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I used to have an M9 and this is exactly why I got rid of it. I could hardly holster the damn thing without the slide falling off. Then I switched over to a Glock but it melted while in my glovebox one day. I had a 1911 after that but it was only really good for showing off the grill with my buddies. I have since given up on firearms in the hope that technology will one day fill this void. I need the perfect pistol that can satsify every moronic objection made by every gun guru in a gun shop. Until such time I will continue to perfect the bo staff. I suggest you fellas do the same.

I will not buy a gun from a store that posts. Period. They have the right to post--i have the right to move to the next store. One of the other stores in the Tri-Cities was posted with "No Loaded Firearms--CCW's must check guns at the front desk" until recently. Now, they simply state that guns must remain holstered while inside the store. I can live with this....unless it hits the fan.

Chief Justice Roberts Is A Genius Before you look to do harm to Chief Justice Roberts or his family, it’s important that you think carefully about the meaning – the true nature — of his ruling on Obama-care. The Left will shout that they won, that Obama-care was upheld and all the rest. Let them. It will be a short-lived celebration. Here’s what really occurred — payback. Yes, payback for Obama’s numerous, ill-advised and childish insults directed toward SCOTUS. Chief Justice Roberts actually ruled the mandate, relative to the commerce clause, was unconstitutional. That’s how the Democrats got Obama-care going in the first place. This is critical. His ruling means Congress can’t compel American citizens to purchase anything. Ever. The notion is now officially and forever, unconstitutional. As it should be. Next, he stated that, because Congress doesn’t have the ability to mandate, it must, to fund Obama-care, rely on its power to tax. Therefore, the mechanism that funds Obama-care is a tax. This is also critical. Recall back during the initial Obama-care battles, the Democrats called it a penalty, Republicans called it a tax. Democrats consistently soft sold it as a penalty. It went to vote as a penalty. Obama declared endlessly, that it was not a tax, it was a penalty. But when the Democrats argued in front of the Supreme Court, they said ‘hey, a penalty or a tax, either way’. So, Roberts gave them a tax. It is now the official law of the land — beyond word-play and silly shenanigans. Obama-care is funded by tax dollars. Democrats now must defend a tax increase to justify the Obama-care law. Finally, he struck down as unconstitutional, the Obama-care idea that the federal government can bully states into complying by yanking their existing medicaid funding. Liberals, through Obama-care, basically said to the states — ‘comply with Obama-care or we will stop existing funding.’ Roberts ruled that is a no-no. If a state takes the money, fine, the Feds can tell the state how to run a program, but if the state refuses money, the federal government can’t penalize the state by yanking other funding. Therefore, a state can decline to participate in Obama-care without penalty. This is obviously a serious problem. Are we going to have 10, 12, 25 states not participating in “national†health-care? Suddenly, it’s not national, is it? Ultimately, Roberts supported states rights by limiting the federal government’s coercive abilities. He ruled that the government can not force the people to purchase products or services under the commerce clause and he forced liberals to have to come clean and admit that Obama-care is funded by tax increases. Although he didn’t guarantee Romney a win, he certainly did more than his part and should be applauded. And he did this without creating a civil war or having bricks thrown through his windshield. Oh, and he’ll be home in time for dinner. Brilliant.

Ha, he's hosting the Sean Hannity Show today. His new term for "obamacare"....."obamadoesn'tcare". A refreshing voice, it's good to hear him talk. I can only take about 30 mins of Sean before I have to go.

What? 4 1/2 days on this thread and no none has replied "That is none of your beeswax."? I am disappointed.

Write him, her a letter or call and voice your concerns, maybe it will get changed for YOU!!! I wouldn't hold my breath though! Dave Senior Prophet (931)802-2138

...and when they send the bill, how many will get returned with a [more detailed] picture and a few choice words. I will

Don, and Dave did do it primitive style. Everyone else used what they had. I slept on an old army sleeping bag cause I dont have a bedroll. I thought people on here wanted to encourage meets and get togethers, not run down stuff they didnt show up for? Just saying, I was always taught if you can't say nothing nice, then dont say nothing.

I'd have told him he owed the friend $50, or me a refund.

