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Thought I'd put in a few updated pictures of my gremlins. Lola is 7 months old now (Husky mix) and Ace is just shy of a year (lab) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

The video, although sad and disturbing, is no more graphic than a PG13 movie. A few muzzle flashes seen on a shaky video followed by a victim running before the camera image goes away. You do not see anyone dead, blood or any other type of gore.   I say this to encourage people to watch the video that haven't. This is a very, very rare look at an attack especially from the shooter's perspective.   What is truly disturbing is the fact that the typical group of race baiters are silent on this one. I bet we will see the murderer get exalted by those race baiters as they encourage others to do the same.

  A 9mm won't even hurt your nuts. A .45 will blow them plumb off

Pete,  if you truly are interested in WWII history seek out a German K98.  Mausers, of all varieties, were used by more countries in more configurations than any other bolt-action rifle in history. However, only an original German in 8mm will satisfy what i think you want.   Be wary of Russian captures...they often have the Waffenamts (Nazi Eagle mark) peened to obscure the swastika but the history is still there.  Maybe even more history depending on how you look at it.

Wait just a minute, you've crossed a line there bu.... wait, never mind, it's Bojangles that has the sweet potato pies made in heaven. Sorry, I got confused. YEAH, BURN IT TO THE GROUND!!!! They already are.

I like my NIB BCG, It just about wipes clean after shooting. I would check Palmetto state they have some really good deals going on right now.

Cant stop listening to Pink Floyd as of late. or Genesis for that matter

My Bersa has been a great gun but I know others who haven't had the same luck. For $235 I think it's worth a shot.

An old prospector shuffled into town leading a tired old mule.  The old man headed straight for the only saloon to clear his parched throat. He walked up and tied his old mule to the hitch rail.  As he stood there, brushing some of the dust from his face and clothes, a young gunslinger stepped out of the saloon with a gun in one hand and a bottle of whiskey in the other. The young gunslinger looked at the old man and laughed, saying, “Hey old man, have you ever danced?” The old man looked up at the gunslinger and said, “No, I never did dance.  Never really wanted to.” A crowd had gathered as the gunslinger grinned and said, “Well, you old fool, you’re gonna dance now,” and started shooting at the old man’s feet. The old prospector — not wanting to get a toe blown off — started hopping around like a flea on a hot skillet.  Everybody was laughing, fit to be tied. When his last bullet had been fired, the young gunslinger, still laughing, holstered his gun and turned around to go back into the saloon. The old man turned to his pack mule, pulled out a double-barreled shotgun, and cocked both hammers. The loud clicks carried clearly through the desert air.  The crowd stopped laughing immediately. The young gunslinger heard the sounds too, and he turned around very slowly.  The silence was almost deafening. The crowd watched as the young gunman stared at the old timer and the large gaping holes of those twin barrels. The barrels of the shotgun never wavered in the old man’s hands, as he quietly said, “Son, have you ever kissed a mule’s ass?” The gunslinger swallowed hard and said, “No sir. But — I’ve always wanted to.” There are a few lessons for us all here: 1 – Never be arrogant. 2 – Don’t waste ammunition. 3 – Whiskey makes you think you’re smarter than you are. 4 – Always, always make sure you know who has the power. 5 – Don’t mess with old men; they didn’t get old by being stupid.

Just another good reason not to go to NY.    Not that it's right what happened to her but she should have known better than trying to board a plane in NY with a gun (even in 1985).

