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Lord thank you for another day, Please look after us, all the ones need you and the ones dont think they do. Thank you Lord for another day.   I say this every day, some times more than once.

" If you like your current gun, you can keep it. Obama-gun will save you $2400.00/year. There will be a website where you can register your gun."   Found that quote from someone on the NRA Facebook feed.    Obama/Holder & Co. already know that gun control efforts failed in the Senate last year and gun grabbing Democrats in tight races for re-elections are distancing themselves from the issue.    What I raise, if guns can't be dealt with in Congress, then the Executive branch and use the regulation powers via executive order to get what they want.    Mark my words, that on Wednesday, Nov, 5th, this Holder talk will turn into more action with the pen and phone. 

I got lucky and grabbed a box of the chisel points before they were banned and stood in line at the supply closet for 3 hours to nab the last 2 bulk packs of standard staples. :rofl:

I'll be honest, these guys make a few items that I REALLY want.   http://www.millerbrosblades.com/Items_For_Sale.html

Had big fun Saturday morning. Dickson county gobbler. Big fun.

The Battle at Fort Pillow was a black day for Nathan Bedford Forest and his cavalry. If you look this battle up on Wikipedia or other internet sites, you will not get the whole story. I have no doubt that Union soldiers were murdered that day, black and white alike, but the story goes deeper than that. There is an excellent article in Military Heritage magazine (January 2014) about this debacle at Fort Pillow. The Union commander of the fort was of dubious character. He made the town a Jackson pay him $5,000, not to burn the town. There is a suggestion that Fort Pillow was nothing more than a hideout for looters, thieves, carpetbaggers and scoundrels. Forest and his men were getting many reports from local civilians of terrible deeds perpetrated by the garrison at the fort. There were also around 100 confederate deserters at the fort. When Forest moved on this fort, his men were already mad, yet there is no evidence to suggest they attacked to fort with any intention committing a massacre. This battle was one giant clusterflop from the very beginning. This contributed more to what happened than racism and hatred. The standard procedure for surrendering a fort was to lower the flag. It was never lowered. The commander of the fort was shot and killed at the beginning of the battle and the Union command structure broke down. Some men were surrendering while others were still fighting. Some groups of men who had surrendered changed their minds and started fighting again. It was chaos. This did more to spark the massacre than the hatred of black soldiers, deserters and East Tennessee Unionists. The sad part is that this could probably have been avoided if this chain of events had been broken some how.

  Naw... you didn't just say that, right? They're just talking about doing what kentucky has done for as long as I can remember.

I'm orginally a WV boy. My sister found this pup abandoned on top of a mountain back in WV. (I would love to find out who did this to him) He was in rough shape- broken leg, head injury, skin infections, malnourished of course, ect. Decided to take him to the vet and have them take care of what ever the little boy needed. After a few days at the vet he was in much better shape and my sister took him home to recoup. Had every intention of finding him a good home with someone who'd take care of him. My sister sent me a pic of him tonight and I don't think I can let him go to another home because I know I can give him one he deserves. A big thanks to my sister for what she's done for him. Say hi to my soon to be kinda furry pal Deuce. I think he'll like Tennessee. Before/After 5 days at the vet Tonight- 2 weeks later

A quick update. It's been one month since Roscoe (his name is Roscoe now) was found and taken in. Hard to believe just how far he has come. He's still in WV with my sister due to having to go to the vet weekly for the leg break. The vet there has been great. I'm going up in a couple days to hopefully finally bring him to TN.....if my sister lets me. March 7th April 8th....I LOVE this picture.

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Thanks DCritter, gunlobbyist, Knife Rights and the guys on here for calling and emailing.  Excited to not be limited by antiquated length requirements.

So, can you work on a few gun bills for us?

Fingers crossed gents...   edit: WOOOOO-HOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thank you gunlobbyist and capbyrd for all the updates!

