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Is that the one about the constipated mathematician?     Where he works it out with a pencil... 

When David left, so did I.

Faster glass is the fix for kids and indoors, the cannon 50mm f1.8 is the best at your budget, though I prefer the f1.4 myself b/c it's got a much better manual focus ring.   http://amzn.com/B00007E7JU

The kind that makes you hit trees at a dead run?

I'm betting it's NOT a very moving story.

As I sit here trying to come up with reasons to keep this thread open, I'm coming up blank.   I'm just going to shut this one down.

Mayonnaise is the foulest condiment ever invented.

All you're getting from me is an opinion, as I am NOT a gunfighter. I would say to practice instinctive shooting (point shooting; not aiming) at 5 and 7 yards, and aiming and firing at 15 yards.   Getting the gun out of your holster and into action quickly would be much more important to me than accuracy. Odds are that if you find yourself in a real world situation, it'll be stick it in his belly and fire.   Furthermore, I believe that we'd all do well to practice daily being aware of our surroundings. Most people are not. This will keep one out of a lot of bad situations with no gun required.

Pay to park was the final nail in the coffin for me.

As long as I have a margarita!

I have heard that Tractor Supply has attended SHOT show and is talking to gun manufacturers about adding a gun bar.

Dean A. Mellberg shoots and kills four people and wounds 22 at Fairchild Air Force Base hospital on June 20, 1994 with his AK type rifle.   His mass shooting was ended by Senior Airman Andrew Brown, age 25 with the 92nd Air Force Security Police Squadron.   While patrolling base housing areas on his bicycle a quarter mile away, he received the call over his radio and responded.   When he spotted the gunman some 70 yards away he ditched his bicycle and ordered Mellberg to drop his weapon.   When Mellberg turned and shot at Brown, he crouched and engaged him with his M9 Beretta.  Of four rounds fired, two missed the gunman, one hit his shoulder and a final round struck his head ending the fight.   If I recall correctly he did suffer PTSD after the incident not for ending Mellberg's life, but because he wished he was able to get there faster IOT save more lives.  I can only imagine how out of breath he was while making the shot after hauling ass on a bicycle, and 70 yards is a hell of a shot even when you're not winded.   I have a hard time getting all my rounds center mass at 25 yards while I'm not under stress in the comfort of a shooting range. I remember a story of a man who was shooting an enfield rifle from his porch at police officers.  One of them had only his sidearm to respond, and he was a competitive pistol shooter, but wasn't experienced at shooting at the long range he was faced with.  IIRC after the shootout ended they found a nice tight group of impacts that were about a foot too high because he wasn't sure what the holdover would be.   Other scenarios I can think of include shootings at theatres (if you're in the back row and they're near the front it's easily over 25 yards), across a gas station lot, some places of work, and so on. You just never know.   Obviously as a civilian it's not our responsibility to end killing sprees, despite being justified in protecting a third party.  And in some circumstances it may be better not to draw at all.  However as a community carry permit owners in general tend to be people who, by their very nature, want to help others.  To protect ourselves and our family is our first priority, but when something goes down there are a brave few who will run towards the threat rather than away if it means saving lives.   The odds of you needing a firearm in the first place are thankfully small, and the odds of you needing to be able to make a longer distance shot is even smaller still, but I can't imagine who ends up having to do so wishes they had LESS practice at longer ranges.  Even if you never need it, it's good to know yourself and know your weapon -- and more importantly know your limits.   Be an expert with your gun, know it's ins and outs, and learn what you can and can't do with it.

Academy never gets rid of their rifle cases.

Just wanted to say happy sink o de mayo. I've never understood this holiday but did participate this year ...

  I see. Good reasoning, and those two lenses would cover a lot of bases in regards to focal length.   I have a difficult time putting much value in budget zooms because of the typically slower variable apertures and the hit in image quality compared to primes. I think if you're looking to take the next step toward better IQ, primes are the way to go until you're ready to spend more money on zooms with fast constant apertures. Primes can be relatively inconvenient, but I feel the trade-off is worth it if IQ is the criteria, especially in low- and natural-light situations.

+1 for Stan. Sumner County needs some change up there.

A rule of thumb I use for the most 'appropriate' engagement range of a pistol or carbine in yards is the square of the barrel length in inches... ie, a 2" barrel is meant for approximately 4 yard engagements... a 3" barrel for approximately 9yd engagements... a 4" barrel for approximately 16yd engagements... a 5" barrel for ~25yd engagements... 8" for ~64yd... 10" for ~100yd... 16" for ~256yd... 20" for ~400yd... etc. It's not a science by any means, just a quick way for me to choose a barrel length based on what I'm going to do with it. So, for a 2-3" barreled subcompact pistol, I would personally focus on a 4-9yd practice distance. I'd care less about group size at that distance and more about how quickly I could make hits.

