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This strikes close to home for me. There's a real prejudice against big people. Ok, fat folks. My late wife always was a kinda big girl. But when she got sick and the side effects of the medicines she was on, she gained a ton of weight. Her size almost doubled. She couldn't help it. Wasn't her fault. It was the meds. She hated being like that, but there was nothing she could do. I began to notice. Everywhere you go. People see a fat person and automatically assume that they're just a fat, lazy slob. They sneer, judge and instantly get a bad attitude toward that person. I think that's what happened here. The doctors, nurses and especially the cops took one look at this woman and decided she just wasn't worth their time and effort. No one considered that she had a history of serious health issues and just maybe she couldn't help being as big as she was. I believe that prejudice is what happened here. And that's why is pisses me off so bad.

Eliminate criminal penalties for carrying past signage and then people won't be leaving guns unattended in cars.....this problem solves itself.

Big does not make them less human and does not mean they don't have feelings and they deserve the same respect as any one else.....JMHO!!!

Well, that's interesting and unfortunately makes me wonder if her adult children weren't contacted by the hospital or were contacted by the hospital and declined to assist. It is probably safe to say that we aren't hearing all of the details here, and that we are incensed by what we have seen in the police video which, as disturbing as it is to folks with gentle sensibilities, tells one facet of the story. I'm glad I am not a cop.

I would like to point out that this statement stands above your opinion @bersaguy.

JMHO..... but I think the hospital failed the woman for not trying to give her the medical attention she was seeking and needed. Instead they just kick her out to the curb.

First and foremost when you’re in a position of power and authority you have a responsibility to remain professional. Yeah, cops get sh*t on. That comes with the territory. They know that when they take the job. None are forced to serve. I’m allowing everything you say to justify the cops behavior. Yes, she was a big woman, but if you look at the video she obviously could not control her own body weight. Maybe it was medical, maybe it was “drug behavior” as been speculated. Maybe just like with the killer cops of Tyre Nichols it’s their culture to behave in the manner that we observed on video. The cops were the emotional ones on scene. Yelling about coffee, oatmeal and getting a uniform soiled. They even threatened to pile on charges. Their immediate response was arrest for noncompliance instead of taking a moment to assess the situation. When the deceased passed out in the back of the patrol unit, the cop pulls her hair to lift her up. What’s right about that? If they behave like that on a trespassing call, how do they handle more serious crimes? The cops had no control over what the hospital or the doctors decided, but there is nothing that says they couldn’t call an ambulance for someone who appeared to be in distress. They simply wanted to end the interaction as soon as possible with no concern about the deceased medical complaints. It’s the attention to detail that’s required on every call. Yeah, the job gets monotonous. Yes, they’re seen this a hundred times before. Yes, people claim to to be ill to avoid jail, but at the end of the day just like there are no routine traffic stops, every interaction with a citizen should be treated as unique. If they’re too lazy or too burnt out to do the job properly they should find a job more in line with their skills and education.

Let’s concede that everything you say is true. I’ll agree that there may be negligence on behalf of the family. I read in one of the stories someone said the deceased had previously visited a hospital and exhibited drug like behavior. What kind of diagnosis is that? Sounds more like an opinion. So, we’ve established the family my be negligent, what about the subhuman behavior exhibited by law enforcement on the scene? That’s the real issue here. The total lack of empathy by public servants towards a human being. An elder worthy of dignity and respect.

Department of Safety and TBI got cold feet, and did not want to remove the "Intent to go armed" following talks with their masters, so they pulled support to strike the clause, Chairman Ragan will run his original bill to define the term. I smell another law suit coming.

P220 Carry. It's similar to a commander 1911 size version of the P220. Mine has been super reliable with all types of projectile profiles and types. P229 sized slide with P220 lower. Fits P229 holsters. DA/SA has become far less popular in recent years but I still like them. It's similar to having a stick shift car. If you know how to drive, it's good. I like 45s. The original Springfield XDS 45 post recall is another I still like. Before the GRIP ZONE. This is another 45 that's been an absolute omnivore when it comes to ammo. I got it back in the G43 days when the 9mm capacity advantage was only 1 more round and the XDS was similar in size to the G43. XDS came with decent sights stock. Both of the P220 carry and XDS above run reliably dirty. 45 ACP isn't popular anymore because of projectile tech advancements. The question I always ask everyone who preaches 9mm is: how many cases of premium JHP rounds do you have on hand? If the answer is one 20 round box, I'd take the 45. FMJ to FMJ the 45 will be the winner for me. For the record, I like all calibers but I feel like this unpopular opinion is often overlooked in the echo chamber. Also, +1 for the Ruger P series, cool workhorse guns.

