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Guys, I am now an employee (part time; better than sitting making NOTHING!) at Sumner Gun and Supply in Gallatin. Not sure of the scheduling as yet, but I will keep you posted.   Hope when I do get the schedule squared away, some of ya will come by and say hi!

  Since we've never met, I'm gonna come by and ask the dumbest shit I can think of. Then, when your head is about to explode, I'll come clean and welcome you to the firearms business :). Congrats. You'll have a blast.

Woah, you're the one saying stop complaining about a ruling that is 'constitutional' because SCOTUS ruled so, and focus on stopping drunk driving instead... which can't be stopped through any reasonable or logical method so it's a false argument.   I have a natural right (and protected by the constitution) to have freedom of movement without having to show my papers within the US...  Any ruling by any court, any law by any level of government is a violation and an infringement on those natural rights...  The method I use to travel doesn't change or alter my right to free travel, even more so if the excuse used is because said mode of travel wasn't invented at the time the constitution was written.   Just because a group or majority of people follow an unconstitutional law/ruling, or are so poorly educated to not recognize the violation of their natural rights, doesn't give the ruling or law anymore authority, or make the violation of peoples freedoms who do notice any less serious.   Does the fact that millions of black people followed the 'separate but equal' laws that were ruled constitutional by SCOTUS make those rulings any less immoral, or a lesser violation on the civil rights of black Americans who suffered through them for decades?  No of course not.   You might be fine giving up your freedom for the fake security of DUI checkpoints...  but you have no right or authority to give up MY freedoms and rights for your crusade against drunk drivers...  anymore than the men and women who sit on the bench have...  It's not your freedom to give or take, it belongs to me and only I can willing give up my freedoms...  Just because I'm suffering through these violations doesn't make it any less immoral or less of a gross violation of my natural rights.   ​The real problem here is nobody ever explained liberty, freedom and rights to you...  you've somehow gotten the notion in your head that somehow your rights come from the law, the government, or the collective of society...  and are not endowed to you individually by your creator...   Robert with all do respect you seem to think you know what's best for your fellow man, that somehow your choices are the 'right' choices and they should be forced to obey for your vision for the good of society...  That your perceived risk of drunk drivers is so great that we must force innocents to suffer at the hands of the government to save us from this 'threat'...  This is the same twisted line of thinking as used by many of the progressives you love to disagree with on a regular basis :)   I'm smart enough to realize I don't know what's best for my fellow man, that there can never be a 'perfect' or safe society...  That I'm not smart enough to see all of the unintended consequences of my 'master plan'...  the best I can do is trust they will do what is in their best interest for themselves and their families, and unless they physically harm me, or steal from me, it's none of my business what they do with that freedom. And that is all I ask in return from them.   But hey look on the bright side, your argument is winning in the public, and it's working out so well for us as a country huh?  

I know why but cannot say. People would send jesse and al after me thinking I'm racist, which I am not. sent barefoot from the hills of Tennessee

Go look at the titles of the people on the peace prize committee. Here's a hint: The people on the chemistry committee are chemists, the people on the biology committee are biologists, the people on the peace prize committee are a bunch of leftist pinko commie politicians (With maybe one exception but probably not).   And I bet they're feeling stupid now. What am I saying? Those kind of people have no shame.

And the Republican party put him up for President.  :wacko:   People wonder why Obama was elected.  :rolleyes:

Ok, second night was tonight. They close at 5, I went ina t 4:40 yesterday and tonight for range cleaning. Tonight, the first weirdness, lol...   A very nice deputy sheriff came in to visit another young man working. We met, and had a great time talking about various subjects. Conversation rolled around to how some of the officers can have a bit of an attitude. I related my story of getting pulled over a few years back, and he told me how the officer violated my 2nd and 4th amendment rights. He said guys like him will eventually run into someone that really knows the law and they will have a hard time.   I said, "Yeah, they'll run into Leonard."   He stared at me. Slowly, he said, "Don't... even... get me started. Leonard is my cousin. The whole family knows he's a f'n fruitcake."   I couldn't even speak...

You're a bigger disappointment than my 12th grade prom date.

Yeah. That would be great. Way to get the excitement up with a thread title only to disappoint. Hilarious. :rolleyes: :rofl:

You say that, yet you counter arguments of folks who say they are not constitutional by saying the SCOTUS already ruled on it, suggesting that the benchmark for what is or isn't constitutional is the SCOTUS opinion.

The way I read the reg's, if you don't live on the land, you must have a license.  Just get one, they're not that expensive. 

