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Guys, I am now an employee (part time; better than sitting making NOTHING!) at Sumner Gun and Supply in Gallatin. Not sure of the scheduling as yet, but I will keep you posted.   Hope when I do get the schedule squared away, some of ya will come by and say hi!

  Since we've never met, I'm gonna come by and ask the dumbest shit I can think of. Then, when your head is about to explode, I'll come clean and welcome you to the firearms business :). Congrats. You'll have a blast.

Woah, you're the one saying stop complaining about a ruling that is 'constitutional' because SCOTUS ruled so, and focus on stopping drunk driving instead... which can't be stopped through any reasonable or logical method so it's a false argument.   I have a natural right (and protected by the constitution) to have freedom of movement without having to show my papers within the US...  Any ruling by any court, any law by any level of government is a violation and an infringement on those natural rights...  The method I use to travel doesn't change or alter my right to free travel, even more so if the excuse used is because said mode of travel wasn't invented at the time the constitution was written.   Just because a group or majority of people follow an unconstitutional law/ruling, or are so poorly educated to not recognize the violation of their natural rights, doesn't give the ruling or law anymore authority, or make the violation of peoples freedoms who do notice any less serious.   Does the fact that millions of black people followed the 'separate but equal' laws that were ruled constitutional by SCOTUS make those rulings any less immoral, or a lesser violation on the civil rights of black Americans who suffered through them for decades?  No of course not.   You might be fine giving up your freedom for the fake security of DUI checkpoints...  but you have no right or authority to give up MY freedoms and rights for your crusade against drunk drivers...  anymore than the men and women who sit on the bench have...  It's not your freedom to give or take, it belongs to me and only I can willing give up my freedoms...  Just because I'm suffering through these violations doesn't make it any less immoral or less of a gross violation of my natural rights.   ​The real problem here is nobody ever explained liberty, freedom and rights to you...  you've somehow gotten the notion in your head that somehow your rights come from the law, the government, or the collective of society...  and are not endowed to you individually by your creator...   Robert with all do respect you seem to think you know what's best for your fellow man, that somehow your choices are the 'right' choices and they should be forced to obey for your vision for the good of society...  That your perceived risk of drunk drivers is so great that we must force innocents to suffer at the hands of the government to save us from this 'threat'...  This is the same twisted line of thinking as used by many of the progressives you love to disagree with on a regular basis :)   I'm smart enough to realize I don't know what's best for my fellow man, that there can never be a 'perfect' or safe society...  That I'm not smart enough to see all of the unintended consequences of my 'master plan'...  the best I can do is trust they will do what is in their best interest for themselves and their families, and unless they physically harm me, or steal from me, it's none of my business what they do with that freedom. And that is all I ask in return from them.   But hey look on the bright side, your argument is winning in the public, and it's working out so well for us as a country huh?  

I know why but cannot say. People would send jesse and al after me thinking I'm racist, which I am not. sent barefoot from the hills of Tennessee

Go look at the titles of the people on the peace prize committee. Here's a hint: The people on the chemistry committee are chemists, the people on the biology committee are biologists, the people on the peace prize committee are a bunch of leftist pinko commie politicians (With maybe one exception but probably not).   And I bet they're feeling stupid now. What am I saying? Those kind of people have no shame.

And the Republican party put him up for President.  :wacko:   People wonder why Obama was elected.  :rolleyes:

Ok, second night was tonight. They close at 5, I went ina t 4:40 yesterday and tonight for range cleaning. Tonight, the first weirdness, lol...   A very nice deputy sheriff came in to visit another young man working. We met, and had a great time talking about various subjects. Conversation rolled around to how some of the officers can have a bit of an attitude. I related my story of getting pulled over a few years back, and he told me how the officer violated my 2nd and 4th amendment rights. He said guys like him will eventually run into someone that really knows the law and they will have a hard time.   I said, "Yeah, they'll run into Leonard."   He stared at me. Slowly, he said, "Don't... even... get me started. Leonard is my cousin. The whole family knows he's a f'n fruitcake."   I couldn't even speak...

You're a bigger disappointment than my 12th grade prom date.

Yeah. That would be great. Way to get the excitement up with a thread title only to disappoint. Hilarious. :rolleyes: :rofl:

You say that, yet you counter arguments of folks who say they are not constitutional by saying the SCOTUS already ruled on it, suggesting that the benchmark for what is or isn't constitutional is the SCOTUS opinion.

