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The devil himself walked into that classroom, and he will put his hand on another soul to do it again. The next one will try to outdo the last one. Would a gun ban stop him? Absolutely not, but it might stop a lawfully armed citizen from stopping him.

Well, the brits have a counter-petition up.  I say we should compromise, and deport him halfway.

You don't have to lower yourself.... Buy the guy an NRA membership. That's a nice thing to do and who wouldn't appretiate it !?!?

Just made this on Paint program thinking about all the pompous remarks we hear about "needing" an assualt weapon, high cap mags etc.

They did mention that 2 million people will lose their unemployment benefits. Not sure what to make of that but my gut feeling is if they were looking for work, rather than just sitting around, it would help the economy. Remember these are the people who have been collecting for over a year now. And along with unemployment benefits they are likely receiving food stamps, housing subsidies as well as healthcare in some states. All those benefits cost the taxpayer as well as increase our national debt.  And it is those of us that work that are going to replay that debt.   If someone is so hard up for food I am sure their family or their church would be glad to help them. But there are some that think having a Playstation for Christmas is a necessity.  Or thinking it is a requirement that they have a 60” television to watch their HD cable on. If you are on governemnt assistance you should have enough to eat, clothe your bodies (an not with brand names), heat your home and not much else.   Dolomite

vote with your remote

Ms Frankenstein is living in a dream world, like all the rest of the gun grabbers. But don't ask her to give up her armed security.

Worth? That does not figure into the equation. You'll be offered a Starbucks gift card and be happy you got it.

  Highly insulting to gays.  Likely many of them don't want to be associated with him either.

not excused, rather, defended from an unconstitional law (even if he is a hippocrit).  Shows a measure of grace and compassion well above that of the "anti" lobby.  It would divide them and bring them down in flames on this point. Not to mention displaying the NRA's higher level of understanding on the relevant issues.

mosin might make a good deer rifle but its way overpowered for rabbits AND it will knock your shoulder black and blue pretty fast.  Its a heavy, powerful rifle from WWII era, and will certainly give you a workout if you DID haul it thru the woods for a deer.  They are great rifles at a great price and you probably might want one while they are still dirt cheap and still being imported.   That said, an inexpensive .22 is a better choice for a rabbit or sending many rounds downrange at a time for fun and practice.    So, if picking between the 2 --- mosin for picking off moose at 500 yards.  .22 for a rabit at 50 yards.  Mosin for a 20 round shooting day.  .22 for a 200 round shooting day.  

  They did nothing "unwittingly".  Permission was asked of and denied by DC police for their prop.  Gregory and NBC knowingly broke the laws of that jurisdiction.

The same thing happened exactly 4 years ago.  Granted, there is some extra paranoia now for the upcoming restrictions that will be passed, but manufacturers are still delivering.    I saw saw something today on the news that Brownell's alone sold 3.5 years worth of PMAG inventory in 3 DAYS. If one doesn't have what they want by now......they really haven't been paying attention.  Thus the full retard buying frenzy.

    If true then that really no joking should be more then a slap on the wrist.  One thing to make a mistake but to be told it is against the law and then do it anyways just reeks of (I am going to do what I want because I can.)