Sensible behavior cannot be legislated. Such behavior must be modeled to children, along with a healthy dose of teaching. The root of the drug problem is the drug culture. You are simply not believable when you are takin perscription drugs, smokin marajuna, or any of this other stuff, while telling your children that it aint ok to do it. Children have eyes, and see that you are a dammed phoney; and, as such, you are unworthy of respect or belief. After they see that you are saying one thing and doing another; they determine that you are a hippocrite and unworthy of listening to (...much less respect...); and they simply go about their way doing what they want to do. No amount of "checks and imposition of silly rules on society" will fix this problem. We have already proven that as a society. We've been fightin the "war on drugs" for several years to no noticeable effect. There is too much money in it; and way too many "cottage inddustries" that feed on the problem. The cough and cold medicine recording stuff is (...in my opinion...) just another imposition on law abiding folks and a "feel good" trick for a gullible, deceived, and guilt ridden society that takes recreational drug use and alcohol abuse way too lightly. I would love to see just how many real drug cookers and "mister big" drug distributors have been jailed from the use of this info. I come from a family of alcoholics; one of which was a prescription drug abuser and drunkard combined. I well understand this side of the problem. I grew up poor. I well understand the need to make a living (...think cookin meth here...). I also understand that life is full of choices; and that, contrary to popular opinion in some quarters; that ...."You are responsible for you."... . Lots of folks dont like the "...you are responsible for you...." thing. There have been several generations that have been conditioned to believe that "....you are not responsible for you...". That "outside forces" and unnamed, faceless "mean people" cause your problem; and that you are simply a helpless waif, tossed about by these horrible outside forces. I say,...baloney...!! ". You are, in fact, responsible for you, and no amount of aplologizing for bad behevior, shifting of blame to others, denial of reality, or any of these other excuses can suspend that immutable law. As our society drifts further and further down the putrid river toward the sewer of hedonism and anarchy put into its flower by doting parents who are, themselves, devoid of self discipline, self control, and ethics; the easier it gets to get what we have. No amount of "shared sacrifice" of society (....giving a pint of blood and being added to a list when ya buy pseudoephedrine cough and cold remedies...), diverson programs run by a specific sect of the "drug abuse cottage industry", rehabilitation programs run by that same "drug abuse cottage industry", law enforcement, or more dollars can fix this problem. It is, at it's heart, a behavioral and belief problem. I'm sure that some opiners here will be horifified by this assessment and its brutally blunt conclusions; but that's ok. Be assured that it is written by a little old man who has seen the drug and alcohol problem first hand. The people involved either died (...several did...) or they were rehabilitated --- the stark "life or death" choice. It simply was not whipped by the people i am kin to and love by "programs". It was overcome by the stark realization that this sort of behavior endangers both the user and others. It is a road that has two forks; death for yourself and / or others, or rehabilitation and life (...sometimes a pretty pitiful one if you have a drug indcued stroke or have the sad occasion to carry the guilt of destroyed relationships or innocents killed or maimed by drug besotted behavior....). I firmly believe that there will always be some fraction of people who will choose to cut their lives short with drugs; and, in the process; either burden or even kill the innocent thru their actions. It has always been so, and will not change. For those who do not choose this path; correctly modelled behavior and teaching are the best way to combat this problem. Correct behavior simply has to be modelled correctly and taught within the family unit. Our current system of "shared societial sacrifice" (....read that:...more money for "diversion", more money for "rehabilitation", more money for "enforcement", signing and givin a pint of blood for OTC peseudoephedring purchase, or anything else ya can think up....) hoisted on us by the political class, the "experts", and others will fix this problem. As long as people ignore the truth of the matter; that is, "...That you are responsible for you."...., and accept the twin mornic notions of "shared societal guilt", and that "increased spending" fixes everyting, this problem will continue to grow. Thats how i see things thru my bespeckeled eyes this evenin. leroy

