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To me this just points out how overbearing our own government has become. If they want you, they will do anything, say anything or make up any excuse to get you. This guy may have beaten the rap, but look what it cost him. He stayed of of jail, but .gov got what they wanted anyway.

Probably the best thing you can do for the ones you leave behind is to keep good records for your guns. They will need to know: Make Model Serial number When you bought it What you paid Current value Doing this will keep them from getting screwed when they find themselves having to dispose of your collection. Some of you may remember that a couple of years ago I had to dispose of a late friend's collection for his wife. Thankfully he kept good records. The goal was to sell them and do so quickly. By having his records, being able to identify exactly each gun and knowing what he paid for them, I was able to price his guns attractively to sell quickly, but at the same time make sure his wife didn't lose any money on them. Remember, tomorrow is promised to no one. While you may intend to sell them off yourself, be prepared just in case your loved ones suddenly find themselves stuck with the job.

There is a reason that folks have long maintained that it’s a poor choice to make enemies with a man who keeps pigs.

I get it, even if I shake my head at it. When the well is about to run dry, people are going to show up with an extra bucket to get ready for hard times. Wonder who makes up the compensation committee that set all this in motion? But seriously, if anyone wants to just throw away money at something other than an ex-wife, forget the NRA and give it to me. I promise, I'll be as carefree with it as WLP and crew would be. The filing also shows perks for top officials that are typically associated with the corporate world, including charter and first-class travel with companions as well as dues for health or social clubs. Those costs were not detailed, though the filing says housing expenses were provided for five people. During that same period, NRA spending plunged 22 percent for education and training, 61 percent for hunter services and 51 percent for field services, which includes organizing volunteers, fundraising for shooting sports and promoting the NRA at gun shows and other events, according to a previously released audit. I'm actually kind of hoping all the accounting comes out to the public eye. I'd love to see what's being tracked in whatever expense system the NRA uses.

Received my latest masterpiece from GT and figured I should have a family photoshoot. He is definitely an artist with steel!

My duty had me spending a lot of time over several years on the butt of custom built bolt guns with high end glass. Most all were .308. I did have a personal rifle at the time which was a budget Remington "Sportsman" in .270. My buddy and I bedded the original stock and floated the barrel and this was my deer rifle. It really cranked our armorer when my budget Remington matched groups of our custom duty rifles. Eventually I no longer was on the bolt guns for work and sold my Remington. Recently I finally decided to pick up another bolt rifle. I really didn't need to spend a ton of money so after talking around I saw an ad on Armslist that was nearby a couple of weeks ago. I picked up a Ruger American .308 with a 3x9 for just under three bills and am very pleased with it. There is probably no more than a half inch or less difference in three round groups from the groups I had on my previous rifles. In my opinion only, unless you are doing some serious competitive shooting, a Ruger American, Savage, Mossberg, Howa, Remington 783 etc. are fine for hunting and pleasure shooting. Granted there are smoother, nicer finish, sexier rifles out there for more money if that is what you want, but these will certainly get the job done. But then I am also pretty fond of Taurus revolvers, product may settle during shipping.

Definitely nothing on par with an old S&W. I think it’s probably a “you need to see one for yourself” kinda situation. I actually saw one today at a LGS and it’s defiantly not glossy or bright, just a nice mid-range blue. If you were to slick one up with a silicon cloth while admiring it, I imagine the bluing looks closer to what it should.

They are the basic Ruger blue. Nothing fancy. BTW, I have the 5.5" SS .357. It's kinda shiney.

A little harsh?

Unless you do it the way Hickok45 does it. It really is that simple.

Wow. Im a little surprised at how many others are thinking similar thoughts. I really hesitated posting the OP because i felt like it sounded whiny, lol. Im not in a big hurry and may well wait to see how the political situation evolves before I sell. Thanks, guys, for the support and the advice. You guys are awesome.

We had pigs as a teenager. They would try to knock me over when I carried their food to the feeder. Dad did not believe me till he saw them try. After that we loaded the feeder from out side the fence, as well as not enter the pen alone, I hated them.

I need to do this. Mines getting to be a rather large family I’m afraid. Lol

Did anybody watch SWAT tonight? Near the end when our heros are closing in on the BGs, they see them coming. They show one of the bad guys dropping his Glock pistol into one of those conversion units that gives it a rear brace and forward grip. (I can't remember what they're called?) And then the BG goes on to shoot it full auto! Oh Boy, Hollywood has now discovered these things. I wonder how long it'll take for the antis to pick up on this?

Ran across an ad for this and checked out their website. Anyone have any experience with this company and their holsters? Looking at this one: https://urbancarryholsters.com/order-new-lock-leather-owb-holster.html

Yes...but she looks good doing it! Went away and then had to come back and comment on this again. lol Slightly off from the original intent here, but...do you notice how clean and classy she looks? Even while giving that little 50's sweet and sassy smile? What's happened to a big percentage of the female population these days? To me, they are beginning to look...well...sort of low class to almost "lady of the evening" styles. I see the classic beauty of the 40's and 50's and just wonder what the hell happened. Ok, yes. I am officially an old man with thoughts and values that are mostly outdated.