The way I read the reg's, if you don't live on the land, you must have a license.  Just get one, they're not that expensive. 

      Heh, when I was going to U.T. and for some time afterward I lived at my grandmother's house at 2314 East Fifth.  For those unfamiliar, East Fifth runs parallel to Magnolia and that location is roughly two or three blocks from Cherry Street.  Further, because I also worked while attending U.T., I would often come home after dark.    As a bonus, guess where I worked for much of the time I was in college, during the school year - as in the job I would regularly be leaving after dark?  If you said East Towne Mall you got it right.   And all this was before I carried a gun.  Throw in the fact that I am pretty close to being about as white as Wonderbread and I guess I am lucky to be alive!   Seriously, though, the Magnolia area was rough even then - I am convinced there was a crack house on the corner of East Fifth and Olive back then and we had more than one drive by shooting on our block, including drive-by shootings on the same house on two, separate occasions - the house across the street and one down from us.  I was at home when one happened and heard the shots (but didn't see anything.)   In all that time, the only time I was out and about, got really nervous and still to this day believe that my life was in danger happened in a remote location in Blaine at a small, public boat ramp/gravel parking lot where I went to fish.  Some guys parked their car across the lot but pointed so they were looking right at me.  I could see that they didn't have fishing gear and my situational awareness started yelling to get the heck out of there.  I tossed my stuff in the back of my pickup, got in the truck and headed out - and those guys fired up their car and tried to block the exit before I could get to it.  If not for the fact that I had learned to drive on gravel roads - meaning I knew how to maintain control and outmaneuver them - they would probably have cut me off before I could get out.  That incident stuck in my mind and got me started thinking about getting a carry permit.  I didn't actually act on that thinking (although I should have) until the Christian/Newsom murders happened some years later (after I had already moved out of Knoxville.)   There are two points to this:    One is that it would have been terribly ironic to have come to a bad end in a 'safe' area like Blaine while living in the 'hood, often coming in late at night and walking down the street to the corner store on a regular basis.   Two is that there are no 'safe' places, only places where the threat level is likely higher or lower than others.   I will say this:  Even back then I would not let female friends or girlfriends come to that neighborhood to see me alone after dark.  Also, I think the area has possibly gotten worse since then.  My grandmother is deceased and the house is no longer in the family so there is little reason for me to go to that area, now.  That said, there are a few restaurants around there that I like to visit from time to time (Philippine Connection on Magnolia, close to Chilhowee Park is one.)  That area and the downtown area of Chattanooga are the only places I go with any frequency where I make an effort to carry a high cap semiauto because I worry that the revolver I most often carry may not hold enough rounds to deal with a possible threat.   On the flip side, I guess that is why it always seems silly to me when folks start talking about the capacity of a revolver not being 'enough' unless they live or regularly frequent such locations - because I lived in the 'hood for just over a decade, never carried a gun at all and lived to tell the tale.  I did have to use a gun to 'deter' three guys who were trying to break down our front door in the middle of the night, once - but the gun I used was a revolver and it was plenty to send them running without having to fire a single shot.    Of course I was also younger and less cautious at the time - not to mention I worked out a lot in the student weight room at U.T. (got measured for a tux for a friend's wedding back then and learned that I had a 63 inch chest, 13 inch biceps, 21 inch neck and a 38 inch waist - I am in nothing like that kind of shape, now) and kept my head shaved so I probably didn't look like the best target.

So Robert since you're pro-DUI checkpoint because SCOTUS says so ... can we assume you're pro-Obamacare since SCOTUS says so?

Robert,   Lets pretend you're right...  That there is no natural right to freely travel via the least expensive, quickest, safest, easiest mode of travel...  Lets pretend for a minute that is the case...     Can we agree that you do have a right to freely travel in this country and that is a natural right?  If so what modes of travel are you free from being stopped with no RAS/PC at a checkpoint and be forced to show you papers?   I don't think anybody here is making the argument that drunk drivers shouldn't be punished when they get caught...  I see people complaining about checkpoints that stop people at random and force them to interact with the police when they haven't done anything criminal to justify the stop.   So again, is there a natural right to freely travel, and if so what modes of travel are covered by that natural right?    

