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  Noooo... he'll get roped in by some dependapotamus and then he'll end up a slave to her and Tricare.   I've never in my life suggested this to another man, but he might want to consider going gay even if long enough to get away from her.   Currently he can't be declared a common-law spouse if they're same sex, and at worse he ends up with a tastefully decorated house and impeccable wardrobe.  The downside is having to have someone else PIIHB, but let's face it... metaphorically speaking he's already taking it there anyway.   :D

FORGET COUNSELLING!!! Counseling will not help one bit. All the cards are in your deck and now is the time to kick her out before she ends up pregnant.   This is what is probably going to happen. You guys go to counseling, she is going to apologize, you guys are going to make up, have sex, then in your August post you post about how you cannot kick your pregnant fiancé out of the house. Then shortly after finding out she is pregnant she is going file for a protective order have YOU kicked out of your grandparent's house so she can move a boyfriend in. After that she will file for child support, get it, then you spend the next 18 years battling to see your child while she makes you pay, both financially and criminally because every time you go to see your child she will call the cops and have you arrested. From what you have said she is immature and is looking to be a victim, don't give her the chance to ruin your life.   You will never be able to own a firearm again in your life.   And one thing to assume is, no matter how well you may know here, she is an awful person.

Well, let me put on my grandpa hat here a moment and just tell you what I'd tell my own grandson if he came to me with this situation... From everything you've said here I know that there is no damn way either of you is remotely ready for marriage, to each other or anyone else.  Further, that you would could come onto a public forum, ask a question like this and explain the details and after all the (surprisingly :) ) good advice you've received think that "counseling" is in any way a reasonable response to what has happened I find pretty incredible and sad.   I'm not trying to be mean here but damn...you asked for advice and got some really good advice; do yourself a favor and take the advice to heart. I wish you well...I really do.

I'll stick with my last post.   Neither one is going anywhere anytime soon.   Counseling with a girlfriend?  That made me laugh.     Dolomite's post is whats gonna happen

Ok, im gonna be "that guy" for a moment. Let's recap. His profile says 27 years old. Engagement, no job, grandma's house. It could be that SHE is the one looking to eject. No offense OP, and I don't know your life, but this has all the signs of a fail in the making.

Harsh but good advice to follow:     BOTH of you should turn off the video games, seek gainful employment, stop mooching off your grandparents, and go your seperate ways!   It's time to grow up and be adults. I've read nothing to provide any evidence that either of you have done this to this point.

What a no class monkey dick.

I just put this on my list of places to visit. :usa:   http://mortenson.wistia.com/medias/tejnwpitig

What if the new boyfriend drives down here and hits it off with the current boyfriend? What state would they have to go to in order to be married/ civil unioned, and would that be strong enough grounds to evict the cheating girlfriend?: lol: I think this thread officially has everything now. :lol:

Page 7 and not one dissenting opinion. That has to be a record, not just for TGO, but for the entire Internet. To paraphrase Sir Winston: Never in the field of Internet forum history, has so little been agreed on by so many.

Lose the fiance.

Is being spent making blades!! Sent barefoot from the hills of Tennessee

I can see this thread topping 1000 posts by the weekend! :up:

I'm sitting here in total disbelief that the OP is even discussing such a personal matter on a public forum. Well, y'all sure gave him plenty of advice to follow. Now it's all up to him!   Dave

He'll only need one. Shutdown the WiFi.

  We're talkin' XXXL Obama T shirt

+1 to all posts. Take today and tomorrow to hide anything of yours of value then tell her she needs to have her stuff out of your grandmama's house by sunset Sunday. Dolomite is spot on. And how I figure you don't need counseling homey, she does. Tell her to get some after she's gone. After that sell the game console on craigslist or throw it in the trash or whatever then go volunteer somewhere and make some connections for employment. Hell drive around and find a paving crew and tell the foreman you'll shovel mix all day for no pay and that by the end of the day he'll want to hire you. Then bust your ass. After your first check dump the car with the payment and find the cheapest pos you can and save for 6 mo and buy a better pos. All while improving your grandparents home and life in any way you can when you aren't working. If there's any work that needs to be done on their place you need to do it for them. Take a free Home Depot class or something if you don't know how to fix stuff. And don't even worry bout dhitp personally I'd be kinda leery bout dh at all because she may have that poison stuff that may make you decide she needs to stay around. But this thread has to be a troll...