Close Range Gun-fighting, Randy Harris, Instructor, Suarez International As close to an un-biased review as possible. About Me: I am 44 year old male and have owned and shot handguns since I was 21. I in what most folks consider a nice, safe neighborhood. It mostly is, other than a recent auto break-in, but had my son actually LOCKED his car, based on what was stolen, the kids would not have risked the sound of smashing out a window, it was crime of convenience. We have a pretty effective alarm dog and I do not have an arsenal of weapons. I acquired a permit to legally carry a concealed handgun a little over 4 years ago. I became serious about every day carry June 2008. During my waking hours, I carry my handgun 90% of the time. The other 10% it is within arm’s reach. Thanks to the encouragement, mentoring and coaching from my best friend, I can shoot my preferred handguns pretty well out to 15 yards and hit the target out to 25. I have competed in one IDPA match and didn’t finish in last place. I enjoy shooting and have the advantage of a private outdoor range 10 minutes from the house. I have never taken any type of professional handgun training and realized I needed to do something / anything to improve my skills beyond where I was. Why and How I selected Suarez International: I participate on the TN Gun Owners Forum and Randy Harris had posted to establish interest for any of the SI courses in my area. As I had the place, I thought this may be a good deal for me. So I checked out Suarez and Randy. The internet has a lot of information, but I am pretty intelligent, can decipher fact from opinion and competent enough to make a sound decision. Facts: Gabe has a “pastâ€; SI is still in business; SI has repeat student business; Randy Harris has an excellent reputation; from my class – SI does train current and former military some of whom do or did special stuff in service as well as LE-types. My biggest concern was the teaching environment; while SI promotes the attitude of “we are always looking at new ways of doing things to get better†you can still get a closed-minded Type-A instructor When Randy and I communicated regarding when and where, if the property itself was suitable, etc, he seemed pretty low-key, so I committed and we set a date. Why Close Range Gun-fighting: Speaking with Randy, this is the course he recommended when I described my skill level. On-line reviews were favorable and what I wanted to learn was in the course syllabus: learn to shoot better and learn how to put rounds on target while moving. Pretty low expectations, but this was my first-ever professional training, if my instructor was insane and teaching stuff I would never do or use, I wanted to get something out of it. Randy is NOT insane, he’s a pretty cool dude. Gear I ran my EDC gun, a CZ 75B Omega. Flawless operation shooting 700 rounds of 115gr FMJ Sellier and Bellot / WWB / Federal Champion. Other handguns represented were S&W M&P, Glock, SA 1911 and Ruger. Calibers: 1 - .45, 2 - .40, 5 – 9mm Bonus: I brought an extra handgun on Day 2 and ran it through two drill strings (3 shots x 5 times) to function test (it’s new) and try my new skills on another platform. One of my classmates swapped between a 1911 and SR9. What I learned: bring a mag loader, you will have the opportunity to shoot a MINIMUM of 500 rounds; if you run a 1911 – bring a lot of mags and practice reloads. I used my 5.11 Tactical Casual Leather belt; do some research, find one you like in your budget and get a good quality belt if you don’t have one. My EDC holster is a N82 (Nate Squared) Tactical. For my body shape and carry position, this is an awesome holster YMMV. Holster has a leather body shield and could be made better with a combat cut. I used a Galco double mag pouch. For training, I do not recommend using mag pouches with Velcro flaps, it will slow you down. For the most part, my classmates used what appeared to be their primary rigs and wore “street†clothes. Common-sense tells me that’s what I want to train with. Bonus: If you have other carry holsters you want to “testâ€, go for it, I used an alternate on Day 2 as did some of my classmates ON TO TRAINING Here’s the deal, this is close range gun-fighting, meaning the threat is 5 yards or MUCH closer; this training focuses on the close threat. The BG needs to get close to you to get your stuff – money, jewelry, women, etc. It’s not likely he’ll gun you down from across the street and then take his time looting your bullet filled corpse. SI preaches MOVE – MOVE - MOVE and I like it! Trading rounds with a BG like in the Old West or exchanging blows like Rock’em-Sock’em Robots is probably not the best survival tactics to employ. Randy has put together an excellent article entitled “Pests Eat Fast†An easy acronym for avoiding and if it goes bad, a good way to survive an up-close personal attack. I suggest future students read it prior to class; once you see it in motion it makes perfect (and common) sense. So far into training, we have not fired a gun. We are spending a lot of time on how to be pro-active in recognizing a potential threat and learning multiple levels to prevent anyone from drawing / employing a weapon all from Pests Eat Fast. Then we did some shooting. The focus was on “back-to-basics†including proper grip, sight picture, alternative indexing, draw / ready position mechanics. After lunch we then applied what we learned to moving and shooting, both one handed and two handed drills. End of day recap and departed range. The gang met at a local restaurant for dinner, which I missed, thanks to an escaped dog... Day 2 started with review of what we learned on Day 1. Today’s goal is to put it all together. A lot more shooting… I want to say at this point Randy is a great instructor. I had two safety violations, one muzzle and one trigger. Randy quietly came up to me and said, “I know the gun is empty (which it was) but let’s not practice ANY bad habits.†If anyone else had a safety violation, I am not aware of it because Randy handled it the same way, without embarrassment or ridicule. Randy also broke the class into 2 groups of 4 which allowed him more time to provide individual and personalized instruction and observe who was doing what on the firing line. End of day recap and we all departed with new friends. So was it worth it? My expectations were met, here’s some stuff I learned… I can shoot better and I can shoot on the move My skill level shooting one handed with either hand has increased dramatically I am better prepared to identify and avoid potential attack I am more confident of surviving a close encounter of the bad kind I am better prepared to protect my family I liked my instructor and his teaching style / training methods The skills I gained has increased my confidence to participate in more IDPA matches I learned that cover is like a smelly friend, it’s better from 4 – 6 feet away. Knowing what I know now, I will lean towards carrying a hi-cap handgun whenever possible. Malfunctions can kill you; keep moving while you are trying to clear! An empty and/or jammed handgun can be very effective when smashed into an attacker’s face. The temps were in the low 90s with high humidity, future classes will be spring, fall or winter. I will take another SI training course with Randy Harris