Many many years ago (don't ask for an exact number, haters) I had dreams of being a rock star. I bought a guitar, and learned a few chords. There were a handful of us back in them there woods, and well, everyone wanted to play guitar, and well, you can't have a band with five guitar players. So a buddy of mine decided he would play bass, and I bought a set of drums. This is pretty much how it went for a good handful of years. I played drums, and after a while I started playing bass as well (seems bass players are rare as hen's teeth.) After a handful of years had passed by, and one day I realized that while I enjoyed playing in a band, we really weren't going anywhere, and I was in a dead end town. I have told my story a time or two, and being in a band was not enough to keep me on that track, and to be honest, I don't think the two were mutually exclusive. I haven't touched a musical instrument in fifteen years or so. I have an old Epiphone Les Paul in my closet, and that is where it has set. A couple of years ago, my daughter wanted a guitar, so for Christmas we got her a little acoustic starter guitar. She plinked around on it for a while then dismissed it. Well a handful of months ago, she dug it out of the closet and it has gone everywhere with her. She made up her mind, she wants to be a rockstar. Last week, I came home, and she had stripped a tuning peg and broken the headstock, making repair nearly impossible. She was crushed. The end of the world. And the Mayans saw it coming. So in her fit, she somehow remembered Daddy had a guitar in the closet. And out it came. She fell in love with it, and made her mind up, she had to have an electric guitar, and it had to be red. The journey began. And it was filled with adventure. In the end, it resulted in a Squier Affinity HSS starter pack for almost a third of retail. That was pretty awesome. She rather enjoyed Christmas. And I have too. It grabbed a set of strings, and tuned up my old Les Paul, and started teaching my daughter the very limited things I remember from twenty years ago. I guess I am going to look into some lessons for her, I am thinking piano, and then grabbing more learning material for the guitfiddle for myself to learn, and her to translate. It has been a really good day.

Latest word on talk radio is that NBC asked the DC police if they would let them borrow or allow them to have a magazine for the show and they said no. Then he turned around and got one on air any way.     http://rt.com/usa/news/david-gregory-magazine-law-894/   So not only does the ban not work, being specifically told no by the police department doesn't work either. I would be really interested to hear on how his proposed ban would prevent criminals from having them, if "law abiding" people are ignoring legal information directly from the police, then rubbing it in their faces.

I don't care if LA implodes on itself. The only reasoni would hate to see this is it gives them ideas and designs on other places as well. If comiefornia wants to slit its wrist, I feel we are obliged to stand by while it bleeds out.

Get a mosin nagant. You will not be sorry. Sent from my DROID X2 using Tapatalk 2

Obama's plan to avoid the fiscal cliff.

My personal opinion is always to start without doing any work to the stock.  Who knows, it may shoot great without doing a thing.  Only after I shoot it "as is" would I consider doing anything else.  I would also check for barrel float before going as far as bedding.  Bedding for me is after I have tried a few easy things first.  It may come to having to bed it, but I don't think it's necessary to start there.   I am sure there are others who may say bed it from the start.

Bad primers happen. Doesn't mean you did anything wrong. Maybe you did, maybe you didn't. Well never know. Keep on trucking.

Maybe if PersonDJ or I don't hear back we can send our gifts to you.

you can probably also just find some sort of container that is about right, drill a hole in it, and use it to replace the cracked bowl.  Heck a large margarine tub with a hole in it would probably fit many round bowl tumblers and work just fine....   if you wanted a 10 cent fix.

Yes, good read and I agree with him but, there's just one problem!   He's preaching to the choir, and here's my thoughts.   To me, liberalism and the anti-gun crowd is much like a mental illness, the loss of the ability to reason and to think things through logically (critical thinking). Liberal symptoms include; quick emotional responses, shouting for the nanney state to do something now, jumping to conclusions before the facts, the inability to view a problem from more than one vantage point, trying the same thing over and over again and expecting different results, cowering and shirking their own responsibilities and finally, blame the inanimate object and not the cause.   Actual mental illness can be controlled by experimentation and adjustments of drugs in this day and age. How do you control a population that is striving for a socialist society? Reading or listening to the opposing side with an open mind either inflames them and they retort to name calling, or they dismiss it as ludicrous.   I haven't had much success in my life presenting the truth and actual facts to closed minds unwilling to accept reality, have you?   As always, the only hope I foresee is the use of force, the force of the polling place.

I would say the opposite.  If ownership = illegal, the price will skyrocket overnight.   I am of the opinion that forced buybacks would pay the owner the owner's price.  I think I could let one of mine go for about 1 trillion or so.

[quote name="BrasilNuts" post="868890" timestamp="1356529949"] You don't have to lower yourself.... Buy the guy an NRA membership. That's a nice thing to do and who wouldn't appretiate it !?!?[/quote] Good idea. Can you imagine the look on his face when the membership card came in the mail? Anyone want to start a collection?