According to Newsweek the family lives in Rhode Island and the deceased was planning a move back to Tennessee to live with a friend. Edwards had her own wheelchair due to a stroke and broken ankle, but it was left at the airport when Edwards was taken to the hospital after leaving the plane. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwigo5ahlbn9AhVQlGoFHVY4C_QQvOMEKAB6BAgLEAE&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.newsweek.com%2Flisa-edwards-knoxville-police-family-statement-belong-hell-tennessee-1784312&usg=AOvVaw3V8BlIAgco783j6tJiITSC

I agree, she has feelings and should be treated with respect regardless of what she did or didn't do wrong to get herself into that condition and that's not just @bersaguy's opinion, it's a fact.

She's a big lady. They had problems lifting her into the truck. When they did get her in she got herself out. Probably would have gone down differently if she'd been a 17 to 50 year old man. I will say they used unprofessional language that wasn't called for. I understand their frustration and people talk to police like they are dogs, but police need to maintain professionalism. I couldn't do it. Except for language, what should they have done differently? Should they tell all of the doctors in both hospitals..." Hey I know you guys have PhDs, but I'm a cop and I'm more qualified in the medical field than you" Educate me. I've been wrong before and I will again, but the arguments seem emotionally based. You're the cop What would you do.

Italian made Beretta .380. DA/SA, this version has the safety only no decocker. Italian police surplus marked for the Guardia di Finanza (basically Italy's version of Treasury Agents). Two 3-round magazines, one surplus one purchased new from Beretta. A bit of honest holster wear but in great mechanical shape. $500 FTF in the Nashville area, no trades please.

Throwing another oldie out there. You can get the Jesse Stone series of TV movies on Amazon. Well worth the watch. Tom Selleck is always great!

This is all true however the way they spoke to and treated her was unacceptable. Being decent to an elderly woman shouldn't be difficult.

One step they could implement that would help reduce the number of firearms that would be left in vehicles is if they made it legal for people to carry their firearms and ammunition with them into stores, work, hotels, etc... Add that to any letter to your representatives. Their own rules are helping to exacerbate the problem, not that we don't see that everyday.

If only we could make stealing illegal.

Gun Cleaning Mat Rifle Build AR Gun Maintenance Gunsmithing Tools Cleaning New We used them in our gunsmith shop and we replace all my mats with this. We got too many and selling it cheap. We paid around $25 after shipping and tax. This mat is about 2.5 pounds. For sale $20 meet in Murfreesboro. Prefer to meet in Murfreesboro as shipping for 2.5 pounds is around $7-$12. Can do that too $27 shipped within TN and insured. In the cover picture, it looks like it may not roll out to the same length of the other one but they are exactly the same size but ours is more than 2x thicker. You going to love it when you roll this one out, it feels solid. $20 36 by 12 Inches

Comes with two mags, fiber optic front sight, Ruger case and manual. A previous owner had some stippling done. It’s well done and really helps with the grip. $300 north of Nashville. SOLD

(10) boxes of Sellier & Bellot 147 grain FMJ (2) boxes of SIG Copper Hunting 120 grain (2) boxes of SIG Supersonic 125 grain (14) boxes = 280 rounds for $220 I live in Chattanooga, but I am in both Knoxville and Nashville weekly.

Hear, hear!!!! I cannot agree with this post more!!! The XDs does not get NEARLY the love that it should. I mean, heck, a .45 that is less than one inch in width!! Amazing.

This photo represents my basic philosophy on having enough firearms when I was younger. Now in my fifties imagine the same philosophy only now I use a “tactical” trailer being pulled by my turbo diesel Willys jeep(Roxor) or my ATV. Note: I’ve both acclimated to my age and physical limitations, while additionally ever increasing the number of “tools” should they become necessary. Make a mental note: I have no offspring, find my grave after my passing to survive any conceivable disaster scenario

Appreciate the offer, happy with my Sig P365 SAS.

