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It is a sad state that our society finds it more acceptable for someone to behave in an unsafe manner than a person who tells them to stop behaving in an unsafe manner. Folks wonder why there are so many people who act with zero regard for others. The reason is no one has ever told them they are wrong. Good people have no backbone nowadays, and the few that do are chastised for being hotheads; as if they are the problem. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

  I'm in agreement with TMF's post and likely would have done the same thing as the OP.  Call me a hot-head if you want, but society has gotten to where it is because good people have been told not to turn the other cheek, but to cower in fear of society's turds, savages and primates.

A small suggestion: At the beginning of the engagement with the young menace, turn calmly to your spouse and say in a calm, firm. loud voice: "Honey, bring a Police Officer over here." That sets a clock ticking in the bully's mind that whatever he plans on doing will be shortly observed by the law, as well as by all the law abiding folks around you, and warns those around you that an incident is forming. It also gets your spouse out of the immediate vicinity. On your part, no shouting, no profanity, no verbal or physical violence. I personally wouldn't spend a lot of time restating what you previously said or get down to cases. "Anything I have to say to you can wait until the police officer arrives" is probably enough. The bully will realize that all those around the two of you are now witnesses to his next actions. If he has any sense, his physical bulk over you has been disarmed. If he has no sense, there will be plenty of witnesses that he was the aggressor, and probably one or two assistants if he needs to be restrained. When the Police Officer arrives, be the calm adult, stick to the facts, address the Police Officer as "Officer" and things will pretty much go your way. If the bully gets loud and physical, you win. If the bully pleads his case, the facts are on your side and you win.   I have applied this technique in a couple of other similar cases. On a shopping trip to a big box store, my wife let me out of the Cherokee in front of the store, as my 80 year old father was with us and I was getting his walker out of the tailgate. A Nazi-helmeted biker, roaring and racing through the parking lot, felt that he was cut off by my wife's maneuver, revved his engine loud in disapproval, earned a highly disapproving look from me, pulled up in front of the car and prepared to dismount his hog to exchange a few menacing words. There was a limit to what I could do as I was disadvantaged by the presence of my family and considerations for their safety. Though I was concealed carrying, there was no need to touch the pistol. All I said was, "You are about that far (thumb and forefinger pinch gesture) from having Law Enforcement called on you." Full leathered, mustachioed fat bellied biker dude with an attitude versus a law abiding citizen with his wife and aging father in a walker? It's a non-starter for him in the eyes of the Law. He had already lost. He cursed, gestured, and resumed his irresponsible ride.   By the way, while out and around with my wife and an incident begins to develop, I will tell her "Keep Walking" which is Code for "get away from here quickly, call the police immediately, and report everything that's happening."

I understand all the above viewpoints.  I truly do.  I also have come to realize that we are at this point in our cultural devolution because backbone is being bred out of us.  If you're a kid and a bully kicks you around any retaliation gets you kicked out of school, put in the legal system and on psych meds.   People no longer want to be involved in standing up for anyone - including themselves or family.  It's just not worth the hassle.  Give this one more generation, and we're unable to stand against, well, anything.   No, I don't want to be led off in cuffs to let a disinterested judge sort things out.  I don't have anger issues or go around looking for trouble.  But we need to question what living in a world where we're scared to interact with someone when there's something wrong for fear we'll "get in trouble."   Don't get me started on how some LE agencies and courts handle situations like the OP's story.

Wowser, that really delivered IMO!   That first scene at the killing trough was as freaking chilling as anything I've ever seen on the whole series!   - OS

I have been using the internet since 1992.  I had email before most people knew it existed, or could access it.  (Remember that, back when it was called "e-mail"?)  Before the World Wide Web even existed (I think).     From the beginning, I started reading one of the first gun forums, rec.guns, on Usenet.  I posted occasionally, but not all that much.  Then came, AR15.com, which has become such a behemoth that I rarely check it anymore.   Probably the most I have ever posted on any other gun forum was on 65grendel.com.  But adding up all the posts I have ever made on any and all internet forums in the last 22 years, they would not add up to anywhere near the amount of bandwidth I have used on tngunowners.com.   So, congratulations to TGO for being more worthwhile to me than any other internet resource and thanks to TGO for the same thing.   Sincerely,   Will

Direct sunlight will kill it. Kinda like Nancy Pelosi. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

We all know better but I got complacent and broke a bunch of my own rules on this one.  For the past 10 years my EDC has been a Glock or a 642, both of which are going to function flawlessly 99.999% of the time.  Fire it, carry it around, throw it in the dirt, carry it around, clean it bi annually and it should be good to go, no worries.  I bought a Taurus TCP a few months back from a close friend.  (Buying a Taurus, first rule broken, which I don't regret.)  I've been carrying this gun around for say 4 or 5 months and honestly have not had a chance to shoot it.  (Not shooting a gun before carrying, second broken rule.)  Since I have not fired the gun I haven't cleaned it at all.  (Third rule broken)  The gun has spent most of the summer bouncing around in my work truck which is a very dusty, and dirty environment.    So finally last weekend I fired the gun and found it to be a complete jam-o-matic.  So I took it home gave it a through cleaning and polished the slide and the feed ramp.  Took it out yesterday and she ran like butter!  We all know that pocket guns are finicky but I have to forget the Glock mentality and make it a point to clean this gun at least once a month for now on.  The gun is actually a pleasure to shoot, it has a wonderful trigger and I was hitting cans every shot at 10 yards, not bad for a pocket gun at all.  I believe that there is no perfect carry gun, each one has its pros and cons but I'm very happy with this one.  Just have to make sure that it stays clean.   So people, please, if you haven't fired or cleaned your carry piece lately, take the time to do so.  It may save your life.  

