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Lots of fun today at the range! Just wanted to SHOW you my fire and TELL you how much fun I had today! Happy St. Pattys Day!

Class experiences have a way of weeding out gear that is...."sub-optimal".  Until you really experience the "Why" a particular gun or piece of gear is less than ideal you really don't have a grasp of why you need to upgrade. Until you see it fail it is still just "other people's opinions". When it refuses to shoot more than 3 rounds without malfunctioning, or until you experience how difficult it is to press the trigger , or work the slide (these are generalities not particular to any one particular gun ) then it becomes fact that you discovered...not just something someone told you.....   I tell students all the time that class is also an equipment lab for them to test their kit. I tell them to bring what you actually carry on a daily basis to pistol classes , or what you actually plan to use in case of home invasion, natural disaster, Indian uprising or zombie apocalypse for rifle and shotgun classes. Until you try to run your actual gear you actually  plan to use then you have no real idea how well (or not) it will perform.  Best to find that out in class and not on the two way range. 

Talk to both of them at the same time. If you can have a better chose to show them with you. Have something to compare against the Raven.

Raven 25, wow.  That's a real Saturday Night Special.  What a piece of crap.   I would say something along the lines that the gun can be the difference between life and death.  A fancy gun isn't needed but a quality gun is a must and that someone planning on using a gun for self defense needs to plan on spending about this amount.

If there had been a surgery that would have saved my friends life, I would have sold everything I have.

There comes a time...been there and hated every second of it.

Would it be easier to use the find "find my phone" function on her cell phone? Then you can pull up a real time map.

There has always been something about some red heads that caught my eye too.

So my new neighbor Hadji Al-Asswahpi decided to cut his grass today after burning a flag on it yesterday.... Karma is a bitch.... <efg> Let's make America great again!!!

I'm thinking Carol is slipping into a dangerous place mentally, even though she was active in killing several more people. She would never have hesitated to shoot the red head before, but was having a problem in this episode. At the end of the last scene, she was squeezing the cross she had sharpened to escape and blood dripped out of her hand. This was a response to Rick shooting the bad guy in the head. She would never have done that before. Something is changing in her mind and its not a good thing. I see Maggie becoming a ferocious wolf den mother when in danger because of her baby. 

Its really, really hard to beat PSA unless you want to build your own from scratch. Even then it's tough price wise unless you just have to have _____ hand guards or a barrel made by ______. And even THEN it's tough to beat unless you have yourself fooled into thinking this will be your only AR and you won't have any need or want of extra parts. :rofl: One AR. :rofl:

Burnt OUR flag? Should be a skeleton on it inmo!

      Yeah, I have gone the way of the Czech and have just really enjoyed the solid build and quality firearms that the Czechs make. 

I guess I'm a bit late to this party, but I do have a couple. I'm partial to the U.S. guns. :usa: Get your paperwork together and make a little road trip to the CMP South Store in Anniston, Ala. There you can pick and choose from what they have in the store and take it home right then. The staff is extremely helpful and will loan you bore and chamber gauges to help you make a selection. That's what I did and have never regretted it. :up: Come on now. The paperwork isn't that difficult, you get to pick your own rifle, you know its in good condition and its not that far of a drive from anywhere in Tennessee. Not to mention that it'll save a at minimum a several hundred over what you might find locally. CMP Garands won't last much longer. The supply is running out. The time to get one is NOW. ;)

Just tell her she could do better, and a better gun would help too :angel:  :devil:

You're likely wasting your breath until they've had the experience of shooting the pistol and getting frustrated on their own.   If they get frustrated, that gives you an opening to help them learn.  But, up to that point, it involves throwing the husband under the bus.

Ask if you'd spend that much on yourself because that's really what you are doing.   The answer becomes easy after you answer that question.   I used to foolishly say in disbelief that there is no way I'd spend that kind of money on a dog.   I now have one laying at my feet that is very near and dear to my heart.   If I knew that he'd be fine and enjoy a reasonable quality of life after a several thousand dollar surgery I'd do it in a heartbeat.  

Anti snake bite serum and treatment: $2000 plus.   Scratched cornea diagnoses, ointments, surgery and treatment: $2000 plus.   Unconditional love: Priceless.

