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I'm still failing to see what the big deal is. Guns are a very small percentage of Academy's revenue. Would you have them just jump up on a soap box and shout it out to the world, potentially alienating a larger percentage of their customer base? They are a business, in the business of making money not political statements and friends. So they covered a few of their wares from the great eye of the media and public until the dust from this shooting settles. So what? I gotta say [and I'll make no friends saying it but it needs saying] The gun crowd are some of the whiniest hypocritical bitches in this country. WaaaWaaa, they pulled some guns and put them under the counter until the potentially bad media coverage has passed. Meanwhile, our rights get trampled and officials get elected with leftist agendas and most of the gun crowd can't be bothered to do a gd thing. All the things that have, are and will happen are happening because WE LET it happen. There's a beautiful thing about capitalism; you don't HAVE to spend money where you don't want to.

Posted by a friend and so true.............I stand behind you in line at the store with a smile on my face...and a gun under my shirt and you are none the wiser, yet you are safer for having me next to you. I won't shoot you. My gun won't pull it's own trigger. It is securely holstered with the trigger covered. It can't just go off. However, rest assured that if a lunatic walks into the grocery store and pulls out a rifle, I will draw my pistol and protect myself and my family and therefore protect you and your family. I may get shot before I can pull the trigger...but, I won't die in a helpless blubbering heap on the floor begging for my life or my child's life. No, if I die it will be in a pile of spent shell casings. I won't be that victim. I choose not to be. As for you, I don't ask you to carry a gun. If you are not comfortable, then please don't. But I would like to keep my right to choose to not be a helpless victim. There is evil in the world and if evil has a gun, I want one too.

Man... I hate banning people over stupid stuff. It's a Friday. Seriously. Disagree. Shop at one place, or another. Talk about your disappointment. Talk about the deal you got because some reseller didn't realize they were behind the counter. Write their management team. Write your congressman. But, all we ask here is that you bring something to the conversation besides self righteousness and expensive blue jeans. We're all on the same side here - even if we do tend to make it awfully difficult sometimes.

If you were to take off your clothes and run in a circle at 186,000 miles per second, you could theoretically F yourself. BUT, since man cannot achieve the speed of light, one can achieve the same result by NOT doing whatever it takes to keep Hillary out of office. Even if that means voting for someone else you despise. That is all. Have a great weekend.

Academy is being racist by keeping the black rifles around, but out of sight.

My biggest gripe is still with CTD. The people running it aren't all gun enthusiast. They willfully gouged because they knew some suckers would freak out and buy from them. That's snake sh!t there. They will never get a dime from me. Everyone is worried about the $200 pair of pants might not have bought a good duty belt lately. I just spent $85 for one. Not arguing or anything. Sometimes quality comes at a price. Sometimes it's up to the buyer. I can't knock anyone on what they do or don't want to buy. Also, Kroger rocks after they flipped off Moms Demand. Academy is a bit pricey. I prefer to dump my money in my favorite local gun shop regardless of their mark up or down. I rather support local and those that treat me like family.

Wow, guy. It IS the internet now. You can come on the Enterprise here and call us red-shirts a retard if you like but calling out Commander William T. Riker ain't gonna win you any humanitarian awards. Chill out. We're all friends here, even when we argue.

We can complain all we want about the name, but to most people, an AR is synonymous with assault rifle and you and I aren't going to change that discussion no matter how many "talks" we have with people. We need to focus on solutions, not a name. For me, a simple solution starts with making a free, optional background check system for individuals. No laws need to change as criminals don't worry about them anyway, but I suspect most here would be open to using a simple pass/fail check system based on very basic information. Devil would be in the details on making sure what constitutes a fail and how to fix it, but easy and free availability would go a long way in my view. Take away the term mandatory and I bet a lot of opposition drops. I believe most responsible gun owners would feel better knowing whomever they are selling to is good to go, but don't want the hassle of driving to an ffl or log that goes along with a mandatory check. This way if someone has an hcp, you don't have to do a check if you are comfortable with it like I am.