Almost 3 months old. All my brother's, ahh, cats in one bed. :) His girlfriend had just woken up. Heh, heh...she would be PISSED if she knew I had posted this pic. ;)

Today I overhead my boss and his boss discussion firearms mainly because of the reporters being shot. I finally decided to interject and discuss things with them.   I ended up fully explaining 4473's, FFL's, HCP's locally and nationally, registration, private sales "loopholes", , TN carry laws, etc. It was a quite lengthy conversation but I could tell they were interested.   Generally speaking, I would say that they are both "not gun-people" and not "pro gun-people" but mainly just accept whatever rhetoric that the news passes on to them. Personally I feel that they both are likely at minimum pro restriction/background checks/waiting period type people, and would likely jump on board with any "scary guns are evil" rhetoric as well.   I hope I did more good than harm, but I feel everyone should be educated instead of misinformed. That being said, sometimes someone misinformed but inactive is better for us than someone who knows the truth and decides to become active because they disagree with current firearm laws. So it was a tossup but I thought they both deserved to be informed so they can make their choice rather than a forced choice given to them by the skewed news (such as the "unregistered firearm" term used by the media).    I respect both of them greatly but do wish they were more onboard with some of the firearm stuff.    I guess I am posting this here because I'd like positive suggestions on maybe anything I could briefly followup on in terms of maybe a printout or any ideas that would be a positive "fight". I hope to be able to thank them for allowing me to converse with them regarding the issues and to feel free to ask any questions they may ever have.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/how-a-gun-in-a-purse-became-a-permanent-ball-and-chain/ar-BBmaXUg       At 27, Adele Langkil, mother of a 4-year-old son in Virginia, got her first extended break from her jobs as a single parent and waitress when her parents took the boy for a weekend. She spent a few days in New York. Refreshed, returning home to Virginia Beach, she checked her bag at La Guardia Airport. It was 1985 and airline screening was not as rigorous as it is today, but the authorities noted that there was a handgun in the luggage. “I was working as a waitress at night,” Ms. Langkil recalled Thursday. “A couple of people followed the girls home. I got a little gun. You didn’t have to have a permit in Virginia if it wasn’t concealed.”   For carriage of the gun, she was delivered to Rikers Island and charged with attempted criminal possession of a weapon and eventually posted a bail bond of $10,000. Appearing in court in Queens, she was told by a judge, she said, “‘This ain’t Texas; we don’t carry guns here.’” A lawyer advised her that she faced one to five years in prison if she went to trial, but that the Queens district attorney’s office would allow her to plead guilty and get a year on probation. For a mother with a small child, it was hardly a choice. Now 57 and a grandmother of two, Ms. Langkil to this day has been unable to outrun that arrest three decades ago. She attended community college, was a member of the honors society and has worked her entire life. She is a notary public who is able to certify legal documents in the commonwealth of Virginia, and is permitted to carry firearms. What she cannot do is fail to disclose her felony conviction. “I do clerical work and can’t advance, even when I’m qualified because of it,” she said. Hired by one shipping firm for its accounting department, she was told a few days later that the job offer had been rescinded after a background check uncovered her conviction. The Norfolk, Va., school system was recently prepared to hire her for its collections department, she said. At a final-round interview, she explained to the superintendent that she had been convicted but had successfully petitioned for the restoration of her civil rights under Virginia law. “He asked, ‘Did that mean you got a pardon?’ ” Ms. Langkil said. “I told him, ‘No sir, it did not.’ He said, ‘We can’t hire you.’ ” A granddaughter was going on a field trip with her class and the school was looking for chaperones. “The form asked if I was a convicted felon,” Ms. Langkil said. To keep from embarrassing her granddaughter, she pulled out. Virginia has a program of “simple pardons” that grants official forgiveness for past crimes to people who have finished their terms and proven themselves in various ways to be worthy citizens. Two Virginia governors were sympathetic to her, but said they could not help: They were unable to pardon her for a crime committed in another state. New York State offered her a “certificate of relief of disabilities,” which essentially restored her civil rights in New York State but says in bold type at the top, “This certificate shall NOT be deemed nor construed to be a pardon.” She has applied to three governors of New York for a pardon. Mercy is a risky proposition for politicians at every level. “Pardons are extraordinarily rare in New York State,” Donald D. Fries, director of the New York executive clemency bureau, wrote to Ms. Langkil in May, adding that they were considered “only when there is overwhelming and convincing proof of innocence.” That’s not law; that is policy, and it conveniently shields governors from having to consider exercising their absolute authority to grant pardons, which erase a conviction, or clemency, which can lessen punishment. For decades, prison and criminal convictions were national drugs that, it is now widely accepted, have been grotesquely overused. A number of federal judges are trying to untangle the knots that bind people for years after they got in trouble. In 1985, when Ms. Langkil was convicted, 32,000 other people were arrested in Queens. Over the next 30 years, at least 1.1 million people were arrested just in that one borough of the city. For a governor to fix one person’s needless problem by granting Ms. Langkil a pardon might, of course, mean that millions of others in the state could raise equally worthy claims. To ignore her and the others, though, is to let the dead hand of history continue to warp the daily lives of decent people.