Good riddance. Newsflash!! Breaking news, this just in! You can increase your chances of NOT getting shot by an order of magnitude....All you have to do is not be a damn criminal.

http://youtu.be/XchwE9zVdnw

Well, when you are raised by government and basically taught there is no accountability for any action, everything is given to people and the culture around you is based on nothing but crime and corruption with no consequences in most ghetto homes, there you go. An entire subculture of takers is born and they can't differentiate between taking handouts or stealing from someone with more than them, or even less. 

There's a dash cam by Cobra that I installed in my daughter's car a few months ago when she started driving.  Not only does it record video and audio, but GPS data and speed. She got a speeding ticked a few weeks ago.  She swears she wasn't doing 30 over the limit.  But, of course, the dash cam suction cup lost its seal, and she's not quite sure where it ended up... Technology is nice.  When it works.  And, perhaps, when it isn't sabotaged... ETA: Oh, yeah.  She's also paying for the ticket.  And the increase in insurance, if she can't get it dismissed with traffic school.  And she's buying a new dash cam.

Remember to take out the back seat too!

I'm going to break from the pack with another piece of input.  I haven't taught shooting classes and can't speak from experience in that instance.   I've spent my career talking to people about buying something from me.  I have always viewed my role as educating and enabling them to make the best decision for their company.  I've been in hundreds of situations where the prospective client made a big mistake.     I always say, 'This is your decision.  I think the best choice for you is X and here is why.  Sometimes they follow what I say and sometimes they don't.  Once they listen to what I say I then respect the decision they make.   In this case, I think it makes sense to bring it up with both of them.  Assuming that you are working with her tomorrow, I would bring it up and offer to let her use one of your guns whether or not her husband is there.  She's investing 8 hours on Sunday.  You are looking out for her by sharing this.  If he isn't there you can always suggest she talk it over with her husband.   I don't view this as throwing the husband under the bus.  Most likely, he is un-educated about guns and doesn't know the Raven is a piece of crap and that a .25 isn't a good defensive round.

How about today?

Usually every class has someone that needs guidance. I give generalized guidelines/ suggestions early on in the class. I hate for new shooters to have trouble during qualification. If they insist on using a difficult gun, I will get them to change out to a 22 pretty quick. Also generally no good reason to go buy a gun just for a carry class. Plenty of time later to make good, informed choice.

Had one long ago. Got it and ammo at a Western Auto, no forms just gave them money

What makes you think it isn't an 1896 S&W? I believe it is.

This is one of the things I am really looking forward to with my move out to Alamo in a couple of weeks. I'm gonna be able to shoot on my own property. :D

I will raise you 2 nopes-I have lived in the area for the better part of 20 years and have found no-where free to shoot-zip-zero-nadda-nill.I originally came from an area where there were many places to shoot for free.

Constitutional carry is a more pressing issue than fully unrestricted carry. It represents the greater infringement upon a natural right of the two options.

It's the one we used for the TGO pups. We raised $2,080!!! Didn't hit our goal, but came damn close! It's still open!

  I won't go over some of the 'known' items that the OP mentioned, save one, the grips.  I had them made by a guy over at CZFirearms forums.  They are black layers of linen fabric in a phenolic resin.   The magic is in the trigger and the accuracy.  With new CGW internals, 85C trigger and new stainless Ring hammer, the DA pull is a 7 lbs 13 ounces and the SA is a very sweet 3 lbs 13 ounces.  SA reset is 2.5 mm.  Barrel bushing is from Wilson Combat and the lockup is extremely tight, in a good way.  Shot over 100 rounds last night with no hiccups using 230 ball and 230 HST defense from Federal.  As far as accuracy, it exceeded my expectations.  Granted, I'm not a NRA bullseye shooter nor do I handload for pistol, but at 15 yards from a standing two-handed position, if I did my part five shot groups were sub-three inches.   All in all, great feeling pistol.  Had that great feel before sending off to CGW but now the trigger and barrel lockup put this black beauty in a different category.          

