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Nowhere is even close. I'll ride out the storm. Or fight it out if need be.

I ain't going nowhere. I'll fight to save this country.

I just picked this up for a song (OOOOOklahoma....ok too much coffee this morning) and its sweet. It is a F.E.G. P9RK in 9mm. All metal pistol, SA/DA with decocker/safety, finger grips, crappy sights and 2 15rd factory metal mags. I have already replaced some missing springs (maybe why I got it so cheap) and have not yet fired it. There is just something about an all metal pistol....vintage, sexy...I think I'll call her Zsa Zsa. http:// http://

someone raises the bar.

I'm with you...too many patriots have given the ultimate sacrifice to make this the land of the free and home of the brave - the only place I'm going is to the front lines. Sent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk

This aint got a damn thing to do with public safety, or money...     The powers that be, do not want the minions(us) to have guns...It's just that simple...They are afraid of the populous, because we outnumber them greatly, and it's not very smart for a few thousand ultra rich people to piss off 300 million people with guns...Hence the nonstop efforts by them to disarm the people...Once we are disarmed, then they basically do whatever the hell they want to do to us without fear of reprisal...   Resistance is crucial....

  There are rumors that Idaho will become part of the USA soon.   - OS

No way am I leaving, this is the greatest country in the world. Besides I dont speak any other languages.

For town carry, if the snubby is on me then I keep an HK speedloader in my front pocket and another in the console in the car.  Never had a single problem with them.  Like MattCarry and oldman, I also have a full box in the trunk, and a speed strip or two with it - 158 gr. .357 mag hollowpoint.  When I'm in dress clothes that cause a speedloader to stand out I carry speed strips instead.   For knocking around in the woods I normally carry a larger gun crossdraw, with an HK speedloader or two full of Buffalo Bore 180 gr. .357 mag on my belt, strong side.   At the farm predator animals are more of a concern than bad guys, and slower reloading is fine.  There, I'll often just keep a speed strip on my belt in a carrier from Simply Rugged.  With a good belt carrier, a speed strip stays out of the way during chores but is always within easy, quick reach.   You often hear people say that revolvers will fire any kind of ammo.  But ammo selection is still worth considering, and especially for snubbies.  For example, much of the added power of really hot premium magnum ammo is lost when those rounds are fired from barrels under 3", so it's probably not worth the extra recoil in a belly gun.

  Hard to beat a piston AR for under $700 shipped

Not so fast.   CAI is importing a lot of milspec guns that are some of the best on the market. Dare I say it but CAI is the top importer of top quality guns. In the past there have been issues but I have not heard of any widespread problems from CAI imported or built guns in the last 3 years. The only exception to that is the PAP. It had some issues with the bolt carrier being too soft but CAI did not produce those but they are making it right for any owner who complains. And it only applies to certain PAPs. Nothing wrong with the N-PAP DF as it is a current production, 100% foreign made, AK built by the Zastava corporation that would be the AK I would pick if I had to have an under folder.   And every single time I have contacted CAI they have been wanting to help. I called in with a simple question and one of the tech guys spent 45 minutes on the phone. I have never been placed on hold, they have always been extremely nice and helpful. I can say that there are plenty of other firearm manufacturers that are way, way worse as far as customer service and quality of their firearms.   WASRs, for example, are probably the best milspec AK on the market right now. The older WASRs had issues but the current production Romanian guns are 100% foreign made using 100% brand new parts. No more WASRs are being made using older parts from demilled guns. And so far the six or seven Romanian AKs I have bought in the last two years have been PERFECT. And if I had to grab just one gun today to trust my life to it would be a current production WASR regardless of price.   Cold hammer forged barrels, that are chrome lined, will last several lifetimes and everything else that makes up a current production WASR is as good as anything I have ever shot, used or owned. Not a single Romanian gun I have owned, or shot, has EVER had a malfunction. They are as accurate as any AK I have ever shot and it seems like the current production is a lot more accurate. Reports are coming in that they are shooting under 2 MOA using cheap ammunition which is better than most ARs, or other AKs, using milspec ammunition. But realistically as long as it can reliably shoot minute of bad guy inside of 200 yards it is acceptable for me.   And the guns they are currently manufacturing are a lot better than in the past and definitely better than anyone else in the same price range. No other manufacturer or importer can compare to CAI when price and quality are the major deciding factor. You won't find another manufacturer's gun that is as good as the WASR for the same price or even within a few hundred dollars of the WASR price.   I would like to know about another manufacturer selling a foreign made milspec AK with a forged barrel for under $600 shipped. The US is great at making ARs, it is "our" gun but we are decades behind even the most rudimentary foreign AK manufacturer. We see it over and over again, US manufacturers trying to duplicate the durability, reliability and accuracy of a foreign made AK only to fail unless it costs 2x more than the gun they are competing with. So why spend 2x as much to get a gun that is probably not as good as the gun that costs 1/2 as much.   Most of the "custom" AK builders out there are not builders. They are assemblers at best because all that most of them do is swap out parts, much like assembling an AR, then charge thousands more for the parts and labor that anyone can install themselves. They claim that when they "smooth" the action it is an added bonus but in reality anyone can do it in 20 minutes using 600 grit sandpaper to smooth the rails, bolt and carrier so the gun feels smoother. And the go to starting platform for all these "custom" builders has been the Saiga because it was so cheap to begin with. So, as you can imagine, these "custom" builders are now using the WASRs instead of the Saigas because of the ban. They take a $500 WASR, apply a few hours worth of labor installing parts and sanding the internal surfaces then charge the end user $2,500+ dollars for a gun the manufacturer probably has less than $1,000 in. And the absolutely worse part of the who thing is anything these modification do can be done by anyone with half a brain.