      Heh, when I was going to U.T. and for some time afterward I lived at my grandmother's house at 2314 East Fifth.  For those unfamiliar, East Fifth runs parallel to Magnolia and that location is roughly two or three blocks from Cherry Street.  Further, because I also worked while attending U.T., I would often come home after dark.    As a bonus, guess where I worked for much of the time I was in college, during the school year - as in the job I would regularly be leaving after dark?  If you said East Towne Mall you got it right.   And all this was before I carried a gun.  Throw in the fact that I am pretty close to being about as white as Wonderbread and I guess I am lucky to be alive!   Seriously, though, the Magnolia area was rough even then - I am convinced there was a crack house on the corner of East Fifth and Olive back then and we had more than one drive by shooting on our block, including drive-by shootings on the same house on two, separate occasions - the house across the street and one down from us.  I was at home when one happened and heard the shots (but didn't see anything.)   In all that time, the only time I was out and about, got really nervous and still to this day believe that my life was in danger happened in a remote location in Blaine at a small, public boat ramp/gravel parking lot where I went to fish.  Some guys parked their car across the lot but pointed so they were looking right at me.  I could see that they didn't have fishing gear and my situational awareness started yelling to get the heck out of there.  I tossed my stuff in the back of my pickup, got in the truck and headed out - and those guys fired up their car and tried to block the exit before I could get to it.  If not for the fact that I had learned to drive on gravel roads - meaning I knew how to maintain control and outmaneuver them - they would probably have cut me off before I could get out.  That incident stuck in my mind and got me started thinking about getting a carry permit.  I didn't actually act on that thinking (although I should have) until the Christian/Newsom murders happened some years later (after I had already moved out of Knoxville.)   There are two points to this:    One is that it would have been terribly ironic to have come to a bad end in a 'safe' area like Blaine while living in the 'hood, often coming in late at night and walking down the street to the corner store on a regular basis.   Two is that there are no 'safe' places, only places where the threat level is likely higher or lower than others.   I will say this:  Even back then I would not let female friends or girlfriends come to that neighborhood to see me alone after dark.  Also, I think the area has possibly gotten worse since then.  My grandmother is deceased and the house is no longer in the family so there is little reason for me to go to that area, now.  That said, there are a few restaurants around there that I like to visit from time to time (Philippine Connection on Magnolia, close to Chilhowee Park is one.)  That area and the downtown area of Chattanooga are the only places I go with any frequency where I make an effort to carry a high cap semiauto because I worry that the revolver I most often carry may not hold enough rounds to deal with a possible threat.   On the flip side, I guess that is why it always seems silly to me when folks start talking about the capacity of a revolver not being 'enough' unless they live or regularly frequent such locations - because I lived in the 'hood for just over a decade, never carried a gun at all and lived to tell the tale.  I did have to use a gun to 'deter' three guys who were trying to break down our front door in the middle of the night, once - but the gun I used was a revolver and it was plenty to send them running without having to fire a single shot.    Of course I was also younger and less cautious at the time - not to mention I worked out a lot in the student weight room at U.T. (got measured for a tux for a friend's wedding back then and learned that I had a 63 inch chest, 13 inch biceps, 21 inch neck and a 38 inch waist - I am in nothing like that kind of shape, now) and kept my head shaved so I probably didn't look like the best target.

So Robert since you're pro-DUI checkpoint because SCOTUS says so ... can we assume you're pro-Obamacare since SCOTUS says so?

Robert,   Lets pretend you're right...  That there is no natural right to freely travel via the least expensive, quickest, safest, easiest mode of travel...  Lets pretend for a minute that is the case...     Can we agree that you do have a right to freely travel in this country and that is a natural right?  If so what modes of travel are you free from being stopped with no RAS/PC at a checkpoint and be forced to show you papers?   I don't think anybody here is making the argument that drunk drivers shouldn't be punished when they get caught...  I see people complaining about checkpoints that stop people at random and force them to interact with the police when they haven't done anything criminal to justify the stop.   So again, is there a natural right to freely travel, and if so what modes of travel are covered by that natural right?    

  So nya :rofl:

The incorrectness of the original story aside, the bottom line here is that Obamacare if it is fully enacted (and I see little hope that it wont be) is the final puzzle piece in turning this country into a socialist society.and will cause the nation's looming financial collapse (if something else hasn't triggered it before hand).   Oh...leaders will still claim it's a free society founded on the principles of free market capitalism and a representative democracy all while you are told what doctors you can see and given medical treatment based on your "worth" to society...we'll still celebrate independence day and shoot off fireworks (if they aren't too loud or present a negative environmental impact) and we'll still, probably, be allowed to pray and worship as we chose (so long as we do so privately and/or our houses of worship don't overtly support its religious principles) but it will be nothing more than window dressing for a dead body that once was a republic.   I am just thankful that I'm old enough to have had at least a fleeting glimpse of what America used to be.

