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Instead of drug testing, how about we cut taxes, repeal onerous laws and regulations, eliminate various departments and/or agencies, enforce existing immigration laws etc...?  Basically, how about we just shrink the size of government and eliminate all the handouts?  If government wasn't involved, things would probably be cheap enough that non-freeloaders wouldn't need assistance in the first place.   We have some 40 plus million on food stamps alone.  It would get pretty expensive doing a monthly drug test on that number of people.  I don't want to pay for that, nor do I want to increase the size of government further, which is what implementing such a program would do.  Anyway, such a policy/law would never be passed at the federal level, but neither would my proposal.  Since I am debating two things that won't happen, I would rather have the one that eliminated all the handouts and shrank the government.

  I think it's an exception if you set it off with a non-922r compliant SIG brace equipped AK pistol fired from the shoulder that's 26" OAL with a vertical forward grip and a bootlace tied to the trigger guard.   - OS

They need to loose your right to vote all well. As a nonproductive member of this Nation, they only vote for who is willing to keep them in welfare and food stamps.

I thought you all might like to see this, the Knifes are being built as I write this, They should be at your doorsteps mid March, the all black blades that you see are the two tones before polishing

Shooters Grill in Rifle Colorado   http://youtu.be/AhH25xLkvz8

  Oldogy... I like this one... Recently, i've changed my approach on the hog ring and piercing thing... I used to smile and act like it wasn't there...Now, i take a close look at it like it's a problem and is hurtin the wearer; then i politely ask if they need it removed... I always tell 'em that i have my pliers in my fishing tackle box and that i'll be glad to get the hook out... Strangely, i've had no takers, but plenty of polite "no's"... Its great to watch the reaction...   leroy, "...hook removal jhadist..." and old time fisherman...

So what happens after they fail a drug test?   They lose all their benefits, right?   No food, no home, no medical, nothing.   What do they do then? Rob, steal, etc... Then they go to prison and we still wind up paying for them.       The problem is the institution and what it has become, three, four generations living on the dole and knowing all the ins and outs. If the system were overhauled to be beneficial, it would enable these folk to empower themselves and better themselves. As it is now, the system IS a career choice.

"WE NEED MORE LAWS!!!" --No One, Ever

This area is about as safe and safe gets. Stay out of the Antioch/Nolensville road (north of old hickory) it's rough Cool Springs/Franklin is where we spend 80-90 percent of our restaurant/shopping. Downtown/midtown offer some great food options that are not to be missed, but it can be a pain to get down there sometimes.

Didn't FL try this, passed the law but then the courts ruled it was an unconstitutional search?   I'm sorry, but if you want your government hand out, you need to piss in the cup.  Don't want to get drug tested, then don't take the money.   The real problem is that we have families that are 2 or 3 generations on welfare.  No one in the family has ever had a job, just lived off the government tit.  I say, in addition to drug tests, if you are not on disability, then limit the time you can draw welfare.  Max of a couple of years, regardless of the number of kids you pop out.  I have an aunt, that when she was younger told her family that she was going to have another kid just so she could stay on welfare longer.  Since her first had just turned 16, she had another, then another just to keep from working.   This same aunt would buy an item, like a curling iron, put her old one in the box and seal it back up then return it for a refund. 

    Debtor's prison?  Indentured servitude?      I'm only kinda serious.  I think welfare as a government service should be dissolved and given to private entities to manage... specifically churches. 

I too have a "pee in a cup" job. I wouldn't be opposed to drug testing and birth control for welfare recipients.