DD definitely understands how Negative Brand Association works and the ease at which policies and laws can be enacted once that happens. Their entire product line was taken off display, hidden and locked away, and now anyone wanting to even look at one of their products has to be treated like they're asking to fondle the Jeffrey Dahmer knife collection. Walk into the store and ask for the "special" items and now it's, "Oh, you're that kind of guy. Hmmmm"

I considered Academy "one of us" until they pulled MSRs off their shelves to cater to the anti-gun crowd. Keeping all the other guns on their shelves was a financial decision. Continuing to sell anything that resembles a MSR out of the back room like they are something to be ashamed is also a financial decision. Choosing sides by hiding the scary looking rifles that make the hand-wringing ninnies cry is a political decision and that's what makes them "one of them" in my book. They can't be on both sides of the fence at the same time. There's only 2 sides, right?

I promised myself one of these as soon as I hear they were making them. When we had the TGO get together at Everything Weapons I filled out a purchase request or whatever you call it for one. I was warned by more than one person that most dealers would rather sell them on Gun Broker at a big markup than to honor the purchase request. Well, I'm here to tell you they did me right! I got a call saying his distributor is finally taking orders and I can finally get one, so I rushed down to pay for it. I got there just as he was on the phone placing the order. It took 8 days to come in, but they called me after-hours tonight to say it's finally here. I get to go pick it up tomorrow!!! The only bummer is that I already committed to teaching a buddy who's never shot rifles before about ARs and AKs first thing in the morning. I only recently got him hooked on guns and he has 3 handguns already and realizes a long gun or 2 are much-needed additions to his collection. Needless to say, his wife probably hates me, LOL. After we run through some rifle basics, I'm gonna let him shoot a few then I'm off to pick up my new toy. Bonus! I get to go to the range again to shoot my new toy.

My bestest buddy ever passed away last year. Had a hard time with that but the wife brought this guy home the other day. The shelter called him Moose. SO that's his name. He's about 2 yrs old and 85 pounds of American Bulldog. He's fairly easy to get along with. He sleeps about 18 hours a day. He's a big TGO fan though.

$200 jeans wouldn't make as much sense to those of us carrying and/or married. $200 jeans fit in a manner that tends to be eye candy for the ladies and help the single guys get certain attention. I wish my big ass would fit into mine.... Lincoln's been smacked around enough. He's new and your going to run him off. There isn't one among us that hasn't had bad days where we said and did similar things - cut him a little slack.

I've never claimed in one single post to be intelligent. Never claimed I wasn't a hypocrite or that I was a man of integrity. I whine and bitch all the time too, have you read any of my posts? I just find it laughable that with all the things going on, Academy Sports decision to hide a particular product sets off so many alarms. Next thing you know people will be trying to sell things at over inflated prices and we can get back to some of those wonderful price gouging conversations.

Here we go again, Negotiate Rights Away strikes again... It's a violation of every conservative principal to deny a person a fundamental right without being found beyond all reasonable doubt guilty of a crime by his peers. Here we have a list where you don't know if you're on it, and can't get yourself off of it, even if you're completely innocent. 400,000 Americans are on these lists, even the most restrictive the no-fly list have 25,000+ Americans on it, and it's full of errors. And just in case you think that is a minor issue, here is a news article how a widely known conservative journalist (Weekly Standard) was added to the no fly list and took months to get himself off of the list, how long would it take you or I get off that list if it took him so long? http://www.npr.org/2014/09/28/352290026/how-a-journalist-ended-up-on-a-terror-watch-list

Glad I'm not the only one that heard that Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Sooooo..... you're saying I should buy more guns and stock up on ammo? Okay, cool.

Maybe I'm just too used to online shopping, or trying to find that 'perfect' deal at a dedicated gun shop, but buying a top end AR at a place like Academy would never cross my mind. I've always looked at places like Academy, Walmart, Cabela's, as an option for a quick box of ammo, some cleaning supplies, or a small gun purchase.