  If you understood, then you would not continue to post unrelated information. I'm not saying driving a vehicle on a public road is a right.  I'm saying that the freedom of movement is a right and that the mechanism of movement is neither here nor there for private transportation purposes.  Futhermore, the licensing and permitting of mechanisms of movement is a means of restricting and controlling the freedom of movement.   Looking through the wall of irrelevent words you posted, there is nothing about permitting or licensing of the mechanism of movement (horse and/or wagon). It appeared that the argument was that the state has the right to make people get licenses.  The license comes attached with a requirement to allow testing.  The people therefore must submit to testing to get a license to operate a mechanism of travel for private purposes. As far as your final argument, let's try something.  

In bigger cities I avoid MLK blvd and any intersections involving MLK blvd as well as 2-3 blocks on either side of MLK blvd. I also avoid any streets with state names or president names, ie Washinton ave, Jefferson ave, Texas ave, Oklahoma ave, etc. These seem to be pretty universal in every big city I have been too.   Also, most areas outside of military installations tends to be kind of rough around the edges.   In Knoxville Magnolia and about two blocks on either side of it are rough areas. I drive down it every time I go to town and never had an issue. We play the "Is she a hooker?" game as we go. I have been caught down there a time or two after dark and it is a very scary place to be.

Go to Bill's Outpost in Alcoa.  UPS usually delivers by noon and they usually have the whatever in their books by the time you get there.  They're also happy to do it.   They also have a massive selection of very, very well priced guns.  Better than any in Knoxville.  You might check there before ordering anything online as their prices are very competive.

I think it's a conspiracy to make Obama not look weak and stupid. They failed.

You notice we're talking about this, and not the IRS, NSA, ATF, Justice Dept., Benghazi, EPA granting special favors to friends, etc.?

I simply can't fathom someone not knowing where all their firearms are at any given time. This sort of 'honest mistake' is merely carelessness.   And no, not everyone here would make this lame-brained mistake.

If I were in your shoes I would be looking for a used commercial walk behind in 48" or 54" with a Velke(That's what you ride on.)  Used to run 2 54"ers when I had my lawn care business.  They are every bit as fast to mow with and turn as a zero turn, plus you don't get swamp butt sitting in that seat.  You can pick up a decent servicable used one for about $1500.

So one of the benefits of our previous vendor falling through at the last minute, is that one of our very own members and sponsors offered to step in and fill the void. Jeff Cross, the owner of CMT Tactical has offered to do the lowers for us with a huge bonus of being manufactured right here in TN. We've still got a little work to do to get the buy together, but I thought I would post some of the design renderings that he's sent us. These will be 7075 billet lowers with a custom engraved TGO logo on the magazine well and a TGO specific run of serial numbers. I can say that for automation purposes, these will be a set run of serial numbers. The logo will be machined - not laser engraved - before they're anodized, so anyone who decides to Cerakote later won't have to worry about covering up the markings. One of the things that we're trying to get squared away is a matching upper option to go with the lower. Of course, Jeff makes a great upper receiver, and he mentioned putting together a package for those who are interested. I'll put up a poll in a bit to gauge interest, but in the meantime, enjoy:

Would be absolutely awesome!   Let me know if anyone finds some :)

Well, we did decimate al Qaeda in Afghanistan; they are no longer using it as a base of operations and their relationship with the Taliban is non-existent to any significant degree. The problem is we decided to "nation build" and get involved in the war with the Taliban. That is the reason we can't get out, because you can't polish a turd and we can't definitively destroy an idea; especially since we can't go into Waziristan. It's never just the tip.

  Which is why the subject of this thread, and the good ole KA-BAR use 1095

  Sure :) Get video!

I would get one because they are a lot less costly then the fines you may receive........JMHO

Lol - you win the internets for the day!

Dogs don't know what cars are. Dogs left to roam the streets and get hit by cars have abusive care takers.

That's good that I have your permissin.I have an almost compulsive inability to ignore something in need of ridicule, and I appreciate your support of me in that endeavor. :D

If Obama can give out wholesale waivers to Congress and their aides, certain businesses and other groups, it's not a stretch to believe he wouldn't grant one to Muslims no matter what you call it.  The Obamacare law is filled with clauses which gives Secretary Sabelius a golden scepter to rule as she sees fit.

