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Wish the NTSB would spend half as much time addressing cell phone use, girl texting a friend about commencement rear ended me last week while I was sitting still waiting on the light to change on west end in broad daylight.  :rant:

  The only thing I'd add to the conversation is that the "profiteers", as you term them, are not the cause of the current problem.  They are simply taking advantage of the market distortion created by federal and state governments, where those two groups have heaped an enormous amount of uncertainty into what was a fairly stable commodity pre-Newtown, Senate action, NY SAFE Act, et al.  Anything, any object or service, is worth exactly what someone else is willing to pay, no matter how you or I feel about whether the transaction, or multitude of transactions, help or hurt us.  The market for ammunition will remain ridiculous until either the people willing to pay premium prices for ammo run out of money or the market distortion created by national and state government is removed.  Purchase limits at the retail level can help alleviate the symptoms of the ammo shortage problem, but until the root cause of the market distortion - government threat of action - is removed, the uncertainty will remain, and prices will stay high.  Right now, those who can get ammo are selling at a premium to those who cannot because those who cannot are willing to pay extra for a box today v. a box tomorrow at a lower price since there is no guarantee that the lower priced rounds will become available tomorrow.  Remove the artificial market distortion created by those in government, and prices will behave as they used to, or close, as there will cease to be a resellers' market for a commodity you can get from any normal retailer.

I am a huge proponent of Free-Market Capitalism. I am also a huge proponent of Ethics.   My :2cents:  on Scalping common goods (or as some incorrectly called price-gouging):   (Please do not read this unless you understand that this post is NOT directed at anyone, and the intention is purely to freely express my censored opinion in this subject)   What value have Scalpers added to the ammunition that justifies reselling it to others at an inflated price? Besides getting first in line and not intending to use it....   I personally don't like the feeling I get when people justify screwing...er....scalping other people over with the words 'but it's the free market'. Seems like this is a common defense I see either on the internet or on tv when people openly justify scalping. Makes me sick to my stomach that I praise such a system on a daily basis.   There is nothing ethical about taking advantage of others; scalping practices such as reselling ammo as well as other common good that are difficult to aquire drives the resentment many people have for capitalism. This makes it very hard for people to promote free market ideas. Why would anyone who truely loves the free market engage in practices that would deter people from supporting such a great system? ...other than to make a quick and short personal gain at the expence of others...   I love capitalism to death. I hate when people justify unethical behavior by hiding behind 'the free market'. :usa:   Also, I strongly apologize if this comes off as a rant...... :stalk:

SOME components are difficult to find....but that's just like factory ammo, thats why you put away a good stash. A lot of my loads use powders very few people use. I've found excellent results with some powders that are not run of the mill for the respective calibers I use them for. Therefore, the only common denominator for me is primers. Thankfully they are easy to store and take up very little space. You can store 20,000 primers in the same general space as a thousand rounds of factory boxed ammo.

That sign only applies to people bringing in guns for work, trade, etc. It is not intended for HCP carriers. There are several discussions on this topic already. The store I work in has no problem with carrying, but we do ask that If you are going to unholster (checking holsters etc.) That you clear it outside before you bring it in. You wouldn't believe how many people have pulled out loaded guns and then asked if we had a holster to fit it. Almost daily. You'd also be surprised how many guns I've cleared with rounds in the chamber and mags that were "not loaded". All guns are always loaded.;)

My personal choice, if alcohol touches my lips, I don't drive.

A perk of owning your own business is being the boss and setting your own hours. That being said, I keep thinking about going to Walmart and beating the scalpers out of the loot. I mean camp out if I have to. And then resell it to my friends and fellow shooters for absolutely zero profit. I think I would enjoy telling the guy in line behind me that it isn't for me, because I reload and don't shoot crappy Win White box ammo anyhow, that I'm going to make sure actual shooters get ammo at normal prices, instead of some sleaze bag with no job hanging around Walmart just looking to rip my friends off. How's that for an economic plan?

  Well, in my world, a person that goes and buys ammo at regular prices online or camps at a Walmart with 6 or 7 of his family and friends so he can get by a purchasing limit so they can snatch up every box of ammo they have and sell it at 3 times the price is a common thief in my book, not an asset to society.  Obviously some of you don't agree and that's fine, but that's the way I see it. It's wrong on more levels than one. Just because some people are foolish enough to pay don't make it right. They are also making money in cash and not paying taxes on it. That's the same as the people that just decides to not pay their income taxes while everyone else does.   Anyway, I'm done......I'm pretty much set on everything I shoot and I didn't pay ridiculous prices for it either, but it did take patience and some luck.  I will be glad though when things get back to normal IF it ever does. Of course I'm sure "normal" is gonna change too.  Just like it did 4 years ago.