Local news stations have interviewed 2 of her sons and her daughter in law. They, the stations, have made it appear as though they live in this area. Let's assume they don't for the sake of argument, she was suppose to be moving back to TN to move in with a friend. This was according to the DIL. If that were the case and she was just discharged from a nursing home in RI common sense says someone in her condition would probably need someone at the airport to pick her up.

This is more my line of thinking.

I appreciate the response. There's just so much about this interaction not available.

Latest Amendment to HB 1005 Amendment No. Signature of Sponsor AMEND Senate Bill No. 1503 House Bill No. 1005* by deleting all language after the enacting clause and substituting: SECTION 1. Tennessee Code Annotated, Section 39-17-1307, is amended by deleting subsection (a). SECTION 2. Tennessee Code Annotated, Section 39-17-1307(b)(1), is amended by deleting "unlawfully". SECTION 3. Tennessee Code Annotated, Section 39-17-1307, is amended by deleting subsection (e). SECTION 4. Tennessee Code Annotated, Section 39-17-1307, is amended by deleting subsection (g). SECTION 5. Tennessee Code Annotated, Section 39-17-1313(a), is amended by deleting "lawfully carries a handgun pursuant to § 39-17-1307(g)" and substituting "is not prohibited from possessing or carrying a firearm". SECTION 6. Tennessee Code Annotated, Section 39-17-1364, is amended by deleting "§ 39-17-1307, or". SECTION 7. Tennessee Code Annotated, Section 39-17-1351, is amended by deleting the language "handgun" wherever it appears and substituting instead the language "firearm" and by deleting the language "handguns" wherever it appears and substituting instead the language "firearms". SECTION 8. Tennessee Code Annotated, Section 39-17-1351(r)(1), is amended by deleting the subdivision and substituting instead: (1) A facially valid handgun permit, firearms permit, weapons permit, or license issued by another state shall be valid in this state according to its terms and shall be treated as if it is a firearm carry permit issued by this state. SECTION 9. Tennessee Code Annotated, Section 39-17-1365, is amended by deleting the language "handgun" wherever it appears and substituting instead the language "firearm". SECTION 10. Tennessee Code Annotated, Section 39-17-1366, is amended by deleting the language "handgun" wherever it appears and substituting instead the language "firearm" and by deleting the language "handguns" wherever it appears and substituting instead the language "firearms". SECTION 11. Tennessee Code Annotated, Section 10-7-504(a)(2)(A), is amended by deleting the language "handgun carry permit" and substituting instead the language "firearm carry permit" and by deleting the language "handgun carry permits" and substituting instead the language "firearm carry permits". SECTION 12. Tennessee Code Annotated, Section 10-7-504(o), is amended by deleting the language "handgun carry permit" wherever it appears and substituting instead the language "firearm carry permit" and by deleting the language "handgun permit holder" and substituting instead the language "firearm carry permit holder". SECTION 13. Tennessee Code Annotated, Section 33-6-413(b), is amended by deleting the language "handgun carry permit" wherever it appears and substituting instead the language "firearm carry permit". SECTION 14. Tennessee Code Annotated, Section 36-3-626, is amended by deleting the language "handgun" wherever it appears and substituting instead the language "firearm" and by deleting the language "as defined in § 39-17-1319" and substituting "as defined in § 39- 11-106". SECTION 15. Tennessee Code Annotated, Section 38-3-122(c), is amended by deleting the language "handgun carry permit" wherever it appears and substituting instead the language "firearm carry permit". SECTION 16. Tennessee Code Annotated, Section 38-6-105, is amended by deleting the language "handgun permit" and substituting instead the language "firearm carry permit". SECTION 17. Tennessee Code Annotated, Section 38-8-116, is amended by deleting the language "handgun carry permit" wherever it appears and substituting instead the language "firearm carry permit". SECTION 18. Tennessee Code Annotated, Section 39-16-702(b), is amended by deleting the language "handgun carry permit" wherever it appears and substituting instead the language "firearm carry permit". SECTION 19. Tennessee Code Annotated, Section 39-17-1309(e)(8), is amended by deleting the language "handgun" wherever it appears and substituting instead the language "firearm". SECTION 20. Tennessee Code Annotated, Section 39-17-1309(e)(11), is amended by deleting the language "handgun" wherever it appears and substituting instead the language "firearm". SECTION 21. Tennessee Code Annotated, Section 39-17-1313(a), is amended by deleting the language "handgun carry permit" wherever it appears and substituting instead the language "firearm carry permit". SECTION 22. Tennessee Code Annotated, Section 39-17-1321(a), is amended by deleting the language "handgun" and substituting "firearm". SECTION 23. Tennessee Code Annotated, Section 39-17-1321(c)(2), is amended by deleting the language "handgun permit" and substituting instead the language "firearm carry permit". SECTION 24. Tennessee Code Annotated, Section 39-17-1350(g), is amended by deleting the language "handgun" wherever it appears and substituting instead the language "firearm". SECTION 25. Tennessee Code Annotated, Section 39-17-1352, is amended by deleting the language "handgun" wherever it appears and substituting instead the language "firearm". SECTION 26. Tennessee Code Annotated, Section 39-17-1359(g)(1), is amended by deleting the language "handgun carry permit" wherever it appears and substituting instead the language "firearm carry permit". SECTION 27. Tennessee Code Annotated, Section 40-32-101, is amended by deleting the language "handgun carry permit" wherever it appears and substituting instead the language "firearm carry permit". SECTION 28. Tennessee Code Annotated, Section 40-32-105(i)(5), is amended by deleting the language "handgun carry permit" and substituting instead the language "firearm carry permit". SECTION 29. Tennessee Code Annotated, Section 49-6-816, is amended by deleting the language "handgun carry permit" wherever it appears and substituting instead the language "firearm carry permit". SECTION 30. Tennessee Code Annotated, Section 49-7-161(b)(2), is amended by deleting the language "handgun carry permit" and substituting instead the language "firearm carry permit". SECTION 31. Tennessee Code Annotated, Section 49-50-803(b)(2), is amended by deleting