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I'd say he's pandering to voters. He's still a D in an R's clothes Sent from my iPad using Voodoo magic

Personally I think it should be the same as when people die during the commission of a crime and that is the person who initiated the criminal act should be charged with any injuries or deaths, including fellow criminals. After all, but for the criminal's actions no one would have gotten hurt. A innocent person trying to defend his life should not have to worry about the legal ramifications and should only be worried about coming out the other end of the alercation.

You've got to die of something.   My grandmother was always trying to get my grandfather to watch what he ate.  He had heart problems, so it was certainly warranted.  But, he drew the line at butter.  Whenever my grandmother gave him margarine, he wouldn't touch it.  When pressed, he'd reply that, "I trust cows more than I trust chemists."    He was ahead of his time, I guess.

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How do background checks of any kind keep felons and the mentally ill from getting firearms?

hipower, how? lowpower...  :)

If these dirtbags came in my business I would throw them out at gunpoint. These people are rabble, they are not NRA members or members of any community that I would choose to associate with. This is "Open Carry Texas" at a Target store in Texas. Looking at the obama tee shirt and package of oreos he is holding up to make a political statement, this guy and his cohorts are from bloomberg, brady or organizing for america. Maybe ACORN. Target bases it's business on soccer moms. Soccer moms do not know or care what your gun rights are and are frightened when scum like this in the photo parade around a store they are shopping in. Soccer moms WILL vote for any politician who promises to "protect" them from evil looking men carrying evil looking rifles. To preserve our gun rights, do not provoke the soccer moms or retailers in their stores. Carry discretely and politely. Do not be one of the reasons that our rights are being stripped away from us. Anybody remember a tool named embody or emboy or something like that going around Nashville a couple of years ago provoking park rangers and police by openly carrying? He and Open Carry Texas are more dangerous to your rights than the brady idiots. A lot of critical thinking and situational awareness are in order.

    I disagree with him too. This is the only de facto nod to constitutional carry since 1870 when it became illegal in the first place.   Amazing to me that such a historic enactment has flown almost totally under the radar.   - OS

Yeah, I gotta respectfully disagree with Robert on this one.  This law change is a pretty big deal.... IMHO the biggest positive change since HCP reform back in '94.   Full-on constitutional carry and TICS exemption for permit holders are really just about all we have left to win on the state level. 

So these are basically sausage balls cooked muffin style?  Try some Tennessee Pride hot sausage. 

Believes the French actually have a military base.

As we celebrate our nation's independence this week, remember how it was tested and nearly lost at the Battle of Gettysburg, July 1-3 1863.  Truly a watershed moment in American history.  I visited the battlefield many many years ago with my old man, and have read a number of books on it (my favorite being The Killer Angels, which is more historical fiction).  It is of course amazing to be there and walk the ground, and I would love to go back.  It featured some the most horrendous, close quarters, brutal combat you'll ever read about, particularly on day 2 in places like the Wheatfield, the Peach Orchard, and Devil's Den.   Like all significant battles, so much of it turned on random events and dumb luck.  So many ifs.  If the South had pressed the advantage on day 1, when they had the North on the run...if Col. Chamberlain doesn't hold his position at Little Round Top on day 2 (probably THE turning point of the war)...if Lee tried anything but a reckless, suicidal frontal assault on day 3...would've been a different outcome.   The Union was ready to sue for peace that summer, and England was just looking for a reason to join in on the side of the Confederacy.  They win Gettysburg and that probably would have been it.  Who knows, after helping the South mop up, England might have said we want back what used to be ours.  We might all be speaking today with British accents, and goodbye Constitution!   So take a moment to remember.        

LMAO!!! I TOLD YOU! They usually are gone in 30 minutes at my house :lol:

I would not have a problem with background checks but for the fact that they want the serial number and description of the firearms. This is not checking out purchasers records. This is forming the ground work for a gun registry one day.

  But what about knives, axes, cars, gas and sharp poles? Once you open the door saying this is ok then they will move on the next and soon you will be asking the gooberment for permission to take your poop.... 

Don't make the mistake of thinking this bill actually accomplishes anything wonderful...like the so-called "guns in trunks" bill of a couple of years ago; it's nothing more than a bone thrown to the "pro-gun" crowd to keep them (us) quiet since the Republican triumvirate doesn't have the guts to pass anything truly meaningful.

Persoanlly I have zero problem with what they have said. Just like most businesses Target does not want to get into the 2nd amendment fight and just want to make money. If they chose to ban firearms or if they chose to openly allow firearms that would cost them customers. By being vague they have appeased both sides and probably increased their customer base by doing so.   I will shop there because they do allow me to carry my handgun. I have no intentions of carrying my guns openly so their decision does not affect me .

How about we don't cooperate with these gun grabbing assholes in ANY WAY? They don't want background checks on private sales. They want gun ownership by private citizens to be totally eliminated. Their gun control schemes don't work, even in their anti-gun utopias. Piss on 'em.

I think one important question was missing?   "If you answered 'yes' to all or the majority of the previous questions, is it because you're a bald faced liar and will kiss anyone's ass simply to get their vote?"   If they answered 'no,' then you know the answer is 'yes.' 