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I appreciate your friend's mindset Ron! Below is something I received from John Farnam some time ago...it remains pertinent. Defender's Creed The Defender's Creed John Farnam I accept and understand that human predators exist. Criminal or terrorist, they take advantage of our civilized society to prey upon the weak. They represent evil and must be confronted and defeated. I believe that self-defense is a moral imperative, and that illegitimate force and illegal violence must be met with righteous indignation and superior violence. I will not rely on others for the security of myself, my family and my community. I proudly proclaim that I run with a like-minded pack. I do not amble through life with the mind-numbed herd. I will train with my chosen weapons, maintain them and carry them in a condition of readiness at all times. I will be mentally prepared and physically equipped to effectively respond to an attack or emergency. I will constantly test myself against realistic standards to discover my strengths and weaknesses. I will turn weakness into strength. I will seek to learn new skills and techniques, and then teach what I have learned to other members of the pack. Be it with firearm or blade, empty hand or blunt object, I will hit my enemies hard, fast and true. I will live a quiet and unobtrusive life, but I will develop and retain the capacity for swift and decisive violence. I recognize that I am the modern equivalent of the traditional Minuteman, and that I may be called to service at any time against heavily armed enemies. I will respond effectively. I accept that I am a pariah among some of my countrymen, and a quaint anachronism to others. I will not hold their ignorance against them. I will win, or die trying. I swear this creed before God, my family and my fellow citizens.

Looks like I'm gonna buy me a DD rifle tomorrow:)

I was ordering some magazines are checked out availability of 9mm, .30 carbine and 7.62 Tok and .303 Brit. Had it all at prices $2- $3 cheaper per box than I've been able to find without buying in bulk. Shipping starts at about $15, so you trade tax at $150 and still save buying small quantity. Not sure it makes a difference, but even to my very limited experience, I can tell the difference in the case between the PRVI.303 and Rem UMC .303. The Rem is a better machined piece of brass.

The brown Santa paid me a visit yesterday and now I have my second ar pistol completed . I already have one in 300 blk so this time I went with 50 Beowulf . I will post a pic after work today. I'm pretty excited about it so far. The upper is a radical firearms 10.5" 12.7 x42. The radical firearms website has them for $659.00 with a 8 week lead time. Primary Arms has the same exact upper for 459.00 and had it to me in 2 days. I can't wait to try this out. Does anybody else have a ar pistol in this caliber?

