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[quote name="peejman" post="1175780" timestamp="1407239898"][url="http://www.spiders.us/species/filter/tennessee/"]http://www.spiders.us/species/filter/tennessee/[/url] There's no such thing as good spiders to have around. They will crawl in your ear and lay eggs. They are devil creatures[/quote] Fixed it for you

Francisco's money speech from Atlas Shrugged - its most excellent. “So you think that money is the root of all evil?” said Francisco d’Anconia. “Have you ever asked what is the root of money? Money is a tool of exchange, which can’t exist unless there are goods produced and men able to produce them. Money is the material shape of the principle that men who wish to deal with one another must deal by trade and give value for value. Money is not the tool of the moochers, who claim your product by tears, or of the looters, who take it from you by force. Money is made possible only by the men who produce. Is this what you consider evil? “When you accept money in payment for your effort, you do so only on the conviction that you will exchange it for the product of the effort of others. It is not the moochers or the looters who give value to money. Not an ocean of tears not all the guns in the world can transform those pieces of paper in your wallet into the bread you will need to survive tomorrow. Those pieces of paper, which should have been gold, are a token of honor–your claim upon the energy of the men who produce. Your wallet is your statement of hope that somewhere in the world around you there are men who will not default on that moral principle which is the root of money, Is this what you consider evil? “Have you ever looked for the root of production? Take a look at an electric generator and dare tell yourself that it was created by the muscular effort of unthinking brutes. Try to grow a seed of wheat without the knowledge left to you by men who had to discover it for the first time. Try to obtain your food by means of nothing but physical motions–and you’ll learn that man’s mind is the root of all the goods produced and of all the wealth that has ever existed on earth. “But you say that money is made by the strong at the expense of the weak? What strength do you mean? It is not the strength of guns or muscles. Wealth is the product of man’s capacity to think. Then is money made by the man who invents a motor at the expense of those who did not invent it? Is money made by the intelligent at the expense of the fools? By the able at the expense of the incompetent? By the ambitious at the expense of the lazy? Money is made–before it can be looted or mooched–made by the effort of every honest man, each to the extent of his ability. An honest man is one who knows that he can’t consume more than he has produced.’ “To trade by means of money is the code of the men of good will. Money rests on the axiom that every man is the owner of his mind and his effort. Money allows no power to prescribe the value of your effort except the voluntary choice of the man who is willing to trade you his effort in return. Money permits you to obtain for your goods and your labor that which they are worth to the men who buy them, but no more. Money permits no deals except those to mutual benefit by the unforced judgment of the traders. Money demands of you the recognition that men must work for their own benefit, not for their own injury, for their gain, not their loss–the recognition that they are not beasts of burden, born to carry the weight of your misery–that you must offer them values, not wounds–that the common bond among men is not the exchange of suffering, but the exchange of goods. Money demands that you sell, not your weakness to men’s stupidity, but your talent to their reason; it demands that you buy, not the shoddiest they offer, but the best that your money can find. And when men live by trade–with reason, not force, as their final arbiter–it is the best product that wins, the best performance, the man of best judgment and highest ability–and the degree of a man’s productiveness is the degree of his reward. This is the code of existence whose tool and symbol is money. Is this what you consider evil? “But money is only a tool. It will take you wherever you wish, but it will not replace you as the driver. It will give you the means for the satisfaction of your desires, but it will not provide you with desires. Money is the scourge of the men who attempt to reverse the law of causality–the men who seek to replace the mind by seizing the products of the mind. “Money will not purchase happiness for the man who has no concept of what he wants: money will not give him a code of values, if he’s evaded the knowledge of what to value, and it will not provide him with a purpose, if he’s evaded the choice of what to seek. Money will not buy intelligence for the fool, or admiration for the coward, or respect for the incompetent. The man who attempts to purchase the brains of his superiors to serve him, with his money replacing his judgment, ends up by becoming the victim of his inferiors. The men of intelligence desert him, but the cheats and the frauds come flocking to him, drawn by a law which he has not discovered: that no man may be smaller than his money. Is this the reason why you call it evil? “Only the man who does not need it, is fit to inherit wealth–the man who would make his own fortune no matter where he started. If an heir is equal to his money, it serves him; if not, it destroys him. But you look on and you cry that money corrupted him. Did it? Or did he corrupt his money? Do not envy a worthless heir; his wealth is not yours and you would have done no better with it. Do not think that it should have been distributed among you; loading the world with fifty parasites instead of one, would not bring back the dead virtue which was the fortune. Money is a living power that dies without its root. Money will not serve the mind that cannot match it. Is this the reason why you call it evil? “Money is your means of survival. The verdict you pronounce upon the source of your livelihood is the verdict you pronounce upon your life. If the source is corrupt, you have damned your own existence. Did you get your money by fraud? By pandering to men’s vices or men’s stupidity? By catering to fools, in the hope of getting more than your ability deserves? By lowering your standards? By doing work you despise for purchasers you scorn? If so, then your money will not give you a moment’s or a penny’s worth of joy. Then all the things you buy will become, not a tribute to you, but a reproach; not an achievement, but a reminder of shame. Then you’ll scream that money is evil. Evil, because it would not pinch-hit for your self-respect? Evil, because it would not let you enjoy your depravity? Is this the root of your hatred of money? “Money will always remain an effect and refuse to replace you as the cause. Money is the product of virtue, but it will not give you virtue and it will not redeem your vices. Money will not give you the unearned, neither in matter nor in spirit. Is this the root of your hatred of money? “Or did you say it’s the love of money that’s the root of all