the language "handgun carry permit" and substituting instead the language "firearm carry permit". SECTION 32. Tennessee Code Annotated, Section 50-3-201(d), is amended by deleting the language "handgun permits to carry a handgun" and substituting instead the language "firearm carry permits to carry a firearm". SECTION 33. Tennessee Code Annotated, Section 50-1-312(a)(1), is amended by deleting the language "handgun carry permit" and substituting instead the language "firearm carry permit". SECTION 34. Tennessee Code Annotated, Section 70-2-104(g)(3)(B), is amended by deleting the language "handgun carry permit" wherever it appears and substituting instead the language "firearm carry permit". SECTION 35. Tennessee Code Annotated, Section 70-4-117(d), is amended by deleting the language "handgun" wherever it appears and substituting instead the language "firearm". SECTION 36. Tennessee Code Annotated, Section 70-4-117(e), is amended by deleting the language "hand gun" and substituting "firearm". SECTION 37. Tennessee Code Annotated, Section 70-5-101(c), is amended by deleting the language "handgun" wherever it appears and substituting instead the language "firearm". SECTION 38. Tennessee Code Annotated, Section 70-5-101(d), is amended by deleting the language "hand gun" and substituting "firearm". SECTION 39. Tennessee Code Annotated, Section 8-21-401(f)(1), is amended by deleting the language "handgun permits" and substituting instead the language "firearm carry permits". SECTION 40. Tennessee Code Annotated, Section 39-17-1351(b), is amended by deleting the subsection and substituting instead: (b) Except as provided in subsection (r), a resident of Tennessee who is a United States citizen or lawful permanent resident, as defined by § 55-50-102, may apply to the department of safety for an enhanced firearm carry permit. If the applicant is at least eighteen (18) years of age and is not prohibited from possessing a firearm in this state pursuant to § 39-17-1307(b), 18 U.S.C. § 922(g), or any other state or federal law, and the applicant otherwise meets all of the requirements of this section, then the department shall issue a permit to the applicant. SECTION 41. Tennessee Code Annotated, Section 39-17-1351(x)(1), is amended by deleting the language "twenty-one (21) years of age" and substituting instead the language "eighteen (18) years of age". SECTION 42. Tennessee Code Annotated, Section 39-17-1307, is amended by adding the following as a new subsection: ( ) (1) It is an offense for a minor to carry, with the intent to go armed, a firearm. (2) (A) A violation of subdivision ( )(1) is a delinquent act and, in addition to any other disposition authorized by law, the juvenile may be required to perform not more than one hundred (100) hours of community service work to be specified by the judge, and the juvenile's driving privileges shall be suspended for a period of one (1) year in accordance with the procedure set out in title 55, chapter 10, part 7. (B) A second or subsequent violation of subdivision ( )(1) is a delinquent act and, in addition to any other disposition authorized by law, the juvenile may be required to perform not less than one hundred (100) nor more than two hundred (200) hours of community service work to be specified by the judge, and the juvenile's driving privileges shall be suspended for a period of two (2) years in accordance with the procedure set out in title 55, chapter 10, part 7. (3) A firearm carried with the intent to go armed in violation of this subsection ( ) must be confiscated and disposed of in accordance with § 39-17- 1317. (4) It is an exception to the application of subdivision ( )(1) if the juvenile is: (A) In attendance at a hunter safety course or a firearm safety course; (B) Engaging in practice in the use of a firearm or target shooting at an established range or club authorized by the governing body of the jurisdiction in which the range or club is located or any other area where the discharge of a firearm is not prohibited; (C) Engaging in an organized competition involving the use of a firearm, or participating in or practicing for a performance by an organized group which is exempt from federal income taxation under § 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 (26 U.S.C. § 501(c)(3)), as amended, and which uses firearms as part of the performance; (D) Hunting or trapping pursuant to a valid license issued to the juvenile pursuant to title 70; (E) Engaging in the lawful protection of livestock from predatory animals; (F) Accompanied by the juvenile's parent or guardian and is being instructed by the adult or guardian in the use of the firearm carried by the juvenile; (G) On real property which is under the control of an adult and has the permission of that adult and the juvenile's parent or legal guardian to carry, with the intent to go armed, a firearm; (H) Traveling to or from an activity described in this subdivision () (4) with an unloaded firearm; (I) At the juvenile's residence and, with permission of the juvenile's parent or legal guardian, is justified in using physical force or deadly force; or (J) Transporting or storing an unloaded firearm in a motor vehicle while on or utilizing a public or private parking area if: (i) The juvenile is licensed to drive a motor vehicle pursuant to title 55, chapter 50, part 3; (ii) The juvenile's motor vehicle is parked in a location where the motor vehicle is permitted to be; and (iii) The firearm being transported or stored in the motor vehicle: (a) Is kept from ordinary observation if the juvenile is in the motor vehicle; or (b) Is kept from ordinary observation and locked within the trunk, glove box, or interior of the juvenile's motor vehicle or a container securely affixed to the motor vehicle if the juvenile is not in the motor vehicle. (5) As used in this subsection ( (A) "Juvenile" means a person less than eighteen (18) years of age; and (B) "Unloaded" means: (i) The firearm does not have ammunition in the chamber, cylinder, clip, or magazine; and (ii) The firearm, and the ammunition for the firearm, are not carried on the person of a juvenile or are not in such close proximity to the juvenile that the juvenile could readily gain access to the firearm and the ammunition and load the firearm. SECTION 43. If any provision of this act or its application to any person or circumstance is held invalid, then the invalidity does not affect other provisions or applications of the act that can be given effect without the invalid provision or application, and to that end, the provisions of this act are severable. SECTION 44. This act takes effect July 1, 2023, the public welfare requiring it.