I carry the +P 158 gr lead semi-wadcutter hollow points. BTW, I've had the opposite experience with Safariland loaders. It was the HK loaders that were dumping in my pocket.

I go back and forth on which I prefer the most. I think I prefer the HKS over the Safairland when comparing speedloaders; I have never had the HKS open in the pocket like the Safariland has, but the safariland comp1 is bit faster. The speeds trips give the advantage if you are carrying different models of revolvers and you don't have to worry about clearing oversized grips. You can also easily top off unlike with a speedloader. I often switch between a k frame and a j frame so the speed strip has an advantage, and they are not much slower.

Because I believe that bullets to any part of this paper are good shots on target :) A lot to the everywhere aproach.

Picked up a new Ruger LC9S yesterday at Guns and Leather at an excellent price. Thank you Daniel for another great deal. I bring the gun home and did a detail strip for cleaning, etc. All went well until I put the manual safety spring back in. After two hours of searching for it after it slipped off I gave Ruger a call for a replacement. They are shipping me a new one at no charge and paying for shipping. This is excellent customer service IMHO. I know I don't need the safety but I feel better having it in. Also the CS rep informed me that they are no longer including a cartridge case with their firearms because the two states that required it no longer do.Since I had the box in front of me she was correct. So, I gave her the serial number to find out when the gun was born. It is from June of 2015. Maybe next week after I put the spring in I will take it to the range for function testing and if all goes well add it to my carry rotation after I purchase a box of defensive ammo.

Hello all,   New to the Board. I think even before I post I am going to enjoy this board. I know you will make me feel at home and I look forward to coming home.   Raised in Nashville. Been here 35 years. Been carrying for about 2 years. And I shoot regularly. Try to shoot at least once a month.   Thanks for allowing me to join up.   rd

Woahhh. So much stupid! Sent from my SPH-L720 using Tapatalk

Now where exactly are your game camera's? GPS coordinates will be fine. Thanks. :rofl:

In this particular case, it doesn't matter since the smell is the same...

That's actually in style nowadays. It's all retro and stuff. 

If you are a business man and can use a car in your business, lease is a better way to go on taxes, vs. the depreciation route method. 

For most everyday situations it's more of, not which dangerous places am I going to choose to go into, it's a matter of which dangerous persons might interject themselves into the normally safe environments I choose to go into.

Porta potty???

I found some numbers.   In 2014 there were 623 people killed at the hands of approximately 900,000 police officers in the US. It does not say whether these shoots were good or bad. That works out to .00069 deaths per officer.   There is an estimated 11.1 million people who carry a firearm for self defense in the US. That is ~11,100,000. And those 11.1 million people killed, on average, 76 people a year. That works out to .00000685 deaths per person carrying a firearm for self defense.    You are 100x more likely to be killed by a LE officer than by someone who carries a firearm for self defense. Even if these number are off by 50% you are more likely to be wrongfully killed by a LE officer than a person carrying a gun for self defense. So those "experts" are full of it.   But if you don't compare the numbers to each other and actually look at the percentages you realize that the actual chance of being killed by a person carrying a gun for self defense is nearly a statistical improbability. You are probably more likely to be killed by fireworks, drowning, car accident, stroke or heart disease than by LE or a person carrying a gun for self defense.   references: http://crimepreventionresearchcenter.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Concealed-Carry-Permit-Holders-Across-the-United-States.pdf http://www.nleomf.org/facts/enforcement/ http://www.gunfacts.info/gun-control-myths/concealed-carry/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_killings_by_law_enforcement_officers_in_the_United_States,_2014   But even if my numbers are off by 50% your are still more likely to die at the hands of LE than at the hand of a person who carries a firearm for self defense.

