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I stole borrowed this from another gun forum.  No, I didn't snope it.    1.    We are  advised to NOT judge ALL Muslims by the actions of a few  lunatics, but we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics.  Funny how that  works.   2.    We constantly  hear about how Social Security is going to run out of money.  How come we never hear about welfare running out of  money?  What's interesting is the first group "worked  for" their money, but the second didn't.   Finally .. 3.     The Food Stamp Program, administered by the U.S. Department of Agriculture, is proud to be distributing this year the greatest amount of free Meals and Food Stamps ever --- to 47  million people, as of the most recent figures available in 2013. Meanwhile, the National Park Service, administered by the U.S. Department of the Interior, asks us "Please Do Not Feed the Animals."   The stated reason for this policy is because "The animals  will grow dependent on handouts and will not learn to take care of themselves."

The one thing that hasn't been suggested yet would be to ask your wife, "If something like this happens again and the person is acting suspicious, what are you going to do if I'm not here?"   It's her job to protect the kids too. When I have posed similar questions to some of my women friends, I just get a deer-in-the-headlights stare. The world is a dangerous place. Ignoring that fact is comforting right up until it bites you.   You need to get her to think about security and help her come up with the best options for various situations... handgun, pepper spray on the keychain, cell phone on her person when in the yard, neighbor's number on speed dial, whatever works for her. 

I'm always nervous.

[quote name="Erik88" post="1129479" timestamp="1395711794"]Exactly this. Putting up signs(do you really think that's going to do anything, think about no guns allowed signs) and cameras won't do squat. You wife needs to consider what she would have done had this person actually been a threat. [/quote] Great advice on preparing the wife and family members. Signs do make everyone aware of your property lines (including you) if the boundaries are not fenced or otherwise obvious, plus they send a message that you don't want casual visitors dropping by, and they make it a lot easier for you to prosecute if someone trespasses or causes other problems. Video cameras can be a great deterrent if they are visible, especially to the novice criminals or those looking for an easy score (the vast majority). They are also great for allowing you to keep an eye on things when you can't be there in person, and they can alert you proactively before anything bad has a chance to occur. And should a break in, violent crime, or other serious situation occur, you will have invaluable evidence to catch and incarcerate the bastards. You won't appreciate the value of these until you have them, and if something bad goes down without video then you'd give anything to go back in time to change your mind. In fact it wasn't long ago that I had someone break into my reloading shack and go through my supplies including various explosive compounds and other valuable items, but the security measures allowed me to catch and deal with that clown promptly. Here is a short video snippet from the surveillance setup: http://tinyurl.com/m3evx5

Glock owners don't get to complain about magazine prices...   It's probably one of the strongest selling points for the platform.  You can walk into just about any gun shop in America and walk out with a magazine.  $30 is cheap when you're looking at a factory magazine.  Clearly you can go cheaper when looking at KCI or other type equivalents.   I'm not saying I wouldn't like to see them cheaper, only that I'm thankful when I compare them to some magazines I've bought over the years.

Thanks folks, I needed a good laugh this morning.  :)     To the OP... I'd do exactly what you did, put up some signs and maybe get a game camera just to see what's really going on.  I'd see what's on the camera before installing razor wire, high voltage fencing, and landmines.  I'd also figure out a way to get the dog down there when she's alone with the kids. If your wife doesn't have her HCP already, this might provide a little motivation for her to get it. 

  AR pistol is about as accurate with just the buffer tube laid alongside cheek, though. Certainly plenty accurate enough for COM up to 100 yards or so. The buffer tube arrangement is actually a plus for stability and accuracy. Holding a shortie out on a sling to steady it absolutely sucks by comparison.   So AK pistol or AR piston models sans receiver extension don't have the same strengths in the stability and accuracy departments. But of course they are more compact and still deliver a hicap rifle cartridge punch at whatever range you can hit something with them.   So to add to and reiterate some of the points of the yea sayers:   - I can hit things quicker and repetitively a lot further away than with a conventional handgun. - The things that are hit with 5.56 get a bit more wallop as from .357 mag at same distance - I get 30 quick chances - Short firearm, easily stashed - Can actually carry around loaded on my person should circumstances require - Can have loaded in vehicle with one in chamber - No $200 tax stamp, and not on the only actual full fledged gun registry in the USA - You have a spare fully functional lower that can be swapped with other uppers - They not only look evil, but evilly evil :)   - OS

 I found this humorous and his reaction was top notch.   http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/03/24/texas-teenager-issues-cop-a-handwritten-parking-ticket-the-cops-reaction-is-just-as-great/

You guys are making me appreciate having good neighbors more and more.