Guys,   I would appreciate some input.   I've always been interested in the Eastern front from WWII.  I have a great Mosin.   The K98 Mauser is the other gun I want.  Sadly, getting a K98 isn't as straight forward as a Mosin.   So, here is what I want:   My budget doesn't allow for a collector grade gun - prefer sub $400, definitely sub $500. A German model with matching numbers that is beat up, but still shoots reasonably accurately would be my first choice. I don't want a Mitchell's Mauser. A turn in from a GI that brought one home would be great. A Russian capture that hasn't been screwed up would be great A gun that isn't german, but is very close to the K98 would be ok   I think you'll get the idea by now.  It would be great to have a gun with historical relevance, though the budget may not allow that.   Empire Arms has one with the following description:   'GERMAN Model 98k Mauser bolt-action rifle # 1180m (8x57) mfg. by Mauser (code S/42G) in 1935. A Russian capture with no matching numbers in Very Good condition with 80% or better reblued metal but surfaces exhibit pinprick light pitting. Bore is rough but strong and shootable. All-milled parts, missing cleaning rod (we sell nice reproduction rods for $12.00)  and has leather (Yugo) sling with buckle. Buttstock is solid walnut with sanded area on left side but has clear eagle cartouche on right side.  PHOTO . . . $450. '   Not knowing the market, that seems a little pricey.  I definitely want a gun that is reasonably accurate with iron sights. what the heck does "Bore is rough but strong and shootable" mean?   I found at least one reference to Empire Arms, saying that the guy is expensive, but what he advertises is what you get.   Any input of what comes closest to matching my wants considering my budget would be awesome.

Not mine but my sister had this passed down from my Pappaw. He passed away in 2001, rest his soul. I've not seen this until tonight because she told me she got one of his .22 rifles. But I had no idea what it was. She brought it over tonight so I could check it out and man was I surprised! The stock has a crack in it and is loose, and it needs a good cleaning, but it works and the little scope is still pretty clear considering the age. Well, I hope y'all enjoy the pictures as much as I did messing with it tonight.

This is a tempest in a tea pot... Everybody knows Kerry and Obama are tyrant wannabees... It's nothin more than red meat for the children... The UN aint gonna take anyones guns and international treaties do not trump the Constitution....   leroy

There won't be another in M'boro until December 19-20. I guess I better go, who's gonna twist my arm for me?

Our new fur baby....Duchess Hilde von Wolfsburg.....she is a whole 6 weeks old! She's a Black and Silver German Shepard. http:// http:// http://

They come with the rail as an accessory, out of the box it has sights mounted on it.  And yes it is pretty dumb to have the charging and re-cocking mechanisms near the barrel.  The whole thing is a mess, that's why I got it.  :rock:

  anyone can make a lemon.  My 238 was broken out of the box.  I got it fixed.  I shot it hundreds of times.  It stayed fixed.  I trusted it after testing it thoroughly.  Your choices are your own... we sold a S&W at a loss after a repair when it cracked (revolver) ... didn't trust it.  When you get that "cant trust it" vibe, you sell it and move on, it happens.