All joking aside...   Maybe you should check out the military as an option, not only will it get you out of the situation, you'll meet plenty of girls that will be the new "love of your life" and the military will help you get your life on track.   Never too late to get your sh!t together and make a better life for yourself!

And every 'good' thread needs a meme to sum up someone else's statement

  We need start a TGO quotes file, and this should be entry #1.

I'll go out on a limb and predict the OP is not going anywhere.  Sorry dude.  You have been played   I don't know how anyone needs a online forum to tell them the obvious answer.

  I think the people you're maligning are, to a large degree, doing about the only thing they can with the resources at their disposal.  As has been pointed out, we have a society of tyrants occupying the government from top to bottom at both the Federal and State levels and that doesn't leave much for the voting public to work with.  It's rare to find elected representatives who are truly on the side of the Constitution and the public, and they seem to be outnumbered and outgunned by the opposition.   Visiting representatives in person or protesting outside their offices takes free time, and those of us on this side of the argument generally have very little of that to spare.  Case in point, the Occupy Wallstreet types weren't commuting to productive jobs during the day and returning to their hippie communes in public parks at night.  They were largely unemployed students and stay-at-home types (or homeless) and had nothing BUT free time on their hands.  Even the most industrious spider can be overwhelmed by an army of ants.   Besides, what's the return on investment for "us" to meet with elected officials who don't have a care in hell about the Constitution?  Or who are so badly on the take via backroom deals that they would sell their own mothers up river if it meant another four-years in public office to grow their fiefdoms?  I'm not going to rush to take time off from my job to meet with some bought and paid for bureaucrat who will smile, thank me for coming to see them, nod in feigned agreement as I voice my concerns, and then do precisely the opposite of what I've requested when it comes time for them to vote for my rights as an American citizen.   The problem is corruption and it's getting harder and harder to put honest people in office and keep them honest, and almost impossible to get rid of the traitors already in office.  The problem isn't disinterest on the part of gun owners.   Just my two-cents worth.

Yep, that just reinforces my prior opinion...

I think folks need to fully understand that we have a federal government, specifically within the executive branch and with accomplices in the congress who are, in fact, at war with the citizenry... The war is a cold war (...thankfully...); but it's a war none the less...   The political class calling the shots today is for the most part a redux of the "Divine right of kings (...and queens...)" to tell us rabble what to do and how to do it; with a good dose of post civil war reconstruction thrown in.. Look at the pronouncements of Elenor Holmes Norton the other day... "... You (... citizens...) have no right to know everything that government does..."...   The left wing of the Democrat party and some complicit republicans believe that they are, in fact, the smartest people in the room and that they can do anything they are big enough to do... They are busy trying to turn this country into a land of serfs and slave masters; with them being the masters, of course; and folks need to understand that fully... That's why it's so important to vote these people out... If you don't beat them politically, you may be called on to beat them with the bayonet; and no one wants that...   I'm a relatively old geezer and ive never seen the political scene as hot as it is today... It's that way because of an imperious, overbearing, hateful, vindictive would be tyrant is sitting in the white house with a bunch of like-minded lieutenants; and if it's possible; the same sort of person is sitting in the majority leader's spot in the senate...     The bottom line of this little epistle is as the elections get closer; these idiots will get worse and more high-handed... Remember to vote early and often; these sons of b****es will...   leroy

Got an email from Ruger today about this.  The one major drawback I've heard about the LC9 is it's long double-action trigger pull.  This new striker-fired version could be very, very interesting...   https://ruger-hosted.s3.amazonaws.com/email/3235-SellSheet-Hf8E3P74Sa.pdf

Larper Starfish DHITP Dependapotamus This thread is educational, lol ETA: Donkey Punch , Haha

FNG bravo foxtrot douchebag. would love to see dick marcinko ( retired seal,team 6 creator,venturas age) of all people, wipe his ass with him...how fng deplorable...  if he settled w the estate for a dollar on principle id change my opinion, but to hit her and her child for that kind of coin is reprehensible.what a bloody clumpy douche.