  So nya :rofl:

The incorrectness of the original story aside, the bottom line here is that Obamacare if it is fully enacted (and I see little hope that it wont be) is the final puzzle piece in turning this country into a socialist society.and will cause the nation's looming financial collapse (if something else hasn't triggered it before hand).   Oh...leaders will still claim it's a free society founded on the principles of free market capitalism and a representative democracy all while you are told what doctors you can see and given medical treatment based on your "worth" to society...we'll still celebrate independence day and shoot off fireworks (if they aren't too loud or present a negative environmental impact) and we'll still, probably, be allowed to pray and worship as we chose (so long as we do so privately and/or our houses of worship don't overtly support its religious principles) but it will be nothing more than window dressing for a dead body that once was a republic.   I am just thankful that I'm old enough to have had at least a fleeting glimpse of what America used to be.

  If you understood, then you would not continue to post unrelated information. I'm not saying driving a vehicle on a public road is a right.  I'm saying that the freedom of movement is a right and that the mechanism of movement is neither here nor there for private transportation purposes.  Futhermore, the licensing and permitting of mechanisms of movement is a means of restricting and controlling the freedom of movement.   Looking through the wall of irrelevent words you posted, there is nothing about permitting or licensing of the mechanism of movement (horse and/or wagon). It appeared that the argument was that the state has the right to make people get licenses.  The license comes attached with a requirement to allow testing.  The people therefore must submit to testing to get a license to operate a mechanism of travel for private purposes. As far as your final argument, let's try something.  

In bigger cities I avoid MLK blvd and any intersections involving MLK blvd as well as 2-3 blocks on either side of MLK blvd. I also avoid any streets with state names or president names, ie Washinton ave, Jefferson ave, Texas ave, Oklahoma ave, etc. These seem to be pretty universal in every big city I have been too.   Also, most areas outside of military installations tends to be kind of rough around the edges.   In Knoxville Magnolia and about two blocks on either side of it are rough areas. I drive down it every time I go to town and never had an issue. We play the "Is she a hooker?" game as we go. I have been caught down there a time or two after dark and it is a very scary place to be.

Go to Bill's Outpost in Alcoa.  UPS usually delivers by noon and they usually have the whatever in their books by the time you get there.  They're also happy to do it.   They also have a massive selection of very, very well priced guns.  Better than any in Knoxville.  You might check there before ordering anything online as their prices are very competive.

I think it's a conspiracy to make Obama not look weak and stupid. They failed.

You notice we're talking about this, and not the IRS, NSA, ATF, Justice Dept., Benghazi, EPA granting special favors to friends, etc.?

I simply can't fathom someone not knowing where all their firearms are at any given time. This sort of 'honest mistake' is merely carelessness.   And no, not everyone here would make this lame-brained mistake.

If I were in your shoes I would be looking for a used commercial walk behind in 48" or 54" with a Velke(That's what you ride on.)  Used to run 2 54"ers when I had my lawn care business.  They are every bit as fast to mow with and turn as a zero turn, plus you don't get swamp butt sitting in that seat.  You can pick up a decent servicable used one for about $1500.

I think I have owned nearly every model of Glock made(not in every Gen) except the GAPS and the 10 MM's. For versatility I would have to say the 27/33 but in practicality ,,,,,,The Model 19 in any generation.

Again, stock photo until I get around to taking a worse one. Same design as the famous USMC Fighting Knife, but with a synthetic handle and sheath. I'm all about the history, and will get the leather version for the collection. I wanted a user, and this one is just better for the task...

Just got finished watching it. Not very realistic in what happened but it sure is action packed. Kinda like Die Hard, Crimson Tide and Under Siege only with a lot more weapons and a lot more killin”. I give it two thumbs up.

Negative. I don't think the gov should have any right to search me before going on an airplane. I had no problem when airport security was private, as airlines are private. If a private entity wants to search me before entering their establishment that is their call to make. The government doing it is called a violation of my rights.

  It was designed for Garands, in other words it's M2 ball.  Great stuff with nice, reloadable brass.

And if weren't for the irresponsibility of people who live unhealthy lives but won't carry health insurance....

We should stop complaining about unconstitutional gun legislation too.

  How is that apples and oranges?  If you're saying that it's apples and oranges because they are both fruits, sold similarly yet representing different sources of nutrition I guess I could see that.  You're saying that small slights against the Constitution are "okay" because of the irresponsible actions of the few.  Why would that only apply to the 4th Amendment and not the 2nd Amendment?   I'll argue that both Amendments have been attacked for that very purpose, yet you support one and not the other.... because one strikes more emotion with you than the other?  I dunno, could you explain that better?  I don't think there is a single person reading through your logic who agrees with you.