More than I care to count. I buy when I find a bargain, and stop buying when I run out of storage room.

Passed 75-16-2!      WHOOOOO HOOOOOOO!

  Well, if they had written it in there, would have been overturned by the people eventually, just as Senators chosen by state legislatures was.   Why? Because long history of the process shows that people hate politicians, except their own, and they want their own guy to stay on.   - OS

[quote name="gregintenn" post="1129182" timestamp="1395671306"]Wow! It sounds like you either need to move, or else seek help from a competent mental health professional. I don't have enough information to say which is the case.[/quote]Like I said in my post, I have reasons for extra security, which I will not relate on a public forum, nor will I attempt to justify or debate with you. Your reply was neither helpful nor contributory to the topic of the thread. If you have nothing but snide remarks it's probably best to keep those to yourself.

  It's all relative.  Especially in kentucky.

Dude, I have to drive north to get to you, you're a Yankee.

HOAs are full of busybodies and petty tyrants. If folks want to live under that then they shouldn't be surprised when they get what they asked for.

  Why is any gun desirable?  If we only own what is *useful*, I would have to sell 3/4 of mine.   My desert eagle 44 is less useful than my AR pistol, for that matter:  Its almost as big but holds a fraction the # of shots and is ammo picky (likes it hot and some rounds wont fit in the mag, too long).  My .22 escort is a total piece of junk, and my wife's  .25 is also nearly useless, to name a few right off the top of my head.  My double barreled shotgun is virtually worthless as well, slow to load, low cap, difficult to cock both hammers quickly, but I LOVE it.    My AR pistol gives me a high capacity, long range pistol that can be carried on a handgun permit legally.   It is also fun to shoot.   But it serves no practical purpose unless I need it as a weapon (in which case, heaven help me).  Just because it is legal to carry does not make it practical, its too big to conceal and the range makes it dangerous in an urban setting.  Its one of those things you have and hope you never NEED.

  The Classic Cast is cast iron. The Challenger is aluminum. NOT the place to pinch your pennies

I've got 40 years experience as an electrician. I would NEVER buy a house with aluminum wire. Even in the service entrance cables. It's not even legal anymore. Your insurance company will really be unhappy.

There are so many variables involved with trespassing scenarios that you really can't judge or react to them all in the same manner. Size of the land, number and type of adjacent lots, presence of fences or other borders, time of day, nature of the offender(s), location of roads, trails, creeks, etc. etc. But in general my rule is that if it is uncommon, out of the ordinary, or otherwise makes you uncomfortable then it is a problem to be addressed promptly, and is best to err on the side of safety and caution than to end up becoming a statistic, especially when you have family members or valuable items to protect. I do all of the following for my own land, which may seem excessive to some of you but I will only say that I have good reason to do so, and there's really no down side to being extra cautious. Perhaps some of you may find a few ideas useful or can share others which I will find useful. Post the borders of your land with weatherproof signage mounted about 10' high on mature trees to discourage removal. Walmart sells signs on rolled yellow plastic sheets for $0.44 each. Install fences, even something as simple as a single strand of barbed wire if you can't afford something better, or at least sink stakes in the ground with colored flags attached to indicate your property lines. Install wireless weatherproof motion detectors at all possible points of entry or egress to your land, or at least on every approach to buildings, with at least one alarm receiver in your central location. I find it best to camouflage these, tune to avoid animals or false alarms, and test / replace batteries at least twice a year. Install wired color security cameras with infrared night vision and remote viewing via your cell phones / computers. Best to use the models which have built-in as well as off-site recording, and alarm notification features as well. Cover all buildings and common entry / exit points such as driveways, windows, and doors. If you are not trained to spot tracks or other signs of intrusion, place small items of modest value and high visibility (such as small painted ammo cans, cheap plastic tool boxes with a few cheap tools, etc.) at random places on your property, especially wooded or secluded spots. If they are moved or missing then you know it wasn't Bambi and you can install game cameras after setting out additional bait. Keep a log of any damage or removed items, tracks or signs of intrusion, damaged fence or flags, etc. including archived video from the cameras. Report any trespassers or thefts to the local police and your neighbors, even if seemingly negligible. Let your neighbors know that you have posted your land and taken various security measures without going into detail. Do not share the details of your security systems and methods with anyone, not even friends or secondary family unless they have a specific need to know. There are many other components and methods related to home and personal security so I won't go into all those here. I just listed some common things related to property line security and trespassing. If anyone wants specific advice or more details just feel free to PM me directly.

