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There in lies the problem. If we, as gun enthusiasts keep thinking this way, we will soon need to take classes, pass certification courses, and hell, why not throw in mandatory liability insurance before we can even begin looking for a weapon. I mean, it's only common sense right? While I also feel people should take courses, I in no way feel it should be mandatory.

They aren’t the Hemi’s I grew up with either. They will spank the Hemi’s we grew up with and leave them sitting at the starting line…. embarrassed.

Your brought up a very sore subject in my life. I really use to love the lead sleds that ran up and down the highways of America. Those big old Chrysler Crown Imperials, Lincoln Town Cars, Cadillac El Dorado's, Oldsmobile Toronado, Buick Riveria's. Yep!!!! those were the good ole days for sure. Reminds me of a day at the shop I owned many ears ago that my son owns now. I was closed on Saturdays and heard this racket out side so opened the overhead door to see on of Tow Pros wreckers siting on the parking lot. On the back of the roll back was a 1958 Chrysler Crown Imperial all dressed up in all that beautiful Chrome and the wide white wall tires and the memories came flowing back. It was Scotty, the owner of Tow Pro and the owner of this beautiful car and he had a problem. Scotty had been to 5 garages with it and all of them told him not to even put it on the ground because they knew nothing about anything that old. I could tell by the look on the older gentlemans face he was concerned about his car. Scott had it loaded backwards so I said back it up to the door an put it in the second bay nose first. Scotty told the man he owed his $45.00 and the man handed him a $100.00 and said "Thank you son!' I asked the gentleman what was wrong and he said he was in town from New Jersey for a Chrome show of Old cars and it just quit running after a back fire. I said ok. He looked at me and said do you thnk you can help me and I said it would not be on the ground if I didn't. I lifted the hood and there is was. a 392 Cubic inch Chrysler Hemi with twin AFB carbs. Just as I was expecting. I pulled #1 Plug and told him to bump it till I told him to stop. On third bump the piston in #1 hole came up om top dead center compression. I took distributer cap off and rotor button was pointing to #1. I then got a distirbutor wrench and pulled the distributor and took it over to a workbench. The gentleman walked with me. Once at the bench I turned it upside down and shook it and in just a couple shakes the piece of copper fell out on the bench. It had a set of dual points in it and the copper strap holding the coil wire to the points had broke. That was a standard issue with them back in the day. I called the parts house and they sent me 2 new dets of points and two new condensers. I set the gap on te points before I put the distributor back in. Once every thing was back in place I told him to start it. It turned over about 3 times and fired right up. I watched as the mans grin came over his face from ear to ear. He revved it a couple times and turned it off. I think he was kind of expecting me to bend him over for the fix. I charged him $27.00 for the parts and $45.00 Labor which was 1 hour. He also handed me two $100.00 bills, shook my hand and said gentlemen like you and that tow truck driver are both a very rare pair of individuals and for that thank you both and I sent him on his way.

Yes it is, but it’s getting me out shooting today! I also ordered the parts to finish up my Grendel build.

This is a sad thread.

I don't shoot much anymore. It's part laziness and part lack of free time. I also have two safes full plus several stashed about. I really don't have the room nor a sane reason to buy much more. You get tired of anything if you do it enough. To tell the truth, I don't find much enjoyment in anything anymore. I guess it's part of getting older.

This is why I enjoy building them, especially the weird and different ones. It's just exciting pull the trigger for the first time on something you've machined, welded, formed, etc wondering if it's going to work or if you have to go back to the drawing board.

I've have had a Ruger LCP II in .380ACP for a few months now. Got it new and been carrying it in a DeSantis Super Fly pocket holster. I got to say this is the easiest gun to carry that I ever had. Just put it in your front pocket and go. No big heavy gun belt and no belt holster. I've put 100 rds of American Eagle 95gr though it so far just to check function. So far so good. Big thumbs up ! It comes with the flush fit magazine plate and the "finger groove" plate. I use the flush fit one. This is a very good gun. I've only had one other .380 and that was a CZ83. Loved that gun and it ate any ammo but it was a bigger gun. This LCP is really neat and small.