There is a well known saying by conservatives about present day politics - If liberals win elections, they expect conservatives to 'compromise', meaning, "sit down and shut up!" If conservatives win elections, liberals expect them to compromise, meaning, "give us at least 50% say in what goes on". Liberals want their cake, your cake and my cake and eat it too. I can't compromise with that. And I don't disagree with you as much as you may think I do. I am for America, and for Americans. And I am for anyone else who is for the same.

Well...at least they're not as goofy looking as the "toe shoes"

thats how i do it as well

Since he's in a lifetime appointment I fail to see how anyone would think that he's been gotten to, or that he's taken care of, or that he's a genius. Could it be that he voted according to how he saw the law? It saddens me that politics are involved at all in the interpretation of the law.

I have always been under the impression no one is smart enough, or dumb enough to pull something like that off. I'm going to side more with he failed as a judge.

No worries.And no apologies necessary. Punching back is great and works most of the time. The problem is that when it is more than 1 assailant. Then you ARE in a lethal force situation that can go badly quickly. Especially if it is a 2 on 1 and it goes to the ground.... I'm not suggesting you stab people that just punch you....just like you can't just shoot people who punch you (unless there are circumstances that would make lethal force necessary). I have better than average Hand to Hand skills. But if 2 guys get a hold of you and it goes to the ground then you are in a BAD situation. Here is where the short knife makes getting out of that situation a lot easier. I carry a gun too. They work better at distance. But guns can be problematic when the BG at contact distance and is grappling with you. It is FAR easier for him to disarm a gun than a knife. The knife helps open the door to get out and then access your gun. I look at everything from a risk management standpoint. That is a product of experience and training. So that is my starting point in the discussion. I also get it that not everyone else does or is even interested in that. So everyone is free to make their own choices.

This. If you want to carry, don't drink. If you want to drink, leave it at home. If you choose to drink and carry, that's on you when you get caught.

I'm more inclined to think the chicago boys got to him. It is now clear he changed his vote.

Well, if they get rolled up packing heat and stinkin of booze they deserve what's coming to them. Just had one in Clarksville the other day who got arrested for boozing and carrying... 10,000 bond.

Great to see google taking some steps to cut down on socially devastating material </sarcasm> Maybe they can next work on being the biggest gateway to the proliferation of kiddie porn in the world. Others might like to see some reduction in warez & other copyright infringement material. Google maintains big databases on all the injunction requests they get from authorities about copyrigh materials. Surely somebody has mentioned to them their contribution to child sex trafficking. Perhaps they should've started there. :gypsies: Sent from my SPH-D700 using Tapatalk 2

You have a point but impairment starts before you can actually feel a difference. All that is relative to body mass and how seasoned a drinker a person is. That's all arguable and neither side can make headway. More importantly than any of that is that a routine traffic stop or road block coupled with a less than reasonable officer can have dire consequences. The fact that a person is not inebriated is irrelevant. A persons carry weapon plus the smell of alcohol equals time and money wasted. Just be careful everyone, not that that makes a difference. If a person was not being careful, my telling them to be careful would likely have no effect.

Hero Gear signs says (or words to that effect): "HCP Carriers Welcome Please keep weapon holstered. All others please clear your weapon outside." Seems a reasonable approach to me and clear as to the shop's intention--welcoming, respectful, and safe.

I take your point, and if I was in your store, I would abide by your wishes, but because of your policy, I would prefer to take my business elsewhere to a more "carry friendly" LGS. Just sayin...

I was talking to my dad this weekend, who, like many octogenarians and WWII vets, grew up on a farm. I asked him if he remembered them having summers this hot, and he said of course they did, but since they had no a/c, they didn't know the difference. They also took baths only once or twice a week, but everyone had the same lifestyle, so that was the norm. We're all used to climate control indoors, so that's why the heat feels much warmer than it really is and why everyone makes such a big deal out of it.

It’s about control; not money. The Feds don’t get any money from a legal transfer. If sales go through dealers the Feds have control and hold the dealers accountable. Last year 13K transfers were denied and 356 stolen guns identified. (in this state) I’m not trying to justify it; just saying it is what it is.

I tried it once. Made some of the most expensive kindling I've ever used.

Thanks Mav. Mav has been in class and seen the WHY of the WHAT. It is not because I just think it is cool. It is from actually working this stuff against non cooperative opponents. And MAV, I won't cringe at you carrying a folder, as I go places (other states, foreign countries) where I can not carry a fixed blade. But if I CAN I will. It is THAT big a deal. And I do not have any illusions of fighting a knife duel. If I have to use a knife then it will be because I either do not have a gun on me, or I am tangled up with someone (or multiple someones) and the knife is the easiest tool to use to open up that clinch. I have no doubt anyone here can pull an assisted open folder very fast...as long as no one is putting real forward drive type pressure on them and as along as no one has tied them up in a clinch. There is a difference between pulling a folder standing upright with no one applying pressure to you and doing it with an adrenaline dump while someone is trying to cave your head in. Add someone trying to hit you , stab you or whatever, and move from standing to tangled up with someone on the ground, and suddenly the pocket carried folder suddenly becomes a lot less of a sure thing. In these situations pulling a blade from a belt is exponentially easier than pulling it from a pocket....especially if you are having to access it with the other hand. So if you have never tried to access your folder with someone punching you (for real, not playing "patty cake") or with someone trying to keep you from deploying the knife, then you probably do not have a real contextual basis for what I'm talking about.

hopefully it rains soon and a cold front comes through im over this 100% BS

well, i decided to leave the 1100 as is and bought an 870...i have an ATI scorpion recoil stock & fore end combo on the wayto make it tacticool...thanks for the input that you guys gave...

I'm sorry, I wasn’t addressing what you did. I was just saying I can understand why a gun shop may have a policy not to pull loaded weapons inside the store. Same reason I understand the no loaded weapons in gun shows policy. Unlike a store it’s to big to keep an eye on everyone and people can, and will do stupid things. Last discharge we heard of here at a gun show was a dealer.

It's part of the Obamacare act.

I got to agree with these two statements. Moving a lot of firearms in a month or a year, is going to get you noticed, by someone, whether it's on the internet, showing up at every gun show with something to sale, posting several ads in papers or buying and selling at a flea market. We all know these people, because we see them all the time, including on this site. And it doesn't take long to figure out who is moving a lot of firearms here.

I think a better sign would be appropriate. Something to the tune of please keep loaded weapons holstered. When The great outdoor store had the range in Jackson there policy was holstered weapons must be unloaded. Basically no one enforced the rule with HCP holders because all of the employees OC there weapons. Of course I never saw anyone unholster a weapon outside the range while I was there. I think if everyone acts responsible you will be fine. Safety first. JTM Sent from my iPhone

So in summary..... Lying is now Free Speech. But calling somebody a "Lying SOB" is Hate Speech and may be punishable by law.

