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Without knowing the entire story behind everything going on, nor caring to, I personally started feeling like his posts were going towards "everything I say is right, and if you disagree, you're wrong" kind of thing.   As far as knowing the specifics of whatever happened, this is a privately owned board and I don't think we have a right to know anything that happens on the backend.

We've never banned anyone without having a very good reason for doing so.  A person would be wise not to serve as a "medium" for our departed members by posting their nonsense on our forum in their stead.

Off to buy some milk, bread and eggs incase it is really, really bad this time. :)

Popcorn made, feet up! Let 'er rip!

  Sometime in early/mid '60's, the Playboy mag college fun rankings had an asterisk in the drinking category for UTK.  Below, the asterisk was " professionals not ranked with amateurs in this category" :)   - OS

Nice trade!

  These are not normal operation.  You should not have it at half cocked because it is a full cocked safety on gun.  I have never had mine at half cocked and loaded; maybe when cleaning it but it was unloaded then.   Yes, it WILL drop the hammer from 1/2 cock & trigger pull.  I just checked mine. Dunno if it has enough oomph to fire, or if it is blocked.  I can try to fire it next week from that state if people really care that much.   But why would it ever be at 1/2 ???   Yes, it DOES strip a round off the mag if you mess with the slide.  Its really simple.  Rack it one time (or close the slide on a fresh mag), put the safety on, and it will work. Mess with it, and it may not.  Sometimes dropping the mag when not empty strips a round and both mag and loose round fall out of it.  This is normally a non-issue; if you did a tactical reload it might lose you a round on the removed mag.   This has never interfered with operation for me.  Not once.  But I shoot it empty and reload from there....   The actually aggravating issue is that the grips like to come unscrewed when shooting.  Locktite solves that one, but it should not need it.   Patton -- it may be visually difficult to see if the safety is on but it has a positive click into place and can easily be mechanically verified (take it off, put it back on, feel the click, its safe).  I have not ever had it slip into "fire" while carrying over a long time -- had one since the first shipment hit the stores and carried it not long after that (verification process).   I usually ignore safeties but on a cocked pistol, I take it seriously.   I have tested it enough and cannot find a safety failure condition, nor have I had one.  It does its job.   BTW I see you are near chatt... if you are down this way you can shoot mine to test it out if you like.   Same for ladyhay if practical tn is a big place...

Tornadoes are just a fact of life in the South.  If you move down here don't live in a trailer, they are magnets for twisters.

We got on birds this morning and got a strutter in front of us, way out. He finally got led off by a hen. My buddy went back this afternoon and killed him. 

Most people want something powerful, reliable, and intimidating for their first handgun.  This is a bad idea for a LOT of reasons.  Your first handgun should always be a .22lr.   1)  Bad habits learned with your first handgun are very difficult to un-learn.  Flinching, bad hand position, anticipating recoil, and lots of other bad habits are usually the result of buying a full-power handgun first. 2)  Accuracy and good habits are formed with practice.  The best shooters in the world go through thousands of rounds each MONTH!  While I'm not suggesting that every shooter needs to do this, I am saying that a new shooter needs to be prepared to go through more than a couple of boxes and  to learn to shoot properly.  That costs money.  You are much less likely to develop 'wallet-flinch' when buying .22 than when buying 9mm.  And you are more likely to be willing to buy a decent amount of ammo, rather than just a box or two. 3)  If you are asking what gun to get, it means that you really don't yet know what you like or dislike.  Buy the .22 first, and that will let you develop opinions based on experience.  There is a reason that there are hundreds of handgun models on the market.  Not everyone likes the same things.  Use a .22 to learn at a much lower cost. 4)  Get training.  Sure, I know that you and your buddies have been reducing beer cans to aluminum trash for years.  Not even close to being useful.  You've learned bad habits.  Get a basic pistol course.  Pretend that you've never held a pistol before so that you'll actually listen.  Women usually do better than men in basic pistol courses because they don't ASSUME that they know anything.  Training with a .22 is every bit as useful as training with a larger caliber. 5)  Repeat #2 above.  I no longer compete.  But I still go through over 1000rds of .22 and 9mm each month to keep my skills from deteriorating too fast.  I shoot mostly .22 as you use the exact same skills for less than a fourth of the cost. 6)  There is almost nothing that you can do with a larger caliber that you can't do with a .22.  Aside from hunting larger critters, the .22 is a remarkably versatile round.  And several hits with a .22 are much more useful for self-defense than any number of misses.  A .22 is used for home defense about as often as all other calibers combined. 7)  You never outgrow a .22.  If you decide to pass on the shooting sport to friends and family, you will want a .22 to get them started.   Lastly, buy quality.  Cheap guns wear out more quickly and aren't as accurate or reliable.  There are a lot of choices for quality, reliable, and accurate .22 pistols in the $300 range. 