Same thing as thread on Van Huss HB2409/Beavers SB2424, Harwell gave orders to roll to last committee day even though Van Huss was there to present, effectively killing the bill.  If it wound up on the floor for consideration it would have passed like in the Senate 25-2, can't have that from the supposed conservative supermajority.

I’ve never worked in the industry but I think this could work.   The math:  I think the keys would be making sure the returned firearms (of which I suspect there would be few) are accepted back in as new condition and the fact that you’d be offering store credit as opposed to a cash refund.  My understanding is that mark up on firearms is probably closer to 20% but I’m gonna say 25% just to make the math easier.  You sell a $500 gun (in which you have $400) and it is returned in as new condition.  You sell that gun for $450 for a $50 profit.  Whatever happy customer purchases with his store credit will have your profit margin built in.  Thus, why store credit is one of the keys.  I understand that you’re ultimately accepting a lower profit margin on that gun but would suggest that you may actually improve your bottom line.  A friend of mine is one of the best retail sales people I know.  He is absolutely as honest as they come but he understands that if you are dealing with a replaceable good sacrificing profit margin for bottom line often pays off long term.  My friend is one of the best I’ve seen at making sure that customers get to spend all the money they want.  If a customer comes in with $100 to spend and he only has $40 worth of that product (in which my friend has $20 being in a keystone markup business) my friend will offer to sell them $120 worth of a comparable product for $100.  He’s willing to do this because he understands that $40 minus $20 equals $20 and $100 minus $60 equals $40 and $40 is more than $20.   The psychology:  I still believe the percentage of returns would be low in this scenario and I think the psychological edge of such a policy might well outweigh the reduced profit margin on the returned items.  Here’s the scenario:  potential gun buyer is on the fence on plopping down the hard earned Benjamins for a gun he’s not quite sure he’ll like.  Maybe this generous return policy pushes him over the edge.  From the few responses I read before composing this missive it appeared there might be some interest from those assembled here in doing business with an establishment with such a policy.  Potential boost in customer loyalty methinks.  Some might even being willing to pay at least some small premium to do business with such an establishment.   My $0.02.  

I'd like to se him in bracelets. Prison Bracelets!

Haven't seen it before but that would certainly be worth enough to get me to consider buying more guns locally vs online even at a slightly higher price.

I'm in the same boat, though my pocket has a small flashlight and my SAK cadet my primary weapon when at my desk is a vintage Swingline 747. (they sure don't make them like they used to) It may not be a technically be a "weapon" but I'm fairly certain I could bludgeon someone to death with it if need be.

Holder is the "gift that just keeps on giving"; he never disappoints... There's no sentiment for this idiotic idea, except among the "children of the forest" that believe this silliness and the insider business groups that want to harvest the dollars for "exploring this common sense idea"... HEHEHE... If Eric Holder was a white guy he would already have been fired and his boss impeached...   Remember, there is an election in a few months... Vote early and often... The "children of the forest" will...   Votin leroy

All non-firearms political / currnet events threads now belong in the Hive of Scum and Villainy forum [LINK].  This forum, the 2nd Amendment Current Events and Politics forum, is solely for the use of discussing firearms related political issues and newsworthy stories.   Things you should know:   Regarding "Cop Bashing", unless it happened in Tennessee I don't want it posted here.  Period.  Post that crap somewhere else.   The Hive of Scum and Villainy no longer shows up on searches for new threads.  Why?  Because I really could care less.  This is a firearms forum and firearms issues (Glock vs. 1911) are volatile and divisive enough to a community such as ours.  If you want to wallow in the mud and argue about politics that don't relate to firearms, then you can make the manual effort to visit that forum and see what's new.  Bad news is everywhere; I don't care to see it popping up in my TGO news feed and many other members likely agree.     That's all.  Please keep our forum clean by ensuring new threads regarding either of these topics get posted in the appropriate forum.  

the dragon, skyway and hellbender are some of the best roads in the area.  lots of other great no name roads around too.  it is a great place to lose yourself on a weekend while on two wheels.  next long ride will be the moonshiner 28.  it looks to be around 109 miles one way ride. 

  Yep.  I don't approve of entrapment as a manner of policing.  It is creating a crime where a crime might not otherwise exist.    Beyond the lazy police work that entrapment is, this whole thing smacks of morality enforcement, which I have an equal issue with.  The police went online and solicited sex in exchange for money, then arrested those who agreed to those terms, then made a point to release the story to the press complete with pictures in order to publicly shame them.  If prostitution is such a crime, why not go after actual prostitutes and pimps?

Not if you know how to handle your chosen machine. But I get what you are saying and I agree. I have been running the Dragon for nearly two decades. I have driven stock family cars, trucks, sports cars and purpose built performance care. It makes my blood boil when I see anyone, cager, biker, trucker, cop, cyclist, etc.. who can't stay in their own lane. I can run it and never touch mayonnaise or mustard.

I don't understand the problem? A store is free to do with their inventory as they like, I don't think anyone here would dispute that. The flip side to the coin is that we're free to talk about it. If a store makes its own bed, they have to lay in it. As far as us sitting around bitching about it, as a retail manager I wish there was an online forum full of my potential/former/current local customers telling me what they don't like about my store.

One point we seem to forget is that when a bad guy is determined to be bad he is going to take out any threat first this could be an OC.  I will never show my cards.

The more the sheep see OC, the less they'll go baaaaah.

  The part I put in bold is the important part here, in my not-so-humble opinion. Both the left and the right, Democrats and Republicans, want THEIR morals enforced by the government, but damn you if you try and reverse it on them.      You are making the argument for capitalism, but then complaining when people practice it. In truth, if two people agree on a price and neither is coerced or forced to enter into the agreement, how can that possibly be classified as gouging? There is not a product in the world (that is not priced controlled through the government) that isn't sold for what the market will bear. Because someone will charge less than what the market will bear doesn't make them a saint. And because someone does charge what the market will bear doesn't make them the devil. In fact, there are often other factors at play that affect the cost of doing business, and therefore the price of the commodity.      Bravo!     How is one guy screwing his customer? By asking a price that the customer is willing to pay? Seems to me it takes two to tango.    Or is he forcing anyone who walks in through the doors to buy his ammo at the "inflated" price? That would be a different scenario altogether. 

I will have to admit this has been an enlightening discussion and a lot of peoples views have been expressed. Let me tell this to everyone because I realize that many have said many different things about homosexuals and or gays and I respect each ones feelings.       About 5 years ago I had a grandson come to me with a problem that he didn't feel he could talk to his mother and father about. He was having difficulty with his sexuality feelings. He had dated while in High School some but never quite felt comfortable around girls. So when old enough he secretly be began going to a gay bar and said he felt more comfortable there than in a regular bar. He ended up dating a few males and was even more confused because after that he was more uncomfortable. So he came to me for help. I was caught totally off guard. That is just not something you ever expect to be faced with discussing especially when he knew how strong willed I am about those type issues. He began to weep as he knew it was something he was not proud of yet so confused about. I finally asked him to stop weeping and handed him a box of tissues. I said son, your 22 years old and still have a long life ahead of you. Maybe your pushing yourself to hard in to many different directions all at once. If your not comfortable with either sex right now then put that on hold and begin to set other goals for yourself in life. I asked him if he liked his job and he said no. I asked him if there was a job he did like in his past and he said yes. I asked him what it was and he said busing tables and being a waiter. I told him to find a job doing one of those and put every bit of effort into that and see what happens. I also handed him his Grandmothers bible and I told him to read a little bit when he found time. He found a job as a waiter at an Ol'Charlie's about two weeks later. He also began reading his grandmothers bible when time permitted. Today he is a totally different young man today. Knows exactly where his life is going. He has been asst Manager of that Ol'Charlies now for almost a  year after his manager put him through their management program. He brought his Fiance' over to visit about two months ago and will marry her in June. He asked me to be best man at the wedding. Now with that said. Was I upset after he left? Yes and No. Did I still love him knowing what he had just told me? Yes because he is my grandson. Did I lay awake that night wondering if he would make it to where he wanted and needed to be? Of course I did but I knew I had done all I could do and I put it in GODS hands and said a special prayer before I went to sleep that night. Now did I ask myself could I still love him if he came to me and just told me that he was gay? In all honesty I gave that a lot of thought because in the back of my mind I knew that someday he may come and tell me he is because of how he felt about his life. I made up my mind after a lot of thought and Yes I would still love him and yes I would respect his decision. Would I have liked it. Probably not but he would have never known it. Now with that said. I don't know if anyone here has ever been faced with a similar situation and it is none of my business but I wanted to share my thoughts and feelings about the issue.    As far as Disney and what they choose to do. They are a business just like any other and if I don't agree with their views I don't have to spend my money purchasing anything they are selling or spending money at one of their parks. It is just like businesses post GUN FREE. I don't give them my money either...................jmho. 

So now I can not get three boxes of .22 instead of not getting only one.   - OS

Overall a mediocre season, but the last ten minutes sure knew how to set up the last season pretty nicely.

Don't worry about it. We would be the 31st state to allow it. Dodge City and Tombstone haven't been in the news lately. http://www.opencarry.org/?page_id=103

That means that if we carry concealed we have to pay for that privilege but a legal gun owner does not have to pay for the privilege to carry openly......... :stunned:  :stunned:  :stunned:  No classes required and no professional classes on proper gun handling and safety. Just strap it on and go for it if you can legally own it. Sounds like someone may have finally figure out just what the 2nd Amendment really means but it also might make us look like Dodge City Kansas or Tombstone Arizona back in the 1870's too................. :hiding: :hiding:

Alright, met a friend of my brother in-law with land that is taking me to get gobblers. Hopefully the luck or in you gentle men's case skill is with me. It will be evening hunt so I'll report as to what happens and these pics/tips are keeping me motivated.

Haslam signed and now all we have to do is wait for it to go into effect!   http://wapp.capitol.tn.gov/apps/BillInfo/Default.aspx?BillNumber=SB1771

  Sundays are the only excluded days.     From the legislature's website.  http://www.capitol.tn.gov/about/billtolaw.html   SIGNED BY GOVERNOR The Governor may sign the bill; veto it; or allow it to become law without his signature. The Governor is allowed ten days (Sundays excepted) after a bill is presented to him to approve or veto the bill; if he takes no action within that period, the bill becomes a law without his signature. The Governor also has constitutional authority to reduce or disapprove any sum of money appropriated in any bill while approving other portions of such bill. If the Legislature is still in session, the Governor returns all bills and joint resolutions to the house of origin after he has taken action. After adjournment of the General Assembly, bills are returned by the Governor to the Office of the Secretary of State. If the Governor has vetoed a bill or reduced or disapproved an appropriation within a bill, the veto can be overridden, or reduced or disapproved sums of money restored, by a majority vote of the membership to which each body is entitled under the Constitution.

True enough, though nothing is a sure thing in politics and women.

I own a defensive shotgun (870 tactical with no cool bolt-ons) and this post has sound advice and good information for a old(er) dog like me.   Prag - great article, thanks for the link. What jumped out at me was, "inside of 20 yards, 00 is king" For all you on the metric system, that's 60 FEET and closer so unless you've got an MTV crib, 00 seems to be the optimal loading for a defensive 12ga.   My advice would be to shoot a 12ga before you buy. You may be unpleasantly suprised and consider the blast, noise, recoil if  you ever had to discharge it in your home on a dark and cloudy night or at 3am.   I have HEARD but not verified that a 20ga could be a viable option, 50% of the recoil for 75% of the effect.   While a shotgun was my first choice for a HD weapon in retrospect, it wouldn't be my first choice as a HD weapon

  I vote flat-footed.......   ......, only because the phrase, "Can't walk & crew gum at the same time" applies to most of us when loading a shotgun on the move!    :panic:  

The Union commander of the fort called himself Major Booth but his real name was George H. Lanning. He had to change his name and flee Iowa because his own family wanted him dead. General Sherman had ordered that Fort Pillow be abandoned, but it such a nice hideout for Booth's smuggling operation that Booth occupied it anyway. Booth was able to move his loot up the Mississippi from Fort Pillow. SCALLYWAGS I SAY! Forest told the fort's commander during a truce that he would give quarter to all who surrendered, black and white. They turned him down. During the truce, black artillery men on the fort's parapets began talking trash to the southern boys. Major Booth had promised them that the fort could not be taken. This further enraged the Confederates. By 1864, Forests men had seen more blood spilled than most, they had been in ferocious hand to hand fighting, usually outnumbered. Forest had never lost a battle when he was in charge of all the southern troops. His tactics were totally unorthodox. Erwin Rommel studied Forest....

Funny, I don't see any examples from the judgmental crowd on here where they turned down money while selling something. That doesn't mean that it hasn't happened, but subjective is subjective after all. That is the entire rub here. Brining up elderly or disabled to try and make a point is weak IMHO. We aren't talking about deceit here; we are talking about a willing buyer for a willing seller.

Legalize, license the provider (including strict as reasonably enforceable medical checks),  decriminalize the john, and hit it with the sin tax .  Increase criminal penalty for doing it off the books.   Prostitutes and customers are better off,  the cops can still bust unlicensed providers, gummit coffers are greased, and moralists are perfectly free to rant and protest as usual, even the ones that sample the services. :)   - OS

They have a great location and lots of inventory. Some of the guys there have been fairly cool, but I think that everyone I've ever spoke with there has been either condescending or flat rude at some point. It's too bad because that's the one gun shop I WANT to like but just can't. :shrug:

You can do it if you only run the speed limit.

  I know what they say about assuming and assumptions but we all do it, we kind of have to from time to time. If I was a LEO, I would probably assume that anyone carrying openly holstered in a public place has a HCP. I know many criminals are morons but even that would be a stupid move for them, besides bad guys are already making their move when they display their gun, not just eating at some restaurant. Alot of people probably notice, they just don't say anything and assume you have a permit. If you OC long enough you will probably run into some rabid leftest anti that's going to call you names and accuse you of killing babies.

This sort of thing was actually brought up during debate on the bill. IIRC, as stated during the debate and as has been opined here on the board the passage of this law would also legalize the carrying of a sword if one was so inclined. There is no separate statute that prohibits the carrying of a sword and no legal distinction in the TCA that says >x" = sword, < x" = knife. The current statute covered all of that with the prohibition of carrying anything >4" so with the removal of that prohibition it is all fair game. Like I mentioned before, I am pretty sure I know some Japanophile nerds that are going to strap on their katanas and go for a walk after July 1. Whether they should or not is a spearate question that I am not addressing, only that once this becomes law, they can.

It's all about ethics.  If I chose not to shop somewhere because they are gouging customers it's not because I'm protesting capitalism, it's because I'm protesting that business owner being a d***.  He has the right to screw his customers and his customers have the right to shop elsewhere.    

Didn't see the thread you referenced, but I think sensitivities are really up with regards to 22 ammo. Nobody likes to be taken advantage of, and a lot of people feel that is what is happening with it. You hit the nail on the head, too high, don't buy. Otherwise it will continue. These guys who are gouging continue to do so because someone is paying their prices.

Here's my current Rossi M92 .357 that my dad hand engraved the receiver. Also did some of Steve's Gunz action work. It is slick, fast, and light. Fantastic gun! Close up of the Reciever: other side - Picture makes it look a little blurred but trst me it's pristine:

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