  This.  My 1909 is absolutely the best made bolt gun I own.  Unfortunately most that are inexpensive are ruined.  It would take a very large infusion of cash from a  good buddy to talk me out of mine.  Its an amazing piece.   Its all matched, was in its original and estimated unfired condition until it turned 100, I decided to shoot it for its birth-year... even has a matched numbered bayo and muzzle cap etc.   I shoot it a couple of times a year now, and its always a treat.      You have to make a decision.   If you can't afford an all matched collector, find a good shooter.  Mismatched guns are not trash... it means they were taken down and rebuilt by someone with intent to USE them ... they tossed the bad parts and consolidated them into working, quality weapons.  Many of them were used after being rebuilt .. they have a history.   The best thing you can do is educate yourself (which you are doing, but I mean in depth here) so you can go to a gun show or auction/estate/etc and pick off something that has been overlooked.  Learn what to look for in a shooter (barrel in good condition) and what you can do to a shooter (recrown and counter-bore, barrel replace, etc).  Learn what to look for in a fake (less of an issue with cheaper offerings).   Learn about what makes one worth owning, and what its value should be.    Try gunboards.com ... the people there know a ton about these guns.  Once you know what to look for, you can spot some good deals at shows and such... but you generally don't have time to make the decision before another person does the same, so you gotta know the answer on a gun cold when you go looking...  tons of people will be doing the same thing, scouting for the gem in the pile.   Also consider the ammo angle.   I make my own -- there just isn't much for the 1909 that isn't expensive -- the 8mm is a little more friendly but even so you could pay a little more on the gun if you made your own ammo cheaply. 

It is a dream at the range.  It might be a tough sell to someone who's hands look like a bunch of bananas but if you can hold it comfortably, it feels great, very low felt recoil.   And the 938 is only marginally bigger.  Might not quite do ankle carry, but I dunno... its fractions of an inch larger for the exact same thing in 9mm.  The 9, however, has a moderate recoil and is not fun for box after box.  50 rounds in that 9 and I am about done for the day.  The 380 I could shoot 500 without any pain.

You may have heard on the news about a Southern California man who was put under 72-hour psychiatric observation. You see they found he owned 100 guns and had 100,000 rounds of ammunition stored in his home. The house also featured a secret escape tunnel. So, by Southern California standards, someone owning 100,000 rounds is considered "mentally unstable." In Michigan, he'd be called "The last white guy still living in Detroit." In Arizona, he'd be called "an avid gun collector." In Arkansas, he'd be called "a novice gun collector." In Utah, he'd be called "moderately well prepared," but they'd probably reserve judgment until they made sure that he had a corresponding quantity of stored food." In Kansas, he'd be "A guy down the road you would want to have for a friend." In Montana, he'd be called "The neighborhood 'Go-To' guy." In Idaho, he'd be called "a likely gubernatorial candidate." In Georgia, he'd be called "an eligible bachelor." In North Carolina, Virginia, W.Va., Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Missouri, Wisconsin, Tennessee, Kentucky, Florida and South Carolina he would be called "a deer hunting buddy." And here in Texas; he'd just be "Bubba, who's a little short on ammo."

I'm in.  I will be out of the country and the time zone is 7 hours ahead so I will just have to let mine autodraft.  That's no problem for me.  It will probably do better than I would anyway.

I do and AFAIK Hendersonville does as well if you can't find anyone closer.