This whole "empty chamber carry" thing usually done by someone who is more afraid of the gun they carry than they are of the bad guys. And that is to some degree the fault of all the "you are more likely to be killed by a gun if you have one in the home " crowd. The average person (especially those in urban areas) knows little about guns other than what they see and hear on TV.  So people who know LITTLE about guns and even LESS about how fast REAL street crime happens decide they want to get a HCP but they are so afraid that the gun might "go off" they carry with an empty chamber.   My question is do they only load 5 rounds in their six shot double action  revolver so they have to pull the trigger TWICE to get it to go off? It is NOT logical. Ask any of the empty chamber carriers WHY they do it and the answer is EMOTIONAL....NOT logical. I've been working a full time job in the shooting industry for over 15 years and been teaching HCP classes the same amount of time and working as a travelling instructor, attending and presenting at some of the biggest conferences in the country for the last 8 years....and in ALL that time and travel I have yet to meet a SINGLE SERIOUS GUN CARRIER who carries with an empty chamber. And there is a reason for that. The people who KNOW how fast things can go from "hey man, do you have a cigarette" to "give up yo' wallet Mother F-er" know that empty chamber carry is stupid practice that can get you killed.   Now for those of you who say "well that is how we carried them in the army back in the day " ....maybe so...but that doesn't in ANY way mean that was the best practice...it just means the army doctrine for carrying a 1911 was "officially" to carry with an empty chamber for safety. I then ask those guys how much pistol training did you get AFTER you did BASIC? Any ? No? Unless you were in a VERY specialized unit, or were an MP you didn'ty carry loaded pistols in any kind of capacity on a regular basis....so people take that to mean that "if the army did it that way it was right". No...if the army did it, it was for a reason and that reason is RARELY because it is the best practice for FIGHTING. It is simply an effort  to keep UNTRAINED personnel from shooting themselves and others accidentally because they cannot grasp the concept of not using the trigger as a place to rest their finger .  Once those same people deployed to a combat zone the general practice was to say "to hell with the regulations" and carry it loaded and the safety on when outside the wire.....why? Because racking the slide took too long to bring the weapon into a usable condition.   In my "day job" I sell holsters and ammo and all manner of other accessories. I had an old guy (clearly in his 60s or 70s) call about a "defective" Galco Miami Classic shoulder holster for his "old military .45". He said it would not "fit". He said the thumb snap would not snap. I finally figured out WHY and asked him ...Sir, are you trying to holster that pistol with the hammer down or with it cocked? He said "What kind of idiot carries it cocked?" I asked if he had a round in the chamber and he again asked what kind of idiot carries that with a "bullet" in the chamber.....He informed me that he was a korean war vet and that "no one" carries a round in the chamber. I told him that Glaco designs their 1911 holsters to be carried with the hammer cocked, round chambered and safety on. THAT is why his gun would not fit.If the hammer was down the thumbsnap was not long enough to wrap around the hammer.... If he simply cocked the hammer it would fit..... He was dumbfounded because apparently since that is how the army did it (empty chamber) in 1950 that was the pinnacle of small arms TTPs....   Another pet peeve is the folks who simply parrot what other uninformed folks have told them about the Israelis carrying with an empty chamber and that they have some of the best counter terror folks in the world so if they do it then it must be OK.....well their CT units carry with loaded chambers...it is the " 2 year conscripts " that carry empty chamber and that started largely because in 1948 when Isreal became a country of their own for the first time since the late Old Testament times they had a hodge podge of foreign guns all with different features and different safety mechanisms. How to train people to use all this differnt stuff? Have them leave the safeties OFF and leave the chamber unloaded....that will work for EVERY TYPE of pistol no matter who made it or where and it is easier to have people do that than to invest the time into training them in good gunhandling practices......   So for all those carrying empty chamber....ask yourself this question.....how do guns go off? The trigger has to be pulled. So if we habituate ourselves to keeping our finger off the trigger until the muzzle is pointed at the target and we don't carelessly handle the pistol and when we are not handling it we have it in a holster that covers the trigger guard then it is nigh unto impossible for it to go off accidentally......AND it will work RIGHT NOW in an emergency situation when you pull it out without having to take the time to involve the other hand to make it functional. Carry how you want....but empty chamber carry is like emptying your car gas tank when you get where you are going so that the car doesn't catch on fire.....a ridiculous practice born of fear and emotion not education and logic.

Was doing a little charity dental work this weekend and I met a new friend. It turns out that she is also a "CLEO", so if anyone needs her to sign off on your Form 4 applications, let me know. I'm sure she probably knows the real "CLEO" in town :):) Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Saw this on Facebook and thought some of you that were closer could take advantage.

This was a partially finished blank I ordered before I started my file knife. The scales were my first attempt with G-10. It's tough stuff! Blade is 440c stainless. This stuff is FUN!

I think we can all agree that the wrong black guy on tv Sunday night got bit by a zombie.     Tyrees, Imma go let you finish dying but Beyonce had the best death by a zombie scene this year.

I was able to take the VP9 out today at lunch to Everything Weapons range in Franklin. From the very first magazine, one ragged hole after another, I couldn't be happier with gun!  It ran perfect, all it needs now is more mags, some trijicon h.d.'s and more ammo! I've been looking for a 9mm to start taking some classes with and I believe i've found it.