I'm with Musicman, this is just my "forum jockey's useless opinion" and I'm late at that.  :pleased:  I've always been a snubby fan, but sold my Colt Detective (most inaccurate) for a 36 (prettiest) which I sold for an LCR .38+P (ugliest) but it's light, accurate, and the double action out of the box is smooth as can be. At 13oz, it's a great carry gun and being made of all those fancy named polymers (plastic), I use it for my boat gun too.   I'm a Smith fan for sure, but for a practical carry snubby, I like the Ruger. Depends on what you're looking for. If someone wants a pretty snubby, they should've bought Blackvandriver's fully engraved Smith, now that was a handsome piece!

Sorry to hear that happened, especially at an event that's supposed to be all about community and all. Even if the other people weren't the type of scumbags to hit a parked car and leave, they'd have filed a report if their vehicle had any appreciable damage and wasn't some hunk of junk. So, at least you know what kind of folks you're probably dealing with.

I think it's a cotton tailed, rattle headed, copper mouth. The most dangerous of all.

The Performance Center model already has a factory trigger job. The grips come from the factory as well , can't say that S&W makes them , I doubt it.

I'm pretty sure I'm right because I had one just like it last year. But my dad would say it's either a copperhead or a rattlesnake depending on if it had a rattle or not....:) Sent barefoot from the hills of Tennessee

Are you saying that you just don't like snakes or have a lot of respect for them and they might make you hurt your self giving them room....................... :rofl: :rofl:

  I put both mustard and mayonnaise in my deviled eggs.  I like the 'tang' of the mustard and the creaminess imparted by the mayo.  I usually add in a little pickle relish or finely chopped dill pickles, too, for a bit more tang.  I like mayo pretty well (and do not like the mayonnaise-like substance called 'salad dressing' at all - it is too sweet.)

Well, kinda, but to be more specific it celebrates the French getting killed - and that sounds like a good reason to celebrate, to me :D . Since we all have to work, today, a buddy of mine had a Cuatro De Mayo party yesterday. I tried a new recipe for the first time as my contribution to the festivities. It is called 'Bricklayer Style Tacos.' I first saw it on the Create (PBS - 3) channel on a show called "Pati's Mexican Table" and have wanted to try it, since. The recipe: I made one, minor change in that I sprinkled adobo seasoning on the sirloin before cutting it up. I also sliced the sirloin thin, as if I were going to make fajitas, rather than cutting it into 'one inch pieces', figuring that would make it easier to chew - and it did (anyone else noticing that meat seems to be getting less and less tender these days no matter what you do to it?) I used Benton's Country bacon. Yes, it was good if I do say so.

The minimum number of orders has been met, so for those of you still who want in on this payments must be to me this week, they need to be paid by Friday morning as I will be sending the money off Friday afternoon to Pro Tech

Anything on an egg except a little dash of salt is a travesty. Potato salad on the other hand, is welcomed with eggs and mayo. But an egg should and does not need anything more than a small dash of salt. 

Guitar--->cable--->amp--->dime it. Done. (pedals in the background ain't mine!)

I remember seeing, somewhere, pictures and (maybe) a write-up about just such a thing that some guy custom built. IIRC, it had a 'skeletized', folding shoulder stock. It also had a rifle length barrel. It has been a couple of years since I saw that but I'll see if I can dig up a link for you. EDIT: Well, so far these, two little pics are the best I can do. You can search for NAA bicycle rifle to see if your luck is any better than mine. On BING, these pics showed up in the thumbnail preview but the full sized pics were unavailable (hence the small size.)

  Me and my brother used to float(Jon boat of course), from I-40 bridge to bridge in Kingston Springs, set limb lines out at midnight then check them at sunrise. We would usually catch between 15 and 25 catfish. That was the good ol days, now the Harpeth if full of canooing tourists.

  Thank you!

  Yeah. You pissed him off :)

Hit up Gunbroker , that's where mine came from http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=414308653

  A hillbilly is nothing but a redneck with legs of unequal length.

  No need for me to write all this out again, TDR got them all right the first time.  So score me "ditto" ...    I would also suggest that you take a course or two in statistics, with special emphasis on surveys, the introduction of bias, random sampling, margin of error, etc. as this is a poorly contrived and executed survey.  In addition, it's shocking that you aren't employing better technology to survey your respondents, even an old fart like me realizes there are much more convenient ways to sample populations via the internet ...

What sort of answers were you expecting from a hillbilly gun forum?   Sort of like going to a Weight Watcher's meeting and asking the women there if they think they're overweight.