It's hilarious how the over-zealous nutjobs on OUR side are causing us more trouble lately than the over-zeolous nutjobs on THEIR side. WTF good can come of toting rifles into a big box retail store to cause a scene...just because you can?

  Me too, but on the other hand I ceased being surprised about government ineptitude at any level a long time ago.   - OS

Here's the thing, in reality, they did nothing at all. They did the exact same thing as Starbucks and Chipotle. They released a statement asking customers to leave their guns at home. The focus of which is directed at asshats like Open Carry Texas and others walking around with rifles. What is important to take note of is what they didn't do.(just like Starbucks and Chipotle) That is post their locations against carry. Moms Demand Action From Bloomberg gets to crow about a victory while normal folks will continue to go about their business and carry into Target like we always have before. Target gets to go about their business of selling stuff to folks who don't like going to Walmart instead of being used as a pawn by both sides of a debate they couldn't give a shit about. If we 2A folks really want to do ourselves a favor we would stop dragging innocent 3rd parties into it. This isn't a zero sum, with us or against us fight. Let MDAFB make asses of themselves instead of helping them accomplish their goals by being egotistical dickwads. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

I noticed the term "open carry" when I read it earlier as well.  I think they are basically saying, don't come in and be a douchebag even if "open carry" is legal in your state.  I am curious if there is anything specific about concealed carry. 

I've always looked at this way. If your hunting from a tree stand I say compound bow but personally if I'm hunting in a ground blind I would use a crossbow. It's all personal preference though. Shoot what's comfortable.

It's made from 1084 carbon steel 5/32" thick. Total length is just over 11 1/2" with a blade length of about 5 1/2". It's shape makes it a Wharncliffe and has sculpted G10 blue scales with zombie green liners. The scales are fastened with epoxy and corby rivets. The design you see in the blade is deep etched into the steel the the entire blade was etched save the edge. It has the "caveman look" on the spine and at the butt of the knife. There is large but gentle jimping added as well. I had a blast making this knife...lots of time and details went into this thing. It's very sharp and the point on it will stick you. Ask me how I know.

And unlike John Harris, some of us think it's perfectly fine for an employer to be able to fire you for violate the conditions they set on your employment.  Which is why I don't support the TFA any longer.  

Hey, that's pretty generous. I'll take it. At least I can carry during that time while I wait for the TN permit. Plus, with the new vehicle carry law I'm covered in the vehicle regardless.    My TN HCP expired in January and it's been invalid for 3 years. I kept it anyways. 

I've mentioned the XD tactical that I have and forgot to say the bad part of it. The only thing I find imperfect is when you have 13 rounds in it and put the +1 on the pipe. There is a round in the mag that becomes loose and rattles a bit. No failures of any kind in this baby, just this little rattle. If the mag is out it doesn't rattle, only when you seat it. Doubt I'll ever be sneaking up on someone and be found out due to my rogue round but I wanted to pass along. 14 rounds of .45 is beyond bad a•• no matter how you slice it.

  Fixed it for ya! :pleased:

Had all of the above for dessert last night! :dirty:

Yea but if you look close it's Hope for Bacon. Hmmmm I wonder if we have any maters at the house.   Joe W

Has fantasies about Bloomberg involving Jell-o, peanut butter and spider monkeys.

Thinks "Napoleon Complex" refers to a secret French military base.

Although you are under no requirement in Tennessee to advise the LEO, many appreciate the gesture and will thank you for it. A few years back I was on my way home from work on the 4th of July and was doing 68 in a 50. Ooops! Got pulled over in a small town notorious for writing a ticket for even a couple of mph over the limit. I kept my hands where the officer could see them and gave him my permit with my DL and POI. He gave me a warning because he said he appreciated my being nice and helpful. Saved me a pile of cash. 

Way too long to read, can you post the truncated version?

I like spicy things, so I added some crushed red pepper flakes to the recipe.

