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  They couldn't make us buy something either, but they did. Couldn't ban guns because of 2A, but they did.   - OS

I know you said you can't pay me, but I tell you what. You send me the money you would spend on your trip from New York to my home in Memphis (flight, hotel, food, ect) and I will email you a pic of me and my guns

Am I the only one trying to take notes on who I wouldn't do business with later on because of their actions during this mess?  Between ammo gougers and these people selling multiple "New in box!" firearms, I've gathered quite a list.  And that's only the a-holes who post their phone number or email address in their ad, and the occasional member on here.

A full auto weapon is no more dangerous than a semi auto.  Libtards have been watching too many movies.

Confiscating our property can't be done without the consent of congress. If they start to talk about it, it's torches and pitchforks time.

If there were not 4 tax stamps...one on each box, I'd report them to the state of TN.

The government has been looking at IRAs in the past. http://www.wnd.com/2012/11/now-obama-wants-your-401k/ I am torn between cash and "stuff" as we all are, I have never trusted banks. Years ago the banks that an past governor was part of here in TN went  bad, a lot of people lost money, me as well. That burned me on banks, so I have it spreed around in diff places, banks, lawyers, and "hard stuff".

the pilgrims only chose to land at Plymouth because they ran out of beer.  If they had more beer they may have kept on sailing.   There might be something better than beer but I am not sure what.

Then let’s start here….   I voluntarily answered my country’s call during the Vietnam War. I have two honorable discharges and served my country as a cop after I got out. I don’t think that gives me any state mandated special privileges and certainly not more gun rights that any citizen. I also don’t think that just because someone hung out for 20 years they get some special treatment that combat veterans don’t get. (I am not a military combat veteran) I have an HCP because I am lucky enough to be able to afford it. I certainly wish all citizens of the state of Tennessee could enjoy their gun rights; and maybe someday they can. If the state is going to start reducing the price of gun privileges; I would suggest they do it with those that can’t afford a permit.

That wouldn’t concern me. Who memorizes the lists of reciprocity states or keeps up on it? It’s a non-issue unless he is going to arrest you; then he would find out.

Revolvers are in short supply because stupid people elected obama.

I'm driving like I'm shooting... Less than I'd like.

I put it in a little, or big pile, and set it on fire. Makes for a big flame.   Dolomite

Please understand that your request will be met with skepticism, since most common sense folk know that a simple photo can be made to project good or bad, depending on the photographer.  I'm no professional photographer, but if Ghandi was still alive I could take seemingly innocent photographs of him during a set which could make him look like a saint or make him look menacing.  Now, you're talking about photographing gun owners in their homes for the purpose of a private project of yours.  I assume you understand how easily one could make us responsible gun owners who believe in the right to use force to protect ourselves and our families look like gun toting lunatic vigilantees.    The fact that you're from New York doesn't help your cause.  I know that not all New Yorkers are pants wetting hoplophobes, but it is one of the big 3 states that believes in removing weaponry from the hands of law abiding citizens.  I can only assume that the majority of your citizens fit the category of pants wetting hoplophobes since they keep getting elected there.  So again, forgive our skepticism; it is only because, in the south, common sense is still pretty common.

Dianne...Harry....Is that you?

Of course this is not the answer for everyone, my justication for having my personal ammo depot paid off this year.  I have not needed any ammo whatsoever, none.   I do still shoot the same frequency as before.  For you guys that live hand to mouth on ammo, it pays to have a little ammo inventory on site.  My didn't come over night, my recipe for years was if I shoot 2 boxes of 9mm, I replaced my stash with 3 boxes within 48 hours.  I did this over a course of years, and it slowly built my inventory.   Actually this is the same recipe that I got me so overweight, that is anothet story.  While I was building, I didn't know why I was doing it.  I didn't have clear plan.  Come to think of it, my aquisition of guns is similiar, do not know why I just keep adding, and adding.  I have no clear plan with that either.    My suggestion, IF and WHEN this crap is over, not all at once unless you are flushed with disposible income, start building your ammo depot, slowly.  Then if you do not reload, you may just want to have supplies on hand.  I can assure you if you have no desire to reload, you will when the ammo cubbard is dry.

I don't really care where the money goes or where it comes from. Anyone profiting from laws that protect their business at the expense of the voting populace can just figure out a new business plan. If they lose some business, so folks can pick up a bottle of wine when they shop for groceries, so be it. If I had my way, I'd take away their exclusive rights to sell liquor too. At the same time, I think it's ridiculous to tell liquor stores they can't sell smokes, beer, corn dog, or whatever, too.

I was always a proponent of Don't Ask Don't Tell. If you wanted to search my car, get a warrant.

Tennessee is on high moral grounds when it comes to sins.Always has. That said, this bill did not make it because someone's pocket got lined. That's pretty obvious.