May all of us give thanks for all.

Happy Time of Giving Thanks to one and all!

Im gonna give it a go the next 4 days and see what happens.

Keep your eye out for a USFA. They do a very nice polished blue.

No, but I have learned that obeying the law greatly decreases problems like this.

Glad to hear there was no injury save a bit of furniture. Good on you for sharing. It really is a good illustration of how one can be cognizant of said rule, but how concentration or focus on a tangent can make you miss something obvious. Appreciate the confidence to share the story!

Ever read "Unintended Consequences"? The book pointed out that the best way to get rid of a body is to feed it to some pigs. Pigs are not only aggressive, they eat everything. Skin, bones hair, everything. At most they may find a few teeth in the poop. My Grandfather had pigs. He also had a bunch of kids and later grand kids. He made it a point to make sure we all knew to stay away from them.

No, it wasn't a murder investigation. His business partner was murdered but that has nothing to do with what happened here. ATF spokesman Richard Coes said the justification for the search was "that [Myers] was using explosives and getting paid for it via YouTube."[23][24] According to Myers, the case was originally tried on the state level but it was appealed to the federal courts due to the state's justification for searching his home was that "he was wearing shorts." The Federal courts prosecuted on the grounds that illegal drug possession while owning a firearm is a federal offense. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FPSRussia

A good reminder. It happened because you pulled the trigger, as many will point out. It can also happen without you pulling the trigger. Which they like to deny. We can’t be careful enough with a loaded firearm. I’m OCD about having an ND or a AD and have been handling guns for over 50 years. I still am concerned it could happen to me. I’ve had one AD, but the gun was pointed at a target when it happened.

I was really surprised about a week ago when I got the call. I thought they had sold out this years batch. But the lady told me that some people had changed their minds and they still have some. I picked it up last Friday and took it to the range yesterday. Its a 1942 Colt frame with an Ithaca slide. Finish is about 80% with some noticeable wear and scratches. The #1 is painted on the grips. However the bore is perfect. So while it has seen some serious use, its seems to have been well taken care of. While it is a mix master, I noticed that there are no arsenal rebuild marks on it. No, its not as pretty as some of the fresh arsenal rebuilds some folks got. But this gun has been there and done that for 77 years. Its got character. It shoots just like an average military issue 1911. Nothing to brag about, but I was able to keep most of my shots in the black on a 12'X12" target. I attribute that to the small sights and a really heavy trigger. By my gauge the trigger is 8 lbs 12 oz. Which is perfectly normal for a G.I. issue pistol. I've got a set of new springs ordered. I may work on that trigger a little while I have it apart. Haven't really decided yet as I may leave it just like Uncle Sam issued it. Yeah, I'm aware that some of you spoke poorly of the guns and the whole program. But I now own a piece of history. I like it!

nice pistol, personally I think the painted on "1" is a great touch.

Uncle hi power, is that you??!!?

This is a sobering topic but one we all need to face and consider at some point. I reached this conclusion a couple of years ago. While I didn't have a large "collection" as my guns were/are primarily for the defensive use category, I've begun thinning them out, along with accouterments like ammo and magazines. At 65, soon to be 66, my abilities, capabilities and priorities have changed. I simply can't do what once I was able LOL. I too have no family with an interest in what I have accumulated and I don't want to leave my wife with a pile of "stuff" that she has no idea what the heck it is, much less what it's value is. We, in this age range, have been blessed with some incredible experiences and exposure over the years. I am thankful for that. As Col.Cooper's book sates, "The past was another country, we did things different there". It was a great place to pass through.

Yes, those are some things I have considered. All but the neighbors. Flaming liberals all around me. I'm surprised how quickly our street went Dem/Bernie/Warren/Hilary. Just the result of all the new people moving in.

This discussion brings back memories of finding hickory nuts with my grandfather. God, how I miss him. Thank you all.

Be vewy vewy quiet. I'm hunting wabbits

You know, I think if I'm honest, and I believe others might have these thoughts; in the dark recesses of our collective minds, I think many of us have had that thought/delusion. In my younger days, I envisioned myself as the one others looked to for help and maybe protection. That comes from reading to many TEOTWAWKI books. Nowadays, in my fairy tale life, I've come to see myself as the old fart who has a stash that others find and use to save themselves. I see no way of surviving past the initial wave and exchange of fire. Too old in body, never was in good physical condition like the young warriors of today, and the legs and back are shot. Maybe the next year will offer better selling possibilities, and fewer pains.

I've liquidated most of my collection over the last 10 years. I still have way more firearms & ammo than I'll ever shoot. All I can say is how thankful & blessed I've been to have the fine firearms I've owned, some for a short time others long term. Getting older & its challenges can grate on some, it grates on me but again I'm blessed to have hunted, fished, & shot more than most, didn't miss much. Sad thing is how many collections I've bought & brokered from guys whose family wanted nothing to do with them, all they care about is $$.