Groundclear, 1 qt to a gallon of water, spray as needed.

[quote name="Dolomite_supafly" post="1173459" timestamp="1406664846"]So I wonder which caliber is best for the other boyfriend to use when he comes to "visit"? [/quote] I thought these types would be into medieval weapons. This is based on my observation of larpers at the park.

So will eating too many doughnuts but people still do that everyday too....   Yes I agree, in the REAL WORLD you don't get to see it in advance.....but IDPA is not a REAL criminal assault it is a game we play to keep from having to clean the house and mow the lawn one weekend every month. As such...I'd like to see the stages.    If we made a "sport" that was just like the real thing only 3 people would show up....and they'd all go home with bruises and bruised egos. 

The point has been made, but it appears it has yet to be taken. When he ditches her, then anything after will just be rubbing salt in the wounds. We're trying to save a brother's future here!

This is definitely the thread of the year, should send the OP a free t-shirt or something

My blower started bogging down, it turned out to be the fuel filter, a lot of years of oil built up. Took it out and cleaned it, runs like a champ now.

[quote name="wtl" post="1173361" timestamp="1406653162"]That would be encouragement. Put up Mexican flags and make'em think they took a wrong turn.[/quote]Put up sniper towers instead, with night vision cameras and scopes, and let it be known that illegal crossings will be fired upon. One or two dead border crossers would be enough to keep that section secure.

Damn, David's post was good. :lol: :lol: Do not be at all surprised if that is a lie she told you. Obviously you can't trust this girl, it wouldn't surprise me of she's secretly been on the pill all this time and now that she thinks her free ride may be coming to an end, well... Might just be a medical miracle all of a sudden and she's got an income for the next 18 years! I hate to pile on, but you really don't seem to be getting it. Leave her. Now. No counseling, no second chance, both of you need to be out of Grandma and Grandpa's house by the end of the week. If nothing else you need to be stacking boxes in a warehouse or cooking eggs at Waffle House and living in a motel room for a week or two, and she just needs to be gone. Anywhere except where you are. As the others have said, it's time for both of you to put your grow up pants on and go see what the real world looks like. Why play video games simulating the real world web you can go live a real life? Or, you know...don't. Keep doing what you're doing, and end up exactly where you are now on three years with a kid or two that you can't support and her off who knows where with her newest sucker. I hate to sound mean here, but from your other posts in this thread I think that may be the more likely outcome. Get up, get out, go do something and build a little confidence in yourself because you really can do it. Nobody else can do it for you. Or... Don't. It's your life.

  Now that is funny.  I am going to borrow that one for sure.

Luke, you are being played and this time it is going to hurt even worse.  So neither of you can get out and get a job, I find that hard to believe.  She can work at McDonalds, but why would she do that when she can sponge off of your grandparents generosity.  Of course she wants to go to counseling, she wants a roof over her head while she continues to dupe you into thinking she loves you and you believing there is still a chance.  It reminds me of the line in Dumb and Dumber (wasn't planning on a pun, but it seems to fit) and that is "Your chances of winning the lottery are 1 in 250 million.  Response, so you mean we still have a chance!".  Answer, No you don't.     Sorry to be blunt, but now is the time for some tough love.  I wish I knew your grandparents.  I would probably tell them to throw both of you out.  I wanted to give you the benefit of the doubt, but to David's point earlier, you set your own path on this one.  At least kick her to the curb and save some of your self-respect.  There will be none left soon.