Remember this statement? Obama’s call for a private standing army was made at a 2008 appearance in Colorado Springs. “We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we set,” Obama said at the time. “We’ve got have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.” You may or may not be able to read the whole article at the link so........ Special agents at the IRS equipped with AR-15 military-style rifles? Health and Human Services “Special Office of Inspector General Agents” being trained by the Army’s Special Forces contractors? The Department of Veterans Affairs arming 3,700 employees? The number of non-Defense Department federal officers authorized to make arrests and carry firearms (200,000) now exceeds the number of U.S. Marines (182,000). In its escalating arms and ammo stockpiling, this federal arms race is unlike anything in history. Over the last 20 years, the number of these federal officers with arrest-and-firearm authority has nearly tripled to over 200,000 today, from 74,500 in 1996. What exactly is the Obama administration up to? On Friday, June 17, our organization, American Transparency, is releasing its OpenTheBooks.com oversight report on the militarization of America. The report catalogs federal purchases of guns, ammunition and military-style equipment by seemingly bureaucratic federal agencies. During a nine-year period through 2014, we found, 67 agencies unaffiliated with the Department of Defense spent $1.48 billion on guns and ammo. Of that total, $335.1 million was spent by agencies traditionally viewed as regulatory or administrative, such as the Smithsonian Institution and the U.S. Mint. Some examples of spending from 2005 through 2014 raise the question: Who are they preparing to battle? • The Internal Revenue Service, which has 2,316 special agents, spent nearly $11 million on guns, ammunition and military-style equipment. That’s nearly $5,000 in gear for each agent. • The Department of Veterans Affairs, which has 3,700 law-enforcement officers guarding and securing VA medical centers, spent $11.66 million. It spent more than $200,000 on night-vision equipment, $2.3 million for body armor, more than $2 million on guns, and $3.6 million for ammunition. The VA employed no officers with firearm authorization as recently as 1995. • The Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service spent $4.77 million purchasing shotguns, .308 caliber rifles, night-vision goggles, propane cannons, liquid explosives, pyro supplies, buckshot, LP gas cannons, drones, remote-control helicopters, thermal cameras, military waterproof thermal infrared scopes and more. • The Environmental Protection Agency spent $3.1 million on guns, ammunition and military-style equipment. The EPA has put nearly $800 million since 2005 into its “Criminal Enforcement Division.” • The Food and Drug Administration employs 183 heavily armed “special agents.” The University of California, Berkeley acquired 14 5.56mm assault rifles and Yale University police accepted 20 5.56mm assault rifles from the Defense Department. Texas Southern University and Saddleback College police even acquired Mine Resistant Vehicles (MRVs). Other paper-pushing federal agencies with firearm-and-arrest authority that have expanded their arsenals since 2006 include the Small Business Administration, Social Security Administration, National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, Education Department, Energy Department, Bureau of Engraving and Printing, National Institute of Standards and Technology and many others. People from both ends of the political spectrum have expressed alarm at this trend. Conservatives argue that it is hypocritical, unconstitutional and costly for political leaders to undermine the Second Amendment while simultaneously equipping nonmilitary agencies with heavy weapons, hollow-point bullets and military-style equipment. Progressives like Sen. Bernie Sanders have raised civil liberties concerns about the militarization of local police with vehicles built for war and other heavy weaponry. Meanwhile, federal authorities are silent on the growing arsenal at federal agencies. In fact, we asked the IRS for an asset accounting of their gun locker—their guns and ammunition asset inventory by location. Their response? “We don’t have one [an inventory], but could create one for you, if important.” Our data shows that the federal government has become a gun show that never adjourns. Taxpayers need to tell Washington that police powers belong primarily to cities and states, not the feds. Dr. Coburn is a physician and former U.S. senator from Oklahoma. He is the honorary chairman, and Mr. Andrzejewski is the founder and CEO, of OpenTheBooks.com, a repository of public-spending records. http://www.wsj.com/articles/why-does-the-irs-need-guns-1466117176

I'm just dying to know his thoughts on Glocks, .40cal, and 10mm...

Thorough cleaning / inspection of firing pin channel?

Academy's $17.99 jeans are quite excellent. Fit me way better than Levi's and seem to be as durable.

Yep, good time for an update. The zucchini is going gangbusters. The tomatoes will be too in another week or so. Everything else is fine except for the okra. I've no idea what the deal is, but out of 10-12 seedlings, I think 1 is still alive. None of the rest grew at all.

That was a quick $150 to lose.

That was a weak exit to be sure. Not gonna miss you. Sent from my SPH-L710T using Tapatalk

I agree, but we as gun owners who do know also shouldn't say emphatically that it isn't true, because in some cases it is.

Caster certainly doesn't need me to speak to his intellectual ability, but there's no place for calling another member of this forum retarded. Check your rhetoric. The ice is getting really thin underneath you.

I'm going to buy me some DD stuff. I like their spirit.

I hope so!

And July 8th!

Well now. THAT's a bigger slap than I can give them. Never bought my DD stuff from them anyway.

Wow…. The libs have to be having a good laugh about this; watching the gun folks turn on each other and they didn’t have to do anything. Between this and the election we have to appear pretty divided. Disgusting.