    No, it's a valid comparison.  Both are with regards to rights granted to us by our Creator, codified by the Constitution and under attack by the government and the citizens who support the attack.   The only difference is that you are in support of restricting one right and not the other.  I can only imagine you justify it to yourself by insisting that them apples are really apples and oranges.

  The highways do not belong to the State, they are Public Thoroughfares and belong to every citizen. 

Greg:  Mike's idea here aint a bad one... I'm an older coot and it seems to me that one time there wuz a wildcat cartridge that wuz essentially a 223 necked up to  6mm.   It may be called the 6 mm by 45.  Here is some poop from Chuck Hawks re: this idea:  http://www.chuckhawks.com/6mm_military_cartridge.htm   There's lots of gibberish in this article but the idea in included in the content if ya dig a bit.    I like the idea of usin the 223 brass because ya can find it very cheaply; but it requires ya to reload.  There is also the extra work of resizin and formin the brass; but the feed material is readily available.   I think a 6 mm X 223 would be a helluva custom bolt gun; very akin to  mikes idea of the 6 mmBR gun...     Ya might want to look at just a plain jayne 223 bolt gun.   We've got a 1 in 12 twist bolt gun that will shoot all day long at 100yds; and ya can lay a dime over a 5 shot group (...if ya do your part...) and there is no wind.  I suspect the fast twist 22's will shoot a longer (...heavier...) bullet (....75, grain, 77 grain, 80 grain...) longer and just as well; and a 223 sure aint gonna wear out any barrel throats.    Remember, the 243 is just a necked down 308.... Tnat's why they tend to wash the barrel throats out.    As i remember, the most liked 243 bullet is an 87 grainer.  It aint far from a 77 grain 223 to an 87 grain 243...  A wildcat 223 by 6 mm would get ya there too... And, i think at least, would be a helluva shooter... .   Random musings from an old coot .... Have fun.   leroy

I see you've been to Clarksville. You named every street we have, and most in the areas I mentioned. Damn your good!   DaveS

So please tell us what jobs you have had that makes you so all knowing. 

I've been in Memphis over 50 years without being shot, cut or robbed.  However, it I were to be some areas and have a flat, I'd keep driving.  A new rim and tire are inexpensive compared to a trip to the Med Emergency Room.

Just another one of those many,many lies.

I too anxiously await the answer to see which logical fallacy will be used next while declaring that is is totally different than the exact same argument the Brady Bunch use in their efforts. At this point it is just plain funny.

Please consider a fence or other restraint. I'll not get in to a big discussion on this but it's better for your dog and better for the people using property adjoining yours and ultimately, better for you.

I think the reasoning here is " If we can't stop the scalpers from screwing people dumb enough to pay their prices we should screw everyone to make up for it" :wall:

Or we could just reduce the size of government and government regulation to make up the difference?  The reason businesses are moving off shore isn't because of the labor cost...  The labor cost in most products is a tiny fraction of the cost, in most cases it's cheaper to do business overseas and ship the products into the country than it is to do business inside the US.   And US business taxes are a large chunk of that, you look at some countries that have a 11% tax on business income, and the US has a 35% tax...  There is most of that 20% you're looking for right there.    

The magazine is likely dragging very slightly on the bottom of the bolt. Take a sharpie and mark the top of the magazine and shoot it. If any part of the sharpie is rubbed off then take some sandpaper or a file and remove a little where it is rubbing. And when it rubs it slows the bolt down enough to keep thd bolt from closing all the way with that ammo. The ammo is slowing it down a little too with the lead bullet. And after the magazine mod I would also polish the chamber. Remove the barrel. Then take a cloth bore mop for a .25-.27 caliber and chuck it in a drill. Put some metal polish, like Flitz, on the mop. Insert it into the chamber and spin it up. Go in and out, while spinning, for about 30 seconds to a minute.

I wish I had so many guns that I couldn't remember where they were at all times. Maybe one day...

  I'm with you on this one. 

Don't drive if you've been drinking!

Picked up a BG380 today at NA. Shot it. Love it. Satisfied. Laser not needed. It point shoots beautifully. Trigger is DAO, long, and feels just right. Center-of-mass, rapid fire at 3-5 yards was not just a breeze; it was a joy. This trigger (for me) has no tendency to short stroke. In contrast, I had some trouble NOT short stroking the LCP trigger. If anything changes, I'll let you all know, but for now, this seems to be one great little last-resort life-saver.** **. I know, I know .380. Here's hoping it never, ever gets put to the test.