evil? To love a thing is to know and love its nature. To love money is to know and love the fact that money is the creation of the best power within you, and your passkey to trade your effort for the effort of the best among men. It’s the person who would sell his soul for a nickel, who is loudest in proclaiming his hatred of money–and he has good reason to hate it. The lovers of money are willing to work for it. They know they are able to deserve it. “Let me give you a tip on a clue to men’s characters: the man who damns money has obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it has earned it. “Run for your life from any man who tells you that money is evil. That sentence is the leper’s bell of an approaching looter. So long as men live together on earth and need means to deal with one another–their only substitute, if they abandon money, is the muzzle of a gun. “But money demands of you the highest virtues, if you wish to make it or to keep it. Men who have no courage, pride or self-esteem, men who have no moral sense of their right to their money and are not willing to defend it as they defend their life, men who apologize for being rich–will not remain rich for long. They are the natural bait for the swarms of looters that stay under rocks for centuries, but come crawling out at the first smell of a man who begs to be forgiven for the guilt of owning wealth. They will hasten to relieve him of the guilt–and of his life, as he deserves. “Then you will see the rise of the men of the double standard–the men who live by force, yet count on those who live by trade to create the value of their looted money–the men who are the hitchhikers of virtue. In a moral society, these are the criminals, and the statutes are written to protect you against them. But when a society establishes criminals-by-right and looters-by-law–men who use force to seize the wealth of disarmed victims–then money becomes its creators’ avenger. Such looters believe it safe to rob defenseless men, once they’ve passed a law to disarm them. But their loot becomes the magnet for other looters, who get it from them as they got it. Then the race goes, not to the ablest at production, but to those most ruthless at brutality. When force is the standard, the murderer wins over the pickpocket. And then that society vanishes, in a spread of ruins and slaughter. “Do you wish to know whether that day is coming? Watch money. Money is the barometer of a society’s virtue. When you see that trading is done, not by consent, but by compulsion–when you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing–when you see that money is flowing to those who deal, not in goods, but in favors–when you see that men get richer by graft and by pull than by work, and your laws don’t protect you against them, but protect them against you–when you see corruption being rewarded and honesty becoming a self-sacrifice–you may know that your society is doomed. Money is so noble a medium that is does not compete with guns and it does not make terms with brutality. It will not permit a country to survive as half-property, half-loot. “Whenever destroyers appear among men, they start by destroying money, for money is men’s protection and the base of a moral existence. Destroyers seize gold and leave to its owners a counterfeit pile of paper. This kills all objective standards and delivers men into the arbitrary power of an arbitrary setter of values. Gold was an objective value, an equivalent of wealth produced. Paper is a mortgage on wealth that does not exist, backed by a gun aimed at those who are expected to produce it. Paper is a check drawn by legal looters upon an account which is not theirs: upon the virtue of the victims. Watch for the day when it bounces, marked, ‘Account overdrawn.’ “When you have made evil the means of survival, do not expect men to remain good. Do not expect them to stay moral and lose their lives for the purpose of becoming the fodder of the immoral. Do not expect them to produce, when production is punished and looting rewarded. Do not ask, ‘Who is destroying the world? You are. “You stand in the midst of the greatest achievements of the greatest productive civilization and you wonder why it’s crumbling around you, while you’re damning its life-blood–money. You look upon money as the savages did before you, and you wonder why the jungle is creeping back to the edge of your cities. Throughout men’s history, money was always seized by looters of one brand or another, whose names changed, but whose method remained the same: to seize wealth by force and to keep the producers bound, demeaned, defamed, deprived of honor. That phrase about the evil of money, which you mouth with such righteous recklessness, comes from a time when wealth was produced by the labor of slaves–slaves who repeated the motions once discovered by somebody’s mind and left unimproved for centuries. So long as production was ruled by force, and wealth was obtained by conquest, there was little to conquer, Yet through all the centuries of stagnation and starvation, men exalted the looters, as aristocrats of the sword, as aristocrats of birth, as aristocrats of the bureau, and despised the producers, as slaves, as traders, as shopkeepers–as industrialists. “To the glory of mankind, there was, for the first and only time in history, a country of money–and I have no higher, more reverent tribute to pay to America, for this means: a country of reason, justice, freedom, production, achievement. For the first time, man’s mind and money were set free, and there were no fortunes-by-conquest, but only fortunes-by-work, and instead of swordsmen and slaves, there appeared the real maker of wealth, the greatest worker, the highest type of human being–the self-made man–the American industrialist. “If you ask me to name the proudest distinction of Americans, I would choose–because it contains all the others–the fact that they were the people who created the phrase ‘to make money.’ No other language or nation had ever used these words before; men had always thought of wealth as a static quantity–to be seized, begged, inherited, shared, looted or obtained as a favor. Americans were the first to understand that wealth has to be created. The words ‘to make money’ hold the essence of human morality. “Yet these were the words for which Americans were denounced by the rotted cultures of the looters’ continents. Now the looters’ credo has brought you to regard your proudest achievements as a hallmark of shame, your prosperity as guilt, your greatest men, the industrialists, as blackguards, and your magnificent factories as the product and property of muscular labor, the labor of whip-driven slaves, like the pyramids of Egypt. The rotter who simpers that he sees no difference between the power of the dollar and the power of the whip, ought to learn the difference on his own hide– as, I think, he will. “Until and unless you discover that money is the root of all good, you ask for your own destruction. When money ceases to be the tool by which men deal with one another, then men become the tools of men. Blood, whips and guns–or dollars. Take your choice–there is no other–and your time is running out.”