There is a huge fire where i live in Pigeon forge, they have evacuated the whole place, i went and saved a bunch of my families dogs and belongings, Pray they get it out before it reaches to my side.

That still keeps my biggest reason for not doing it. I don%t want any firearm or accessories that are registered with the government for any reason Sent from behind my anvil in ye olde smithy

guys, Cyprus is broke. heck, half the EU is broke. about the only countries with any money in the EU are a few Norse countries and France and Germany. France and Germany are carrying the rest of em and they want their money back. This is what happens when socialism is adopted in a free market economy.  Can it happen here? Yes. Will it happen here? probably.   If you have a retirement account, I suggest you find some way to buy it out and then offshore it. I myself don't have one. What I DO have is a lot of silver now.  

Play nice, boys. This is only the internet.

Now you see it...now you don't.

Maybe.....I thinks it a bunch of BS.....myself.

    I'd be more worried about underage drinking and date rape on campus than I would someone with a gun in their car.

if the floor is clean i sweep it up and use it.  i have also burn it.  what fun to see it go up. but in today world i would cry if i dropped some on the floor.

Really liking this one Steve!

That made my nether region queasy. :rofl: :rofl:

And this is why no one is going to take you up on your offer. This guy had is photo made and look what happened... :rofl:

  I did a little bit of searching to see if I could dig up that info, but didn't have any luck.  I did read that these contracts, like the ones being the subject of the current hoopla, are authorizations to purchase ammunition and other items that can cover several years.  If that is the case, it may be a little more challenging to find these random requisitions out there.  I know through friends who work for the federal government that they go through massive amounts of ammo for training.  I've never had a need to ask how many they fired so I don't know for sure, but my sense was that thousands of rounds in a year was not uncommon.  One of my friends is a retired firearms instructor and he always talked like they had basically unlimited ammo at their disposal and they made full use of it.  He now teaches the classes for the federal flight deck officer program and talks as if they go through cases of ammo each class and they teach it every couple of months.  His training site is just one of many across the United States.  Like the original article I posted says, it's a matter of scale.  Knoxville Police Department may go through a few thousand rounds per year, but when you compare that to all of the federal agencies and multiply that by five years, it makes much more sense why they are going through so much ammo.  Seriously, we all expect the men and women who we task with protecting us and our interests to be able to shoot and have access to ammo right?   In full disclosure, I also was a little concerned when I first read about these ammo purchases, but I am not a Kool Aid drinker and immediately began to do some research and thinking on the issue instead of simply taking someone else's word for it.  As soon as I saw Alex Jones jump into the mix, I knew it definitely deserved even more diligence and research because that guy is a conspiracy merchant.  He plays off of people's concerns and makes good money doing it even though none of his doomsday predictions ever seem to come true.

I don't consider it maintenance. It's more of a bonding experience.

I've been riding since 77, I am very surprised that I have survived this long, although I am half-crippled I still really enjoy riding, I try to avoid a lot of city riding &/or interstate riding though, seems like everyone is out to kill you while riding through a populated/congested area.

I'll be so glad when I can run down to Academy, WW or Sportsmans and guy a case or two of Remington 550 boxes.....Just 'cause I CAN..!!!!! :up:

Heck, if they'll let you do that I want to shoot it too. IDPA/Outlaw or whatever it was, I had a great time shooting at Cleveland today!

It has a safety, it's at the other end :)

Enticing people to break the law is lazy police work.  It does nothing to curb real crime which involve real victims, it just makes folks feel good that they're putting a person in jail who broke the law, while ignoring the fact that they wouldn't have broke the law without the encouragement and enticement of the LEO that arrested them.   The FBI has had a few "home grown terrorist" plots they've "foiled" over the years, but when you hear the facts of the case it is just a person who talked a lot of smack on the internet about jihad, then was approached by an asset, taught how to make bombs by said asset, then provided bomb materials by that asset.  What have they prevented?  There are real active threats out there they need to focus on, not entraping folks then patting themselves on the back for saving the day and averting a disaster which would have never taken place anyhow.  Doesn't make sense to me

It's a crying shame, no doubt. But at least there are a few folks left in Colorado with some integrity.   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mj2VbhuICeY&feature=youtu.be       As with any unjust law, there is in fact a Duty to disobedience.

So you want to come into my house and take pictures of me and my guns? Dream on Alice. And if your a photographer I'd think you could take the time to upload an Avatar at least.

Hey that's great! But what about the rest of us that served less than 20 years? or are not 100% disabled? or what about just ordinary average Joes that would rather not have to continually renew every few years? Lifetime permits are a great idea, I have an Indiana lifetime permit, but jeesh they sure as heck kept the number of folks who would be eligable as limited as possible...

