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I think we ought to quit withholding payroll taxes. Make everyone write one check on April 15th and then immediately follow it with Election Day on April 16. Term limits would be a self-correcting problem.

I put mine in a empty soda or water bottle with hot water and dish soap, then shake the piss out of it. You'd be surprised how black the water is after

It's like this; if I'm doing the legal speed limit and you fly up on me...get a grip, because I'm not going to speed up to satisfy your stupidity!   DaveS

Yesterday I took my Savage Mod.170 .35 Rem., First time its gone this year.  Well a little before 8 this small 4 point (little scrub) comes troting across the field. Before I can get the gun on him he is in a small thicket, through it and in two the second field. Still moving along pretty good while as I'm raising the rifle, I holler HEY, he pauses for a moment. Alright gun is up and pointing, he is still troting away so I holler HEY. He stops and throws his head up and looks around. Gives me just enough time to draw a bead and squeeze off a shot ........................................................................ bang flop hits the ground drags himself maybe ten yds. Thats it, those 200gr Rem cor locs do a number. Don't have a pic, but there is a picture of said rifle in the .35 Rem thread. Since Sun, I have taken three deer with three different rifles.

Read this morning on line were some crazy professor of course from a New York University proposing that we do away with the 22nd Amendment to the Constitution and allow a President to run and remain President as long as he chooses to. I guess being from New York you can expect something like that. As far as I'm concerned I think every elected official in the Senate, House need term limits right along with keeping the Presidents at two and I think that there should also be limits put on how long the a Judge of the Supreme Court should be allow to have a seat on the Supreme Court Bench. I think in the past and even right now there are one or two that are well past age to possibly have Alzheimer's  and need to be gone....................jmho

I am a EST (engagement skills trainer) operator for my reserve unit, did the same thing for my active unit.  Some of the electronic trainers,like the EST are amazing teaching tools, but they should be used with the same general rules as a live weapon.   I cant say about this system, but on an EST i can show an individual shooter everything the weapon is doing during the shooting process.  When paired with a decent coach it is one of the better ways of identifying shooter deficiencies and without the ammo expenditure to boot.   Electronic shoot don't shoot training is great, practicing with blanks/simmunitions using large groups of role players may be better, but it is not as cost effective.   The systems are only games if they are treated that way, when used how they are designed they are nearly as effective as live fire training and in some cases even more effective.

So what I'm thinking Terry is this... put an empty gun safe in your garage, don't bolt it down, hide your guns under the mattresses and in the closet like the old days, and won't the perps be surprized when they drag your safe home and open it up to find a note that says "Gotcha!"  :rofl:

My take is that term limits are not the answer.  Making your livelihood being a career politician is the problem. Cut all the salaries by 75% or more and let's see what happens. The founders wanted common folk to serve because they wanted to, not to get rich in government.

I have to say that I really like Tarantino's films. They are highly entertaining. But they are entertainment only, and I place no political or historical significance on them.

Can I buy some punctuation? First off this is a privately owned property. Any past history you or your family have on this property is because the owners allowed. You have absolute zero rights and zero ownership on that tract. It is not public and never has been, although people like to think like it is. People have threatened to burn Gobey for over a decade over our management decisions and it is always false threats. Big deal....light it up, hope they catch em and put em under the jail. Your rant is not only incoherent but it's offense to all private land owners. No one comes to your house and tells you how to mow your yard, what gives you the right to tell Coal Creek how to manage theirs?

True.  There were also no popular presidential elections, electors were chosen by the state houses.  US senators were not elected directly, but appointed by their respective state governments.  I'm told this was to insure that the states retained some modicum of control over who represented their interests at the federal level, and restrained the influence of the "unwashed masses" over national politics.  It seems our founding fathers were far more suspicious of democratic processes than we today, perhaps we should consider whether the changes we have made since that time have really been for the better...

If anything this is one of them cautionary tales to learn from. I'm sure the shooter feels horrible about this and it will take a toll on his life. Add to that the civil suit that is sure to come.

    We have term limits... they're called elections

I'm in for term limits on Congress, too.  Even as wise as the founding fathers were, they didn't forsee a voter demographic as stupidly disengaged as the one we have now.

That's a cute cat... :up:

  So, if I'm passing someone at, say 72, and some asshat comes racing up on my butt at 85, I should increase my speed to 85 to accommodate him?

Some folks just put them in a cloth bag and run them thru the washing machine. Great if you want your underwear to smell like CLP. 

   Goldenrod a must and bolt the safe down a must.  Anything beyond that is just to make us feel better.  A friend of mine is a cop and he once investigated a home robbery where the perps stole a bunch of Dewalt cordless tools next door and used a 18v circular saw to go right through the garage door in minutes then helped themselves to the contents of the garage.  The door alarm on the "people" door never went off because the door wasn't opened.    whitewolf, I'm not judging, I'm laughing.

Had a State Trooper one time tell me that the speedlimit is 70MPH. He said I was doing 82. I told him I was passing a vehicle. He said "let me repeat myself". You were doing 82 in a 70 mph zone, I don't care what you were doing. The speed limit is 70, not 82! I think my Firefighter plate got me out of a ticket. Simply put, passing in the passing lane is NOT an excuse to speed. Both the right hand and left hand lanes are posted 70MPH. We don't get to pick and choose. If the OP was doing 70 in the passing lane, then he was 100% correct! He just happened to get in front of a jerk! The left lane isn't the speeding lane, nor is the right.   DaveS

Dunno the nuances of GA deadly force laws, but that could likely be a life changing "oops" for the shooter.   Guy wasn't inside the abode, unarmed, and old. Even without the Alzheimer's, initially sounds like situation involving a person not presenting any threat that simply going back in the home and calling the cops would have remedied.   - OS

Soy sauce Teriyaki sauce Worcestershire sauce Black Pepper Crushed red pepper Garlic powder Onion Powder   (Do not wash, rinse, etc. the meat. You want it dry so that it will soak up the marinade. Wet rinsed meat won't  take the marinade well and will taste bland.You also do not need to add any salt, as there is plenty of it in the sauces.)   You'll need to play with the amounts of these ingredients, but don't be stingy with any of them. The longer you marinade your jerky, the stronger the flavor. In my dehydrator, it takes 6 hours to dry thin meat, and 8 hours for thicker cuts. It's done when it breaks like a green stick.

FSU sucks. They are barely better than a class 5 high school team. They will lose to whoever they play in the NC game regardless of conference....and their QB is a felon. Disgraceful. :stir: :hiding:

I'm a visual learner so this thread has only confused me further. I need to find someone down here that will let me come over and watch the process. Amazon has a book on Reloading for Beginners that I may pick up.

    I wish more folks understood this. I have folks brake check me nearly without fail every time I flash them.   It is the same equivalent to saying 'track' when you are behind someone when running.

According to Lee, the 4 hole is better for handgun only, and the Classic is for both handgun and rifle.

     Courtesy and communication.   If I can safely accommodate someone, I will. If I am in the left lane and loose SA, and someone gives a couple of quick flashes of their Headlights to communicate their intent to pass (why that feature was created, btw... it's not an "I'm p***ed at you" feature) I read it as such, and accommodate them as safely and succinctly as possible. I would hope for the same in return.        We are essentially connected parts of an organism when we are on a freeway like that. It makes good sense to work together... but... it doesn't take much to make that very difficult.          Oh. as has been mentioned. please do not linger next to any semi. everybody makes mistakes. don't be a consequence of one. I was run off of I-40 years ago at speed, in traffic. it was eastbound between Nash and Knox - divided interstate, sloping grass down into woods. I had been in traffic, passing a semi with others. I was boxed in and without warning he/she just instantly came over on top of me. For at least that once, an iroc-z was capable of a slight drift (long before it was popular) sideways on downward sloping grass hill at 70mph... easy does it.      I was very fortunate for the lack of guard rails, bridges, and ditches. I stopped at the next rest stop to take a breather.   My brother, who had been immediately behind me in his car and saw the whole thing, didn't miss a beat. In a dry, calm manner, the first words out of his mouth were, "How are your britches?". :)

damn and all these years I have doing it all wrong

Here's my big baby: Max he was 2 yrs old in that picture, he's now 4.. He's gone camping a few times, has a really bad ball drive, and he's a big baby..

Because the world only revolves around aholes.

  What you're describing is your personal preference. How did you arrive at 5 mph difference? Why not 4? Driving one mile at 70 or 75 takes about 50 seconds. Is your time so important that one minute or less is going to make such a huge difference?   If I'm passing someone at a reasonable speed, and I have three or four cars behind me playing Death Race 2000, they're the ones who are doing it wrong.   I really don't understand the attitude that if you don't get out of my way when I want you to, just because I want to drive as fast as I want, you're being a jerk.  :squint:

Term limits has nothing to do with the mess we are in now; if someone stays in office for a long time it’s because the voters want them there. I’m okay with term limits on the office of the President; but not anyone else. It's hard enough to find good people that will run without further limiting the field. Multiple term politicians are there because the voters in their area want them there. If you are a disgruntled voter; run someone that can win, but you don’t get to legislate them out.

should have term limits on all of them.  one term would work, no more than two.  that way we would not be in such of a mess that we are in now.  should have term limits in the state too.  

You guys assume way too much sometimes. Perhaps he couldn't afford a light for his pistol, maybe his house doesn't have exterior lights or even if it does, we don't know if the guy was standing in the shadows.    I also highly doubt he knew it was an elderly unarmed man. He went outside to investigate and found himself facing a man in the dark who wouldn't follow commands and then began coming towards him. I'm sure he was in fear for his life.   The bottom line is that you really shouldn't go outside in this scenario. Stay in your house!

  obviously severely speeding, racing someone else, not sure but it will all come out soon enough.  Those GT's have a really good cockpit in them, and the only thing left on that car is a wheel.   I'll be surprised if they were doing 100mph or less at the time they crashed.

play stupid games, win stupid prizes. I can't even imagine how fast they were going to cause this.

It was good seeing everyone today. Thanks for stopping by MK. Also good seeing Dolomite and Sour Kraut, Garufa, David, BJB, Macgyver, and Reaper even stopped by and dropped off a rifle. Also good seeing GoneBlstic yesterday. I'm glad you all came by, cause this show has been very slow and tedious Tapatalk ate my spelling.

    It isn't about being in the right. I refuse to let other drivers dictate how I drive. I drive no more than 5 miles over the limit. If someone wants to drive like a maniac, that's his problem.   I've been driving legally now for 44 years. Took defensive driving; I understand the concept. Never had a wreck due to someone else's arrogance or insanity. I constantly monitor rear and side views, so I know what's coming up behind me and what's beside me. But when I'm going around someone, I'm not going to alter my speed because someone thinks they have more right to the road than I do. They can wait till I'm done passing, then I'll get over.

Well, I look at this in several different levels. Yea people are really crazy about these Black Friday deals which to me is shows how some people can be so stupid. They will line up to save 10 or 15 bucks on an item which I guess that much savings might be important to some folks. Now with that said I don't blame the people half as much as I blame the Merchants or Store fro creating these situations. They have become the orchestra-tor's of all this craziness more than the people. They will only order a small quantity of a very popular item and advertise it for Black Friday to suck people to their stores in huge numbers. I think when folks start getting killed over these tactics Black Friday will become a thing of the past. I have found that if they advertise something I want I will wait a week after Christmas when all the stores restock and go buy the item and pay the extra few bucks and get it. All the stores for the most part beginning the middle of the week following Thanksgiving will already begin restocking those same items at the normal prices also. They may already have them in the back of the store ware house ready for restocking the following week but will only put out a limited amount for Black Friday for the suckers that want to save 10 bucks......................jmho 

It appears in the picture that he used an RPG or something similar. :stunned:   Nice buck!