I have an Octane 45 and love it. I use it on my HK45 tactical, and my 9mm machine gun. Even with supers, the 9mm is hearing safe mag dump after mag dump. Is it as quiet? Nope. does it do its job, yup. Would I buy a dedicated 9mm can? Probably not, but the 45 works on so much stuff. I even use it on my 357 SBR but only to shoot 38s. Fun little gun. Enjoy the 9 can, play with it, and you'll find something to make ya happy

My Dad is 73 and we had the will discussion last week. He's got a modest collection. There's a few I have little interest in, but most have high intrinsic value to me and I look forward to enjoying them with my boys. He's also considering selling his motorcycle due to his knees. Not riding it has ruined the fuel system so it's languishing in his garage at the moment.

Looks like a bunch of us are in the same situation. I've already started downsizing to just what I actually use or need. I sold my deer rifle, AR, crossbow, and one pistol. Have one more to sell, then I'm done. Gonna keep the PPS 9mm that I carry every day, plus a couple of heirlooms that I won't sell. I'll admit it bothers me quite a bit to have to do that, but, it is what it is, as they say.

I went on a bit of a spree a while back...surely no coincidence it's about when I found TGO. For the vast majority of the time, my guns that sit locked up with a light coat of oil on the action. I don't regret what I have, but I surely don't have a need for more unless I get into shooting as a primary source of recreation, and that's not likely. I have enough weapons and ammo for home defense, daily carry, civil breakdown, and more importantly, can be mobile with it all if needs be. Maybe one day if I get a new vehicle that can secure one, I'll get a good truck gun, or a .22LR pistol (the S&W one right now looks best) for fun and to let any kids I'm around get into shooting. But as I get close to my 40s, I think the capital otherwise spent on guns and every attachment you can throw on them is better deployed to investments for my old age or misfortune.

Sadly, I too am beginning to think like this. I would like to sell off a few, but not wanting to take the kind of hit that seems to be the norm right now. Foolishly, I've actually bought a few more this year, and now feeling some pangs of regret. Heck, I still have things I haven't fired yet. Some of those are NIB, some are used and just added to the pile. I guess my hopes for a quick sale are pretty slim at the moment. I find myself also considering selling the TGO knives I bought. I think I have 6 or 7 of them now. That was a bigger bad move than all the guns. lol But...I hope to go to G&L in H'ville in the morning for a little session. Just to relax.

Personally I’d like to see him promoted to member.

I'm sure it's a hard thing to come to this conclusion. I'm not there yet, but have seen a lot of the folks I look up to get there. (I'm thankful that so far my reassessment of my collection is mostly to do with focusing more on things I'll want my boys to able to appreciate.) To echo what @DaveTN said, if you can hold them for a year or a bit less you'll probably do much better in terms of how much debt you'll be able to take care of. Feel free to pick our brains if necessary when you're listing things, and thank you for thinking of us first!

Sorry you feel the need to reduce inventory. At 65 although I can still shoot anything fine, I’m facing having to sell my Harley. I can still ride, but I’m tired of listening to friends and family run their mouth about how I don’t ride it much anymore. Brother, not much is selling right now. Tupperware guns if the price is low enough is moving a little. If you can wait until the election next year, they will probably go up substantially. If a Democrat is elected, they will go up a bunch. Also, I think the feds are going to stop private sales. If that happens with warning; sales will skyrocket from the time it passes to when it goes into effect.

Trust me I do honestly feel your pain. I’ve hunted a place like that for many years before I found this place. Over the last 4 or 5 years I stopped fighting the “if I don’t shoot it the neighbors will” and started letting bucks walk that I never would have before. It was a small property but private. Bucks started growing and I was amazed at what a couple years did for them. It still has the same neighbors with the same methodology but I still let the bucks with potential walk and if they get them, I did my part to let them grow. Many (and I mean MANY) days I’d sit out there and not see hardly anything or zero deer. But it was a funnel and eventually bucks made their way in. The place I have now is a blessing and I don’t take one second of it for granted. First year hunting it and still learning travel patterns but I’m loving every learning minute I have and can’t wait to further my knowledge of how to pattern and track movement of the groups of deer.

These two bucks came out and ate 30 yards from me for 45 minutes on the last day of archery season. It tested my patience since they are nice bucks but not what we were after on this farm. The experience was rewarding just seeing them interact with each other. One bedded down for 10 minutes while the other continued eating haha They will be really nice bucks next year though.

My pops got this chocolate 9 point this morning.

Got my personal best this afternoon at 3:00. It was raining steady with 12-14mph winds so the rain was falling diagonal across the field. After passing countless bucks, I could not pass this one up. 4.5 yr old chocolate rack 9 pointer. I’m sure blessed today and so thankful. All the work this year was worth this two minute long encounter with this big feller.

Nice buck Slappy. I shot a cow horn spike opening muzzleloader season, needed some meat and he was the first available victim. I saw 4 this afternoon after the rain subsided and missed one. Oh well they call it hunting for a reason.

I have a PT111 which I believe is almost identical to the g2c. I had heard there were some issues with the plastic guide rod assembly. I replaced mine with a stainless steel on from Lakeline Industries. It runs like a champ. Below is their link if you're interested in one... https://lakelinellc.com/shop/stainless-recoil-assembly-for-taurus-pt111-g2-stainless-finish/