Just couldn't resist posting 2014 FJ cruiser

Got the call Monday that my 2 stamp MP5 came in!! Only took 8.5mo on a trust. Just a few weeks before that my other stamp came in (10mo) for my vector sp89. Got it engraved and Cerakoted, now for the pix!

Good many folks on Arfcom pistol forum like the KAK "Flash Can". Low cost and seems to throw the sound downrange quite well and reduce the fireball significantly according to reports   Two versions, regular and slim:   http://www.kakindustry.com/kak-industry-flash-can-m14x1-0lh     http://www.kakindustry.com/ar-15-parts/kak-industry-slim-flash-can     - OS

I decided to skip it yesterday. As I already mentioned, it a 3 1/2 hour drive for me so I was debating about it.  But today the weather forcast called for rain all day, so I figured what the hell and jumped in the truck. Overall, not a bad show. Certianly much better than the pitiful excuse they call a gun show here. I'd say its about equal to the Jackson show I go to regularly. Being such a long drive for me, I'm not sure if I'll go again. On the bright side, I did come home with a used Springfield Ultra Compact at a good price.  :up:

I have the MAS 2 piece Krinkov. I like it a lot.

I've got both and like both but the M&P is similar in size to my other Ruger SR9 and I find that helps with my shooting skills.

SR22. (Now, I'm NOT an M&P guy. I hate all their triggers. Feels like a piece of broken plastic to me.)

Very happy with my SR22. Also very happy with my MkIII. My SP101 in 22lr. has been a consistent winner. I looked at a M&P22 as I have an love an M&P9. It was a nice little pistol. Has some nice features/options. Threaded barrel and some decent capacity magazines. Trigger was pretty ok out of the box as I recall, but nothing memorable. I liked it, ended up buying a MKIII 22/45Lite instead. If I were to recommend any one rimfire pistol it would actually be the MKIII or 22/45 if you prefer the grip angle. The SP101 in 22 would also be a great choice given your GP100. Any of those 3 will outlast the youngest shooter, be an accurate all around handy gun, and provide reliable pleasure and practice for many, many years.

Never shot the M&P22, but the Ruger SR22 has been very reliable for me. I bought it for my daughter, but you know who shoot it more often. It's plenty enough accurate too.

I just got rid of my SR22.  Years ago I had a Walther P22 (sold it years ago due to financial hardships) and it, in my opinion, was a vastly superior gun.  Maybe I got an SR22 that was less than exemplary... it had a lot of internal rough edges, and quite often would not chamber the second round from the magazine.    I bought the SR22 instead of another P22 because I wanted to try this new Ruger that everyone was raving about.  I am a bona-fide S&W M&P addict (currently have four) and thought about the M&P22 for precisely the reason you stated; to practice with the same platform I shoot normally.  Then I realized I have a bunch of different guns!  Trigger discipline and sight alignment are pretty similar across the firearm field.  I like small 22s, so I decided against the M&P22.  The 12 round capacity of the M&P22 is cool, though.    If I had it to do all over again, I'd get another P22... and in another month or two, I probably will!   I know everyone's tastes and experience are different and that's cool.  This is simply my experience.

  I'm going to go get a case of beer and hope the rain does good for my garden.   Stay dry everyone! :leaving:

The weatherman play on people's fears. Yes the storms could be bad, but there is no reason to be afraid. Instead we should be prepared. (Like putting the jeep inside). Be safe my friends! Sent barefoot from the hills of Tennessee

I would steer clear of any used gift card unless you know and trust the person you are getting it from.  I spent several years in loss prevention and in that time I spent a good deal of time messing with gift card fraud.  I remember one circumstance where we canceled a gift card after a thief stole merchandise and then returned it.  The customer then pawned the gift card and it was purchased by an elderly lady.  That old lady was pretty upset that she had spent something like $250 for a $400 gift card that was no good. Thing is you have zero recourse if you buy a bogus card.  If you decide to buy one anyway, meet the seller at the store, have the store tell you the amount on the card then use the card immediately. 