Anyone else just don't see guns the same way they used to? I cant tell the last time I have been trully excited about a buying a new gun or even hearing about a new gun coming out. In fact, I have been downsizing and dont even go shooting anymore. Is this a terminal case or is there still hope?

I'm not a Savage 24 expert, but have been researching them for a few years and do own a few. I have a Savage 24V in .222/20 gauge, and a few other caliber/gauge combinations, including one of the elusive 24C Camper's Companion models. The prices are all over the page on the Savage 24s. Some think they scarcer than hen's teeth and therefore should be worth a king's ransom. I have them in the following rifle calibers: .22LR, .22Mag., .22 Hornet, .222, .30-30, .357Mag. In some of these I have multiples of the same caliber. On the bottom (shotgun) barrels, I only have .410 & 20 gauge. Like I said, I'm no expert, but in these guns, one needs to physically examine each gun to determine it's fair market value. The condition of the gun can swing the value quite a bit. To show you the wide range of prices on these guns, I've paid in a range of $75.00 to $550.00 over the last 10 to 15 years. The price is also affected considerably by the caliber of the rifle barrel. The .357 Mag and .22 Hornet are very near the top. There seems to be more .222s on the Gun Broker site than any other caliber. Sometimes, the Gun Broker prices are a bit higher than the "local" market. Some of the .222s have been "re-chambered" to .223 caliber, and some of the .22 hornets have been re-chambered to .22 K-Hornet. Unmodified Savage 24s bring more than modified ones. The normal faults that apply to any other gun also apply to the Savage 24...rust, pitting, worn bluing, original furniture and finish, and cracks or splits in the furniture. Unless your gun is in one of the extremes of good or bad, I'd say it would probably fit into the range of $350 - $450. That's just my "opinion"...and we all know what they say about opinions! This has been lengthy, but I hope it helps. No one wants to pay too much, and no one wants to sell a gun too cheap. If both parties are happy...it's a good deal. IMHO

You don't send them to the ATF anyway. ATF does a tax free transfer to whoever you left it to in the will.

You never have to requalify on shooting whether you have a normal 8 year HCP or a lifetime one. However, background checks are run every 4 years on all permit holders, but requires no effort on the permit holders part. - OS

We know. He was here during the Zimmerman trial.

The Dodge retro styling is well done, v6 is peppy and with Chrysler Financial and Santander, they are doing a fair share of below 650 credit scores. The 300 is about the last big US luxury car since Cadillac and Lincoln exited the segment in 2011 (end of DeVille DTS and Town Car) Regarding reliability, all I know is every franchise dealer has a service department full of Hondas, Toyos, Fords, Chevys...

Some variation of this body style is what I'd go for but not a 8cyl. Speed not needed nowadays. Other contenders for my classic car dream are a Corvaire 2nd bodystyle, 60s Ford falcon, 67ish rambler etc. Basically, a mid 60s to early 70s stock econo car. Anything but a Maverick.

I stand corrected. The swinger body style Plus the 6cyl. engine by whatever name anyway.

I am a retired federal officer and after I retired I found a firearms instructor you did the qual and far as the shooting requirement which cost $50, that was so easy that a 10 year old could pass the qual. After that I had to go to Idenigo and get finger printed which cost $32 and because I wanted a nation wide permit I had to pay another $10. I figured that was it for life except for maybe the shooting qual. I just now found out that to maintain the nation wide qual I have to repeat the whole process every year. Are you kidding me! I have to get finger printed every year? What a bunch of junk. If I wanted the right to carry in the state of TN only I would have to only complete the process every four years. Being a retired law enforcement officer I can't believe this whole process. My bud as a Tenn permit holder has a lifetime permit which mean he never has to requalify on shooting or do another background check. I called the state office just to verify the process because it makes no sense. I told the supervisor from the state that I think I'll take my chance on just shooting every year. As a retired LEO it makes no sense that I have to jump through hoops every year when normal citizens don't have the same process.