  It is difficult to question the validity or imagine the lack of long standing paradigms.  When you are accustomed to those paradigms it requires a change in frame of reference to see the them for what they are.

I decided to bow hunt this year after SEVERAL years of not hunting. Pulled out the old compound and slapped a brand new set of sights on it! So 4 lost arrows later I am the proud new owner of a Wicked Ridge crossbow :D

Obviously, they just hired him to sit in the corner and play soothing music.   :devil:   Seriously, congrats.

Congratulations, and yes part time is better than nothing. And being around guns and gun people all day while making money??? :rock:

I was against Pit Bulls most of my life up until I finally let a stray call my place home. She was absolutely the best dog that I have ever been around and went to work with me everyday. She would ride on everything from Atv's to truck's to trackhoes and bulldozers and couldn't stand to be left behind at home (abandonment issues huh). She never met a stranger whether it be human, dog or cat and was this way to a fault because I let her out one Saturday morning to play with the neighbor's dog and went inside long enough to fix a glass of water... that was long enough for someone to snatch her. I have not owned any other breed since her and have been extremely happy as they have been the most loving and eager to please dogs i've ever dealt with. While i've never had even the slightest issue, i've always raised them to be okay with kids pulling ears, tails, lips ect...but like any dog, they need to be well socialized. My wife and I have a 1 1/2 year old blue and white that loves kids to no end and anytime friends have their kids over they almost always end up asleep in the kennel with her arm wrapped around them. They are much more the "nanny dog" than they are the mean guard dog people make them out to be out of ignorance. Anyways... they are not for everyone and they definitely want to be inside with their owners. No matter what you settle on, training/acclimating them to be okay with anything kids or adults could possibly throw their was is very important. Good luck whatever way you decide to go.  