Yep, especially when you live next to Democrats :)

  Zounds! Prithee tell how "most all" of my 20K+ posts have so sorely nettled thee?   - OS

You could get one of these cameras... :taunt:

  Strange man walking on private property with 2 young kids.  Seems reasonable to be concerned about.

Could you post a few pictures? It'll mostly depend on the condition of the insulation.   Aluminum wire in-and-of-itself is fine, and is still used today for larger size wiring because of its lower cost. There are basically three tradeoffs: Aluminum isn't quite as good of a conductor as copper, so you have to use a larger size wire for a given amount of current. Also, the surface will oxidize some over time, which will create an area of higher resistance (and thus higher temperature, possibly leading to a fire if it gets hot enough) where there is a connection to something else (wire nut, clamp, outlet, etc.). This is usually prevented by covering a freshly-stripped piece of wire with an anti-oxidizing paste. Lastly, all of the connectors have to be rated for use with aluminum because of the dissimilar metals. Most modern connectors & wire nuts are, and will be stamped as "AL/CU" somewhere on them.   What are you wanting to do?

Get a book, and reloading is not madness. Casting is a whole nother story, it is where the madness is.

I just flagged an ad on Armslist for overpriced .22 ammo and got the "the community has spoken, this ad has been rejected" message. Choke on it, reseller scum.

Got my P238 Scorpion a baby brother to play with at the range. Price was too good to pass up. GSG/Sig 1911-22

  I don't know what a "slop" is, but I believe the best way to have good neighbors is to make an effort to be one.

Comments I heard were that the rental fees were very high.

If the Governor signs this, Autos for me from now on! While I like flippers, I will be getting several Pro tech knives and use and carry them from now on!

Basically it will no longer be illegal to own and carry pretty much any kind of knife you want. Penalties for using a knife in a crime will be increased. Because of the pre-emption law passed last year, cities can't further restrict knife laws. I might go buy a Protech Large Don to celebrate. A switchblade with a 4.5" blade.

Could be worse, but I agree we're spoiled by Pmags.  Glock magazines in this market are some of the more reasonably priced ones out there.  Bottom line is that's what people will pay.  You might be able to do a little better than $30 for new ones.  I just ordered some police trade-in 17s for about $18 shipped.

rick was under the bed when one of them was knocked to the floor and knocked out but before he was he saw rick

Send a PM to Major Kong. He's a member here. I know another as well and will inquire if he would mind talking to ya.

If he's to be worried about, he'll be back. Hopefully we're all making much more out of this than is needed though.

  "They" absolutely understand this.

    Rick has went full bore dumbass as of late.  When is he not broken and bleeding?  

Has any elections made things better? Was Bush 1, Clinton, Bush 2, and Obama an improvement just because of term limits? It comes back to taking back to the education system and the youth from this left-wing social engineering. If you want a government, judicial, media, education system, etc., to represent your idea of what America should be, you have to start from the bottom. You start with the education system, teach kids on the truth, the constitution as originally intended by our founders, etc., and get the Socialist/Communist party lines out of the textbooks, etc., and you will start to see the change you're looking for. If we let the education system and everything else continue on this path, soon all you'll be to the kids is old racist right wing wanna let everyone die and no care for the old, poor and disabled, and you will be out-voted by that up and coming new generation graduating out in the world every year. They're rearing a left-wing army that thinks like them, votes like them, agrees with them and wants what the lefties want. Every time I see a pro-gun aka pro-2a rally, conservative rally, tea party, or any other conservative groups (except some of the libertarian groups), it's all old white folks and hardly any young folks (any age up to about 30). Only time I seen a teen or 20-something at rallies in D.C., they were the Christian church kids with their kinfolk (and very few of them). The rest avoid it like the plague.