Her son and DIL have been interviewed by ever local tv station in the last month since it happened. They certainly appear to have made themselves available locally all of a sudden. No time to bring mom to Tn ? Also been stated more than once her DIL , August, sat down to watch the bodycam footage with the DA where her son refused to. She didn't just decide to hop a plane she was living in a nursing home in RI and they are the ones who arranged the flight here. DIL stated on camera she was in her right mind and was able to do for herself.

https://www.reuters.com/business/finance/biden-orders-government-study-digital-dollar-other-cryptocurrency-risks-2022-03-09/ The newest story is from March of 2022 that I saw.

All my purchases are digital already.

Fake diamonds still sparkle

You sparked a memory of my first handgun. I had just moved to Memphis and a guy I was in school with was telling me where to stay away from and where was safe-a complicated issue when you’re not from there. He asked “what gun do you carry?” I confessed that I didn’t. He said “ you have to have a gun-this is Memphis”. He sold me a Rossi stainless steel .38 spl with Pachmayr grips for $100. It was my backup when I worked LE. It goes to the range once a year. I just replaced the firing pin last Fall and she’s back to factory spec. I tried to sell it once at the Knoxville gun show, but the guy changed his mind. I was so glad he did as I drove home. It won’t be up for sale until I’m gone- even then my son will probably want it.

