Season 4

[jacob]

Hey thanks for the analysis...

[jgradyc]

Great episode. Rick runs out of ammo in his "mine is bigger than yours" Colt Python... and the Governor proceeds to beat the cr*p out of him. 

 

Memo to Rick: Get a speed loader... or a decent post-Apocalypse handgun.... anything that shoots more than six times. Or hey, carry something in an ankle holster. 

 

My vote is kill off Rick, bring back Carol, Merle, and Hershel.

[Glenn]

There is a LOT of FA weapons in this country. A LOT more than most people would ever guess.
Personally I find full auto absolutely worthless. Even the above average person does NOT have the training to handle one effectively.

^this^ I've never had any training but have shot quite a bit of full auto. If 2 out of 20 hit near the target, I figure I am doing good. I guess if I was facing a mass of people standing close together about 20 yards away......

[Hershmeister]

I found it interesting that the Gov took many a whack to chop ole hershel up, whereas michonne could swing that sword one handed to accomplish a decap move.

[felinesNfreedom]

watching all the gun fights just annoys me. I try not to pay attention to the amount of shots fired/lack of reloading but I can't. Also, use some damn sights and aim! stop hip firing a rifle blindly. You pay people to advise you on things like this.

[dawgdoc]

The botched decapitation was straight out of the comic book, only with a different character.  I think a small part was to show that Michonne is actually skilled in its use (she has a lot more practice, and usually is taking on rotting corpses), and the Governor was so macho that he thinks he can do anything a skinny girl can do.

 

I wonder if the young girls stashed Judith in the prison for safety, and if the two sisters from the Governor's camp will eventually find and adopt them or her.  The lesbian sister did not see her girlfriend get killed, as far as we know (she was hiding behind the tank, and then just disappeared).  So presumably, her and her sister may stick around the prison, as long as they can dodge walkers.

[hipower]

Lesbian sister? I must watch this again...I missed that. But for an excuse, I was trying to multitask at that time.

[gunwhatgun]

Did it not bother anyone else that the tank had a one man crew, yet seemed to move aim and fire all in unison. On that note I don't think one greade down the pipe of that tank would have made such a fire rolling out of the hatch. All of this aside, the deal breaker for me was Darrel of all people taking carl out of that impossible 50 yrd shot on the gov with a rifle. Really??? I mean REALLY!!! I'm even giving them a pass on the fact that nevermind rick took out two guys in the bar from a quick draw with one of them holding a shot gun on him from behind, but, he misses the gov at 30 feet with six tries......REALLY??? It seems that AMC can afford special effects guys or tech advisors but not both.

Edited December 3, 2013 by gunwhatgun

[Alleycat72]

Did it not bother anyone else that the tank had a one man crew, yet seemed to move aim and fire all in unison. On that note I don't think one greade down the pipe of that tank would have made such a fire rolling out of the hatch.

Go to about the 2:00 mark. The tank cooked off just like this one.

 

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=5a5_1364935662

[felinesNfreedom]

Damn, thought I was playing some battlefield 4 for a moment. 

 

Go to about the 2:00 mark. The tank cooked off just like this one.

 

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=5a5_1364935662

^ Damn, thought I was playing some battlefield 4 for a moment. 

[Larkin]

A disproportionate amount seems to have found their way into that one area of GA.

 

- OS

 

I laughed at that OS.

 

Honestly, I enjoyed this episode.  I was a little iffy after the last one, but I liked the action and the fact that confusion ruled the day as it would when chaos rules.

 

The blade through the spine of the Governor should have killed him on the spot, if he comes back at any point in the show other than a Zed, I will turn it off and not watch another episode.

 

Hated to see Hershel go, but good guys die too.  

 

I thought it was interesting how everyone forgot about Rick behind the bus INCLUDING the governor.  Come on!! 

 

I try not to be to critical about the firearm usage and how everyone is capable of shooting one shot head shots including little girls.

 

I think Drunk Medic black guy is the one doing the rat things,by the way.

[charlessummers]

 

I think Drunk Medic black guy is the one doing the rat things,by the way.

I still think it's the creepy little girl...

[Titansfan]

"I think Drunk Medic black guy is the one doing the rat things,by the way."

 

At beginning of the episode, I think Bob was going to vacate due to his drinking problem. 

 

IMHO about the rat placement I have two theories.

 

Carol, first episode, she is the one reporting increase of walkers.  Maybe she had a thrill about clearing walkers from the fences.