 I don't know what area of town Peace is in but the fact that he is in the city limits makes mine and his situation different. Having a creek or river running through or along your property will almost certainly net a man more than his share of folks just millin' around whether they are fishing, "hiking" or they grew up wading and or walking that creek fishing. We've had a handful of folks show up way atop the hills my folks own and a few of them in the dead of night. One young man and his dad use to drive up to the top of one of the hills just for the view or at night to see the stars and city lights so it seemed to him a good place to go park with his lady friend. Problem was that since my folks bought the place the driveway doesn't go to the same hill it used to and he damn near drove him and his girl off a cliff but luckily for him the frame bottomed out on the edge of the rock and left the truck teetering back and forth.He was also lucky my dad happened to see the lights headed up that hilland was able to use our fork lift to reach out there and pick the truck up and sit ot back on flat earth (I'd say his plans for him and the little lady didn't pan out after that.  Well look at me off in the weeds chasing rabbits.. anyhow, if it were someone just easing along enjoying the creek I wouldn't get wound to tight over it personally but depending on where a man lives at he may have more cause for alarm than we ever have Like someone else mentioned, the world has changed a lot over the last couple decades and you just don't know anymore I guess, heck we didn't even have a key to the doors of our house until I was driving and even then I don't thin the door was locked unless we were all gonna be gone for an extended period... Wouldn't dream of doing that now days.

[quote name="gregintenn" post="1129046" timestamp="1395627383"]I have seen an explosion of these things lately. I see no legitimate use for them. I'm not promoting the banning of them or anything like that. I expect this thread will ruffle a few feathers, but I'm hoping someone can enlighten me as to why they are desirable.[/quote] Does your carry weapon have near rifle range with accuracy? Just asking Besides anything you call "legitimate", they're a ton of fun. I have a lot of weapons that have the sole purpose of being fun. If you don't, you ought to live a little

I flag all the overpriced ammo I see too.... just doing my part.   :wave:

It ain't over. We're just playing opossum...

No offense but the Civil War is over. And since then the American people have fought many other war's as one Nation. WWI, WWII, Korea, Vietnam...the list goes on.  The pity is that so many American's had to die for their political beliefs at home way back then. However, we are united as a Nation and will continue to do so to protect our shores.    Our biggest challenge is not the Russians but the modern American politician who is representing themselves and not the people of the USA.

  Dib dib dib  that's all foks!

Not everyone has a IQ sufficient enough for logic and reasoning. This cat is one of them.   And BTW: WTH does being an artillery officer have to do with this? The artillery officers that I had probably only shot the gun/howitzer once in their entire time in my unit. How does that qualify you to speak about gun safety?

I have some fantastic friends in the knife world. And one in particular likes to send me things to play with. He sent me these two recently and I've enjoyed carrying them both. First up is a Ramon Chaves Redencion. This is hands down the biggest, beefiest folder I have ever laid fingers on. It is overbuilt to the extreme. The pictures below show some of the cool features of this knife. The last picture is of the lock bar cut going around the pivot. Really neat. The second knife was a Michael Burch (Burchtree Bladeworks) Large Swoop. This knife had the smoothest and best action I've ever felt on a knife. I was blown away by this one. Truly incredible work. Michael is known for his work with 1095 and the hamons he produces. This one has a great hamon. And here a few shots of the two together. The Redencion bit me a few days ago. Still not sure how this one happened but thats a lot of blade. And last up an instagram video of the Burch in action. http://instagram.com/p/k2yZ7cQSbH/

I have contacted Chaves about that Redencion , a must have , hope I can afford it. I noticed his clip on his web site is plain on the edges where your is arrowhead like cut , drooling here. :drool: Oh well , just saw where a used one went for $925.00 , guess I better find something else ……..