What you are talking about is a point and shoot, not an aim and fire target activity. If you can do a 6" group at 25' with the guns you have named you should be fine.....jmho

Kahr in the pocket year round.   - OS

How do I circle an answer?   - OS

  Good question. I suppose the further question is: has it always been unlawful to carry a non-prohibited type or length knife past a posting that mentions "weapons" or specifically "knives"? Point being, where in TCA is definition of "weapon" that includes knives? The definition for "knife" does not include the term "weapon". So,  I don't know, we'd need some qualified legal opinions here.   Obviously, being asked to leave under threat of trespassing becomes more likely at the least.     Nothing legally prohibits it, with possible exception of a posting, which remains gray to me.  Obviously, being asked to leave under threat of trespassing becomes more likely.   Nothing changed regarding knives on school property.     The "going armed" condition with a knife ceases to exist on July 1. The only penalty aside from carrying one on school property or possible violation of posting statute is using a switchblade in a crime.     Nothing has changed regarding knives in schools (de facto none) or in federal buildings (2.5" blade or more). If all knives are still indeed legally "weapons", then I suppose nothing has changed about TN gov. buildings if the sign prohibits "weapons" and/or specifically "knives".   Note that the prohibition against "any other implement for infliction of serious bodily injury or death that has no common lawful purpose" will also be excised, so they can't use that for your "bladed hand instrument that is capable of inflicting serious bodily injury or death by cutting or stabbing a person with the instrument".   So real question for me is:   Has a legal "knife" always been a "weapon" under TN law? If it has, I see no difference that the change in the law makes. If not, then I don't see that you could be penalized for carrying one past a sign. I suppose I  do see how places that do searches can prohibit you from carrying them inside, in the same sense that they can demand you wear shoes and a shirt.   - OS

  Sometimes you can hear 25 or so from the same bird. ;)   Seriously, don't know how many times I've laid and listened to a mockingbird go through an amazing repertoire in middle of the night.   - OS

I enjoy watching the birds in my back yard, but haven't started feeding them. I live right off of Sam Ridley parkway and I-24 in Smyrna in an pretty quiet neighborhood. I think we have 70-80 houses and no through streets so very little traffic. My house is along the back side of a large wooded area so we have lots of deer, turkey, squirrels, rabbits, etc. I've seen a couple hawks, but I think they were just visiting. I've started enjoying nature in a different way... veggie gardening! I've never grown anything before, so this is all new to me. I have pretty much zero soil as I'm on a hill of solid rock, so everything is in pots. Just last night we had our very first salad made completely of things I grew; Swiss Chard and Romaine! It was great! I've got about 10 varieties of medium/hot peppers, as I am a spice lover. I can't wait for them to come in! Oh, we also ate our very first homegrown strawberry yesterday, too! Also on deck are some bush beans, tomatoes, crook-neck squash, white and red onions, cilantro, two kinds of mint, oregano, basil, and some more I'm sure I forgot. Here's a pic from earlier in the week. This is most of them... I pulled them into the garage to hide out from the storms they said were coming in. I had some leftovers that I didn't have pots for, so I just decided to do something crazy and throw some soil around the base of a few trees in the back yard and do some tree-trunk planting. I doubt it'll work, but what the heck! Here's one example: Next year I plan on growing some potatoes in stacked tires.

  Just to clarify: You may carry ANY handgun that you legally possess.  You can borrow a gun from your neighbor and carry it as long as you legally possess it.

both guns are good guns and will do what you want.  throw a dart and which one it hits will work. 

IMO... the Ruger, hands down. The trigger is SO much better than ANY Smith snubbie trigger, it's ridiculous. It's light, accurate, costs less; I wouldn't even look at a S&W after the Ruger.

Sign me up.  You've got to die of something.

      Yep. If someone is going to illegally sell weapons to criminals, it's going to be the damn ATF, not you.

http://www.breachbangclear.com/site/10-blog/696-arrow-cards.html   Arrow heads that break off from the sheet.  Couple different sizes and styles.  Seems like a pretty cool idea personally.

Not a story about someone else's reloads but about a guy I met shooting his own at Norris. He had been having some problems with his AR so I offered to take a look. When you pulled the trigger it would not fire, almost like it was on safe. I looked down inside the receiver and there was a primer that was in the bottom. I didn't think anything about it and shook it out. I told him he had a primer under his trigger and that was causing the problem. Knowing brass primer pockets can get loose over time I asked how many times the brass had been reloaded. He said he had no clue but he has been using the same brass for a long time. Next I asked him how much powder he was using. His reply, I swear, was "to the top". I asked what he meant and he said he would fill the case to the top of the case mouth then seat the bullet. At first I thought he was joking but he was serious. Then I thought that maybe the measured charge came to the top so I asked how much it weighed and he said he doesn't weigh the powder, just fill the case up. I told him he is lucky he hasn't hurt himself and he acted like I had insulted him.   When I got there I had my wife throw a bunch of clays on a bank past the 100 yard line. As I was shooting I guess I hit a couple of this guys clays. Same guy got extremely upset and yelled at me about shooting his clays. I apologized and put a stack of clays on his bench. Then he had to complain about the walk out there. I was on my crutches that I use to walk and he said I had no clue what kind of inconvenience it was to have to walk 100 yards. I chuckled and left.

The only place I consistently boycott is CTD. They have a long history of sticking it to their customers. On top of that the owner is a crook.