 

Lizzie, girl has a few screws loose, very much a loose cannon.

 

[94user]

I still think it's the creepy little girl...

Me too. Wasn't she the one that had names for the Zeds outside the fence ?

[Guest Riciticky]

Boring JMO

[Troutburger]

Agreed if the gov comes back any thing other than a zed. I'm done...

Seemed like the prison situation was salvageable. Other than the swarm of z's that will be drawn to the gun fire.

[Oh Shoot]

I laughed at that OS.
 
Honestly, I enjoyed this episode.  I was a little iffy after the last one, but I liked the action and the fact that confusion ruled the day as it would when chaos rules.

Yeah, well, whole new ball game now, no guv, no prison, and I was surely tired of both.
 
 

The blade through the spine of the Governor should have killed him on the spot ...

 

Well, it didn't go through his spine, just beside it.  But even so,  a severed spine alone isn't of course necessarily a fatal injury, just paralyzing, the degree of which depending largely on where it's severed.

 

- OS

Edited December 5, 2013 by Oh Shoot

[npgunner]

Yeah, well, whole new ball game now, no guv, no prison, and I was surely tired of both.



Well, it didn't go through his spine, just beside it. But even so, a severed spine alone isn't of course necessarily a fatal injury, just paralyzing, the degree of which depending largely on where it's severed.

- OS

So what you're saying is its possible for the gov' to come back in a wheel chair with Carol's help?!

[Oh Shoot]

So what you're saying is its possible for the gov' to come back in a wheel chair with Carol's help?!

 

Fie! Perish the thought!

 

Admit is was ominous however that they didn't show the actual final pistol shot, only the sound. I was thinking, "don't shoot him in the head, let him be a zombie", but hmmm, why  did they not show the coup de grace?  But again, if he comes back, dunno if wheel chair necessary, I didn't see that spine was necessarily involved at all.

 

Beginning to remind me of the snake oil salesman in Little Big Man, who keeps getting carved up,losing parts, but keeps on ticking.

 

You'd think the producers would have enough feedback by now to let the damn character go, though, but who the frig knows?

 

- OS

[Titansfan]

I re-watched the scene after reading some internet chatter.  We do know that she came out of the cellblock with the little (Lizzie) kids, I stopped and looked to see that Judith was secured into the baby carrier.  As we know, Rick and Carl found the carrier in a bloody mess, but no Judith.  The assumed she was gone by Walkers. 

 

Problem, Judith was secured, a Walker is unable to undo the straps.  The locking mechanism was undone. 

 

 

Before Darryl took out the M-60 tank with a grenade, the main gun fired towards Tyress who was running away.  I stopped the action, Tyress was running and his M-1 carbine was slung over his back.  When I carried the M-16 while in training or in theater, and needed my hands free, I slung my weapon across my back.  Thus, IMHO, Tyress retreated with Judith

[JGunner]

I re-watched the scene after reading some internet chatter.  We do know that she came out of the cellblock with the little (Lizzie) kids, I stopped and looked to see that Judith was secured into the baby carrier.  As we know, Rick and Carl found the carrier in a bloody mess, but no Judith.  The assumed she was gone by Walkers. 

 

Problem, Judith was secured, a Walker is unable to undo the straps.  The locking mechanism was undone. 

 

 

Before Darryl took out the M-60 tank with a grenade, the main gun fired towards Tyress who was running away.  I stopped the action, Tyress was running and his M-1 carbine was slung over his back.  When I carried the M-16 while in training or in theater, and needed my hands free, I slung my weapon across my back.  Thus, IMHO, Tyress retreated with Judith

Aha!  Also,  Tyrese was the last one on camera with the kids ... they were the ones that saved his butt.

[buck1032]

And if you look closely at Tyrese retreating you will notice that it looks like he is cradling something. Judith I presume?

[Dolomite`s Breezy]

See.. I KNEW IT!!!

Baby is not gone..

 

HA!

[buck1032]

The only issue I have with my theory is there is a large disparity of blood in the car seat and what Tyrese had on his arm. My wife pointed out that the one of the girls had red paint on their pants so the car seat may have paint on it.

[tnguy]

There is a LOT of FA weapons in this country. A LOT more than most people would ever guess.
Personally I find full auto absolutely worthless. Even the above average person does NOT have the training to handle one effectively.

 

Especially with all the "Oh noes, we're running out of ammo" every few weeks.