We need more indoor ranges in the TriCities. Right now there is only one that is pistol only. One closed and another burned. There are some national forest ranges, but they are not very close. I need to join an outdoor, but I have more time to shoot in the winter. Indoor is easier then. I agree if it takes too much effort it ruins the enjoyment. I used to get to shoot on property my previous employer owned. I could shoot on my lunch hour right out of the back of the car. That made it really nice.

Maybe you need a boat.

I learned to do it when she was gone and to hide it better

The original LCP is a knockoff of the P3AT. It did have better fit and finish. But they ripped off the design from Keltec

We always have put enough down to avoid PMI and escrow of taxes and insurance. Our mortgages have never stayed with who we originated them with either. Banking is one strange beast how they sell mortgages is so odd.

I run the Vortex Crossfire II on my 308 rifle and it works perfectly. It's fully multi-coated lenses, making it the best 308 scope for big game hunting. On my Ar10, I run a Vortex Optics Diamondback 4-12x40 for my close range shots. If you are looking for a close-to-mid-range shot with the Ar-10, I definitely highly recommend the Vortex Diamondback. But to answer your first question, the Crossfire is definitely a scope worth purchasing.

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/786668561

Hard to beat the convenience of the pocket pistols.

The way I see it is that if the shooter would have just minded his own business then the situation would never had occurred. It wasn't his place or authority to confront people over things that didn't directly affect him. Sure, we as permit holders have seen people do blatant and stupid things while we are carrying but we don't confront them. I also think that if (A) the shooter was an officer in an argument with the driver, I think the victim would have thought twice about charging him and knocking him down. There are some idiots who disregard the law enough to do so, but it usually ends badly for them and (B) if the shooter wasn't armed then most likely he wouldn't have started the argument to begin with. I think that most people who carry a gun do so with respect for the law and life itself. They avoid conflict at all costs and would only use deadly force as a last resort. However, there are some out there who legally carry who become emboldened by that ability and may say or do things they normally wouldn't do unarmed. They somehow think they can "police" society over things that ill them. They feel justified in confrontation knowing that if they stoke a fire and it becomes too hot to handle, then they can shoot their way out and claim self defense. Those are the types of people who have no need to carry a gun. It also seems that the media can only find the few bad apples to show the public how "bloodthirsty HCP holders are". It's not often that the news will show a justified case of deadly force. That wouldn't fit their narrative. They would rather focus on the negative stories which causes division and discord between the masses (just read the comments section on the news articles about this story). Some may disagree with me but that's just how I feel about these recent shootings. They give the good permit holders a bad name.

That might be one of the issues. I used to have fun going out and shooting with friends and family. But now, it is almost easier to get all the planets to align than it is time to go out and shoot.

Agreed on all points. Especially the last one.

There are very few new guns these days that excite me. Plastic just ain't my thing and how many times can you remake the 1911? The few guns on my wish list are all old, hard to find and mostly out of my budget. I also find myself not shooting as much as I used to. Some days I just don't feel like going to the trouble of getting all that stuff together and dragging it out to the range. Sometimes I just don't want to have to clean them when I get home. I no longer have any shooting partners either. That does take a lot of fun out of it. Kinda boring going to the range all by myself. Maybe I'm just gettin' old.

Sometimes the ones you shoot the least are the treasures of the collection. The struggle is real.

Or if it’s going to blow up, lol.

Shoot…. You couldn’t beat a Challenger Hellcat Redeye if it was pulling Greg’s boat.

I didn't do it to correct you at all sir. Being an old mechanic as a profession for 35+ years I just know about the old American cars to an extent. Plus my 1st wife drove a Dodge Dart Swinger with the 318 in it for about 7 years and I finally got her out of it by buying her a brand new Chrysler LeBaron which is what she was driving a month later when she ran off with her boyfriend................