I can't tell the difference anymore.

Based on what you described you likely want to live southwest of town within 10 miles (east or west) of the I-65 corridor, likely south of 840. That will put you... 1. Close to Spring Hill 2. Close to Owl Hollow / CHMR outdoor range 3. Close to Strategic Edge in Chapel Hill 4. Close to Cool Springs for shopping, dining 5. Quick access to SR-840 to hit Rutherford Co if needed Basically somewhere in this area: Or you might try Fairview which is still reasonably close to Spring Hill thanks to SR-840, but further away from all of the other things I listed.

Tell your Marine thank you and stay safe from a old Army guy

The second half of the season got off with a big suck.

Some guy will really appreciate all their hard work. My forecast? Some man who was just like any other man, now finds himself with a deathly ill wife and two two starving children in a post apocalyptic hell on earth. He happens upon this group of wonderfully stocked and prepared dipsheets and armed with a simple little revolver and his his freshly seared conscience, he slaughters this entire family. Mops up the blood, drags their retarded carcasses off to the woods about a 1/4 mile down and moves his sick and starving family right on in. Now, that might be a bit of silly fiction BUT, these people are beyond deluded. They have obviously never considered a REAL man's resolve when his family is on the brink of death because a real man that loves his family will strike the match that sets his soul to burn in exchange for their well being. Never underestimate a man that loves his family. He might be the best friend you've ever had but he stab you in the throat while you sleep before his family starves and dies.

God that is sexy.  :tough:

Nobody wants to see me shoot. It's so bad I can't even get anyone to video it

I think anyone who gets welfare or any kind of government hand out needs to be drug tested monthly and put on some kind of medical castrashion I'm sick and tired of paying everyone else's way Rant over

Walmart doesn't tell the Pastor how or what to preach. The Pastor shouldn't be telling Walmart how to run their business.

  That's fantastic!   For those unfamiliar, this is a number 6. Language is NSFW.   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EM-lxsxeXBI

  I'm pretty sure you are the only one on here that likes him. :) Rest of us think he's a Muslim sympathizer, and a real shitty president.

First let me state that I know this is a little short notice, but the instructor had a last minute change of plans and has this weekend free.  I have been pestering William to come to Knoxville for awhile now, and it just so happens it will be on short notice.   Date: February 28, 2015   Time: 9:00 AM to 5:00 PM   Instructor: William T. April   Subject: Concepts and Techniques for the Gravest Extreme   Price : $150 pay at class (cash or check).    Location: Knoxville, TN (once signed up address will be given)   Some of you may know William April, or may have heard him on Ballistic Radio.  But if not here is a quick bio on William:       Course components include intensive, interactive lecture on:   Fatal Choices: Understanding VCAs and How They Identify Victims: In this fast-moving and interactive lecture participants will be led through contemporary theories and current, curated data on the process by which violent criminals select their targets for violent aggression. Particular attention will be paid to the internal mechanisms in play within the criminal psychology, the universe of signifiers around "good guy" behavior, demeanor, and attributes which may actually make selection for attack more likely, as well as considerations for responsible armed citizens to mitigate this risk. Previous iterations of this material have been presented to LE agencies and private citizen groups across the US as well as international LE educational events.     The 5 W’s of Risk: Constructing an Effective Pre-Need Defense Paradigm: Techniques, tactics, and procedures for the active, emergent context of violent assault are as common a topic as the weather, it seems. Abundant material on the aftermath of this sort of event is also available. However the preparatory period, what Craig Douglas has referred to as the pre-kinetic phase, prior to such encounters is given limited, if any, attention by the vast majority of erstwhile defenders. This presentation will review common mental and philosophical errors made by practitioners as they undertake preparation for effective defense against violent aggression. Practical pitfalls and limitations in thinking about lawful violence will also be reviewed in depth. Attendees will be exposed to a practical, programmatic method for undertaking the pre-need decision-making toward a sound self-defense and survival mindset, touching on all areas of the process which the defensively aware must address to maximize capacity for self-protection.     Open-Source Retention/Disarming: A hands-on block of instruction in the art and science of maintaining positive control of your own defensive handgun and of taking one away from an assailant when necessary. No prior experience or training in defensive tactics is required, no special physical gifts are necessary and the material is presented in a from-the-ground-up approach to allow conceptual understanding and physical grasp of an intuitive, robust skill-set in a relatively short time. Please bring an inert training version of your carry pistol, if possible (red gun, blue gun, SIRT, etc.) so that carry gear may be used if applicable.   http://www.mdtstraining.com/william-aprill/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkWhLHaQ7uU     If you would like further information or would like to sign up please PM me and I will answer your questions or put you on the list.  