Last year I got to build a gun I had been hankering after for a long time. The idea was basically to hook up a mid-length upper with the government contour .750" barrel with an A2 lower to arrive at what I called a "short rifle" instead of a carbine of the classic order. Since it really wasn't a true A3, being a bit shorter, I called it an "A2.5" just for grins. I wrote about it here at http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/topic/87560-the-a25/. But to refresh everybody's memory, here are a couple of photos of that little peach of a rifle. And here's how she shot at 100 yards off the bench with irons and some Outback 69 grain target hollow points. Well, after shooting it quite a bit and realizing what a sweet handling, accurate rifle it is, sonofagun if I didn't start hurting to do it all over again, except this time I wanted to set it up with an ultra light or "pencil barrel." Mmmmmmboy was that gonna stretch my SDI (Sudden Divorce Index), but I thought it still had a little stretch left in it so I got up my nerve and put the new gun together last month. Here's a photo of the two rifles together, showing the earlier heavy barrel gun on the bottom and the new pencil barrel gun on top. When I built the first one, parts availability was a little sporadic, so I used a Spikes assembled upper, Spikes stripped lower, Armalite LPK, Geissele SSA trigger, BCM charging handle, and RRA rear sight and buttstock assembly. But on the new one parts availability was a lot better so it is all Palmetto State Armory except for the an Anderson stripped lower, Geissele SSA trigger, BCM charging handle, and RRA rear sight. I used Palmetto's premium parts and assemblies throughout the gun, and they were nice enough to throw in a $40 upgraded NiB bolt carrier group without charging me for it. Shhhhhhhhhhhh. Oh yeah, I used the MagPul pistol grip on both rifles. Here are some photos of the gun and some of its features: First, here are three photos showing the difference between a .750" diameter government contour barrel and the .650" pencil barrel Here's the Nib bolt carrier group in the new rifle. Another subtle difference between the two rifles is the safety selector markings on the two lower receivers. The right side of the Anderson receiver is completely blank while the Spike's lower has bullet buttons on the right side. Here is my favorite of all favorite iron sights, the RRA Stand Alone Rear Sight. The allen wrench is in the butt trap. Well, I got the new rifle built and have had time to do a small amount of shooting with it. Boy if I thought the earlier gun handled like a dream, the new one with the pencil barrel swings even better than that. I haven't had time to bench rest it with target ammo, but I zeroed it at 25 yards with XM193 55 grain loads and immediately started banging the 240 yard steel plate dingers up at the club, a few offhand even, so I have no doubt that this little rifle will be a good, accurate rifle.The pencil barrel, as you might expect, heats up faster than the heavier barrel, but I use these guns mainly for target work and I have time to let them cool off, so barrel heat really isn't a big factor with me. So if you want a rifle that will tickle yer heart, try one of these next time you get a hankerin' to build another AR. You'll love it. EssOne

I was going to post my thoughts but CommsNBombs got here first. I can not agree with you more. I did see on Fox News that he purchased the firearm legally like that mattered the media sucks they (report) what they want to how they want to

She told me that if I picked anyone up that I had better hope that it's a dude.

Well, I don't know about "seasoned and experienced" eyes... mine just suck and I'm 32. But I really like the Steyrs. I have shot a few but don't have one of my own (yet.) Great pointing and comfy gun, and I liked the triangle sights, but I don't know if they're really "better" or not than traditional 3 dots.

I suffer from same kind of eyesight  and my buddy has quit asking me to go to the range with him but I am hoping all that changes in September. I am going to have a cataract Evaluation and see about having my cataracts removed. My eye doctor says he doesn't think I will even need glasses after the removal of them. I miss going to the range and looking very forward to the surgery now....... :up:  :up: 

OK here is the text of the interview I was talking about. It's on Fox News Insider and the part I'm referring to appears in the paragraphs just above the shooter's photo.  I firmly believe the drive-by liberal media outlets will ignore the story.   http://insider.foxnews.com/2015/08/28/air-shooting-survivor-vicki-gardner-dodged-bullets-during-wdbj7-attack

Nothing like the gov't rolling out a $100 million project that took an uneducated, dirt worshipping caveman a month to figure out a way to destroy it with 40 lbs of HME. Even with the UIK upgrade and the rpg net those things are death traps. If I had the choice of a HMMWV for a farm truck or whatever you would use it for for civilian purposes I'd save the $$$ and put a turret on a Polaris or an old Jeep. Especially an old GI one... Buying a vehicle assigned to an 19 year old PVT for 10 years is like buying a rent-a-car or marrying a hooker. Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk

The Maxxpros are by far the best. Our RG31 took a gnarly blast so I won't completely discredit it but they drive like a bus. That Maxxpro is like rolling around in an Escalade. All the bells and whistles. Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk

Excellent. Saved for posterity.