Even at the current inflated prices, .22 ammo is still half of the cost of centerfire ammo.  Lower price equals more shooting.  But I see a lot more .22 coming on the market lately.  Prices will start falling and you will eventually see it at Walmart again.

  I'm usually a room-temperature whiskey sort of guy, but a friend gave me some Whiskey Stones a while back and I use them periodically.  They work great!

One important skill you'll learn with a .22, is searching for reasonably priced ammo.  This weekend I shot more 9mm, 45 acp, 44 mag and 5.56 than .22. 

I caught up w David and Ken Arnold picked up an ace skeleton stock and chamber flags and boogied to the range. Saw a tavor for 1600 and a sig 716 for 1860 also saw a keltec shotgun for 800...and..... ZAP woman snapping away Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 of course it ate my spelling.

  It's merely redundant . . .

Not a great photo, but here I am wearing a custom Glock 27 holster he made. I am several miles underground in a cave putting this thing through the wringer. Worked perfect!! Sent barefoot from the hills of Tennessee

Gift cards are as good as cash in many cases. When I need to build up my gas points at Kroger I will buy several cards to be used at places like Logan's or Cracker barrel. I get double fuel points depending on the amount and then sometimes down the road I will use the cards to eat out with friends. i have even bought Lowes cards a few times because I have a few buddies that do remodeling jobs and they will buy them from me because they are going to have to buy stuff at Lowes anyway to do the work. All, help me build fuel points and with gasoline prices going up everyday the 50 and sometimes up to a dollar off a gallon can really help....jmho

Heres a couple of things he has made for me. 1911 holster built to my spec Small edc knife sheath Tapatalk ate my spelling

I bought a p7 m8 and a vp70 bouth like new still in the box imo the p7m8 is the finest 9mm handgun ever made the vp70 is too big to carry but 20 shots is a nice gun to put in your boat thanks to all the tgo folks that stopped by yesterday

  18 USC/921-922 only addresses the standard for selling without a license -- buying any quantity without a license is not unlawful, but yeah, I guess they could always try to put a NFA firearm in your hand, and I suppose x number would fall for it.   - OS

I smell Godfather next ! :) But I want a silver slicer this time , no black on the blade please.

It's absolutely nuthin' fancy! I wanted to build the most basic, cheap, light AR I could using the extra BCG from the TGO group buy. A few years ago I bought some poly lowers right before that last big gun control push... ya know... in case. I was poor, hence the poly vs aluminum lowers. AAAnywho, I had this stuff in a drawer under a mountain of PMAGS and when PSA ran a really good deal on their PTAC cheapie uppers I jumped on one. It took about 2.5 weeks to ship, got it today. The upper was minus BCG, CH, and rear sight. I WAS gunna buy the cheapest things I could find, but it seemed like all the cheap stuff was out of stock at every site. :yuck: Some of you may remember my shameless solicitation in the gear classifieds looking for these parts. I want to thank Ted S., Luke E, and TripleDigitRide for being SSOOOO generous with their time and parts bins! There were more who offered help as well, and I'm grateful for all of you. I had a goal of building an AR for $400, and it wouldn't have been possible without you. These guys are why TGO is so awesome... the community and willingness to help/share is simply unbelievable. (Side note, I've had a magazine for a .40 Sigma/SD listed in the Pay-It-Forward thread for weeks! Somebody claim it!) Only goof I made in execution here was not noticing that this is a heavy barrel upper, not the lightweight profile. :ugh: With the poly lower, it's a bit forward-heavy. Oh well. I'm alright with it for the price! I haven't shot it yet. Mebbe this weekend! :pleased: The only thing I really wanna change is the grip. I'm hoping to find a good deal on a Hogue rubber grip at the fun show in Mboro this weekend. Not much to look at, but here it is!

Now you need to invest in some new TGO and Zombie Hunting Permit stickers.    Also get some mud on the tires.   Glad you are happy.

The person who pays the bills makes the rules. Go ask that person for permission, not an internet group. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

I'd suggest saving that money for your own place to live. Then you don't have to worry about what everyone else thinks.

Not challenging but why get another pet if the people youre living with wont like it from the get go? not fair to the pet or your other dog at all, or you...Pets give unconditional love and ask for love,Dachshunds are a breed to their own, and aren't the best dogs to be left alone. My sisters had 3 of em....Your family may get really really disturbed if you bring something home that will be not liked by the majority..........just sayin

I just can't believe the little turd wouldn't treat a veteran with more respect.

