sell you a sticker.  Everyone knows that a gun show conceal carry badge hanging from a chain around your neck is the only proper badge of honor.

  and the rest don't care.

Them queers is everywhere! :)

nice release about the US spying on the EU.   I learned a long time ago that two wrongs don't make a right.  Certainly the US is spied on,  and everyone who justifies our countries actions used that to make it seem right.,  I don't know really what to think,  other than the two wrongs don't make a right thing.   If we gotta spy on people we darn well ought to do a better job of covering the tracks.     Snowden is a patriot.  And those in the .gov pissed about it are just afraid of the dirt from the crappy job they do of covering their tracks.  

What game is this and what is his gamer tag so I might destroy him.

I have listened to him for about a week now on a game server I have started playing on. He doesn't spew this nonsense unless it comes up.   He is NOT a troll and he IS in LE. He has all the mannerisms and nuances most anyone who has been in LE has.   This is the same kind of attitude that contributed to me leaving LE for good. This is not to bash LE because 90% of them are great people who actually care and want to do what is right. The other 10% give the 90% a bad name with their antics.

Well, here is a newsflash for you.........underage drinking is a crime ABC agents focus on in every state. You are not going to see ABC agents investigating crimes like murder, rape, robbery, etc.... They are going to focus on alcohol related crime, that is their job. Odds are that Harris Teeter store has a track record of selling alcohol to underage people, so the agents are merely focusing their efforts where the crime exists. They are going after the buyers, but ultimately want to get the sellers. That being said, and if the news story is accurate, the tactics they used are just plain dumb. Swarming three young ladies in a store parking lot, at night, in plainclothes is just ridiculous. At the very minimum, the agents who make the contact should be in some sort of uniform that makes them immediately recognizable a LEOs. And here is another suggestion for these agents: in the future, it might be prudent to have an agent in the store to verify that someone actually bought alcohol.....and not bottled water. These guys were full of the stupid. I can only hope that they will look at this, learn a lesson and change their tactics. Sorry sore subject. Kinda like NFA laws. I can join tbe military at 18 (17 with parental consent) and go fight and possibly die for my country but I can't drink a beer. Like I said, maybe we could focus all this time and money on real crime instead of having another useless agency like the ATF. sent from the backwoods

  Remember the big huff over Chick-fil-a? I don't think ANY of my homo friends supported that. It was 99% outraged libtards. Most gay folks, at least the ones I know, just wanna live their lives.

  They? A few of my gay friends shoot guns and hate Obama. The biggest difference (except the things they do behind closed doors) is that they have lots better decorating skills than me. My point... all homos ain't the same. There is no they.

I'm still waiting to hear one legitimate argument as to why gays should not be allowed equality under the law. And the bible is not a legit argument, due to separation of church and state. Without u tube I couldn't field strip half my guns...

  Ain't nothin' better than a Leroy rant. :)  You nailed it!

It looked like right before the charges were dropped they knew they really effed up cause they contacted the father and tried to say they would drop the charges as a favor to everyone as long as the kid and his family would sign agreements not to talk to the media about it. The father was on tv and he said something like "don't you think it's funny they are offering this? Well, they are wrong and my son did nothing illegal or bad, so we're not signing anything and we're going to fight". 24 hours later, this happened and now they are going with a civil suit against the school. Good fir this kid, and I'm glad his dad has a sharp head on him.

If voicing my opinion that being gay is morally wrong makes me a homopobe then I guess I'm a homophobe. If you guys will excuse me I have some skinheads over for a beer and a cross to burn later tonight. >_> I love how disagreeing with something makes you a bad guy instantly. I also don't agree with abortion. That doesnt mean I hate people who have had one, or who do agree with it. I don't agree with the gay lifestyle because of my relegious beliefs. That doesn't mean I hate gays or that Im gonna bomb a gay marriage ceremony. I guess some people believe in freedom of choice as long as you agree with the majority sent from the backwoods

I just hope they're not all carrying Skittles. Looks bad on the news when you have to shoot somebody that's carrying Skittles.

Should be time well spent. Then, you can apply what you learned while trying to make it out of Memphis :)   I'm kidding... didn't y'all see the smiley?

Well, I just opened a second account.  :yuck:

Ignoring all that internet chatter, I think the threat to him is very real. The people that will go after him aren’t posting on twitter and I doubt they are the type to challenge him to gun fight. The New Black Panthers openly put a bounty on him dead or alive and the justice department stood by silently; that says a lot. There are people waiting for a reason to riot; they don’t care about Martin or Zimmerman. Either way the verdict goes; they will use it as a reason to destroy property and steal stuff.

Actually it's probably a good thing she didn't have a firearm. It appears from the video that she is caucasion & as a result might have been put on trial for being a racist who "murdered" an unarmed black guy.

I thought this was the sticker:

Sorry to hear that, I know how disappointed you are. :D

Putting all BSing aside all shooting sports needs to be on top of safety that's all we need is a accidental discharge going some where it shouldn't. Hell I can see it on the 6:00 news now. Some rules you can fudge on some ya can't. I dont think I'll ever be a SO way to much BS my hats off to you boys

I think it has been made clear by both sides on this issue that SYG has absolutely nothing to do with this case.

No....he IS a disease.....worse than cancer. Just like Pelosi, Reid and all the rest.

