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We are going to eliminate somewhere in the neighborhood of 15,000 posts by doing this but I am in the process of purging any non-pinned posts in the Trading Post forums where the content hadn't been replied to since 01/01/2020. In other words, I am retaining anything a year old or newer. I will be looking for ways to make it easier for you to all to delete your own Trading Post threads once an item has been sold.

That is the one advantage perhaps in going with an auction. You can set a starting price that is a good deal. If it goes for more, that is not on you. I generally start an item here under market, no takers than I try auction. Id rather have it stay here, but we all know what cheapskates we all are I like to think it’s not rationalizing scalping. It cuts both ways, it’s not like someone is going to offer me a solid the other direction, right? Say, “hey,...whatever you want you get at historically low prices no matter what or when you buy it “ If I choose to buy today of my on volition, I don’t think I’m being taken advantage of. Buyers determine their own needs in a free market.

DING, DING, DING, we have a winner here.

I found a box of Buffalo Bore 45-70 in some stuff in the garage. I no longer own a gun in 45-70. I don't have the stomach to list it for some obnoxious price. I gave it to someone I know that has a gun chambered for it. Not everything is about money. The way things look like they're headed, I don't think money is gonna buy much anyway.

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Every time I watch the news, I am less sure that there is actually intelligent life on earth.

Derek you have been given some good advice by many. I might add trying to find or make friends with somebody that reloads. It is much easier to learn by seeing it done firsthand. You still need to have and read reloading books. If you friend will teach you and let you load some, you can find out first hand is this something you would enjoy. If you aren't a perfectionist, I say leave it alone. I enjoy reloading almost as much as shooting and I can do it in the dead of winter at night. If you still want to reload your best bet for economy is finding used items, they rarely get worn out. I will 2nd what Paul Revere said, I started with and still load on a Rockchucker, but my dillon square deal is nice. Bought it used off of evilbay and it had belonged to a shooter so no telling the tens of thousands this machine has made, if I have something break, Dillon replaces it free, I told them the first time I needed something that I bought it used off of evilbay and the guy said it's blue isn't it and I said yes and his reply was I don't care if you found it in a ditch is has a lifetime warranty. Start looking for your newest best buddy!!

I started reloading on my father's RCBS press when I was a kid. When I married and moved out, I bought Lee reloading tools because they were inexpensive. Fast forward 25 years, except for a few exceptions, I'm still using Lee products, not because of economy anymore, but because I see no need in upgrading. They work! I don't wish to discourage you, but you've picked a terrible time to begin reloading, as supplies are not to be found at this time. Don't fret, however, this will pass. We've seen it before, and we'll see it again.

There is a wide range of behavior, and it does not generalize well. There is a marked difference between opportunists who seek out and buy up high demand items during a (perceived) crisis versus selling excess or items you planned to sell and you are afforded the rare opportunity to break even or profit instead of taking the usual loss due to market conditions. We are talking the differences between in timing, scale, and intent. Plus value judgements. Are you moral for selling home in a down market vs immoral for selling when the market is high? Closer to home. What about the guys who simply enjoy buying and selling characterized by going to auctions or prowl the classified for deals, and later selling them at a profit? The difference being a year and half ago they were just a gun enthusiast doing a classic buy low sell high without issue. Now they sell, and make a bigger margin due to increased demand we need to view them differently. Is the expectation they should take all items off market and wait until a republican is in office and there is a glut? Economics does not make someone evil. Not that there aren't those who you'd love to see hung by their junk. The guy last March who bought up the 18k bottles of hand sanitizer for example. The flip side of that seems to demand you never accept something discounted. Is that not the buyer taking advantage of market conditions? We all seek out to pay full price at all times, right? Whether its someone who is forced to sell on a timeline for cash versus or someone selling during a glut, anyone buying is therefore just as immoral. Some even "stack it deep" on speculation without that same value judgement. May be a touch hypocritical.

Not disagreeing with you entirely, but yes to your question about testing and field work ... Benelli did it. If they are making a true clone then there is little difference. Then you are looking at individual parts that if they don't hold up can be replaced with Benelli or better aftermarket parts. I have used the Hawk/IAC/Pardener 870 clones and believe they are better than the Remington's. The Hawk I have, actually has a better grade steel than Remington's due to US EPA regulations and it takes straight 870 part with only a slight modification to the forearm. It's not different than 1911's or AR's other than scale.

A point that needs to be made often. Thank you.

Regardless of how you feel about Reuters or the media in general. this article is a good example of why some of our terms and conditions exist - especially as relates to participating on the forum and what sort of content you may or may-not post. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-inauguration-threats-insight/as-inauguration-nears-law-enforcement-scrutiny-drives-u-s-extremists-into-internets-dark-corners-idUSKBN29K20U I am also attaching the article as a PDF since links to external content tend to change or get archived over time. 2021-01-15 (Reuters) Inauguration Law Enforcement Extremists Internet.pdf

If I have something to sell I'm going to sell at market value, or possibly below if I'm just looking to get something out of the way. I don't recall ever selling any ammo, but if I were to sell ammo today I would price it based on it's market value, just like anything else. What I will not do is find ammo in stock, buy it out and sell it at a profit. Though during the last ammo shortage I was known to buy it up and resell to family, friends, and even some TGOers at the price I paid. Anything to keep it out of the scalper's hands.

You obviously priced the tiller too low. "Fair" is a subjective term, make sure you're "fair" to yourself first ...

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Thank you everyone for all the words of wisdom. It is quite an awful time to look into realoading. But I’ll start with my research and book learning for the next little bit until everything passes. *fingers crossed* lol

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Jeff Fisher is a 50% winning coach at best. He needs to stay where he is, out of coaching.

Like the administration wasn’t aware.