I thought I'd bring this thread back to life with a little report...   I built a new semi-raised bed garden this spring, it's about 2 ft wide x 30 ft long. I wanted more garden space and after a very poor yield last year, I got the impression that our other garden space needed a break. Due to nearly non stop spring rains keeping the area too wet to till, I got a late start getting things planted. I was finally able to use a lot of the compost from my compost barrel (see the first page of this thread). The compost came out black as diesel oil and seems to have helped noticeably.   :up:    We planted 4-5 varieties of tomatoes and it looks like we'll have a great harvest, they're only just now getting ripe. The cherry tomatoes have come in first and I've got more of them than I know what to do with. I'm expecting plenty to freeze this year. :yum:   Next is okra and it's growing fine but it's got a couple more weeks yet before we'll get any.   We planted broccoli much later than recommended, but we had the seeds so we planted them anyway. While they've come up and grown fine, it seems all they really did was provide food for the caterpillers. The leaves look like swiss cheese and out of 6-8 plants we got one solitary head of broccoli smaller than a coke can. I pulled them up yesterday and tossed them in the compost. I may try one more time, but so far I'm 0 for 3 with broccoli.  :shrug:   We planted some lettuce also much later than recommended, but it's done great. We got more lettuce than we knew what to do with and it continued to produce through the heat up until a week or two ago. Actually it's still there and growing but the lettuce is bitter now. Guess I'll pull it up too.   The snap peas didn't do anything. The plants started growing fine, then turned brown and died after about a month. I don't know what happened, they did fine last year.  :shrug:   The green beans didn't do well either, though I think that's our fault. I think we got pole beans instead of bush beans and since we didn't put up anything for them to climb they got completely overrun by the zuchinni right next to them. I got one handful of beans the other day after digging them out from under the zuchini.   And speaking of zuchini.... while the plants have grown about 3x bigger than we expected, we've only gotten a handful of zuchini. Hopefully they'll continue to produce for a while yet.   The cucumbers have produced more than we can eat but the plants have turned brown over the last week or so. I expected the plants to last longer than this. That's it for the new garden bed.   In the old garden bed we planted some pumpkin seeds saved from last year's Halloween pumpkins at my 6 yr old's request. Surprisingly (to me anyway) they've grown into a rather large pumpkin plant. No baby pumpkins yet so we'll see what happens. We also planted a green bell pepper and chili pepper there because we ran out of room in the new bed. They're doing fine and I'm impatiently waiting for some home-made salsa.  :yum:    How's everyone else's garden doing this year... ?

Lots of good info n here for ones who like to read this genre...but hard to keep track of..wonder if it would be possible to have a sticky (I think thats what it's called) on this thread with an updateable master list?  Then one could see all the books without having to read every thread.  Once one decides to check into a particular book, you could then do a search for the title and rad reviews...good idea, or not?

  Would have been good enough that you would already seen it in one of my Facebook posts :)

This is nothing more than a "request", and they will not be posting gun buster signs. Nothing to see here.

So you can't carry an AK47 into a target anymore? Hopefully broadswords and chainsaws are still okay. Seriously, why is this an issue? You can still carry concealed. They just don't want folks bringing an arsenal into their establishment and scaring off customers. If there was a rash of dudes open carrying dildos into the kids' section of Target I'm sure they'd come up with a policy for that too. This has absolutely nothing to do with the second amendment. Target will still have my business. Just shopped there yesterday, as a matter of fact. Had a bullet launcher on me the whole time. Hooray for discretion! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I've bought a lot of stuff from Cabella's (online) and have always been more than satisfied with both the quality and the price.  Unfortunately, if this new store is in Tennessee than I guess they will start charging me TN sales tax! ;(

  Hmmm. I see what you mean, then. Apologies if the comment seemed insulting or anything.   "Tennessee's Handgun Carry Permit does not meet the requirements of the federal Brady Bill because it lacks a requirement for an annual re-check of the permit holder's criminal history and it does not require a check through the National Instant Check System (NICS).  Therefore, purchasers holding a valid Tennessee Handgun Carry Permit still have to have a TICS/NICS check performed when purchasing a firearm."    I can find no requirement for the yearly check. Also, to think your HCP app is not vetted through NICS seems absurd. It's sent to FBI for criminal background check, which runs NICS. So what would FBI use if not their own system?   Also, our state legislators seem to think that we could enact it if we chose. Not that they're exactly the intelligentsia, but I do believe someone would have checked on that before writing the bill, which included no changes needed in the HCP process.   Frankly, I think that entire paragraph is bogus until proven differently. And the reason we can't use HCP for NICS is because we haven't enacted it, as the federal statute requires. Not to mention the fact that the state is not willing to let go of the 10 clams per pop.   As always, I'm certainly willing to be wrong -- but I'd like to see some documentation regarding this beyond their statement.   - OS

Target says, "Look you retards! From now on, if you show up with an AR-15, we will throw your ass out". Carry on.

I informed a couple of LE friends of mine about it in the last couple of weeks. Neither one had seen any information at all come through the official departmental channels. That was for MPD and SCSO. I found that more than a little bit unsettling to be honest.

Target, Chipotle, Chili's, Starbucks - all have "respectfully" requested that patrons not bring firearms inside. No bans; no posting signs, nothing. So, really, nothing has changed. My theory is that they did what they did to get the Moms Who Don't Get Any Action off their backs, and it worked like a charm. Let them think they've won. They're more likely to underestimate us.

  Ain't this the truth? Most of the stuff you get pulled over for is pretty stupid anyway, law or not. Might as well kiss a little behind for five minutes to save a couple hundred bucks. 

If i had to guess, i'd say Arbys.... roast beef sale.

Nobody on he would complain if they were sending coupons for ammo.... This type of market research can drastically improve your shopping experience. And do it without invading your privacy. What's the difference if they are tracking your wifi signal or watching you on camera? And btw the scanner systems in walmart and other retailers could give a crap less about your phone. They barely work with the .:/?$& scanner! Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

[quote name="bird333" post="1157016" timestamp="1402346651"]What happens when someone is legitimately afraid when they see one of these people come in a store and pulls their handgun and shoots them?[/quote] We get one less idiot stealing oxygen. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk