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  I don't think it's a call to arms. I think it's another increase in tensions. Bear poking is a funny thing. Getting your face eaten is usually a lot more about timing than the force of the last poke. When you have a huge mass of people (I have used 100,000 in a couple of posts, and the NRA is using 300,000) that are willing to commit a felony to stand for their rights, you're talking lots of potential energy. Those folks are risking something real, and there's a whole bunch of them. So... what if the state insist on enforcing that stupid law?   Personally, if we're gonna have it out with these commies, there's no better place than the Constitution State, where the Mothers Against Icky Guns and the Soda Nazi can smell the damn gun powder. :)

I'm not trolling nor baiting, merely providing the same information of stories that can be found in similar posts in this area. If you feel that it is baiting then that is merely your own opinion to which you are entitled but was not my intentions. Were this the other way around I'm sure most wouldn't have posted or if they had, most would have congratulated the officers on their victory in justice but when it's turned around it would seem I'm baiting? Kind of a double standard...

Proof positive that it is very easy to separate AR15/gun owners from their money.  Talk about a solution in search of a problem.

I second that and for the most part that starts at home I believe little girls get their idea of what a man should be by what kind of man their father is and by how their father treats women in general -Dusty-

http://www.buzzfeed.com/bennyjohnson/inside-the-armys-spectacular-hidden-treasure-room

And gun ownership is the new "cool", so you actually have a lot of new gunowners who actually want to shoot theit guns, not just stick them in a closet or drawer. Its a great thing in the long run!

I figured he came out so if he did get drafted and then they cut him he could blame it on the gay and not his inability to play with the big boys. Between this and the "targeting" calls it's gonna be flag football before long because 2 hand touch would be too rough for the girly men.

I have owned both. Can't go wrong with either. My biggest problem with the M&P line is that they don't have anything that's the size of a G19, which is the perfect size. So, currently, I'm hanging with Glocks. 

I am not going to lock it.   The reason is this is more than just cop bashing. The post has something we normally don't see which is the bad officers being held accountable. Normally we just see a post and assume the bad officers got away with it but in this case it seems as though they will not.

I did. And those prayers were answered because I fixed the car and traded a rifle tha I might use once a month, and hadn't been able to sell, for a motorcycle I can ride to work everyday. My truck averages 16 mpg. This averages 50 mpg. Insurance is cheap on it at less than $100 a year. So yes, when I have less than $150 (tags and insurance) in a new mode of transportation that will save me tons on gas and maintenance cost it was a good finacial decision. Its not like I went and burdened myself with a huge monthly payment or something else that will be a finacial burden. I can park this tomorrow and I'll never pay another dime on it. Tapatalk ate my spelling

I think I'll also be teaching my daughter not to get involved with douchey losers and volitile relationships that will later require a restraining order.

Some words of wisdom for dads with daughters -Dusty-

  Based on your post in the hb1885 constitutional carry thread, I'm not sure if you are serious or not...

That's my thought as well. I like the idea. It's a neat gadget. But I have loaded mags in an ammo can, ready for range or bugout. Also stacked on a shelf in in a hazmat cabinet.

  Gee, I didn't think it was a personal attack.  You said you would not hang your hopes on a dog like the 2nd.  You continue to go on about the law being superior to the Constitution.  How else should that be taken?   Obviously you don't get what I've stated over and over, I have no fear of the .gov.  They can do what they want and I will keep doing what I want as long as I don't encroach on someone else' freedoms.  Stop confusing discussing the natural possible outcomes or progression as fear.  It's called not sticking your head in the sand.   Do you not continue to write off every encroachment as nothing?  A few posts back you did.  But it would appear you agreed with those scenarios and can't detect the slippery slope...   And stop being such a hypocrite crying about personal attacks anyway.  You don't agree, so you malign folks by calling them tinfoil hatters...  

I guess the constitution and laws already in place at the time protected those citizens while their guns were being confiscated during Katrina, right? :rolleyes:

Problem is the vast majority of times the department, county and/or city will defend the officers because if the officers are found to be at fault then the department, county and/or will also be found at fault. Most law suits like this list the officers, the county and every body in between on one suit. So if one is found guilty the rest are also found guilty. A better way to approach it is to file a lawsuit against each individually and not lump them in with the rest. The reason is if the department can distance themselves from the bad officer they will but when lumped together the department has no choice but to defend themselves and the officers are part of that defense. It also allows one or two defendants to be found not guilty and you still have the rest you may win from. Another reason is when a suit is won against an individual officer it is the officer that pays and not the rest of the department. The reason why most people list the city or county is they are hoping for the multi million dollar settlement which, from my experience, rarely happens. I would much rather hold the ones actually responsible too.   When I had someone try to sue me it listed me, about a 1/2 dozen yet to be named officers, my supervisor, my supervisor's supervisor,  every chief in the department, the sheriff, the county mayor and the county itself. In the end it was thrown out but it also cost the county $15K to prepare for the court case. Most times a lot of departments, counties or cities will try to settle for a no fault judgment for less than the cost to defend. I know we had one suit that was total BS but the claimant agreed to take $5K in order to drop the suit and the county was glad because it was cheaper than going to court.   As far as what happened here very few bad officers just wake up one day and are suddenly bad officers. It has normally taken years of slowly pushing the boundaries. And although we would love to hate the officers for what they did but it is not entirely their fault. Their actions are the result of their continued training, his peers, his supervisors as well as the administration. They have allowed other incidents to go unpunished which only empowers officers like this. It is a rare that an officer goes from being an outstanding officer to a crappy officer in one step, it happens gradually in front of their peers and supervisors. Officers tend to take care of their own even when the bad officer brings a bad light to the good ones. I never understood this, the good officers should be very angry with the bad officer but it rarely happened from what I witnessed. I know any time I had an officer screw up enough to warrant being fired I tried everythig in my power to fire them but in most cases the administration allowed them to resign because it was easier. And in a lot of cases the resigning officer received a letter of recommendation upon exit as well as a glowing review because he didn't try to fight it. Another thing that contributes to things like this is that officers are afraid of being labeled a rat if they tell on other officers. I have known several officers who did the right thing in by turning in bad officers only to be ridiculed and threatened until they finally resigned. In most cases the bad officer would be treated better than the good officer. And when the good officer resigned they would rarely get letters of recommendation. I have even sat in front of supervisors as they called all the surrounding jurisdictions to tell them the officer who just resigned is a rat. They would joke saying the rat has been blackballed and will never work LE again. Stark contrast to the way they treat bad cops.  

[quote name="RobertNashville" post="1116518" timestamp="1393356942"]If you are really that worried about it then you probably shouldn't be posting anything on a firearm-related forum. :panic:[/quote] I understand that ... and am not personally that worried about it. ... but also don't bury my head in the sand and turn a blind eye to events that people say the Constitution will protect us from.

[quote name="DaveTN" post="1116327" timestamp="1393332230"]Hitler was in Nazi Germany, Connecticut is in the United States. You may believe that the cops will kick in doors and scare people into compliance; but I do not. What Connecticut is doing is wrong; they will have to be told that, either by the voters at the polls or by the courts. Anything is possible, but without exigent circumstances or plain view, they need a warrant to kick a door on a house. One incident is all it would take. I believe they will make these arrests as they come into contact with these weapons and owners. Traffic stops, Domestic violence calls, burglary calls, house fires, etc. A person threatening to kill cops doesn’t scare anyone. Vanderboegh will soon be in prison or a mental institution. He’s just another one of these nut cases that thinks he wants a war. He would die where he makes his stand; as a criminal. But he won’t; he’s just a bunch on noise.[/quote] ... Boston, post-marathon bombing, hundreds to thousands of police trolling the streets forcing any and all out of their homes at gun point for warrantless searches ... ... gun confiscation after Katrina ... the .gov recording and tracking phone calls of millions of Americans ... unregulated assassination of US citizens by unseen drones ... but this would never happen in America

  Hi! I see you are (relatively) new here. We here at TGO specialize in securing malls, shopping centers, playgrounds, museums, etc.   Myself? My SO (we work as a team when necessary) has a similar accessory containing a breakdown NEF single-shot 300 WinMag with an 18" bbl. The plan is that I shield us with my body and “catch the rounds” while she assembles the NEF. I lay down covering fire with my 23 (Bar-Sto .357 Sig barrel) and she makes the long shots. I will then throw smoke grenades to obscure the area while continuing to lay covering fire. The problem, of course, is when I have to turn my back to run, and then the problem crops up.   HCP Badge anyone?

Why?  Because I've seen the work that a bubbasmith can accomplish.

"after reviewing the evidence, the Bloomfield police department found no fault with the officers’ actions."   I think I'm less troubled that these officers did this than I am that their department didn't seem to have a problem with it...that indicates to me that the problem goes far deeper than a couple of a-hole's with badges.

VAG - Volkswagen Aktiengesellschaf or Volkswagen AG or common mistaken with Volkswagen Audi Group.. Yes, VW plans when opening that plant was to exceed toyota in sales in the US, Can they? Yes, with their current offerings, especially the TDIs. Laugh all you want, VW is making a comeback and future looks really good.. And yes I own both a VW and Audi and two nissans. 

It's good manners.

Nah, I installed a set myself and I turned out fine...

The Germans and Jews probably thought nothing like what happened could ever happen to them or their own country (and the countless other communist and socialist countries). It takes a long process to get people to that point, but with propaganda, education, etc., anything is possible. No one said they wanted to kill cops. :rolleyes: I guess you missed it. Gun confiscation happened during Katrina. I could post a lot of other instances where the law and constitution did not protect the citizens in the moment these illegal and unconstitutional situations happened. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-taU9d26wT4 But I guess you'll believe what you want and everyone else is just tin foil hatters. :lol:

    The fear mongering rhetoric and blindly passing judgement based on it is a pet peeve.  Forgive the barb, it wasn't directed specifically at you.           I wouldn't say "all", but I see your point and agree with it.  Most of those hybrid owners probably have a 2-stroke leaf blower.

Too bad turning those cameras into semi automated turrets is probably illegal.

You don't have to be an "old man" to be disgusted by today's youth. Or for that matter a great deal of today's society. I understand why psychologist associate animal killing with kids who grow into adult murderers and the like. I hate cats, but I've never laughed when one's been splatted in the street :stunned:   All it takes is one stroll through the 407 flea market to see where we are headed as a people. And it's filled with fat asses in skinny jeans, bra-less, and ugg boots that look like they came stomping out of the cow pasture. And that was just the guys !!!! :puke:

New guns are great but S&W just don't build 'em like this anymore. Snagged a very clean 5906 tonight. Can't wait to get it to the range.

I noticed that as well. And did you notice that Matthew's character draws on it like he's holding a joint? Or is that just me? Anyway, yeah... this is one of the best things I've seen in quite a while. With thanks, to OhShoot for getting me links to info on it. Now I gotta wonder who will be in season 2, and what the storyline might be like.

I thought about this very thing while watching the news last night. I told my wife that something like that could well happen here in the future, and I don't intend to take to the streets with a clawhammer or baseball bat. It is sad that an entire country of people aaren't able to defend themselves.   I think that private gun ownership is the one thing that keeps us from being in a similar situation today.

  Ditto and ditto to the guys who said, "never again".  My wife wanted a VW for years.  She always like the look of them and I was always hesitant based on the experience of a few friends to had repeated issues with brand new cars.  As usual, if she wants something long enough she gets it.  We bought her a Passat last May.  Found a very clean, fully-optioned, low mileage previous body style model.  Had to go with the previous body style because she wanted a wagon and the latest one is sedan only.  (Besides, we pay for cars in cash so I like to buy low-mileage used).  I was told by a few VW people that having been made in Germany, it should be better quality than the new Chattanooga Passats.  She loved it for about the first 2 weeks.  I've got to admit it did have a nice interior, decent handling and a very smooth ride.  It was in the shop probably 10 times.  New key x2 ($200 but I convinced the dealer to cover it); new key docking station x1; new electronic steering lock (related to the key and security system) replaced under recall, exhaust problems twice (and any exhaust problems prevent the pressure necessary to engage the turbo which means the engine makes no power and the transmission shift points are wrong so someone calls from the side of the road because she's terrified to drive).  2 oil re-circulation pumps.  This was all in about 3 months.  It got so bad that she drove my car and I drove a different VW loaner every week because she didn't trust VW at all.  Since neither of us has time for that garbage, I found a like new 30,000 mile Honda Accord Crosstour.  She was so disgusted with the VW that she drove the Honda for about 5 minutes before telling me to go negotiate a deal and write the check.  Done.     NEVER AGAIN!  I'm glad to see Tennessee jobs but if I want a Tennessee car I'll buy a Nissan.     