So you've been dating for 10 years, since you were both teenagers.  How long have you been engaged?  If more than 1 year, bail.  Neither of you has the commitment necessary.  People who want to get married get engaged, make wedding plans, and get married, typically in less than a year.  People who aren't sure stay engaged for a long time and talk about getting married some day.    Both of you need to go live life for a while (at least a couple years) and learn what its like to be an independent adult.  Maybe you'll get back together later after you've both grown up a bit, maybe not.  Counseling is a waste of time/money at this point. 

[quote name="Dolomite_supafly" post="1173279" timestamp="1406639969"]FORGET COUNSELLING!!! Counseling will not help one bit. All the cards are in your deck and now is the time to kick her out before she ends up pregnant. This is what is probably going to happen. You guys go to counseling, she is going to apologize, you guys are going to make up, have sex, then in your August post you post about how you cannot kick your pregnant fiancé out of the house. Then shortly after finding out she is pregnant she is going file for a protective order have YOU kicked out of your grandparent's house so she can move a boyfriend in. After that she will file for child support, get it, then you spend the next 18 years battling to see your child while she makes you pay, both financially and criminally because every time you go to see your child she will call the cops and have you arrested. From what you have said she is immature and is looking to be a victim, don't give her the chance to ruin your life. You will never be able to own a firearm again in your life. And one thing to assume is, no matter how well you may know here, she is an awful person.[/quote] Or it can all work out like a disney movie Good luck 😱😱😱😱😱😱😱

  Dude is wearing that cheese burger body armor also. :D

    Agreed.  I try to be an informed voter, but that's really hard to do when there's very little information out there on any of the candidates save the big names.  Seems very odd to me that someone running for a public office doesn't create a simple website with some basic info on it.  Or maybe my google-fu is broken.  I'm leaning toward the whole "boot the incumbents" idea, but I'd really like to know who I'm voting in before I vote them out.  The next guy might be worse...    :shrug:  

EJECT! Punch out, Goose! Run, do not walk. Get while the gettin's good. I can tell you with great authority that marriage does not make situations like yours any better. She's trouble spelled with all capital letters. Cut your losses, chalk it up to the fact that she's batsh*t crazy, and go find happiness somewhere else. You don't have to end up alone, but being alone is better than being with someone who devalues you and places ultimatums on you like this. Get a dog. Get a cat. Get a goldfish. Get a picture of a goldfish and talk to that picture if you have to. Hell, get a picture of Taylor Swift and paste it on the ceiling above your bed. But don't stay in this mess one second more than you have to.

Wow. There's 6 pages of thread here and counting and everyone agrees. That's gotta be a record. I think the OP deserves an award. We could call it the DHITP award. :D

I hate 2 cycle engines.  I am considering a 4 stroke weed eater next year.

Anyone who says you need to "fight to keep them" should be discarded immediately. Never, ever fight to "win" or "keep" a lady. If she doesn't think you're good enough for her, than she is definitely not relationship material. It will end badly eventually once you stop living up to her expectations. Girls seem to be raised to think that the onus is on the man to achieve some level of worthiness to win a relationship. That is a materialistic view of how a relationship should work. A relationship should be built on a foundation of mutual love and respect. The second a person says they deserve better, help them out and set them free.

Is your girlfriend 15 years old?

You can now carry a gun in your car in Tennessee without a permit, Illinois now has carry permits and the Illinois Supreme Court has acknowledged carry outside the home as a right, DC gun ban is probably dead, all the gun control the feds have tried to pass has been shot down. So I don’t think the gun community needs or deserves a dressing down or name calling. But that’s just my opinion.

Buy her a bus ticket to Michigan and live happily ever after.

If my wife told me she had been talking to a man in Michigan online and now he's threatening me, the least of my worries would be the dude in Michigan That said, if you have his real name you could at the very least file an order of protection providing you can prove the threat. Otherwise I'd deal with the other 50% of the problem

I would want a wider board to stand on.