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They worship the power of their minds and to be paid for the work they produce by willing customers without.gov interference. Sounds like a great place to me. You should celebrate those people living in 10k sq ft homes because someone had to build it and roof it etc etc. That home represents jobs, not a screwover of the homeless as you seem to suggest

Jesus riding a donkey. All these posts telling the man not to do it? Sounds like his mind is made up and he has the appropriate funds to build this toy like he desires. Do it Capbyrd, do it.

How funny would it be to place against some high end rigs.   BTW, there is nothing wrong with Highpoints as far as reliability goes. They are a blowback, not locked breech, gun so they are going to be safe with any ammo you shoot out of them. And because they are blowback they are so much more reliable. I dare anyone to find someone who has actually owned a highpoint that says theirs wasn't reliable. Yes they are ugly as sin and cheap as hell but they are reliable.

For these times, I have a Bandit.   Fifty pounds of overeager mostly black Lab.   If it crawls, skitters, flies or flutters, she eats it.   She also thinks she is part cat, she will toss it through the air, roll on the ground with it, bat it, paw at it and finally, and thankfully leaving little to no clean-up, she eats it.   Last night a house spider about the size of my daughter's hand came in through the back door when Bandit went out. Bandit didn't miss a beat, it was like watching an acrobat catch a grenade, she dove, rolled, tossed and chomped. And that was the end of that spider.   She saves me a lot of hassle around the house, as both of my women folk are incapacitated by the sight of arachnids. Until recently I would use my 'spider removal unit' (a Pringles Can) to relocate said spider to the outdoors. I have never believed in killing a spider if I could easily relocate it. However, I have no qualms about allowing my dog to eat them. It is natures way.

As Six of these are Protech Knives, can you guess who is my favorite maker of Auto Knives?