I picked up a Shield this morning for $450 out the door. I said to myself last week that if I found another one I would just buy it, so I did. It was a .40, which is fine by me since I buy 9mm ammo but reload 40S&W. I have not shot it yet but after holding it and slipping it in my pocket, I think it's a little larger than what I thought it would be. If anyone in Chattanooga wants to shoot it PM me.

They went in a 400,000 order in 2006 to the army. Now they have another contract. They are USGI mags.

I won't lower myself to their level.  Taking the high road is always the better route.

700+ easily. Sent from my ADR6425LVW using Tapatalk 2

You know what? I have them. I paid for them. They are legal. They are mine. If a sorry politician attempts to change that, then screw them!

By illegally obtaining a 30-round magazine, which is a banned item in the District of Columbia, Gregory unwittingly proved that gun control does NOT work.   Oh noes!!!

Under the executive order, guns convicted of a crime would be melted down and turned into speculums and other probing devices for use by the TSA at airport security checkpoints.   So kel tec will re tool to produce a tsa approved assmaster 1000 ??? LOL

  You'll be undergunned against the roving hordes (your neighbors) after The Meltdown. ;) (only half jesting)   What makes you think that in the long term your "sniper rifles" won't be banned?  Maybe only double and single barreled shotguns with 6 birdshot or smaller only? Maybe possession of all handgun mags over 10 rounds banned. Maybe over 6 rounds, go back to revolver six gun standard.   Point being, reacting to something that's completely up in the air is a total crapshoot. The AR pricing may actually fall way back in just the next week or two, who knows, could be that there were actually a finite number of idiots willing to pay 4 times what they were worth two weeks ago and prices start falling tomorrow. Only thing sure is that top price on ARs over the last 8 years or so seems to be right now, this day.   - OS

Let's see if they can take it as well as they dish it out.  This blogger tracked down the publisher and outed her name, address, phone #s and credit card buying habits.   http://christopherfountain.wordpress.com/2012/12/24/sauce-for-the-goose/

[quote name="Clod Stomper" post="866645" timestamp="1356231203"] *How do you know if they are mature enough? Ask an objective, and honest, friend if they think your kids are mature. I have friends who think their kids are just great and mature enough to handle a gun. I have observed evidence to the contrary. So sometimes parents can be biased (obviously).[/quote] So true!! I have said this before. Never,ever truly judge your children's behavior with your own eyes. Always judge your child's behavior by what others say about your kids behind your back.

Now that is an EO I can deal with. :rock:

      I'd take the credit if it were mine.  It's making its way all over Gundom.   Of course, I'll get blamed if somebody does something "extreme" about it.  :wacko: :koolaid:

I'll continue to pay the $10 a day (though not much more) ... I'll just stay longer when I go. Good place to shoot. I'm able to, and always do, go on days in the middle of the week when it's less likely to be crowded.

The idea is to allow all the teachers to exercise their right to protect themselves, and in doing so eliminate that one big gun free zone that all these "misunderstood" statement makers all flock too. I think that arming at, tax payer expense, a few "chosen protectors" is only slightly better than it is now and isn't really dealing with the root cause behind schools being made targets for these "mistreated" people. By allowing the teachers to protect themselves they would in turn be protecting the students because the students and teachers would no longer be completely unarmed, and the man planning the attack would more than likely choose a softer target where he could inflict maximum damage before being stopped. And if, god forbid, they(the armed teachers) accidentally harm one of the students while trying to stop the maniac from shooting ALL of the students, I believe I can live with that, because until someone puts a bullet into those sickos, they will continue to harm innocent people.