  If Toby doesn't stop acting strange...maybe you'll reconsider and take his spot?

The rights expressed in the Constitution are human rights that are possessed by all people; we just happen to live in a country that chose to express that in a very concrete way by making it the foundation of our government.  It's interesting to see people who claim to believe in the right of people to own firearms for self-protection so quick to deny that right to certain people in our society.

We will miss you Joe. It's always fun to shoot with you. Good luck at the World Shoot if I don't see you before then. You are a great ambassador for our sport. Show them what we got in Middle Tennessee.

  Berated? Never; I've met more than one gun shop owner who would gladly show you their pocket carry gun and it was a KELTEC 32 caliber.... Whatever works for you is what works best! 

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  Or perhaps a life ender just sayin....   Anytime I've purchased a gun that happened to have a mag disconnect it was disconnected... Look at almost all auto's and most all do not have this feature....

  Americans have bought into a lie that we can live free and totally safe. Freedom isn't safe, but living under a totalitarian isn't either. There is no way to actually live totally safe. There is always something out there that is unsafe (other people, weather, poor engineering, sickness, etc.) Our problem is that people want no risk and total freedom. Ain't gonna happen.

Here is turkey harvest data.  You can search on years, county, WMA, etc.   It will give you a place to start.   http://twrawildlife.com/Harvest_Report_Turkey.aspx

To each his own, I dig them, here is mine

it's alright 'till you get some azzhole in the group like Caster..........oh wait.  

Basic education is the key.  We sometimes take our love and knowledge of firearms, the laws regarding them, and everything else for granted.     My ex is pretty conservative on most issues.  She's solidly anti-illegal immigrant, and believes that "if she has to take a drug test to earn the money at her federal job that gets taxed for welfare, that welfare recipients should have to take a drug test to receive it."  But when it came to guns, she knew next to nothing, because she never grew up around guns.  She just assumed that my AR's were "registered" as a requirement for purchase and that led to a conversation where I had to explain to her the same things you did.   It comes down to the conversation with the public.  Scaring people is easier than setting their mind at ease, and the anti-gun side is very, very good at getting their argument to people, and we're not because we see it as an individual conversation, and something passed down within the family, not a mass communications campaign like they do.    As far as what we can do, taking someone shooting to let them see how guns really are is a start, and so is what you did, just explaining and correcting misconceptions.  At some point, there needs to be a much better job at putting out information, which the NRA would seem to be the most logical choice for, but they appear to be more about preaching to the choir and the political side.  A massive outreach effort could do wonders, especially with social media helping spread the message.

it doesn't matter if your are here illegally,    Being able to defend yourself is a right you are born with.  Man may attempt to take that right from you but you still have it.  And a gun is the best method of self defense. Absolutely everyone in the world has the right to defend themselves, gun included. Man has restricted that right.     You may end up in jail for having it but you do have the right to have a gun.

Either you support the 2nd Amendment for all or you don't support the 2nd Amendment.  We yell and scream that they are taking our God Given Rights away when they pass gun laws yet now we want to put qualifiers on them?  If your position is that these are rights we are born with, then why does it not apply to other human beings?

The truth is non existent these days! I too have read many conflicting accounts with the biggest being the AR never left the trunk. That was stated by one of the first Leo's on scene. Problem is it didn't fit the narrative. Personally I doubt the public will never know the truth about Newtown, ever.

Drink all you want......at home. Drinking while in public is a gamble. Drinking in public with a weapon is just stupid.

Not one of mine, I just thought it was funny. This would make anyone "flip the switch!" Great thread WW001!