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I don't know if DHS is buying no-hesitation targets, and frankly, neither do you. And even if they are, that is not evidence that a government takeover is in the works. The use of no-hestation targets is not new in law enforcement, but has been going on for decades. Yet somehow it's suddenly sinister because Obama is in the White House and Alex Jone suggests that is all the proof we need. Perhaps this will be a shock to some people, but it's not only young black men and people of Middle Eastern descent who shoot and kill cops. What I am saying here is that this is the typical attempt to stir up controversy where none appears to exist. My problem is not with the information, but how the Alex Jones crew frames it, which is facts without actual context and the hint that the Obama/DHS/FEMA cabal is preparing to commit revolution and genocide against American citizens. This gives people who the opportunity to fill in the blanks themselves with whatever interpretation fits their own individual views, hence why I said if you are only looking for one possibility, you are sure to find it. Let's think through this a little more. There seems to be a suggestion that use of these target will render law enforcement officials robots who will kill people without hesitation or regret. That is simply absurd. Further, at the same time while people are jumping up and down about arming teachers, school administrators, and placing armed officers in schools to shoot potentially murderous young people, people are lamenting and gnashing their teeth about targets with a kid holding a gun. I strongly - no very strongly - believe that this wouldn't have even been a story if people on the targets had been black, Middle Eastern, or Hispanic/Latino. If there is a story here, the Alex Jones crew certainly didn't provide information to justify it. Rather, they provide just enough information to give people who are predisposed to think the absolute worst of their government the opportunity to make a leap of logic that seems to make sense without any real evidence to back it up. The people who buy into the right wing propaganda and conspiracy machine without even a slight bit of hesitation or reflexive thought are sheep just like the kool-aid drinkers and Obama zombies on the left. Being a sheep doesn't apply to any specific political ideology. As for me, I will file this little tidbit of information in my mind for future days should some solid set of circumstances come to light that puts this target story into some sort of legitimate context that justifies heightened concern. I am quite aware of the concept of incrementalism, but a set of random events does not serve as proof a conspiracy is afoot. Instead of putting forward rational arguments and evidence-based policy proposals, too many on the right are wasting time on creating elaborate fairly tales. While people are in panic mode chasing down non-existent conspiracies, they are taking their eye off the ball. Besides wasting energy and resources, these stories feed into the left's narrative of the right as irrational and dangerous, which discredits Obama's opponents in general. This is exactly why the left has been able to maintain power. I am not a "comrade." I am a free-thinking individual who doesn't blindly trust media of any sort, especially sources run by ideologues like Alex Jones, Glenn Beck, Piers Morgan, or Keith Olbermann. I guess there is something morally superior about being shot and killed by pregnant women and young people with guns. Perhaps these targets are less troubling and will make people feel better:

You guys aren't gonna believe this, but TN Code Annotated:   39-17-105.  Charge for use of public toilet facility prohibited.   (a) It is an offense for a person maintaining toilet facilities available to the public to impose a charge for the use of the facility.  Each toilet facility maintained in violation of this section constitutes a separate offense. (c) An offense under this section is a Class C misdemeanor.

  First, you seem to be ambivalent on one point -- do you like the guy or not?   - OS

Man I've been holding back flames on this for weeks. We see your thread, it's overpriced, stop bumping it!!!! I saw a DPMS 5.56 with FDE magpul furniture today at the gun show for a bargain $2500. I thought, "that was soo 3 weeks ago"

It's ridiculous how busy this man is. He never gets a break. As such, he may miss this post. I can tell you that he USUALLY does not ship. Not that he can't but it's hard for him to tie himself up shipping small orders when there are large volume consumers out for his time too. I should say too, David is a super guy. He busts his butt to get us what we need. I know there are some people who don't, can't or won't cut the guy any slack and they bust his balls on a regular basis. To those people I say screw you!