Here's the DVD I was talking about. I thought it was free, but it's $13.00  I've seen it before, it's really good and would be worth every bit of that $13.00!   https://secure.kentucky.gov/Mall/Store/7803440a42df458c815d9db55890b738/Product/5ec5d4530c384a58af441a914bf23317/   Here's a sample of the video and link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0p2t6AXeWxQ   Dave

Thats what he was doing, passing the slower car in front of him. Left lane isnt for doing 100mph, its for passing slower traffic.

Also, at this point, no one except the cops know what the shooter said happened immediately before the shooting.  In other words, there are several situations possible (some favorable, some unfavorable to the shooter), but no one knows for sure. Some of the reports indicate that the victim was rattling the door knob, knocking or banging on both front and back doors.  These are all normal actions for someone who was confused and thought he was locked out of his own home, but would be quite alarming to the rightful occupants. The Sheriff has stated that he did not think the man should have left the house, but it wasn't illegal either.  He is also quoted as saying there is no doubt the occupants felt threatened.   I can imagine two extremes that resulted in the shooting:  On one extreme, the shooter could have been nervous and ready to pull the trigger at the slightest twitch, which resulted in the death of an innocent man.  On the other extreme, the shooter may have given several commands to stop, displayed his weapon, backed up a few feet (i.e. retreated), and only shot when the man made some type of threatening motion (lunging, acting like he was pulling a weapon, ordering the dog to attack, etc).  In between these two extremes are myriad of possibilities, but we are left with an absence of information on which to judge.

of course we don't know all the details but based on what I read my opinion is the shooter should be charged at least with manslaughter. this appears to be a shooting that should never have happened but for the foolishness of Mr. Hendricks. this shooting seems to me flawed for the following reasons  a) Hendricks was secured inside the house and not under thread of harm or death B) Hendricks had contacted police and should have remained inside the house and let the police do their job  c)  Hendricks did not identify his target as a threat, I find it hard to believe that any 32 yr old would feel threatened by a 72 yr old if he had just identified the target  with some kind of light  d) Hendricks violated the stand your ground law in that while we don't have a requirement to retreat the law does not give us the right to advance on some one. I feel Hendricks made the same mistake as Zimmerman in that neither understood that self defense should never involve an element of offense or looking for trouble. self defense with a gun should only be a last resort when no other way is available to prevent harm or death to our self or those we protect. Hendricks actions did not meet this standard in my opinion.   disregard the smiley face don't know why its there and could not get rid of it.

I am confused on a few issues here. The family of the criminal are defending him yet they are trying to make everyone believe that they didn't know about what their son was doing and they only heard about it like everyone else in the news??????? I guess they all have Obamaitus because that is the excuse Obama uses every time he is trying to convince folks he didn't know about anything happening until he heard it in the news. I guess they figure if Obama can get by with showing his ignorance they can to. Good parents would know what their 17 year old child was doing and you would think they had to know about the first robbery. My favorite saying once again. "Stupid is as Stupid does"!!!! My hats off the good guy for stepping in and I hope he goes to the range more often so next time he can save the taxpayers  a lot of money and send the next bad guy out of the store in a  body bag..........................jmho

  I much prefer the Raptor. I still have one of the gen 1 Gunfighters, but got rid of the rest after I tried the Raptor. I also had the ambi Gunfighter but i just really like the ergonomics of the Raptor. Can't imagine going back to standard CH's or any other BCM variant. Even if the Raptor wasn't ambi, I'd still get it, simply because of the mechanism and ergonomics. You can always sell the Raptor if you don't like it. 

Yeah I hate to say it but I just have no interest in watching last season all over agian. I liked it last season just fine but that was last season. I am really disappointed that the whole governor thing is comming back.

The jury agreed with you. I guess that shows our system works.

Get your attention? :)   Looks to be pretty good, tonight on National Geo, at 9 Eastern, repeated at 11. A fitting companion to the Walking Dead perhaps, the real zombie hordes that would arise?   http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/channel/american-blackout/videos/american-blackout-trailer/   http://www.huffingtonpost.com/aaron-sagers/natgeos-american-blackout_b_4158582.html   - OS

  Why did Dad just have a double barrel in the house all those "weapons of war" in his bunker lol.

Why in gods name is the kid with the video camera on night duty??? Ugh.... -_-