I think the DUI laws in regard to the statutory limit are fine as they are right now.  You can already be convicted with a below statutory limit BAC, the police just have to prove it with more than just the BAC.  If I were to change anything with DUI's it would be in the punishment portion not the statutory limit.  Mainly I would like to see 3rd offense DUI become the felony charge instead of 4th offense currently.

Texting and driving is more dangerous than drunk driving as a whole. At least drunk drivers are normally out after hours. I have to dodge text-happy soccer moms with my kids in the car. Saw one on the interstate pass me the other day going 80 mph and swerving as he approached and went by. Saw him in the rear view doing the "up-down" as he texted. People like that are a way bigger danger. At least drunk drivers are paying attention, albeit impaired.

It's the Temperance movement all over.  I say F, the mothers!

I may try my Glock in "slut red"

It is pretty simple....you either follow the rule or not.    If you ARE there to try out a holster or to sell your gun or to get work done on your gun  then unloading it before you go in makes an awful lot of sense.   Keep in mind that there is not an "IQ test" to buy a gun and there are a lot of people with frankly SCARY gun handling habits out there. Do YOU want to be the guy behind the counter when Bubba who has "been around guns all his life" hauls out his 1911 with finger on the trigger pointed at you asking if you have a holster for his gun?     The rules like that are there for the safety of the employees when people bring guns into the shops. I have heard of several instances where people fired supposedly "unloaded" guns into the floor or into the shelf pulling it out of a holster or out of a gun case to show it to the salesman behind the counter. I have also heard of instances where the SALESPEOPLE fired supposedly unloaded guns into the floor while clearing them.....just because you own a gun or work in a gun store does not necessarily mean you know how to safely handle a gun.    As to the folks who are not coming in to buy a holster ? Just leave it  holstered and covered and don't worry about it. Unless they are going to pat you down then don't worry about it. In fact if they never SEE it then whether it is loaded or not will not be an issue now will it? 

I think it's interesting how all this is comming out just before the 2014 election cycle.   Everyone with even a casual amount of insight about big city machine politics knows full well that whoever sits at the top manipulates the whole machine and does what he wants --- he rewards his friends and punishes his enemies.     I think the political insiders in both parties are getting ready to crucify Obama; that's why all these "scandals" are being leaked at once.   The democrats have to "re-brand" themselves to fool the next bunch of "children" into voting for them.  The republicans are finally going to have to tell the truth and "get even" for democrat excesses in order to bevn be thought of as a remotely viable political counter-balance to the idiocy currently taking place at the federal level.    I see all this as being good for the country.  Remember; when polititians are in-fighting they arent passing more foolish, repressive laws and robbing the citizenry with a pencil.  I say "...let em butcher each other on tv and everywhere else...".  When america's enemies are fightin each other, its always good for america.  Let the recriminations, reviews, hearings, revelations, and accusations begin!!   isolationist libertarian leroy

Certainly, and it's also part of the free market for consumers to call out individuals who are engaging in practices that are deemed inappropriate or unfair.  If enough consumers are able to collectively change the marketplace through their protests, that is the free market at work.  My hope is that these sellers will eventually end up eating a big loss on all of the ammo they've stockpiled as the market corrects itself.     In addition to this, people need to stop panic buying.  It's such a problem that I even have a buddy who doesn't own a .22 firearm any longer (he only shoots high-dollar big bore stuff), but is trying to gather up 5,000-10,000 rounds "just in case."  When I do find ammo, I get only what I know I'll reasonably need and leave some for others, but I know that most likely some jackwad will come in, buy all of it up, and sell it at the gun show for 2-3 times the original cost.  

Ahh well there's the rub. We like to talk about WE gunowners. In fact as we see from folks who join here just to sell or attempt to buy something, the concept of gunowners as a collective group is pretty much BS. I personally agree with you and I have bought limited ammo over the last few years and I have never paid a "premium" for what I've bought. We have seen the enemy and he is us.