Daniel Defense Terminates Relationship with Academy Sports http://soldiersystems.net/2016/06/16/daniel-defense-terminates-relationship-with-academy-sports/

I can recommend the Ultimak Forward Optic Mount as I have one on my tacticool M1 Carbine. Easy to install and stays solid. I've had this one for years and been very happy with it. I call this my Zombie Gun.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/want-buy-assault-rifle-florida-no-problem-073038767.html In Florida, buying one is no problem as long as you're 18, a legal resident of the United States, aren't a felon or a domestic abuser and have no documented mental health or substance abuse issues. (Pretty easy for a citizen in good standing to pass, and why shouldn't it be?) are the state's basic rules: — All firearm purchases from federally licensed dealers require a background check, regardless of whether the buyer has a concealed weapons permit. — There is no waiting period to buy a rifle. There is a three-day waiting period to buy a handgun, and handgun buyers must be 21 or older. — People charged with or convicted of a felony can't buy guns. Neither can people who have been convicted of two or more DUIs, have been involuntarily committed to a mental health hospital or have a restraining order against them. (Acceptable application of common sense) Whether Florida gets its gun laws right depends on the perspective. Brian Malte, the national policy director for the Brady Campaign, said getting a gun is far too easy in Florida and private sales don't require a background check. (Too easy Mr. Malted? Why do you propose to make it harder for citizens in good standing to purchase firearms and what steps would you put in place?) (Be careful about the lawful and private disposition of lawfully obtained private property, looter.) Of course, some of the disqualifiers, like mental health and substance abuse, would have to be self-reported if there's no record of the problem. Bailey said people can't be denied a gun just because other people think they're mentally ill. "Not in a free society," he said. "There has to be some sort of determination that that person is mentally incompetent." (Perhaps a dive into the fragile state of mental health care should be the focus, not the tools used to cause physical harm.) "People use AR-15s to hunt deer, to hunt hogs, to hunt all kinds of game," he said. "Think of the over 1 million people that have them and have never misused them, and they want to do away with certain aspects of the gun permitting or buying weapons because of one person's lawlessness." (Couldn't have said it better)

Good gawd, Spartacus. Academy, Wal-Mart, Dick's, Gander, CTD etc are businesses -- you know, those entities who have to make a buck to continue to exist. Especially with the first three, firearms are far from their primary revenue sources. Indeed, Wally and Dick's run profitable stores with no firearms sales at all, CTD used to do the same, and I'm sure Gander and Academy could do likewise. These places can run their affairs any way they like subject to the profit prognostications of their owners and/or the ROI for their stockholders. If CTD wants to gouge prices during a panic, or if Dick's, Wally, and Academy want to hide or discontinue their scary black rifles, fine. Consumerism will validate or refute those decisions. But it's unrealistic to ascribe some 2A responsibility on their part, they run their affairs via spreadsheet, and I run mine much the same in microcosm. Just like my groceries or anything else, I'll generally buy most of what I want firearms related at the best overall value I can find. If those purchases happen to coincide with a shared ethos between me and the vendor, so much the better, but I don't absolutely require it let go of a buck. Point is, above all I believe in free trade and competition -- you and I are free to patronize them or not -- bottom line for me is that the more places that sell firearms and ammo under any circumstances at all, the better for all of us, and at least indirectly, in support of 2A also. - OS

I will have no problem with them if they keep selling ammo and take centerfire repeaters off their website and shelves for a couple of weeks. We are their only customer demographic and it looks like they are trying to stay out of controversy until the dust settles. Can't blame them for that.

It will cause me to not shop there again.

100% on point. We've went full retard with our rights in this country. Now it's up to us to prove to law enforcement up front that we are not committing a crime we haven't been charged with? I guess they should be able to disarm us as well, and we can get the gun back later as long as we show up to court with a lawyer, and copy of the receipt for the gun.

Kasich = Hillary...no thanks!

I guess I'm just confused. Why would you think a person that did so poorly would be able to beat Clinton? I mean, that kinda smacks math in the face Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

The wife was going to order one of these for me for Father's day.... she forgot. Went on the website and placed a 'reservation', if they get enough additional orders, they'll go back to press (familiar w/ this issue from my days in the print-biz - you need a minimum number of copies to make a print run economically feasible). Says they are 1 order away from going back to press. So if you didn't get an order in on-time, saddle up to the website, you still have a chance! (but you probably won't get them in-time for father's day) - K

Well as long as it doesn't say "Made in China" I'm good.