I heard about this investigation on The Dan Patrick show a few weeks back. They joked that Tennessee can't even win at cheating. I think this move is partly to get ahead of any NCAA punishment, but good luck with that. Now that sports betting is getting more legit, they need to bring the hammer down on things like this. This gave the university a perfect excuse to cut Pruitt's contract for cause, and it looks like Fulmer is going to bow out to try and save his reputation. The real danger to Pruitt is if he can show he was doing things with the university's knowledge, and wants to salt the earth. My guess is he goes through the motions to see what money he can shake loose, then bites his tongue while hoping a mid-major team picks him up. Either way, more losing for Tennessee is on tap.

Spoken like a true Car Salesman!!! lol Rabbi would be proud! Hey...I'm sorta, kinda, in the biz. Have some money in a family note lot. No real profit these days, but I hope to get a nice used pickup for my investment.

Oh I know it ain’t a benelli but for what i would be using it for I can replace a whole lotta parts at that price before I ever regretted the purchase...which I guess makes my decision easy

AIM Surplus got a shipment in a few days ago. It's OOS now, but if you sign up for their mailing list, you can get notified when the next batch arrives ...

The truth of the matter is that people will always be people... Ya are simply findin out who the "opportunists" n "users" are. Choose your business deals n friends wisely... That us all... watchin n choosin leroy...

I think Magpul is saying F it lets see how far we can get

I say make hay while the sun shines....like "No One" said make sure your fair to yourself first. For all the people riding the high horse I would say no one is forcing anyone to buy anything. Also its easy to sit on that perch if all your bills are paid in full and ya got no mortgage no kids and or your already retired. For 99% of the people that have any bills remaining I say charity begins at home and take care of your bills and family while you can as long as your not forcing anyone into anything its not unethical its just a free market. Capitalism rocks!

http://www.lebanongunshop.com/services.html The Lebanon Gun Shop offers reloading classes. I second the recommendation of buying 'The ABC's of Reloading" and reading it before buying anything else.

True enough if we're talking about non-essential items like ammo or components. Not so true if we're talking about essentials after a disaster. I'm thoroughly disgusted with the current market for ammo and components, and I'm trying not to participate. Another thread here on TGO linked to a GB ad in which a 525 box of .22 ammo was bid up to $250. That strikes me as insane, but it was an auction and no one was forced to bid. Honestly, I'm dismayed by the whole thing.

Hi, and welcome. First,I'd suggest reading the book "The ABCs of Reloading". Also, you will want 2 or 3 reloading manuals.... Hornady, Speer, etc. Educate yourself on the rounds you are interested in, powders possible, etc. You will find reloading components hard to find right now. Lots of folks like powder measuring and press preferences around companies like Lee, RCBS, etc. Doing homework is key to reloading. Lots of references here.. good luck.

Well, when people have a lot of extra cash sitting around scarcity forces prices up.

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I've done a lot of genealogical research, I've even been to the Mormon Genealogical Research Library in Salt Lake City Utah. I too have a grandfather who served in WWII and would love to find more information about his service. I use familysearch.org which is hosted by the Mormon Church and is free. There is a lot of good information on there and oftentimes you can get leads on where to find documents or information that you are looking for. A word of caution: anyone can add anything to these records, so use them as a guide and verify information on your own. Unfortunately, a lot of the WWII records were lost when the records house in St. Louis caught fire in the 1970s. Good luck.

Is Tennessee back? They're back to looking for another coach, and are possibly back to dealing with another athletic department scandal. f they were involved in a pay to play situation, they could probably sue the players involved for breach of contract ...

So I have a benelli M4 and also recently just got the shipping notification for a group buy I did at work for 25 Black Ace Tactical Bullpup Pro’s https://blackacestactical.com/product/pro-series-bullpup-semiautomatic/. It’s basically a Turkish import they modify and sell as their own. While I agree with the established pedigree of the M4, the BAT Pro fits a niche, and is guaranteed by the Florida based company. They run nicely and are much easier to run for home defense/cqb than my benelli. The M4 will break you off in cqb, it’s a beast and I would also never leave my benelli out of the safe. While the BAT at 28” (compared to the M4 at 40”) with a 10 round mag in a semi auto platform at $400 won’t bring me to my knees asking WTF if something happened to it because I left it by the bed and didn’t secure it.

I laughed too hard at this.

This was a good suggestion. Not sure how I never knew about this. Thanks for the suggestion.

Be sure to let us know how you like it in 3-4 months (after order) when you get it.

I love this. ! Thank you " Lebanon Gun Shop " Brothers n Sisters. ! We salute all Ya'll..! SALUTE. !!! admirin leroy .

No go at Academy sports this morning on the SCCY. They did have a little bit of 9 mm and some 38 special but it’s probably all gone by now.

Raoul is right on the money, here. Components are unobtanium at anything approaching reasonable prices. Powder is in low supply, brass is hard to find. And reloading equipment is commanding premium prices right now. If I were interested in starting out right now, I'd try hard to hold off until supplies normalize again. The problem with that, of course, is that we could be looking at a new normal.

Loading pistol ammo on a single stage press is a labor of love. It takes a lot of time to produce enough to shoot in a few minutes.

Ok, you guys have gotten me interested. Kurt Schlichter is now on my active search list!

Don't forget to pickup your brass. Apr 29 1918 Near Domart

I went to Academy Sports today. Found UpLula in stock for $29.99 +tax. Just tried it and it is most assuredly worth the money.

I guess I'll just fish or bowl or something.

I use Tennessee’s own Black Bullets International. https://www.blackbulletsinternational.com/

My PSA AK was languishing in some terrible OD polymer furniture from the factory. Found some proper Russian furniture to make it a proper AK.

I hear you

Come on out and play with the big boys.