You've already made that argument. I understand your position; I don't agree and repeating it isn't going to change my mind.   Driving a motor veicle on public roadways is not a "right" (nor is any other particular form/method/mechanism of transport for that matter). As such, attempting to compare a method of transportation with the right to keep and bare arms is an apples and oranges comparison.   As far s your use of horses as comparrison goes, as DaveS already pointed out, laws regarding how/when/where/by whom people could travel by horseback/horse-drawn wagond, etc. have existed even long before the motor vehicle was invented; some examples are...   In Omega, New Mexico, every woman must "be found to be wearing a corset" when riding a horse in public. A physician is required to inspect each female on horseback. The doctor must ascertain whether or not the woman is, in fact, complying with this law!   In Hartsville, Illinois, you can be arrested for riding an ugly horse.   In Pattonsburg, Missouri, according to the Revised Ordinances, 1884: "No person shall hallo, shout, bawl, scream, use profane language, dance, sing, whoop, quarrel, or make any unusual noise or sound in such manner as to disturb a horse."   A Wyoming community passed this one: "No female shall ride a horse while attired in a bathing suit within the boundaries of Riverton, unless she be escorted by at least two officers of the law or unless she be armed with a club." And continues with this amendment to the original: "The provisions of this statue shall not apply to females weighing less than ninety pounds nor exceeding two hundred pounds."   A misworded ordinance in Wolf Point, Montana: "No horse shall be allowed in public without its owner wearing a halter."    A Fort Collins, Colorado Municipal Code: "It is unlawful for any male rider, within the limits of this community, to wink at any female rider with whom he is acquainted."   West Union, Ohio: "No male person shall make remarks to or concerning, or cough, or whistle at, or do any other act to attract the attention of any woman riding a horse."    Abilene, Kansas, City Ordinance 349 declares: "Any person who shall in the city of Abilene shoot at a horse with any concealed or unconcealed bean snapper or like article, shall upon conviction, be fined."   1899 vintage law from Waverly, Kentucky: "Any person who shall ride a horse in a public place while wearing any device or thing attached to the head, hair, headgear or hat, which device or thing is capable of lacerating the flesh of any other person with whom it may come in contact and which is not sufficiently guarded against the possibility of so doing, shall be adjudged a disorderly person."   A 1907 Cumberland County, Tennessee statute reads: "Speed while on horseback upon county roads will be limited to three miles an hour unless the rider sees a bailiff who does not appear to have had a drink in thirty days, then the horseman will be permitted to make what he can."    Figure out this 1913 Massachusetts law: "Whosoever rides a horse on any public way-laid out under authority or law recklessly or while under the influence of liquor shall be punished; thereby imposing upon the horseman the duty of finding out at his peril whether certain roads had been laid out recklessly or while under the influence of liquor before riding over them."    Male horse buffs in Basalt, Nevada, are prohibited from eating onions between the hours of 7 a.m. and 7 p.m. while out riding.   Law specifies only men! Ice cream lovers beware in Cotton Valley, Louisiana. Citizens aren't allowed to eat an ice cream cone while on horseback in public places.    An antiquated city ordinance in Quartzite, Arizona, prohibits anyone from playing cards with a pregnant woman, a child, or an Indian, "lest they acquire a taste for gambling!"   In McAlester, Oklahoma, it's taboo for a woman over 235 pounds and attired in shorts to be seen on a horse in any public place.    It's illegal in Marion, South Carolina, to tickle a female under her chin with a feather duster to get her attention while she's riding a horse!    It's a violation of the law for a married man to ride on Sunday in Wakefield, Rhode Island. Married women aren't mentioned, so it must be okay for them.    A newly married man in Kearney, Nebraska, can't ride alone. The law states that he "can't ride without his spouse along at any time, unless he's been married for more than twelve months."   It is strictly against the law in Bicknell, Indiana, for a man to leave his new bride alone and go riding with his pals on his wedding day. The penalty is a week in jail.    In Bismark, North Dakota, every home within the limits of Bismark must have a hitching post in the front yard.    Budds Creek, Maryland, has an antique law which prohibits horses from sleeping in a bathtub, unless the rider is also sleeping with the horse.    In Headland, Alabama: "Any man on horseback shall not tempt another man's wife. An unmarried horseman should not stop overnight when the woman is alone."    Bluff, Utah's legislation regarding the Sabbath: Women who happen to be single, widowed or divorced are banned from riding to church on Sunday. Unattached females who take part in such outlandish activities can be arrested and put in jail.    Citizens are prohibited from buying, selling or trading horses "after the sun goes down" in Wellsboro, Pennsylvania, without first getting permission from the sheriff.    In Schurz, Nevada, they have an old law which prohibits the trading of a horse after dark.    In Pee Wee, West Virginia, people are prohibited from swapping horses in the town square at noon!    A unique law in Pine Ridge, South Dakota where horses are banned from neighing between midnight and 6 a.m. near a "residence inhabited by human beings."    And in Pocataligo, Georgia, horses aren't allowed to be heard neighing after 10 p.m.   Paradise, California, retains a most unusual law that says it is illegal to let a horse sleep in a bakery within the limits of the community. What about goats, cows, etc.?? Only horses are mentioned.   In Sutherland, Iowa, a law governs how horses may be seen when on the streets during evening hours. The animal must always have a light attached to its tail and a horn of some sort on its head.   No rodeos in this town! No man is allowed to ride his horse "in a violent manner" if he happens to be in Boone, North Carolina.   Female riders in Clearbrook, Minnesota, be aware of this one governing the heel length of a horsewoman's shoes. Any such woman can wear heels measuring no more than 1-1/2 inches in length.    A loony clothing ordinance in Upperville, Virginia, bans a married woman from riding a horse down a street while wearing "body hugging clothing." A $2 fine can be imposed on any female rider who wears "clothing that clings to her body."   An attorney can be barred from practicing law in Corvallis, Oregon, should he refuse to accept a horse in lieu of his legal fees.    Trying to find a wife? Watch out in Tranquility, New Jersey that you don't violate this law. The law states that a person can't distribute handbills while on horseback as a means of advertising for a wife.   It is against the law in California for horses to mate in public within five hundred yards of any church, school or tavern! The penalty can be a $500 fine and six months in jail. This law isn't clear as to whether the horse or the owner is fined and jailed.    McAllen, Texas, has outlawed citizens from taking pictures of horses on the Sabbath. Any person who "disturbs" or "otherwise antagonizes a horse" in this manner will be subject to a fine of at least $1.50 and can be jailed for as much as "three full days and nights."   In Burdoville, Vermont, it states that "no horses are allowed to roam loose between March 1 and October 20!    In case you have an accident in Hortonville, New York, here's their antique law: "The rider of any horse involved in an accident resulting in death shall immediately dismount and give his name and address to the person killed.    Watch out in Rhinelander, Wisconsin if you are riding a horse while intoxicated! An old ordinance takes care of the problem. Such a horseman, per the law, must be given a "large dose of castor oil." Who doles out the penalty? The horseman's wife! Refusal to take the castor oil results in a fine!   In comparison to the above, I'd say our current laws regarding when/where/how/by whom motor vehicles can be operated on public roadways are pretty ligical and unobtrusive (not to mention, pretty necessary for the good of society at large)...maybe I'm wrong but I also doubt that our ancestors who lived when horses were the primary means of transportation and who had to live under some of these laws ever argued that these laws were an unconstitutional infringement on their right to travel.   And if you are referring to DUI checkpoints, no one is being stopped illegally.  The supreme court has said, and I agree, that they are constitutional if done under the guidelines they set forth. In any case, I would suggest that for anyone who is upset that we have DUI checkpoints; their anger and frustration should be directed, not at the checkpoints, but rather, at their friends, family, acquaintances who chose to drive under the infulance. We have DUI checkpoints for one simple reason; the irresponsibility of those who chose to get behind the wheel of a car and drive while drunk. DUI checkpoints are a respons to that irresponsibility.  