I'd add too, that everyone's situation is different. And don't feel bad if the money is just too much. You 2 legged family comes first. Didn't want my earlier post to sound harsh. Also, side note regarding the symptoms... my dad's dog once had liver issues like that, and they did a bunch of tests only to figure out a neighbor was poisoning him... but sometimes also they just get into something that's bad for them and they don't know better

He who finds roll pin must build rifle ASAP

For me, it comes down to what will be the dogs quality of life if it is successful.  Even if it is successful, can he lead a fairly normal, active life.  He is very young, so age isn't really a factor for me in a decision like this.     Only you can say if you can afford it.  I have spent thousands on my dogs in the past, but I was fortunate it wouldn't keep me from making the house payment and I am single and they have been my kids.  Almost all vets will work out a payment plan as well.     If I was fairly certain they knew what the problem was and were confident it could be fixed (more accurately, managed) by surgery, I would do it.  If I wasn't 80% sure, as much as I would hate to, I would probably euthanize the dog.  Not so much because of the money, but the fact that I wasn't convinced the dog wouldn't suffer.   It's heart wrenching I know.  

She went to check here house after the alarm system alerted her. She sees the criminal coming out and I'm sure had words, this then turned in to a confrontation. I'm sure the criminal had respect for the older than him woman, but it's likely he not only threatened her but went to attack her. Some of this I read, some I assumed. I think she should sue the punks family!

  What would be really cool is if you could do like the late great Tom Knapp did with a shotgun, eject the spent case and shoot it with the next round before it hits the ground. Do that with a semi-auto pistol and you would really be a bad a$$.  :)   UGG, of course you would have to be turning 90+ degrees with each shot, better not have an audience.

Yes, but it only takes a few seconds. You don't need to put it on heavy. I spray at about a 45 degree angle down to get it on the outside and inside of the neck at the same time.

She said he was a student at D. A. Dorsey Technical College.   According to family members they stated "He had a future ahead of him. Trevon had goals… he was a funny guy, very big on education, loved learning.”   So this kid had all of this going for him and so smart yet he still felt he had to break into some ones home home and steal from them. They mentioned he loved learning. Well then he should have learned you don't break into someones home and steal from hem. His learning days are over.........jmho.

I'd consider doing both the "find my phone" app and a car mounted GPS. I'd also install a dash mounted camera. Then I'd sit down with her and have a discussion with her. She has the freedom to use the vehicle and go where you allow her to go so far as she abides by your rules. You have the right to check on her vehicle operation skills and be able to locate her if you are concerned for her safety.   Additionally the GPS and dash mounted camera can be used to provide a clear and unbiased representation of the facts if she's involved in an accident or is stopped by a police officer. If her friends have issues with this then they aren't true friends. If she has issues with this then she doesn't understand it can either save her life or save her drivers license.

Honestly, when a family comes out after something like this and spouts things that basically say that it is okay for a person to go 'shopping' at someone else's house because that person was raised in the 'hood I do not feel a bit sorry for their loss.  "Where will he get money for clothes." etc.  Who cares?  Where the hell do these people think the homeowner got the money for the stuff he was there to steal - from a friggin' pot of gold at the end of a rainbow?  How is it that homeowner's responsibility to see that Trevon has clothes and so on?  Screw the lot of them.  Further, I don't feel a bit sorry for the dead guy, either, nor do I think his death is in any way a 'tragedy' or even a real loss.  Bottom line: thug broke into middle-aged lady's house, middle-aged lady decided not to be a victim, thug got dead and won't be breaking into any more homes.  The only sympathy I feel is for the homeowner who was dragged into this situation by the aforementioned thug.

Yeah, I would go with a hidden phone app.  Kids will die before leaving their phone behind.

I just can't seem to muster up one ounce of sympathy for this guy or his family.  He was a grown man.  He knew right from wrong, it has nothing to do with Ghetto, etc. 

Most “move over” laws only require you to move over if you can do so safely. If that’s why he did that; he has big problems. Being fired would be the least of his worries he could be arrested. There is nothing in that video to show why he would have done what he did. I guess we will wait and see what happens.

That's the least they should do considering the overinflated cost.

Had an older guy tell me when I got engaged "Boy, right now you love that girl so much that you could just about eat her...in a few years you will wish you would have." That was followed up by "I could have been out of prison by now." Wise old man lol

Congratulations! But remember, marriage is the #1 cause of divorce! Hahahahaha

I've always looked at the occasional speeding ticket as a tax I pay to drive however I want to ...

Sounds like a sheriff that doesn't care about getting a second term.