To Officials of the State of Connecticut: Either Enforce or Repeal 2013 Anti-gun Laws. Rocky Hill CT, March 3, 2014: A recent media tidal wave based on false reports and bad journalism has proven a few things about the 2013 Gun Ban: people from Connecticut and around the nation are tired of being threatened; are ready to make a stand; and the State of Connecticut does not have the stomach to enforce the edicts and laws with which they threaten gun owners.   For years, Undersecretary Michael Lawlor, the upper levels of the State Police, and Governor Dannel Malloy have sought to disarm those whom they fear. The laws they passed show that they fear constitutionally and lawfully armed citizens. Despite thousands of gun owners showing up at each legislative session expecting to be heard by their ‘representatives’, government officials seized upon public panic related to the Newtown Massacre, as a means to exert legislative and executive fiats intent upon disarming gun owners who have harmed no one. The Connecticut Executive and Legislative branches showed their cowardice when they installed metal detectors and armed guards at the entrances to the Legislative Office Building (LOB) only for firearms-related hearings.   Gun hating officials now have their laws on the books in Connecticut. They dreamed up those laws, in their tyrannical dystopias, but it was NOT the majority of the public that supported such laws. Despite all the severe legal language that the government passed, there is still no open discussion of enforcing those tyrannical laws, as they stand. Throughout the Legislature and the Department of Emergency Services and Public Protection (DESPP), there is only talk of "amnesty" and possibly boiling the frog at a slower rate.   It comes as no surprise that the talks of relaxing enforcement expectations go along with legislators trying to get past their re-election deadlines. If the anti-gun laws they passed are so good for everyone in this state, then why are elected officials requesting increased security, both at the LOB and at their private homes? The anti-gun legislators and officials are scared to implement their tyranny because they know that they did not have any sort of ‘consent of the governed’. Those officials violated their oaths of office, as the Executive and Legislative branches of our Connecticut government overstepped their moral and constitutional responsibilities by passing those laws: they acted and voted contrary to our Rights and against our Constitution.   Now, State officials look down the barrel of the laws that they created, and it is very probably that they now tremble as they rethink the extremity of their folly. Connecticut Carry calls on every State official, every Senator, and every Representative, to make the singular decision: Either enforce the laws as they are written and let us fight it out in court, or else repeal the 2013 Gun Ban in its entirety. As many media sources have pointed out, there is very little compliance with the new edicts, and there is absolutely no way for the State to know who is obeying the law or not. State officials have made their bluff, and Undersecretary Lawlor has made his position clear, that the State will enforce the laws. We say: Bring it on. The officials of the State of Connecticut have threatened its citizens by fiat. They have roared on paper, but they have violated Principle. Now it's time for the State to man-up: either enforce its edicts or else stand-down and return to the former laws that did not so violently threaten the citizens of this state.   There is nothing that will so completely destroy faith in those edicts faster than the State-provoked chaos and violence that will be required to enforce the 2013 anti-gun laws. Connecticut residents should not have to live in perpetual fear of "the jack boot" coming down on them. Unenforced, frequently repeated threats fall on deaf ears. By passing laws that they cannot or choose not to enforce, State officials tell the public that this State is ignorant, immoral, blind, and impotent in its legal and decision making processes. The passage of such foolishly conceived, insufferable laws is an affront to every law-abiding citizen. Every official who supports such legal foolishness mocks our State and the Constitution they swore to uphold.   If the state does not have the stomach to enforce these laws, then the legislature has until May 7th, 2014 to completely repeal these immoral edicts and let the residents of Connecticut return to their rightfully owned property and former exercise of constitutional rights and practices without any threat of State violence.   “From Governor Malloy, to Undersecretary Lawlor to DESPP, Commissioner Schriro, and Lieutenant Cooke of the firearms unit, and including Lt. Paul Vance, the state needs to ####, or get off the pot. The fact is, the state does not have the balls to enforce these laws. The laws would not survive the public outcry and resistance that would occur.” - Connecticut Carry Director Ed Peruta   If officials of the State of Connecticut opt to get ‘froggy’ (jumping on citizens) and start to enforce the new laws (as officials have claimed a desire to do), Connecticut Carry stands ready to do whatever it takes and whatever it can do to represent and defend anyone impacted by the State’s violence.   “As citizens of Connecticut, we have a right to bear arms. With that right comes responsibility. The responsibility to stand in defense of ourselves and our fellow citizens is paramount.” – Connecticut Carry President Rich Burgess