I will try and walk this line as carefully as possible. Folks like him are the enemy, no two ways about it. Especially when folks like him are allowed into a position where they have any sort of perceived power or authority. The second best method of dealing with people like that is that once they are discovered, expel them from their positions and prevent them from ever again having more responsibility or power than a volunteer crossing guard. That man and those like him are the enemy, and should be treated as such.

Let him stay in LA and call all true conservatives to the East of the Rockies then Write them off.

Thanks Will post ASAP, thing caught me from left field. Nice thing about uppers is they're easy to sneak into the house ;)

And the hundred or so companies that they own?

I don't agree with government limiting rights either. Just because something is legal doesn't mean I have to agree with it or that its morally right. I choose not use youtube now because they sent me an email and have big banners on google proclaiming their pride in the LGBT community. I do not agree with that lifestyle and think its morally wrong. I'm not saying they don't have rights, just that I don't have to support them. I'm with daddyo. I dont give a damn about starting some movement. I come here for good discussion which is what I get, especially with post like these. As far as pulling out of any company that supports gay rights heres how I see it. I will conitinue to support your company as long as you don't push the issue in my face. If I see an ad or a banner that says you do it then I'll stop. Just like anti gunners. I don't give a crap if you like guns or not. If you post an anti-gun sign I stop doing business with you. Your choice to stand up for your beliefs and my choice to stand up for mine. sent from the backwoods

I think this one still aint over.  Let's keep watchin.   leroy

  That's the whole deal. Gun owners, of all people, should get that.

I'm generally in favor of more freedom. Doma was clearly unconstitutional. Denying citizens the right to marry who they choose is no different than Jim Crow laws.

It is reported that they caught him. It would be justice to let the woman have at him with a baseball bat.

Here's my "symbol".

that's certainly a possible outcome.   I'm trusting that the jury will really be as fair and impartial and thoughtful as possible; that may be too much to hope for but I'll hope for it anyway. That way, regardless of which way it goes I can at least tell myself that the man got a fair trial and justice was served.

Spots, you are not a homophobe unless you are actually scared of homos.  Like their gonna come and get ya scared.  I seriously doubt that is the case.   That term is one of the worst pieces of PC, technically incorrrect bull#### ever thrust upon this nation.

  Dead fish smell takes a lot of covering up.   - OS

Here is the scenario you pose: A group of anti-gun protesters traveling the country to push for gun-control legislation likely using the argument that gun owners are gun-obessed, irresponsible, and potentially dangerous.  You propose, in response, that a bunch of gun owners should show up with open-carrying to make a political point.  Who are you trying to persuade with your action?   Clearly, the anti-gun group are not going to be convinced.  Rather, they would use the display as evidence that gun-owners are crazy and can't even let people peaceably assemble without showing up armed to intimidate them (kind of like the Black Panthers at the polling place).  It would follow that the only reason someone would choose to use a gun to intimidate someone is if they would actually use the firearm, thus reinforcing their point further.  The media, generally ignorant about lawful gun ownership, would be more than happy to "report" this armed protest and the talking heads would spin it up as proof that gun owners are out-of-control. Gun owners don't need to be convinced that gun ownership and carry is safe, so your actions would not do anything with that group either. So really the group that all gun owners should actually be concerned with are the biggest group in American politics, the "mushy middle" that is minimally informed on issues, has little interest in becoming informed, and easily falls prey to media hype and spin.  I think it is very safe to presume that most Americans are not especially informed about gun ownership and are not comfortable with people openly carrying firearms (right or wrong, that is reality).  To back up my point, during my police career, I had multiple people challenge the lawfulness and wisdom of police officers carry firearms off-duty, so I am confident that they would have an issue with private citizens doing it.  So to prove how prudent and safe gun owners are, you are suggesting that a bunch of armed people show up at a protest of unarmed individuals.  The story the media story that will result (the one mentioned above) will easier for them to comprehend and digest than your argument since they are already socialized to believe that guns are dangerous and armed citizens are also dangerous and we can't have people walking around openly toting guns like it's the Old West.   This is the point I make over and over again, and not just with gun owners.  Protests that are not specifically tailored to the group you need to convince are not helpful and are likely to alienate the people we need to win over.  If you want to do an open carry rally, fine, but there is a right time and place for that and it can't be like the one that just happened in Pennsylvania where they openly violated the law to make their point and then verbally assaulted the police who showed up to investigate the crimes.  

The senator's yes vote says everything I need to know. I don't give a crap what he says, it's what he does that matters. So, yeah, fuck that guy.

They vote for a living.

Well, it might until annexation.  Then the story changes.   I like the premise though.  Taxes are a taking, I am all for getting the government out of my wallet, and my bank account. Y'all figure out how to forestall the City, the County and the School Board let me know.

I have mixed feelings on this. While I absolutely hate it when a neighbor allows their property to become overgrown, I also absolutely hate the government forcing homeowners to maintain their own property (or else) iffin the homeowner doesn't want to or can't do so (for whatever reason). That's the problem with "freedom" it is completely chaotic by nature, people going around doing or not doing whatever the heck they feel or don't feel like doing (so long as they aren't hurting anyone else). *shrug* I guess I just love "freedom" more than I hate unkempt yards ...