Sounds good to me! As for selling guns, Nancy Reagan said it best…”Just Say No!”

I think most of us understand this...

Honestly, it's probably a good thing I have a wife. Otherwise I would just be sitting on gunsafes watching football on a 110" tv, eating funyuns and Ramen.

Yes I have a lot of the same feelings but at times I feel guilty for wanting a new/ different gun when I already have so many and some I rarely if ever shoot, so I will sell some too help me justify the new purchase.

I've always been a cash guy. I have one credit card and its used mainly for internet purchases. I pay it off at the end of each month. If I can't pay cash, I don't need it. However, much of the younger generation already deals mostly in electronic money. They're used to it. Many use a debit or credit card daily for something as small as a soft drink at the local store. How many of you pay your monthly bills through automatic payment plans or receive direct deposits? No doubt at some point in the future cash will go away. Also bear in mind that the vast majority of "money" in this world is actually nothing more than numbers in a computer somewhere. If you want to make a large cash withdrawal, many banks need a couple of days to get the cash together as they don't have it on hand. BTW: they will report a large withdrawal to the feds. An all electronic economy opens the doors to all kinds of nefarious possibilities. Never underestimate the criminal mind. And that includes our elected criminals as well. May be a moot point anyway. Biden's EO simply authorizes a study into the possibility of an all electronic economy. Ain't nothing written in stone yet.

It really does relate to the 2A in a very fundamental way. If paper money goes away and is replaced with digital (and don't think that can't happen. Almost all your bank transactions and credit card purchases are digital) then Uncle Sugar will be able to monitor every purchase made by everyone. Data drives the modern world, and a fully digital economy would make it easy to see where you and I spend our money. The implications go far beyond the 2A, of course. I'm an old, retired guy. With the current ESG protocols it would be pretty easy to say, "Hey, that guy's retired, he sure doesn't need to fill his gas tank more than once a month", and set it up so that the gas station won't take my money card. I can think of some benefits, too, but those I can think of are not worth the downside.

Thanks @Links2k, I found the long version too once I knew what I was looking for. What a terrible situation. I don't care what kind of information those officers were operating on, there's no excuse for treating an old lady like that. She was clearly not well and I'd love to hear how the ER justifies kicking her out and calling the cops on her.

I haven't been squirrel hunting or eaten any in many years. But I do remember Grandma frying up a batch now and then. Good eatin'.

My grandmother always pan fried squirrel after rolling the pieces in an egg batter and then in flour with her secret seasoning. I think when my grandfather stopped hunting about 50 years ago was last time I had squirrel. I do shoot the occasional squirrel that is being a pest but some creature cleans it up by the next morning sp it doesn't go to waste.

I’ll be the first to put my toe in the water. I worked as an EMT for 12 years and everything on this video goes against the care I was trained to render. I would love to really unload on the police and medical staff, but fear of my comments living forever in print and could come back to bite me in the ass later. THE PROBLEM IS THAT SATAN IS ALIVE AND WELL AND FINDING PEOPLE WITH ANY MEASURE OF SHAME IS GETTING HARDER TO DO EVERY DAY. IN THE WORLD I GREW UP IN PEOPLE HAD THE DECENCY TO SHOW COMPASSION AND CARE. I FEAR CHRISTIAN SOLDIERS ARE ABOUT TO BE CALLED UPON. OMG THIS MAKES ME SICK TO MY STOMACH.

Some of my personal picks for underappreciated handguns: Beretta PX4 - These are excellent DA/SA platforms and they offer a real reduction in recoil over their tilting block counterparts. Quite accurate too. SIG PRO line - Another polymer DA/SA that's a solid platform with some agency issue and track record behind it. Unfortunately I think it's being jettisoned in preference to the P320. S&W SD9 / 40 - While this model plays second banana to the M&P line, and is also tainted by lingering negative associations with the Sigma, it still remains a capable and affordable offering. Stoeger Cougar - Beretta abandoned this predecessor to the PX4 line, but Stoeger continues to manufacture them. They are a bit bulky for what they are, however. Steyr M9A1 - The "other" Austrian striker pistol, the Steyr is a design that gives up nothing to Glock on the engineering front. However, its adoption rate is microscopic due to Steyr's uniformly horrible US marketing efforts.