  Yes it was Cirillo. Unfortunately he died in an auto accident in 2007 iirc. What a loss to the firearms and self defense community. And then Gomez in 2012...a huge loss...Great guy and one of the most firearm/self defense knowledgeable people I've known.   I can certainly appreciate what you are saying, and we all have to live by our decisions in life...but I carry my own version of the Safe Stop loads (I knew Fuzzy) and I'm comfortable with it. I know others caution against it, for the very reasons you mentioned...and that's sound advice... But I'm good with my choice...I would never recommend another do so, just mentioning it's an option...

When I carry my J-frames or K-frames I carry a speed strip. You can’t carry speed loaders without them being in a pouch; they will get twisted or punched. When carrying revolvers I do so knowing that if I need more than a cylinder full; I’m in trouble. The chances of that happening though are probably about same as winning the lottery. If I’m going to be someone where I believe the chances are greater I carry a gun with more capacity or one that uses magazines.

That's OK OS, the government is caving to the "Black Lives Matter" crowd, so shortly the cops will be disarmed as well. Just wait till the general public gets a dose of that...

I suck, therefore I am.

Leases can be very good options in some cases. Won't get into a big argument over it as there are merits to both. Now to answer your question, both is the answer. To understand a lease, you need to understand some primary terms. Net Cap Cost - price of vehicle after all incentives, discounts, taxes, etc Money Factor - interest rate paid on the lease. This is a decimal value, not apr. Residual - % of car value after the lease period. This is based on msrp. Lease term, and miles. - this affects residual value Without getting into the math and to keep it simple, generally, the MF and Residual are calculated by the Manufacturer. The Net Cap cost is based on how much the dealer wants to deal. It also includes any down payment from the buyer that decreases net cap cost. There is also something called Multiple Security Deposits (MSD's) that can lower a money factor. Plug these numbers into a lease calculator and you can determine where the difference is coming from. Assuming the cars are the exact same, it would either be that they are having the customer pay more down, using a higher residual, or using a lower MF. Probably all three. Dealers make money on the MF, so know what it should be by checking somewhere like Edmunds. I am considering leasing a new Audi A6 and have done a ton of research on this. Edmunds has some good info if you really want to understand all of it. Hope that helps.

Piston Adams Arms $629   http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/837/products_id/411555894/Reserve+Order+Guns/Adams+Arms+16%22+Carbine+5.56+30%2B1+Piston+Blem?utm_source=email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=AR7-31-15

It does seem as if wadcutters are harder to find than people imply. I think the few times I have seen them it was at smaller gun stores. I think they are a little over rated for defense though. Every gel test I have seen it does the exact same as round nose ammunition with the exception of over penetrating. If I had a j frame not rated for plus p like a S&W 36, 40, 60, or a 39 I would probably still carry with the Speer GD. The lighter recoil of the Speers, especially the 125, steer me to believe that they are not under as much pressure. I may still do the same for an early airweight like the 37, 42, or 38 even though they are extremely delicate.

I find wadcutters "out of stock" at Midway or CTD and get put on the notification list. When it comes in, I get several boxes. Starting in about 1996, all S&W j-frames are rated for +P.

There is some great info on this thread. The "Care and feeding" of the revolver, in particular the venerable snubbie, is a dying art. So, Well Done folks! :up:     I agree with Patton on the HKS speedloaders. I have some of each. I too have had the Safariland dump in my pocket and also find the "looseness" of the rounds in an HKS allow a more positive load under pressure.   Nice setup Moped! Love those Tyler T-grips! :pleased:   Good points graycrait, but sometimes a snubbie is the best mode of carry. In an NPE (Non-Permissive Environment) you can make a snubbie simply disappear...like in a properly worn bellyband holster(i.e. worn just below the belt line).   I think the Nemesis is a good holster as well...and at a good price. Mine is a Mika and it's going on 15 years+ now. Runs quite well out of my Carhartt blue jeans.   http://www.frontiernet.net/~akim/   I recently read this book on snubbies. Not a bad read and has some good info in case anyone is interested. "The Snubby Revolver: The ECQ, Backup, and Concealed Carry Standard" by ED Lovette.   http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1581605714?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00   Some great info was imparted at a "Snub Conference" back in 2005. A good bit of it has been uploaded to Youtube. Paul Gomez, Craig Douglas, Jim Cirillo, and Claude Werner were some of the folks involved. I unfortunately had to miss it, so I am thankful the info was uploaded.   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0EanvOh-5o

This is my setup as well.