  Sounds like a backwoods version of turkish coffee. :)   quite popular at civil war encampments, too.

Simple answer:  "If someone holds a knife to your Wife's/Daughter's throat and hauls her into a back alley to rape and possibly kill them, would you rather I had my pistol or a cell phone?"

A solution in search of a problem. 

Thanks for posting that graphic.  I saw these in the GearHog email this morning and had no idea what they were, but didn't care enough to go look it up.   Proof that some people will spend more money if you'll just show them how.

  Correct as to how the Federal legal system works in the aspect of case law.  If it were to be precedent set by the 10th Court of Appeals, the precedent would still not be followed as law in TN as we are not in the same district - the judge/prosecutor would treat it as a case of first impression.  They could use the ruling in Colorado in their prosecution/defense, but it could only be relied on as a secondary source and not necessarily cited and used the same as statutory law would be used in said case.  Long story short, if a similar case would happen in TN, you can't use the simple defense that a CO Fed. Judge ruled that guns were allowed in the USPS parking lot, you would have to force a case of first impression onto the federal judge almost as if the CO ruling didn't exist.     Don't know how some can enforce the law without a basic knowledge of the legal system.  

Clearly, age does not equal wisdom...or intelligence.

I would agree they are better out of the box, and a good smith can improve them. But the Rugers aren't bad, cost less, and as I'm a fan of pointing out, you won't find too many, if any "S&W only" loads. They are just crazy beefy. I'd recommend one as a first gun if someone really wanted a revolver. I think Ruger is on top of the heap for best (American made) overall value for the money. S&W is great, but the saved cash can go a long way toward ammo. Having said that I would recommend going to a few shops and putting as many in your hands as possible. If you can rent them to shoot, even better.

The answer to your question...because it's a Glock.

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While at first blush I was tempted to place this into the Ammunition and Reloading forum, it seems to me that this is in actuality the better place for it. Often the subject of "stopping power" in a handgun comes up on other forums and in physical conversations. To be blunt, the notion of "stopping power" from a service / self-defense handgun cartridge as it is envisioned by the general public is non-existent and therefore should not be the primary factor when choosing a handgun for self-defense. It is my opinion and that of many others who know far more about the subjects than I do that you should chiefly choose a carry handgun based on how well you shoot it, how likely you are to carry it due to comfort / size / weight of the firearm, and how reliable the firearm will be. Without passing grades in these three areas, a handgun is in my opinion completely unsuitable for carry. You will see from the chart below that when comparing well-designed defensive ammunition, there are minimal differences in penetration depths and in temporary cavity effects. This photo was provided by Doug Carr. As you increase the diameter and mass of the bullet from 9mm / 357SIG, to .40SW, to .45ACP, more tissue will be crushed resulting in a larger permanent cavity. Also it should be noted that the larger bullets typical offer improved performance through "intermediate" barriers (clothing, vehicle and building construction, etc.). However it should also be noted that for some people, the benefits of the larger calibers is offset by the fact that a larger caliber typically begets a larger weapon frame which begets decreased ergonomics for the shooter depending on their physique. The photo provided above makes it obvious that NONE of the common service pistol calibers generate temporary wound cavities of sufficient size that it would cause significant permanent tissue damage. Refer to “Handgun Wounding Factors and Effectiveness” produced by the FBI FTU, as this remains the single best discussion of the wound ballistic requirements of handguns used for self-defense -- it is available at: http://www.amazon.co...94498334&sr=8-1 So too is the notion of "expansion" or recovered diameter used to support the preference for larger caliber handguns. As seen in the photo above, the bullets recovered from ballistic gelatin show that modern defensive cartridges in the different calibers exhibit similar expansion diameters. Keeping in mind that it is not the size of the hole going in that is as important as the depth of penetration and the amount of bleeding caused within that affects the effectiveness of the bullet, one can see that choosing a handgun solely on the basis of caliber ignores far more important factors. Primarily, you should choose the handgun for carry that: You are most likely to carry rather than leave at home You shoot the most accurately Offers the best reliability Summary: Caliber used as the basis for choosing a defensive handgun is, within reason, bull$#!%. All modern service calibers provided comparable performance and all of them offer generally poor incapacitation ability when compared to rifle calibers. Therefore, choose the gun that you shoot best, that you're most likely to have with you at all times, and that won't fail to operate when you need it the most. Source of much of the data contained within this thread: DocGKR on M4Carbine.net