  I have no authority to tell anyone what to do with their money.  However, when someone does something stupid that negatively impacts my ability to purchase ammo at a reasonable price then I damned well have the right to speak up and say that I don't like it and wish that such buyers would stop making dumbass decisions that negatively impact anyone who would like to purchase ammo at a more reasonable price.   Further, skirting purchase limit rules and cleaning out shelves of ammo at normal, retail price then reselling it is not simply the 'free market'.  It is profiteers creating a false market and, in a sense, interfering with the normal operation of the free market.

My 22's can sit and rust before I pay anything above retail on 22 ammo. If retail goes up, so be it.    You're probably preachin' to the choir for a lot of folks here.

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Yesterday the NTSB announced it's recommending a lowering of the limit for under the influence from .08 to .05.  I'm a member of a national DUI defense group, and everyone is talking about this on our listserve.  A lot of arguments similar to the ones gun owners make regarding tougher gun laws.    http://duinewsblog.org/2013/05/14/ntsb-wants-to-lower-dui-limit-to-0-05/     I read in one article that the alcoholic beverage industry has already fired back.  Of course they don't want this happening.  Now instead of having two or three drinks at a bar, a person might have just one.  On just a personal level I generally despise any sort of new laws, and like tougher gun laws I'm not sure that lowering the limit would make the streets any safer.  But it would certainly be more business for us defense lawyers. 

I normally take my cars to the dealer for any repairs they need. Yesterday on my way home, my check engine light came on and the car started running really "choppy". I was only a few miles from home so I continued on and stopped at my local auto parts store. They checked the code for me and it showed I was having a cylinder 4 misfire. I knew it would be okay to drive to the dealership if needed, and I knew that most likely it was the ignition coil gone bad. I have a warranty, but the deductible is $100 and the dealership is a hour away and takes time to get repairs and diagnostics. So I decided to try and repair it myself. For $117 I got a ignition coil, a new set of wipers, and a set of wipers for my wife's car. 45 minutes later, I had a repaired car with new wipers! There is nothing quite as satisfying as fixing your own car and not relying on someone else to do it for you!  

Yes, it is.   But with a CDL if you blow over .4 in your PERSONAL car, you can be charged and lose your license.

I was surprised to learn that a typical male of 180 pounds hits .08 at 4 drinks in an hour. I would have thought it was less drinks than that. If I were to have 4 drinks in one hour, I know I can't drive.

Stages are up. http://www.orsaidpa.com/stages/secret%20city%20challenge%202013.pdf

From an economics perspective this plan shows you don't consider the opportunity cost of your time. But you may get some intangible benefit by providing this charitable service.

Thanks for posting this.  I'm like you all about "new, tougher laws".  They dont work.  We dont need more moral "jhadists" or rule makers of any stripe, prohabitionist or otherwise generating sympathy for new rules and laws.  As my sainted old irish grandmother used to say: "...Advice is no good.  A wise man doesnt need it, and a fool wont heed it...".   She wuz right.   There are already too many recommendations, public service announcements, warnings and selectively enforced laws on the books now.   leroy

Unfortunately ~ Law breakers will break the law, whatever the "legal" limit may be.  They could care less on whether or not its .05 or .08.  I doubt this will help cut down on the amount of DUI's and/or DUI Deaths.   They should keep it where it is, or outlaw it entirely (Drinking & Driving that is).  Inching down doesn't solve anything, and at the end of the day, a drunk will still drive drunk regardless of any law.

Has become so good at lying about others that he's been offered a job in Obama's inner circle.

  Oh, absolutely.  Where we apparently disagree is on the idea of how much ammo scalpers are contributing to the scaremongering and perpetuating the abnormality.  You say the profiteers are providing a 'service'.  I say that they are part of the problem as, without them constantly cleaning out store shelves, things would return to 'normal' much more quickly and any of us would be able to walk into Walmart and purchase ammo.  Probably not immediately as there would still be those folks looking to spend their tax returns on ammo to bury in the back yard.  However, without scalpers perpetuating the problem I expect that normality would return much, much more quickly.   IOW, you think they are providing a service while I believe what they are doing is a disservice to the average ammo buyer.