We have this young lady that works for us whose husband is deployed in Afghanistan. A couple of months before Christmas she let us know that she was putting together a couple of boxes of supplies for her husbands unit for Christmas. She gave everybody a list of common items they needed and asked us to donate if we were able. It was everyday stuff we take for granted like: batteries, magazines, energy bars, jerky, playing cards, juice boxes, gum, games etc... Most of the employees donated. My father, brother and I went to Costco and got a bunch of stuff. She was really surprised at the amount of items everybody in company collected. It took a few more boxes than she expected but she got everything shipped over to husbands unit. Her husband let us know how appreciative the unit was after they received the boxes. Well today at our company lunch she presented us with this flag and certificate her husbands unit sent us. I am going to get it framed and hang it in the office.

My 2010 Toyota Corolla  :rock:

No, you broke it.  Because I am a nice guy, I'll buy it from you for $50 and see if I can fix it somehow.  :pleased:

Common decency to anyone its if you have a restroom and someone is in need, you let then use it. Period. To demand a purchase is petty in my mind and in my opinion. You definitely don't GAIN customers on that fashion.

    If I hit a truck stop or a rest area, sure.   If I have to stop at a restaurant, yeah, I try to buy something. 

she broke the code.  If you use a restroom you ought to buy something, anything.   I wonder how many people this has happened to and if anyone pays the bill.

This instructions will allow LEO, Military and FF in some instances to get pmags right now. Try this: Thank you for contacting us. During this period of high demand, we at Magpul are taking steps to ensure that Military and Law Enforcement professionals that use our products in their job-related activities can still obtain the magazines they need for on-duty use. To meet this need, we have set up a process for Mil/LE purchase of up to ten PMAGs per account from our website. In order to participate in this program, go to: http://store.magpul.com/member_register. - Create your login account and click the “Register” button to submit. - Once you receive a Membership Confirmation e-mail from orders@magpul.com forward it (FW: ) along with your name and unit or agency affiliation to bhickman@magpul.com. Please respond using an official .mil or agency e-mail address, or provide other official identification to verify Military or LE status. - If you already have a login account at Magpul.com, please just send an e-mail to Bhickman@magpul from a govt/ military email service. Once we verify your status (this process can take up to a few days) you will be added to an authorized MIL/LE group, which will allow a one-time purchase from a limited access section of our website. You will then receive a notification e-mail stating that you have been added to this group, and instructions for placing your order will be included.

Maybe it's important as a matter of technicality ... But as a matter of principle these idiots stole property and should be held responsible for their actions.

"EVERY SURPLUS RIFLE WITH BOLT ACTION IS CHEAP SOME TIME IN HISTORY. MOSIN NAGANT RIFLE IS MOST NUMEROUS OF ALL INFANTRY RIFLE. IT IS RIFLE THAT WINS OCTOBER REVOLUTION. IT IS RIFLE THAT CARRIES INFANTRY OF ALLIED FORCES IN EUROPE THROUGH GREAT PATRIOTIC WAR. MOSIN NAGANT RIFLE SERVES FOR MORE THAN CENTURY, OLD STOLEN RUSSIAN RECEIVER IS STILL USE BY SNIPER OF FINNISH ARMY. YOU CAN BE HAPPY WITH 40,000 ROUBLE RIFLE WITH NO HISTORY AND PLASTIC STOCK WHO KILLS PAPER TARGET AND DEER WITH NO WEAPON OR FIGHTING HEART. I CAN BE HAPPY WITH 2,000 ROUBLE RIFLE THAT IS ARTIFACT OF MILITARY HISTORY AND KILLS TSARIST AND NAZI ALIKE. JOY OF HAVING MOSIN NAGANT RIFLE IS JOY THAT MONEY CANNOT AFFORD. " Ivan Chesnokov.

That picture says all I need to know about shooting someone else's reloads.

Has anyone here read the book: " Roots of Obamas Rage"? How about the movie "Obamas 2016"?  This guy would be on a no fly list if he were not "king nothing" of the puss filled, parasite laden, river of raw sewage called washington dc. I would like to hear from anyone that has read the book about this America hating, communist, community organizing rat vermin from kenya.