Welcome to Tennessee

Sure...come to an employment at will state with a history (especially in the automotive industry) or rejecting unions and spend a billion $ to build a plant in Chattanooga and then close it because their workers don't want a union?  When pigs sprout wings and fly would I believe that and even then I'd doubt it.   If VW was actually that stupid they wouldn't be in business.

Whiskey covered it about as good as it can be. And if hunting public land, ALWAYS, ALWAYS and ALWAYS be prepared for another hunter to get between you and your bird and killing it while you are calling it in! Or you setting up on and calling a Turkey that someone else is working!   SAFETY! SAFETY! SAFETY!   Dave

Somebody give me a reasonable education on how this is LEGALLY possible.  The following things would need to happen in order for this to turn into a "door to door confiscation".   1. State law enforcement would need access to the 4473s.  They don't.  I suppose they could do some kinda wacky agreement with the feds to get that stuff, but it would still involve a whole lot of man hours to go through millions of 4473s to locate each sale of an "assault rifle".   2. Even if they have al 4473s in hand, how would that translate to probable cause for a search or a warrant for a search?  I suppose on an individual basis they could get warrants, but I'm a little skeptical of a judge issuing 150,000 search warrants and still keeping his job.  Considering that person to person sales of "assault rifles" were legal up until now without any paperwork, a house visit by law enforcement would be nothing more than a knock on the door, telling the cops you sold it to someone whose name you don't remember and that is the end of that.   3. All out nazi, warrantless searches, FEMA death camps, MRAPs on every street corner, cats and dogs living together, people spelling America with a "K", Wolverines!..... AAAAAAHHHHHHH!   So no, I don't think this is "it".  Wake me up when they execute the #3 option.  Until then we could speculate on what the government "could" do.  But they have nukes too, so I guess the government "could" nuke Ohio just as easily as they could kick down your door and take your rifle. 

This is some quality reading. An open letter from the three percenters to Connecticut Law Enforcement.   Let's assume that there are 100,000 non-compliant owners of military pattern semi-automatic rifles in your state. I think it is a larger number but 100,000 has a nice round ring to it. Let us then apply the rule of three percent to that number -- not to the entire population of your state, not even to the number of firearm owners, but just to that much smaller demonstrated number of resistors. That leaves you with at least 3,000 men and women who will shoot you if you try to enforce this intolerable act upon them.      http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2014/02/an-open-letter-to-men-and-women-of.html

If the problem was indeed that the primers weren't firmly seated, I expect the firing pin seated them on the first strike, and they should fire if you try them again. If they don't fire the second time, I'd look at the crimp.

While the issue seems to have cleared up within the last day or so, I decided to add a bottle of Motorcraft Friction Modifier for good measure. OMG! Why didn't someone warn me of the god awful stench of that stuff? I'm not sure there's another substance on earth that stinks so bad.  :puke:

I sold 48 cases last weekend tula 1000 round case out the door 263.31 not always cheaper on line

the metal powder cans can rust on the inside. I've only had one do it

 The National Report website is satire.  Come on, guys!  Just because it's on the internet, doesn't mean it's real.

  Depends on percentages, really.  I mean, the infestation obviously happened at warp speed. And you get the impression there's less than 10% of the population left, so that's a lot of stuff laying in every nook and cranny in America for not very many people.   At least that's my argument to support "logical" suspension of disbelief.   - OS

Legally you can't and not supposed to be able to buy the vials separate. Being radioactive I believe there is only one or two authorized companies that can handle tritium for domestic commercial purposes. IIRC

Buddy of mine had his house broken into two years ago. Stole a guitar, computer, tv, and some other stuff. Found his guitar on Craigslist at a pawn shop witch lead to the thief's arrest. Guy got probation and court cost, that was it. These scum do it because there is very little penalty. Hope this joker get more.

The most disturbing part of this to me is the non-chalancen of the thief. He walks around as if he belongs there - and the fact That he was walked in upon during a home burglary gives me the creeps!

Nothing worse.  My philosophy is that a man that will lie to you will steal from you.  A man that will steal from you will kill you.  Unfortunately, you can't shoot liars.

I think what they do in Saudi Arabia to thieves is something we civilized people should consider.  They cut off the hands.  Those without hands have a life time of constant justice, and wiping their butts effectively!

    There is no tangible backing, same as the US dollar. The reason that there is so much speculation in bitcoin is that unlike the US dollar the supply is not infinite. There is no government printing more on demand to drive inflation.