All this is interesting.  The President of the NRA was on Face the Nation today.  Bob (the idiot) would ask him a question and before he could finish answering it Bob would start trying to talk over him.  He did it again and again.  I would have slapped that old man silly if I could.  I'm really getting tired of these liberal commentators who love interupting people and talking over them.  Some interesting facts were brought out in the conversation.  There was a previous ban on assault weapons and high capacity magazines.  When it expired the F.B.I. and other federal officials admitted it really hadn't changed anything so it wasn't reeinstated.  Bob Siefer said at the beginning of the show he had gotten a double barrel shotgun when he was 12.  I suppose that was to make us believe he is a gun expert.  Later in the show he made it quite obvious he doesn't understand the difference between automatic and semi-automatic where guns are concerned.  I have a friend who is the range officer for a small town in Tennessee.  He recently told me that it is their policy today to carry either a patrol rifle or shotgun in instances where it is believed there will be a confrontation.  The sidearm is simply viewed as a backup weapon.  When we are protecting our own homes from assault, why are we viewed as evil if we employ the same thought process?  How often does a police officer get in a shootout with 4 or 5 or more individuals at the same time?  Today some home breakins employ 4 or more individuals.  Bloomberg says he will dedicate much of his wealth to fight against gun ownership.  Will he also dismiss his bodyguards?  Will any of these big shots in government who say we don't need weapons dismiss their bodyguards?  Are our families well being less important than theirs?  Remember the shooter at Newtown purposely chose defenseless individuals to attack.  He was a coward.  When he heard help breaking into the school he shot himself.  People can't seem to understand that when a person decides to hurt other people he will.  If guns aren't available to him he can become a suicide bomber or use a molotov cocktail or many other makeshift weapons to kill.  Terrorists in Africa have attacked people with machetes and hacked people to death.  There was a school bombing in 1927 in Michigan which took more lives than were lost in Newtown.  One problem is all these Federal Privacy Laws.  When a person is found mentally ill his name isn't added to the state list of folks who shouldn't be able to buy weapons.  That would violate his rights.  What about the rights of the innocent.  It seems that in America today the honest law abiding citizen who works every day and pays taxes and helps keep all this going has no rights while the criminal has many rights.  They don't want a Bible in school while T-shirts promoting gay rights are O.K.  I guess I'm just too old.  I remember when things were different.  When folks respected their parents and other elders.  When folks tried to do the right thing simply because it was right.  The liberal news media hasn't helped things either.  It would be better when they talk about guns if they would use reporters who actually know something about guns.  How would you like to watch a football game where the live action comentators knew nothing about football?  Well that's the way I usually feel when these folks start talking about assault weapons.  Do any of you know of any country any where in the world today where the military uses semi-automatic weapons instead of select fire weapons?  I don't.

  The "crop dusters" in the crowd are the ones you have to watch out for. Like ninjas, they are! :ph34r:

As the title said let me know what you think. This is my Remington 597. The camo stock was faded and just didn't look good. Cheap gun so I said what the heck. I sanded the stock with 400 grit and then cleaned it with alcohol. I used the rustoleum brand camo paint and pine needles for the pattern. The pictures don't really accurately portray the colors but it is somewhere in the middle of the two. I couldn't get good light anywhere in the house. Oh and Zeke (my dog) says hi. He photo-bombed the one pic.

Personally, I want to keep all the freak-shows up front and in the open.

The hypocrisy of this thing reeks.  First amendment is just as important as the second, people.

You are not going to see or notice a difference in quality. With today's CNC and exacting tolerances the differences between these guns are just for cosmetic reasons. Both guns, RRA and Stag, are going to be built using forged parts of the same quality. I would not worry one bit about the trade, you are not getting hurt.   Dolomite

As a HCP instructor, I'd really like to see additional training requirements past the "standard" state HCP course. We ALL know it's not all that. They need to be trained in drawing from the holster, strong and weak side one handed shooting...etc. Something along the lines of Personal Protection Outside the Home. I don't have kids, I'm not a big fan of other peoples kids, but I'd sign up to patrol a school for free one day a week in a New York Minute

I got a set of xs sights. The XTS 45° sights an my ar15. Pricey but great sights.

Tell ya what, if you keep up with the pure face of the liberal progressive on MSNBC some, it will actually make you appreciate the relative neutrality of CNN.   - OS