Sorry for the confusion folks but I came up with another idea that I think maybe is more in tune with what's going on in the political space right now and represents our desire to see the Second Amendment not infringed upon. We're doing this to continue raising money for TGO's operating expenses which, since December of last year, have gone out the ceiling due to the three upgrades we've had to make to our web servers to keep up with traffic. If you have ordered some of the TGO icon decals you know that those are top quality laminated vinyl meant to survive all-weather conditions. These will be made by the same folks in the same way and will be a great way to show your support of the Second Amendment on your car, truck, toolbox, gun safe, laptop, cat, dog, whatever. Which of these do you prefer the most? Option 'A' - Keep Calm And Carry On ...or... Option 'B' - Shall Not Be Infringed I can see eventually producing both but one of these will get produced first. Specifics would be as follows: Full color print process Laminated, all-weather vinyl Peel n' stick application 4.00 x 6.00 inches @ $4.50 each 2.25 x 3.50 inches @ $3.50 each I will be adding a page to the TGO Store soon. Just wanted to go ahead and get this out there and let you all know about them. I'm working on T-Shirts as well with this on the back and the TGO logo on the front. Those are going to take a little more time, though.

It depends on what the market does and whether or not they are banned in the future. If the market gets back to where it was a few months ago, you'll have paid about double. If they are banned, you'll be glad you paid double.

Try a capfull of Nu Finish car polish in your media. That and a tablespoon of mineral spirits will make it shine in a couple of hours. Also, put a couple of used dryer sheets in the bowl to absorb dust and keep your media cleaner.

And yet we want to cut our military... eh... I don't think so...   This is the unfortunate result of the world becoming reliant on electronics and computerization. A 15-year-old nerd in a basement could cause quite a bit of damage. Imagine a million Chinese or 100,000 Russians doing the same thing... sheesh. We'll see what happens, I guess.

I got to spend several hours with a small county's finest for similar antics.   I just can't suggest it.

Number 2 reminds me of a three stooges short. lmao

Libs have to control everything...

Yeah, I think so too. I call them flaggots. Little Aholes flag everything.

And this is for a reason. We've all needed a restroom in an emergency. If you maintain a "public use" restroom you shouldn't e able to hold someone hostage for using it. I mean how much does it cost the owner...negligible. If you had a buisness on a street with heavy foot traffic and it was disturbing buisness I can see the issue. But it's more appalling that the Sherrif sees not problem just handing out personal info to someone he "knows". You never really "know" anyone's intentions.

This would have to be on a receiver that was made without a stock to begin with. I don't think you can just remove the stock and call it an AOW with a barrel under 18" since it was originally made as a shotgun with a stock. I wanted to do this with mine but the consensus was that chopping the barrel would make it an SBS not an AOW. I would love to be wrong on this and be able to make it an AOW instead of an SBS and save some money even though both ways require an ATF tax stamp. Here's mine: http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?/topic/76696-my-first-gun-project/ There's good info on shorting the gas system and the SBS/AOW discussion. I am glad that I shortened the gas system just to say that I did it and it was a fun project just not for the faint of heart:-) I have read that one way to do this is machine a new front trunnion and trash the old one and attach it to a stock less S12 to create an AOW.

I'm sure there's lots of things growing in the woods that is illegal to sell, especially a few hundred miles north of here, LOL.

Same for me, I'd get one of each.   Also, that would be so danged awesome on a shirt!

does anyone really want to pay those crazy prices on armslist anyway? I'd rather wait and find it at Academy, Walmart or one of the online retailers that is not gouging. 

Both sizes, 4 each.

:up: May ammunition supplies will get back to normal  ,  also. !

  It was a joke, Linky. Ethiopia is a diverse place. It has nasty parts, and parts that ain't.

I am not so sure it is a user. I think their "programming" picks up on keywords and flags automatically. I sent a question about it 2 wks ago and only got a automatically generated "thanks we take all concerns seriously yada yada yada" email and havent heard from them since

  Yep, I'm convinced there are just 10 year olds that sit on Craigslist and flag posts.  I put a dog on there once and had it flagged every time I tried to put it up.  I don't get it.  I wish there was a button on my keyboard that would allow me to punch people in the face over the internet.

I have seen folks looking for things that are from out of state on some of the other boards. I knew David normally carried the certain items in question and was curious if it was possible to ship items to them. More profit for David and in the interest of boosting sales for him, I was curious as to whether he ships to out of state customers or not. David is a good guy to deal with. I am trying to help him and his business out. :)

Very nice setup! That's gotta be one of the nicest 10/22s I've seen.