Trolling level: 3 Goats & a bridge :D   http://youtu.be/KjQk244oW9c

What you are describing is precisely communism. I can't believe someone is on a gun forum, of all places, spouting this garbage.   Communism would be a beautiful thing if people weren't inherently sorry. That being said, the only way to motivate the average human is to reward productivity. "The resources" do NOT belong to everybody. Some people SHOULD have better healthcare, better food, and better doctors simply because they got off their @ss and produced enough to be able to afford these luxuries if they so desire.   If you work 6 days a week, and I lay my fat behind on the sofa watching Jerry Springer all day, what gives me the right to a portion of the fruit of YOUR labor?       Perhaps you'd be more into something written by Marx?

[quote name="ab28" post="1175941" timestamp="1407269976"] Right now is bad enough, with the monstrous income gap between the rich and poor. Homeless people are going hungry, and people can't afford medication, but there are others living in 10k sq foot houses with 2 people. Materialism is a curse, I'm glad I realized early on that owning things doesn't make you happy. Unfortunately, most everyone else spends their lives aquiring more and more stuff.[/quote] Am I understanding you to be one of those "wealth redistribution" folks? It sure reads that way. If people earn enough money to afford that 10,000 square foot house, why do you care if they get it? Or why should they be punished for being able to afford it?

I hope they don't try and use this where I live because 250 rounds is any given Saturday afternoon.

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I'll bet you this. If it was any other President they would be on the tube explaining the situation and comforting the public. And if it there was a Republican in the White House he would be crucified over this and blamed for it.

Not to mention all of the emissions created making ethanol in the USA, it causes more than it saves! Must people add more chemicals to this crap fuel, wonder how good that is for the environment? I've gotta guess that twice as much bad fuel is dumped because of this wonderful gov mandate! If we had sugar cane it would make sense.

Kudos to Luke E and Grady Jones' Gun Shop...I now have my scope base attached to my Ruger 10/22 Deluxe Sporter stainless. I really appreciate the good folks on TGO that are willing to help another hunter/shooter. A thank you also goes to the young man at Outpost Armory that gave me two screws that were used in the installation. Also, a thank you goes out to TGO, for creating a family of like minded individuals that are willing to help out another TGO family member. Thanks to all of you.

No, sorry, it's not. If I want to go green, I'll use an ax

  Hah, yeah. My chainsaw isn't polluting at all sitting in bits in my shed. Meanwhile I have branches hanging down in the yard :rolleyes:   How much emissions from the 5 gallons of bad gas I had to get rid of a while back also?   How much emissions from the manufacture of the carb cleaner, gasket set and fuel lines I'll need to get it all running again?   How much emissions from the long motorcycle ride I'll need to take to clear my head of the anger caused by government stupidity?

I assume we want Ebola here to do jobs American Viruses just won't do.

Payment is in. That is all. Joe W. P.S. That is for #57. If we don't make it that high any number will do.

http://www.spiders.us/species/filter/tennessee/   They're good spiders to have around.  They eat lots of other less desirable critters. 

Nuke it from orbit.... it's the only way to be sure.....

  Using not so subtle racist language like that is about the fastest way to get ignored and ridiculed in my book.  It tends to show the authors true colors.   The poor white Christian males will be just fine. White trash can put a pit bull in the backyard just as easily as any other race can.  But hey, why not assoicate it with the political assention of minorities to keep people outraged. :rolleyes:  

I still like the comparison of Chicago to Houston: http://gunfreezone.net/wordpress/index.php/2013/03/06/a-tale-of-two-cities-chicago-vs-houston/ [URL=http://s963.photobucket.com/user/runco0318/media/chicagovshouston_zpsf3e56cf0.jpg.html][/URL]

Could have! Also makes me think that if there was a bigger, smarter buck behind the one on your camera. He will remember the bad ju-ju and may not ever come back to that spot. I can't wait to try it out, I would have NEVER thought to hang a camera at 6 feet! But after seeing that video, knowing that didn't come up with it after a month of research, but years of footage? Yep, I'll try it. Plus, the proof was in the video on the cameras.

Wow, that's a good video. I'll put my cams head high

Maybe we will have a cool fall this year... probably not. 

Healthcare and food are not finite resources. More are produced every year and ag technology is allowing a greater yield per acre than ever before. Trees are renewable so homes are not finite. Your argument falls flat

I think that would be a statement from LaPierre; not a question.

Maybe a graphics card problem? Update the video driver?? Is it a VGA cable to the monitor? Are you low on RAM? Do you need to free up some space on the hard drive? Just some areas I would look into

WOW, you have almost as much money tied up in knifes as I do in molds. :cool: Non have the silly serrated edge, nice set ya got there.