Build a 90 grain .223 rifle. No recoil, and is good way past 600. You'll love the 6BR, BTW

I have chickens that will be laying eggs in a few days, trade?

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I am certainly no expert -- I usually stay out of any "political" or military debates -- political, because I don't have much use for ANY career politician, of any party, and military, because I HOPE someone knows more than I do about military deployment/capabilities/etc.   But ... it seems to me that, no matter what we or anyone else in the world might do, very little of anything positive can come out of a military action in the Middle East.  Those folks have been killing each other over there for hundreds, if not thousands, of years.  Don't know what anyone can do to stop or even curtail it.   Personal thoughts are, if they are intent on killing each other, they can go ahead.   But then, what do I know? Always heard that the enemy of my enemy was my friend.  Don't know how this applies when BOTH parties seem to be our enemies.  Also, always heard "better the devil you know than the one you don't know."  Again, personal thoughts are, better to not have any dealings with ANY devils.   'Course, I'm just an old ignorant hillbilly.

I liked it.. Then  again ..I  really like Gerald Butler anyway.I like Morgan Freeman for his voice. I think both are good actors. I think people over analyze movies way to much.. Take it for what it is.. a movie and nothing more..  Very unrealistic but still very good action.   Also watched Oblivion last week. .That  movie confused me for a few minutes. Not a big fan of Tom Cruise .But it was a decent movie.

It's was caused by our 26 letter alphabet...   NAFTA, GATT, WTO, OSHA, OWCP, IRS, CFR, AFGE, UAW and G.R.E.E.D   Next thing you know, people are going to walk out on burger flipping jobs demanding $15.50 / hour and their own parking spaces and stock options?

I buy a lot of 9mm and .223/5.56 from them, I used to pay a little less than I do now. I think now it runs in .29 to .35 cents a round range. It would be much cheaper if I re-loaded. As for right now I only unload.

Just out of curiosity, I wonder how many crimes involving firearms have been committed by individuals sitting around in public sipping coffee with their firearms resting on a table or the ground for everyone to see.  My guess would be that it has probably never happened.  Upon witnessing such an incident, I can't understand someone's mindset (outside of being an anti-gun busybody) where they freak out "Oh my God! He has a gun!", and call the police.

Personally I don't how how it could be anything but stupid. Accidental or on purpose. Don't know where all of your guns are ? Stupid, not careless, stupid. Misplacing a firearm is just that IMO. On purpose? We don't need this type of Leonard style bullcrap. Stupid. Be a responsible gun owner. Don't poke the bear just because you believe the 2nd amendment says you can.

Oh, i'm certain this was an accident. It's just insane to me that anyone is that careless with their firearms. And carelessness is how this happened.   I can absolutely say that will never happen to me, as long as I am of sound mind.   If sitting on the commode without TP could result in unwanted injury or death then I imagine I'd get into that habit as well. Otherwise the comparison is as silly as her apparent attitude regarding firearm safety.

Got it.

We have 8 dogs, 7 cats and 11 chickens, yall need to catch up. I will offer to take any that have to go to the pound.