I don't carry a revolver any more, but when I did, I used speed strips.  At first, I found them a little awkward, but after a little practice, I found them to be fairly efficient. 

I generally carry two speed strips in a fabric pouch my MIL sewed for me. The tabs stick out the top and there is a divider in the middle. The rounds of one strip nest between the other strip so the thickness is less than two.

After taking a combat handgun course for snubbies the instructor asked me, "Craig, what do you think?"  I told him, "As much as I like revolvers I am going to sell my two snubbies and stick with a Glock for self defense."  If you need more than 5 shots you need to practice and practice and practice.  Drop a 15 rd mag and reload another in Glock practical terms is  so much faster than any revolver - Jerry Miculek excluded.

Here is my set up. I may continue to carry the HKS for a while yet. I also have an old dump pouch. I think I will practice loading with a dump pouch, just see how it well it works. Sent from my SM-G860P using Tapatalk

  That circumstance/condition no longer exists in TCA, just to be perfectly clear.   The statute allows a "firearm". A NFA firearm is a "firearm".  Anything illegal about it would be regarding NFA specific provisions of Federal or TN law, but not the fact that you possessed it in your vehicle in this state.   TN has no NFA related requirements beyond the Federal standards -- nearly the opposite actually since it has recently passed "innocent by default" regarding their possession and further,  that TN will basically expend no fiscal effort to help in Federal firearms enforcement, which includes state personnel or property.   Of course there is nothing in Federal law regarding possession of them in vehicle, except the state line thing.   edit: btmatto, you don't have to "own" the vehicle, just be in "legal possession" of it, so includes others' cars and rentals too. Does not include gummit or private vehicle supplied by employer who has written policy against possession.   - OS

Nice shop!  They had a very good selection of .22 ammo at reasonable prices.  Yesterday I stopped to get ammo and left with a DW Guardian.

Savage 10/110 series are WAY cheaper. You can find an accutrigger model Savage, with a scope, for under $400. That is not the Axis or Edge but a really Savage.

Cause I'm a left handed shooter in a right handed world.

I finished my 1st SBR build with my brother in law recently. Geissele combat trigger Troy alpha rail Noveske 300 BLk 8 in barrel AAC 2.0 brake AAC SR7 Bravo company BCG Magpul K grip BAD ambi safety Strategic edge light Aimpoint T1 A bunch of other ridiculously expensive things that put me in a bind with my wife. But forgiveness, not permission, right? Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk

I suck because I just can't shoot very well.

Ana Popovic has become one of my new favorites. She plays a mean guitar and has that raspy, bluesy voice.    https://youtu.be/GHIEpKopqWk?list=RDj5CLzJcfDss    

Heading to the lease this weekend to pull sd cards. Gonna plant 2 food plots, hang a couple new stands and fill the feeders for the last time before the season. Hope I have some good bucks to share with y'all.

If Ponch & Jon would have been on their toes they would have stopped these 2 suspicious motorcycle riders that went into the store with their helmets on.   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hP005cw2jIk

You follow your instincts. We can’t tell from that video what that Officer saw or why he did what he did. And the law doesn’t require him to explain it. Being concerned about it is certainly your right; staying alive is his right, and his duty to his family. A Memphis Police Officer was just shot to death because he walked up on a convicted felon that was in possession of a minor amount of pot. You never know what people will do. An Ohio (I think) Police Officer was shot to death while testing a DUI suspect that was armed and had a carry permit. When he tried to cuff the suspect a fight ensued and he was shot. The Carry Permit holder then stood over him and shot him two more times. Hindsight is 20/20. Maybe if that Officer had disarmed him the moment they made contact; he would be alive today. Maybe not; who knows. Cops are shot all the time and many times it’s not a hardened criminal but someone that is emotionally upset, drunk, or on drugs. Even though I am not required to do so; I will notify the Officer that I have a HCP and I am armed. Then there will be no surprises and he can let me know how we will proceed.

Heck I flew over all my neighbors' property today checking out damage from the high winds. Saved one neighbor across the street from having to drag a ladder out to check his roof for damage. Granted I started from 300 feet up circling a radius of 500 feet, before dropping to the deck at the neighbor's request for his personal fly by.

I don't reload as it would take too much time away from posting on TGO. However, I do have friends who do... I believes battleop captures the essence and zen of Reloading.