That's pretty normal for an out of the box holster. It can scuff the finish on your slide and cause a little holster wear if its bad enough. You should be able to see where its dragging and take a file to the inside to relieve a little material in the area making contact. Also try loosening the retention screws a little and see if that helps. If you decide that you don't like that holster, for my money Master Tac makes the best kydex holster out there right now. Just my opinion though.

The schools do this type of over blown hysteria to terrify the children about guns. It used to be the boogie man kids were afraid of - now it is a hunk of metal.

Lipman has no special deal.   If they are the only distributor running to Clarksville then it must be about money.  The distributor I worked for had rights to Cookville among the rest of East TN.  We did not sell in Cookville at all.  No money to be made.  NO distributor had exclusive rights to areas of the state.  There are multiple distributors who are licenced in each of the five or six distribution areas in TN.  Lipman might have exclusive rights to Parliament brand liquors in mid TN,  just like Beverage Control has the only right to sell Crown Royal in East TN.   The trade off of being able to sell beer, set ups, and other non alcohol items is not good for liquor stores.  None of them have space for those items, certainly not enough space to make up for a 30% drop off in wine sales.   Most of the TN liquor and wine distributors are family businesses.   None of them except for Lipman and maybe a couple of others are in any position to do business with grocers.  Distribution would be done by national companies.  The downside is that money will leave TN.  I am not sure how that benefits the state at all.   And of course it came down to lobbyists and their influence.  Everything is about money.  In this instance it is not necessarily a bad thing.   If you think you have collusion to set prices now wait until a Diageo is in charge of how much you are going to pay.    I am glad it got shot down but of course I have a self serving interest in all of this.  

What is this ?

As someone has already said, follow the money. 

I would like to know at what rate these agencies purchased ammo in 2000 to the present. Has there been a serious uptick in the government hoarding ammo or is this the norm and we are just hyper sensitive given the current administration. And don't forget "just because your paranoid doesn't mean they are not out to get you."

I'm gonna go with "follow the money."  I have been following this since Kroger started the campaign a couple of years ago.  Such an absolutely silly law.  I'm tired of hearing the argument that this will hurt mom & pop stores.  Of course it will, but that is no justification at all.  The consumers are who should be catered to, not business.  We're no better than those liberal commies in the slave states who try to outlaw Walmart because they offer low prices and no union.  I'm ashamed of Tennessee on this one.

If this were true there'd be terrorist attacks constantly by gun owners with the intent of destabilizing the government and furthering the right wing agenda.  All the mass shootings that have taken place are by psychos who want nothing more than a body count.  The last couple of right wingers responsible for terrorism used bombs made from fertilizer and household chemicals.  Of course, this is all a self-fulfilling prophecy.  If they continue to marginalize every gun owning conservative in the country to the point of disarming them and taxing away their wealth, they most certainly will have a domestic terrorism problem.... a significantly large one.

EXACTLY!  Kool Aid consumption is not solely a left-wing activity.  When people are only looking for one explanation, they are going to exercise selective observation and are sure to find exactly what they are looking for even if it's totally absurd or if their few cherry picked "facts" are contradicted by piles of evidence.  If people want to know who is responsible for this ammunition shortage, many can take a look in the mirror and think about their panicked stockpile of ammo piled up in the garage or listed on GunBroker for 3-4 times the retail cost.   This particular topic is interesting to me.  On one hand, gun owners talk about the vital importance of practicing with their firearms, but when the federal law enforcement agencies purchase ammunition to practice with, people flip out and believe a takeover is in the works.  Or let's assume they are preparing for civil unrest and civil unrest did happen.  My strong suspicion is that many people actually have very selective concerns based on who would be carrying out the unrest.  Think for a second and be honest with yourself.  If the Occupy protests had turned into civil unrest or if the LA riots happened again, would you: 1) expect the government to do nothing to stop it, and/or 2) be upset if the government used violence to put down the unrest?  My point here is that I am very skeptical that the Alex Jones crowd is really all that concerned about civil liberties, but is really only concerned about civil liberties for specific groups that fit their own definition of who *should* be protected by the Constitution.   Also, on this "no hesitation" target issue, unless something has changed there is no evidence that the government purchased targets with pregnant women on them.  Based on my reading of the Alex Jones story, the government purchased targets from a company that also happens to sell the "no hesitation" targets people are wringing their hands over.  At no point has anyone been able to confirm whether the government has purchased any of those targets.  This is the kind of "journalism" Alex Jones practices.  He takes one piece of information, finds some other random possibly related piece of information, and makes a huge leap in logic that is ALWAYS grounded in his conspiratorial mindset.  For him, everything is a conspiracy because there simply is no other option in his mind.  

It was about 4 or 6 weeks when I got mine, but that was a handful of years ago.