Thanks for the kind words Gotthegoods. Like I said in class, adults don't learn by being yelled at or by being talked down to. And I'm not the kind of guy who makes himself feel better by making others feel bad. That is just not me. I'm confident from what I can do...and have done....not from who I can make feel bad. If my mission were to make ME feel superior then I guess yelling at and making fun of the students would be the right thing to do. As my mission is to make YOU better, there is nothing to be gained by making you nervous or embarrassed. The hard part is convincing guys who have "been around guns their whole life" to come to class. I have been around electricity my whole life....that does not make me an electrician. And many people think that simply owning a gun makes them competent and prepared to defend themselves and their loved ones in a life threatening situation. Yet one guy in particular in class who has been a lifelong shooter and even a soldier in the 82nd Airborne said he didn't realize just how much he did not know. So sometimes it is hard to get people to take the leap of faith and sign up for class. But those that did were all asking when the next one will be. As to the gear folks used, a class like this is an excellent place to see just how well your gear and the way you set it up works in more real world type situatons. This is especially so when you use that same gear from concealment. So I look at the class as a "gear lab" where you can see whether your setup really works well for you or not. I have personal preferences, but we don't make fun of you if you don't use the same gear we do. We are not all the same and do not all have the same lifestyle or wardrobe and I'm down to earth enought to recognize that and not force MY solutions on you if they are not appropriate for you. I really enjoyed teaching this class and working with this group. It was a pretty diverse group and I think everyone benefitted not only from the class material, but from interacting with the other students. Looking forward to the next one!

I agree. Military awards don't ( shouldn't ) come easy. But then there's John Kerry.....

If you're lucky, you'll reach contentment. It's not the same as wealth or fame, but it's much more satisfying.

Get a degree in something you like to do and can find a job in. If you enjoy the work you will never work a day in your life. With all due respect if I wanted to work as a cop (and I have) I wouldn’t waste my time on a criminal justice degree. Any LEO Agency would rather you a degree in something they could use; they will teach you everything you need to know about being a cop. If I wanted to work in criminal justice I would get a law degree and pass the bar. (That’s what I wish I would have done)

Don't try to put words in my mouth. I differentiate between minor children and adult children. We all try to raise our children with wisdom and good advice, and a little punishment when it's deserved. When they reach adulthood, we hope they've also reached maturity and learned something along the way. I don't believe in coercing adults into behavior they don't want. I don't like to see homeless people sleeping in the streets, druggies wasting away from their habits, and criminals in striped suits picking up trash along the highway, but it's all a result of the sum of choices they've made in their lives -- make good choices and good things happen -- make bad choices and bad things happen. I'm willing to leave them to their results. It's called Liberty.

Would you let your kids do meth because they need to learn from the experience? Sorry ..but I would not stand by and let my kid get hooked on meth and say "well here ya go.. go and try to figure this out on your own" What kind of parent does that?

I dont know about yall but my a$$ isnt pink its a welcome white paint number sw6658 I had the wife verify by holding a sherwin williams paint card next to it.

Being that it was your dad's gun I'd leave it as is and buy a tactical 870, but that's me.

I usually wear both,especially at indoor ranges.

As a country; Will we EVER hear the end of this slave business. No one alive has ever owned one or remembers them. AND, the generations that saw the "Black Codes" "Colored bathrooms and water fountains" and other nonsense are dead or dying off. Anti black sentiment is localized in small pockets [mostly rural] and every year a wave of kids are born that could care less about that mess. Funny though, it's not even the bigots in this country that keep it from fading into obscurity, it's the [as we say now] Libtards. They're a like a spouse that keeps bringing up what you did before you were married.....decades later. Jeez, get some new material!!! Libtards. Good word guys. Good word.

That's how I read it, too. *shakes head*

Sounds like the HCP holder pulled over to get in a fight and then shot an unarmed man. Who then took his gun away from him and killed him with his own gun. Am I reading that right?

And the initial shooter, the one that died, was an HCP holder. Not good.