I can't remember if I already posted this but some of you may know that the Nelson conversion has done well in bullseye competition this year and apparently had more than a good showing at Camp Perry. This is the conversion that Bob Marvel, formerly of Marvel Precision (he left in 2003), has been working on for some years. This was also marketed by Nighthawk for a awhile. Larry Nelson is and has been a close associate of Bob Marvel's. Anyway, Larry Nelson and his son decided to market this conversion. Barrels are Shilen and machining is done by McMillan. From what I have seen on targettalk and rimfirecentral is that the Nelson conversion and his customer service are first tier. Mine should be arriving by Fedex in the next couple of days. I'm getting the threaded barrel conversion with small fiber optic front sight and adjustable rear. I may get a rail later for a red dot. http://www.nelsoncustomguns.com/store/index.php?l=product_detail&p=29 Got my Nelson Conversion today, 2-13-2015. With slide and empty mag this weighs 38.5oz. [/URL]

   There is a USPSA match this Saturday and Sunday at NTPS ( Dickson , TN). You need to come and check it out. 

  Just watched the first two episodes On-Demand.  I really like it.  Its like feeding my Breaking Bad addiction.  different story but stylistically its the same.  It gives you enough satisfaction per episode but leaves you wanting to watch the next.  This could be a great series

I'd look at Wilson county, Mt. Juliet or Lebanon. It fits all your criteria pretty well. Prices are still pretty good and there's a good variety of homes. 

Nice! I have been  looking for a 1894 in 44 Mag like that one for  quite a while. Maybe one day.   One of these days I will do another family pic of mine.

    SEXY??? PEED A LITTLE??? You guys need help. A lot of help. Really. Now pardon me...I need to go...uh...well, just go.

  That's not out of line. I think I usually reckon on an average of 42 minutes.

That's exactly what I want!  I want something super basic, GI looking, no bells or whistles, but if I want to I can mod it up a little.  I'm in talks about something.  As soon as I get something I'll post it here!

I thought this thread was on someone getting sick.  In my area at the moment, the stomach bug is in full swing.  So hacking up a shotgun to me is like hacking up everything including the kitchen sink.  Oh, well ignore me and my post!  :rock:

"The statute does contain specific defenses for military or law-enforcement use, for use related to a lawful industrial or commercial enterprise, for dramatic performances and scientific research, and for display at museums." I believe the key words in this paragraph are "scientific research." That's what I do when I go to the shooting range, scientific research! :) Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

bha churches should stick to doing Gods work, and if they don't like Wal-marts policy they have the option of selling there shares. 

They said some wear on a couple. Yeah like they were drug behind a car.

Unsourced financial rumors that lead into a chat about religious prophecies and President Obama.   Just a normal Monday here at tngunowners.com.

If it was a nuke, trust me, CTBTO would be instantly screaming.  They even heard the meteor explosions (and correctly identified them) over Russia last year. A nuke has a very distinctive acoustic and electromagnetic signature.

There are pits that allow u to shoot rifle short distance.. The pit with steel targets is off limits to rifles. I'm a owl hollow member as well, good guys there as well,always willing to help out and make the experience enjoyable!

It's the way it should be.  The public and law enforcement shouldn't have any distinctions on what type of weapons they can carry and where.

You'll most likely get by with the 3 die set, but I gotta say the FCD is great. No chance of a round that won't chamber. For me, it's worth the extra step.

It is my understanding that No-Knocks must be stipulated as such in the warrant. It is my impression from the reading I have done on the subject that the primary reason for a No-Knock is to prevent the destruction of evidence. That is not a sufficient reason to introduce the high levels of violence and danger that are part of a dynamic entry. I hold firm to my position that the ONLY justifiable reason for a dynamic entry are when there is an imminent threat to innocent life. Any other reason is just an excuse to play action guy or justify the existence of the SWAT team. 

Whoever approved the no knock raid and also the warrant should be held accountable.