  Some would opine that high post counts on internet forums are a substitute for a real life. I wouldn't know, of course.   - OS

You need to ask yourself...do you really need the Walmart website this bad?  :D

Every time I help a new shooter they end up beating me!  I keep all my secrets tight to the vest now!       :rofl:  :yum:  :wave:

  this should be the standard answer when people ask how it is living in TN.   I always laugh when there is the thread about someone from Maryland or Pennsylvania or whereever thinking of moving to TN.  They ask how Murfreesboro is, or we are looking at Brentwood,  or thinking of buying property on Norris Lake or west Knox.   Then the answers come in about how great the place is and how much the new guy and his family would love it.   Why encourage people to come here?   LOL   My standard answer is that this place is awful and I am trying my best to figure a way to move out.

I understand and realize the best course of action would have been to mind my own business but....I'm done with minding my own business.  If you're acting a fool and being stupid and it is affecting me, I'm going to call you out on it.   I firmly believe that stupidity and foolishness is becoming so common place in society because society stands by idly and watches from the side lines.  Is it my place to do so, probably not.  I believe it's all of our place to do so.   Think of this.  You're at he the hockey game.  Fellow spectator is yelling and screaming profanities at every play and person he sees.  You can tell everyone is annoyed to no end.  Security isn't doing anything about it.  So one guy in the crowd stands up and tells this guy to tone it down and keep it civil.  Everyone cheers this guy for doing so because he just did what everyone else was wanting to do but didn't have the guts to do.     If no one stands up to idiots when they are doing something that is detrimental to others around them, then who will?  The cops?  No offense but how reliable are they and where are they when you truly need one.  Society needs to police its own when it's something that can be handled without police intervention.  So many people rely on the cops to save them when all they need to do is start standing up for what they know is right.     Idiots prevail because good men no longer call them stupid.

Carol is a badass

Anyone dead set on coming to my house unannounced better be better armed than me. The first reported case in Tennessee means anyone who comes a knocking is infected in my mind. Not going to take a chance on getting sick just to be nice. No one will be coming in my house. And trust me when I say I would prefer not to litter my lawn with contaminated blood either.

Ive waited for this day for many months!

Another way to look at it...   A gun, a sledge hammer, a knife, a car is a tool and never hurt anyone without an outside force acting upon them. When a careless person operates them with abandon they are deadly weapons that will maim and kill. What's the difference between an errant bullet and an errant driver? One might be 230 grains and the other two tons and more. What's the difference between 230 grains and two tons just missing you in a parking lot as far as your health and welfare go? They are both a deadly force.   If that 230 grain projectile carelessly passes you are you going to yell slow down partner or get out of the way and call the cops. What about the two ton projectile? It's my experience you can't reason, determine intent or change the behavior of either.   Just sayen...

Yep. I would have yelled at the idiot too. When her boy asked me if I called her a bitch, I would have said... No. Why, is she one? I'm not a very big person, but I won't be intimidated by some mindless punk. Turn the tables on them and they'll back off.

I know you want to hear that you would be justified in protecting yourself, and if that were the case you would be. However, when I responded to these types of situations I needed to determine was this mutual combat or an attack. To do that I had to talk with both people involved and the witnesses. What would the witnesses have seen? You throwing the first punch? Your situation is like a rage road incident; two willing participants. Chances are good one or both of you would have been arrested, had you pulled a gun or some other type weapon you almost certainly would have been arrested. You would have then let you attorney make your case to the DA or in court. At a high school football game or a Hockey game Police actions will be swift to remove the drama. There won’t be a lot of standing around and interviewing people unless a weapon is pulled or someone is seriously injured. I would have ignored him and walked away. If he attacked me I would have had to deal with that.   You have a responsibility to take care of your family. Going to jail or spending your family’s money on lawyers is not in the best interest of the people who depend on you.

I saw one like that one time in my backyard. It was crawling across my shoulder. I ran into a tree and was out cold for about 5 minutes...... :stare:

I think letting someone know they're driving too fast is the right thing to do. While they may be one of those types that are always in a hurry, it was in a parking lot with people walking through it. What if you didn't say anything and next thing you know this clown hits a kid walking through. Some people just want trouble, no matter how idiotic it is. I think your actions were spot on, even if the kid made the move, you had an effective plan which might have ended the situation. Life lessons come by for some the hard way, his buddy might have rethought his next move as soon as the big guy was down. Glad it turned out with no violence!

My all time favorite bumper sticker: "Welcome to the South, now go home."

They disrespect the South, make fun of us, call us names......until they need soldiers to fight their wars.