How about the 5330.20, Certification of Compliance with 18 U.S.C. 922(g)(5)(B)?

MY EYES!!! What a hideous creature you found Dave. Got the hee-bee-jeebies now...

[quote name="tartanphantom" post="1175892" timestamp="1407260255"]The level of arachnophobia around here astounds me. Spiders are among the most beneficial creatures around us... brown recluse excluded.[/quote] Say what you want, but I've worked in ER's and OR's. Truth is those "beneficial" creatures have found many a peoples ear and caused damage. Not poisonous, doesn't mean they aren't harmful. I know it's typically considered a urban legend, but I've seen it several times in under 10 years. You're right on the brown recluse though, it's a real SOB.

Well, I got it for my camping gear and used it last time out. Works OK, uses some muscles you probably don't use too often so expect some soreness and the straps gave me blisters so gloves are probably a good idea.   I was told not to get the shortest one and didn't and got the medium one but I think the longer one might have been even better.

Looks like it's gonna shoot! :up:   Nothing wrong with a lever rifle, I don't care what anybody says.

  :) :)   Well, we've known about Ebola for almost 40 years, and the worst that has happened is this outbreak, which has only killed 700 people or so in a part of the world where health care is largely non-existent at all, so I'll let those with the heavy duty tinfoil worry about it. :)   - OS

Well, if you really would like an honest answer about tea just ask a Chinese or Japanese person what they think about Americans and tea.  I have a friend that is Chinese and was raise here in the states but was brought here at age two and is a US citizen the legal way. Any how he was raise in a strict Chinese lifestyle by a family that owns a few Chinese restaurants. They offer sweet tea and it is good tea, better than you will find at MCDonalds of KFC but they also offer the traditional unsweetened hot tea which is the only way the Chinese drink tea. We were talking about tea one day and he said his grand father always thought the American people had problems making up their minds on things and you could tell it by their tea.   They boil it to make it hot, put ice in it to make it cold, put sugar in it to make it sweet and lemon in it to make it sour which made them very confusing people to try and figure out for his grandfather. Kinda makes sense if you think about it................ :rofl: :rofl:

You shouldn't need to submit the Certification of Trust, since you are including the actual full trust document.

[quote name="Dolomite_supafly" post="1175804" timestamp="1407245371"]How funny would it be to place against some high end rigs. BTW, there is nothing wrong with Highpoints as far as reliability goes. They are a blowback, not locked breech, gun so they are going to be safe with any ammo you shoot out of them. And because they are blowback they are so much more reliable. I dare anyone to find someone who has actually owned a highpoint that says theirs wasn't reliable. Yes they are ugly as sin and cheap as hell but they are reliable.[/quote] The reliability issues don't stem from the blowback design, but from the magazine construction. My first handgun was a Hi-Point. It was not reliable at first. Then I purchased new magazines for it. At one time there was (and still may be) a thread devoted to the tweaking of the magazine feed lips to increase reliability as they had a tendency to spread over time when left loaded. The metal used to make the magazines is a bit thin & weak. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

Microtech?   Benchmade?   Uzi?   Schrade conversion knives. Gotta be Schrade.   /s :rofl:

I wonder how they handle Galt's 33 page radio address. Read the book, still have my copy with highlighted passages (some of which I have posted on tgo) and still enjoyed the movies. Looking forward to part 3. My question is not who, but where is John Galt. We're getting close...

Gross....   I hate spiders....They are NOT welcome in my house...

1) Burn your home and yard 2) Start over

A little napalm will fix that right up...

I would want a wider board to stand on.

Minus one brick of Federal (teehee!) As of 4:22 PM today.

  How's that?  You reckon he's a spy trying to figure out how to bust the international Hillbilly shotgun barrel cartel?

Government can't make any ex post facto laws, they can't give you data under public domain and then turn around sometime later and say the data is now prohibited.  Also, trying to force them to take the data down will result in a lawsuit that the state will loose over 1st amendment grounds.   If somebody illegally obtains and then provides the CA with all HCP permit holder records, they can publish it no matter what state law says.  (ie Pentagon Papers) The state could come after the person who obtained the information, but couldn't charge/file suit against the paper, or force them to take the information down.   And don't get mad at the paper over this, focus on the real root cause of the problem...  Why does the state need a list of law abiding citizens exercising their 2nd Amendment rights in the first place?  If the state didn't have the information to begin with the CA wouldn't have it either.