Joe Biden says you don't need a rifle like that...says to buy a shotgun...buy a shotgun.     I think you've got a nice setup there.  :)

Of course, in true InfoWars fashion, they use creative liberties to make a story.  Unless I missed it, nowhere does it say that DHS is purchasing those targets, just that the same supplier that sells to DHS also sells those targets.  It feeds into this BS narrative that the Obama controlled DHS is preparing to wage war on the American people.  It also proves that when that's the only explanation you are looking for, you are guaranteed to find it.

Obama is playing poker and most of the Republicans don't know it.  The ones who DO know it suck at poker.

In shooting stockpile enough .223, 9mm, and .357/.38, to shoot some kind of centerfire maybe through mid summer, enough .22LR to go past that, maybe.  Don't feel so weird about buying ammo all along now.   Not touching EOTWAWKI stash, so if things don't free up by then, may get back into golf.   - OS

  That will rarely work for most sties because most web servers will use vhosts to serve many sites on a a single IP.  

As part of the shooting community, I feel like it's more my responsibility than the safety officers (if there are any) to watch my six. They are there to keep the range safe, so every second they spend helping a new shooter is a second someone just as inexperienced isn't being supervised properly. I'm not trying to be mean, but beginners should take responsibility for their own education instead of expecting the facility where they shoot to instruct them. There are classes they can pay for, free books at the library, and excellent videos online at reputable sites like NSSF.org and NRA.org. If someone doesn't realize these resources are out there, they should suck it up and ask someone they know is experienced for help. There's no shame in that, in fact, I'd say it shows a lot of dedication and initiative. I've had complete strangers ask me for advice/help at the range and I'm always flattered and eager to help. So, I agree with a previous post. Don't avoid crowded public ranges. Be more involved and civic-minded. We complain all the time about the state of this country when we can often be part of the solution.

They tried to talk me into the PTSD crap also. Its like they want you to claim it. Yeah, no thanks. I have no reason to ptsd

This topic was covered a few months ago. Having PTSD is not disqualifying for possessing a firearm. Receiving VA disability benefits for a mental disorder, and being so messed up that you can't manage your money is the basis for limiting your rights to own a gun. A fiduciary is seldom appointed in VA claims situations, and a psychiatrist makes the determination the vet is so mentally unstable they wouldn't know what to do with their VA check when it arrived. Do you really want those people to have guns? If they want their gun rights restored, stop getting VA benefits. In the old post, many argued it was unfair to mentally ill vets to have their gun rights stripped. While I acknowledged there was a chance an "innocent" vet might be caught up in a bureaucratic mistake, the risk was worth it. I countered that mentally ill people commit the mass shootings, and that was our greatest threat to gun rights. The Sandy Hook shooting happened a few weeks later.

I'm a pretty tin foil-y, but in this case I see the value in those targets in training officers to notice what is in hands and not be lulled into a false sense of security by the person's initial appearance.

This is my dad's Colt Commando that he was issued at the close of WWII. He carried it all through his adult life, and when he got sick and he and Mom moved into an independent living complex, he gave it to me. I'll hand it down to my son one day. I've never shot it, and would like to find some replacement grips. You can see that the right side has a piece missing. Just wanted to show it to you. [url=http://www.flickr.com/photos/zoombah1954/8492884101/][/url] [url=http://www.flickr.com/photos/zoombah1954/8493985350/][/url] [url=http://www.flickr.com/photos/zoombah1954/8492886281/][/url]

  You need to read up on Israeli border security. ;)

Why dont they find something else to do like build a country that their own people would like to stay in and stay out of our business.

Yeah lots of people will make this out to be much more than it is. Of course when we point out there's no story here and certainly nothing worth worrying over, they will be sure to classify us as blind ignorant sheeple or liberal commie sympathizers.

L-E-U-P-O-L-D Lifetime warranty. Made in U.S.A. Good quality.   I buy a lot of used Leupold scopes. A Vari X II 3-9 would likely suit your needs just fine. An m8 4x is my favorite, and I have several of them.