  I disagree.  In fact, without the scalper cleaning out the shelves every time a new shipment of stock comes in, the scare would die down and there would be plenty of ammo for all of those, other customers.  Think about it, other than times when there have been ammo scares and scalpers cleaning out the shelves, have you ever walked into a Walmart and had trouble finding at least some kind of .22LR ammo on the shelf?  In fact, other than such times, have you ever seen the bulk packs of .22LR completely wiped out?   Sure, the initial scare might have a few folks buying up ammo and burying it in PVC pipes in their back yards but I think the market would have started to return to normal by now if that was all that was going on.  However, the scalpers perpetuate the ILLUSION of an ammo shortage and, therefore, prolong the scare.  Such scalpers, then, are NOT providing a 'service'.  Instead, they are a part of the problem, in the first place.

It is their shop and they can make whatever rules they want. They could even make a rule that anyone entering has to wear a pink tutu. You either comply or do not enter. As long as the rule doesn't violate the law there is nothing anyone can do about it.   Now personally I see it as more dangerous to have people unload their guns before entering. I NEVER remove my gun from the holster unless there is a reason to and unloading is not a reason.

King also voted for the first AWB in 1994.   He is hardcore RINO!  :yuck:

Just because new imports are drying up doesn't reduce the value of the c&r. The ability to purchase c&r eligible firearms nationally and also get discounts at online merchants like midway, brownells, aim, grafs, etc are significant.

OMG , I feel the money crawling out of my wallet. That was some nasty gun porn you just created ......I got to go take a cold shower ....

CZ Kadet is an adapter for their 9mm.  You can get  them made this way @ czusa custom shop.   My wife has one and it is very, very good.  Super accurate, on par with the ruger mark.   It is not ammo picky.  Suggestion: have them do the single action mod when you order it.     Highly recommended.   can't comment on any of the others you listed .

Benchmade makes an excellent product, as does Spyderco and Kershaw.   I wouldn't lock myself in to one brand/model. Do some shopping and see if you still come back to the Benchmade. If you do, then buy it.

I thought you could join ORSA without a membership. I may be wrong, but the story I heard is that the names of all prospective members are read at the club meetings to see if anybody objects to them being a member. Sponsored applicants get their name read once. Un-sponsored applicants have to have their names read at two or three separate meetings, which are held monthly. So, you can be unsponsored, but it takes longer.

I had my roof replaced about 2 years ago, and the contractor did a poor job picking up nails.  So I use one of those 40% off coupons from Hobby Lobby, and purchased a metal detector.  I figured the avoidance of flat tires on the mower and kids with nails in the feet was worth the price I paid.  I have taken it to the local school playground, and I am up some $0.64 in finds. 

Over on Cast Boolits there is a thread about "making" a custom seater, uses JB weld to mold to the top of the boolit.

I'm confused here. Changing the oil makes sense to you all but you don't feel it's necessary to change your transmission fluid. Why?  :squint:   It's such an inexpensive job I cannot think of a reason to skip it. 

  I don't recall seeing any post in this thread where anyone is calling for the government to step in and stop the stupidity.  Instead, some of us are pointing out that if people who are buying ammo at inflated prices from profiteers would simply and voluntarily stop doing so then the stupidity would likely come to an end all on its own and that would be better for all of us who want to buy and shoot ammo.

  Because in this case someone else's willingness to pay an inflated price to purchase ammo from profiteers directly impacts the rest of the buying public's ability to walk into a Walmart, LGS, etc. and purchase ammo at normal, retail prices.  It continues to give the profiteers incentive to go into Walmart, skirt the purchase limits by having their friends make straw purchases of ammo for them, clean out the Walmart shelves and not leave any ammo for people who just want to buy a box or two to shoot.  This creates a false market which negatively impacts all, potential ammo buyers - not just the one who decides to pay inflated prices to a profiteer.   If it were just a matter of one guy saying, "Hey, I happen to have more ammo than I need.  I will sell some of it to you at a premium," then that would be one thing.  Encouraging profiteers to continue buying up all the ammo they can get in order to resell it, resulting in a lack of ammo on the shelf for 'regular' shooters to buy, is a completely different matter.

I refuse to buy ammo from scalpers to be completely honest. I also won't refrain from giving scalpers a peice of my mind for what they are doing if I were to catch them peddling ammo at a premium.

  Well said ... :rofl:

hopefully the piranhas will start feeding on each and leave us alone for awhile

Today's Deep Throat is gonig to have to learn from the original Deep Throat, Mark Felt.  Low tech is what will deliver the day.

Ammo.

stoger very good value for the money