My widget factory is discontinuing all models of widgets except one and discounting the price on the "discontinued" models.    Was it a strategic business decision to reduce overhead due to poor sales volume on the other widgets or was it just a brilliant marketing ploy to sell more total widgets? Will I actually discontinue the other widgets or is is just a fire sale of sorts because I overpriced certain models of the widgets and they did not sell well enough and I need to boost sales?

Guys keep posting these pics. I have not been able to go as much as I would like due to health. The itch is their I just can't set still longer than 30 mins. I hope to get back out in the woods soon. Lets see some pictures with some fur in them!  

  I was afraid she was gonna get snuffed somewhere along the way after saving them, the ole "no good deed goes unpunished" thang.   - OS

Well... interesting.   My wife says the guy at the very, very last scene after the credits is the guy that Rick was holed up with in the house at the very first of the series.  I can't remember what I did yesterday let alone what happened that far back in TWD. 

Charter Arms revolvers are good truck guns, good for one purpose and if it gets stolen, you haven't lost much.

The Smith would be my choice.  You might also check out the 442/642 unless you're wanting the ability to cock the hammer.   I carry a 642 about 90% of the time.  

   You would have hated the woods we were walking in today. Seemed like every 3rd step we'd have to start karate chopping spider webs that we'd walked through. I hate spiders with a passion but it's not bad enough to keep me from getting in a deer stand so I can only imagine how much more they bother you!

I would check the LAN Settings in IE via Internet Options - Connections and make sure a proxy server has not been maliciously defined.   Also check your network adapter settings to make sure DNS is set to automatic for IPv4 (and IPv6 is disabled) and not to specific ip addresses, also set maliciously.   I've seen both methods used to prevent access to specific websites.

  We protect it like a daughter.  Now, where is my shotgun?  I feel that my state has been violated...

Congrats and sorry for the addiction.  ;)

M&P 40, a Mosin and a couple of boxes of ammo vs. an XD? Were you guys still hung over from the bachelor party?

Tell the whiners that the other side of the interstate that brought them here will take them back if they don't like it.

Even if you do not donate spread the word to any other forums or social media you belong to.

Good stuff. With an image of Rollie Free on the cover no less.

Very cool video. It was great to meet her at the Music City Cup. Seems like a great girl and very good shooter.

  Glad you like it. I'm betting it shrunk your groups.

  Not necessarily, the Bundy Ranch incident proved that armed resistence can make the feds back down. No different than an authortarian state government. If there's a real fear of chaos and blood, the elitist will do what they can to preserve their cozy little spoon fed existence even if they have to back down.

I picked up the pistol today.....off to go shoot in in 10 min or so lol

  Yeah man. Just lay back....have a toke, er uh...a drink, that is, and get mellow.

I don't know why anyone would want to move here. The winters are long and rough, the summers are long and sweltering got, and let's not even get started on the humidity. The mosquitoes are the size of birds and the ticks range in size from pinhead to tennis ball. Fire ants and rattle snakes are abundant. Fall and spring don't actually exist. Well, we usually do have that month of constant rain where everything floods just between the snow and those long summer days. So unless you are looking for all of this while being surrounded by gun toting country folk I wouldn't bother.

  What scares me more than anything else is people from the liberal states moving here.   I have met a couple of people from "up north" and they were both talking about how they wanted to change things here to be more like the liberal state they left. They like the cheap cost of living here but hated leaving their liberal, utopian paradise.   Why can't people leave well enough alone.

Ahh, after a while you just lose track. I remember hitting 1,000 didn't realize I'm almost to 5,000.

That's a big part of the problem, there's no longer a stigma attached to being a leech. Have to protect the moocher's "dignity".

I find it humorous that Snopes calls a piece of history "false," (obvious from actually reading it), and sad that you're waving a surrender flag.   Tsk, tsk.   Of COURSE it's not a current news story! It's a current style telling of an important piece of our history. Stand down with your surrender.

Wow, I'm glad momma coon didn't commence to whoopin on you! LOL I was hunting at my sisters old farm in Lebanon several years ago and a steroided up fox squirrel saw me from a few trees over. I've yet to see one that big since that day or before him, he was huge! He started a stare down that I thought was funny. Then he started across the limbs towards me, tree to tree till he was in the one in front of me. Just happened to have branches reaching out to about 10 feet from me (well, branches that would support his big a$$). He came all the way to the end of the one that would hold him and just stared at me. At that point I started wondering exactly what I was gonna do should he pull a straight on diving attack LMAO <--I laugh now, I wasn't then ha ha. I seriously considered pointing my 7 mag at him and dispatching his rear end! He ended up leaving after about 2 minutes that seemed like 20. Crazy son of a gun was letting me know who the alpha squirrel in the woods was!  :rofl:

How many miles are you trying to get our of your pants and/or holster.  Maybe you are the end of life for those items.  Time to spend some money.  Me personally, I like the Crossbreed Supertuck style holster.  I have about 5 now for my varying pistols.

I also frequently carry a P938 IWB.  I've been using a Crossbreed MiniTuck holster without any problems.  I get more wear from the pocket clips of knives than from my pistols.