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Stopped by "frothy monkey" in Franklin for breakfast and coffee. Free wireless however with any website related to guns or weapons such as this forum "blocked by system administrator" Interesting they do not block violent gaming websites or websites related to alcohol etc. Their system, their dime, so they can set it up any way they want...but I told them they lost a customer and would spread the word.

  I suppose they could change their name to "Democratic Party 2"...at least that would be more descriptive.  :shrug:   If there's not an official TGO style guide, we need one.  Entry number one shall dictate that if one uses a phrase such as "Democratic Party 2", it shall be followed by a colon, two spaces, and the following phrase:  "Electric Boogaloo".  This results in the more satisfying and entertaining "Democratic Party 2: Electric Boogaloo".  Please note that this usage is for any real or hypothetical sequels the author or authors may deem appropriate.  As an example:   I read in the paper that Ben Bernanke had authorized QE2, which I found out meant a 2nd round of Quantitative Easing.  It makes me uneasy to see money printed willy-nilly.   Look how much better things get with just a minor change:   I read in the paper that Ben Bernanke had authorized QE2:  Electric Boogaloo, which I found out meant a 2nd round of Quantitative Easing.  It makes me uneasy to see money printed willy-nilly.   Hope this helps.

I just had this conversation with a friend. While the article should be a little alarming, it isnt anything new. That sort of stuff has been coming down the pike since the mid 90's. I was on active duty when I first learned/heard of it. What really concerns me is the ability of the DOD and VA to strip members and veterans rights without due process.

The reporters need to leave the guns alone, and do an investigation on all the illegal aliens we have here in TN, and why they are getting food stamps welfare and free health care. Then you can worry about the NICS check some other time..   Or how jobs are being sent overseas, and what the impact on the national/ local economy is. Ok, this is a good one, EBT card fraud and abuse that is a hot button..   Even better people that live on welfare and food stamps for years (as in decades)   Let’s do some REAL investigative reporting..   -HPH

I'd change one thing about sequestration: No exemptions. Cut everything.  Yes, that means military (including retiree benefits), social security, all of it.    All.  Of.  It.   Equal % cuts until we're balanced. If they want to cut out specific programs to save money, fine.  That savings will be applied equally to all of the across-the-board cuts.

Is it a crime to pursue someone who just robbed you at gun point?    This has nothing to do with "stand your ground".  Perhaps he was following him so he could be a good witness and tell the cops where the guy fled to.  After all, it was his money that was taken, and he has a right to his stuff, unless there is a law out there that says you absolutely MUST hand over your money, then suck your thumb in the corner as the bad guy runs away.   Where would he have broken any laws?  The bad guy EFFING SHOT AT HIM, and only then did the citizen draw his weapon and return fire.   So, the victim here was in a place where he had a legal right to be, after the criminal robbed him at gun point.  The victim attempted to follow the suspect and was shot at and therefore returned fire.  Maybe I'm just stoopid; could someone please point out where the victim committed any crime versus the criminal who committed armed robbery and aggravated assault/attempted murder?  Or are we just applying our own values to "what I would have done" and thinking falsely that has any sort of bearing on law?   This is the story:   Bad guy robs good guy.  Good guy follows bad guy.  Bad guy shoots at good guy.  Good guy shoots back and wounds bad guy.  Good guy gets his stuff back.  Bad guy goes back to jail where he belongs.   This guy should get a friggin medal, not a bunch of people wishing he be prosecuted for doing absolutely nothing that is against the law.

By this logic, we should declare the general populous crazy for continuing to elect these idiots!

Its just a fact of life in my opinion.   The era of a gun in the home with a present, caring father who taught the kids simple safety are gone.  We need education, and while every gun sold has the papers with rules of safety and links to the NRA site and more, no one bothers to read it, or if they do, they do not follow the rules.    What we do today is on par with letting folks get a universal driver's liscense (lets say for cars, 18 wheelers, bikes, etc) by signing off on a sheet of paper promising to obey the laws.   People who have never held a gun before are buying them as adults and get no training and little in the way of education.   This is going to cause a lot of accidents and incidents, period.      My thoughs on it are that it should be taught in highschool, to both genders, in all schools.  Nothing fancy here, just the 4 rules of safety and some good background on what NOT to do.     On top of that, I hope that instead of running away from these people, that we can man up and quietly, in a friendly way, TRY to reach out to them.  Don't be confrontational (really, there are a few people that will shoot you for being a jerk).  Don't have a hissy fit (counter productive).  Talk guns for a min, try being friendly even if you want to strangle the person.  Then move into safety, and try to somehow explain the rules.  If the person is unwilling to listen, and some will be, there isnt much to be done there unfortunately, but its worth 5 min to try.   Keep it simple, its not an action shooting match.  If you can get them to keep the finger off the trigger and point it generally in the direction of downrange, as well as being aware of cold range calls, its a big, big start.   Running from the range is perhaps wise, but it does not help anyone, it just changes out one victim (YOU) for someone who was less aware of the problems (some other new guy who was not watching the other shooters).       reloading --- is not a noob issue.  Experienced reloaders make mistakes, get complacent and careless, start watching TV while they handle explosives, etc.   I think that is the biggest danger: growing careless due to feelign experienced about it, missing a detail and boom.  

  You could be right about the DHS training ground, I don't know. I hope you're wrong. But I don't think the answer is to flee. We need to dig in and fight everywhere, not just where the gun laws aren't as bad as New York, Illinois, and California. We need to fight for our constitutional rights especially in those place where they are in the greatest jeopardy. And in places like Tennessee where at least we can buy our rights from our generous government we need to fight to be able to exercise our rights for free and not be forced to prove we aren't criminals in order to do so.

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I took my boss to the range the other day to train him on basic firearms usage.  He had an incident at his home a few weeks ago and it convinced him he needed to get some protection.  Anyway we pull up to the range and a long time shooting buddy of mine was there along with the biggest crowd I have ever seen.   My buddy says come here a minute, so my boss and I head over to talk to him.  He says stand back here and watch for a few minutes.  We had postitioned ourselves behind the firing line caddy corner to the range where we could see everything that was going on.  What i witnessed there over the next 15 minutes was something in all of my years (33) of shooting that was unprecendented.    First thing I saw was a nice looking family of five, a daughter maybe 15, a son maybe 10, the daughters boyfriend the mom and the dad.  The 10 year old or so was shooting a single shot .410 straight into the ground 5 feet in front of him at a mud hole.  Then he handed it over to the mother so she could take her turn.  She attempted to fire the weapon and nothing. She then turned to her husband perpendicularly swingin the barrel down the firing line and gestured as if to say it didnt fire.  He then looked at it while the gun was pointing across the range and pulled the hammer back -- while pointing across the range and handed it back to her.  My buddy and I immediately called them on it.  The father got an attitude and stated he had been shotting all his life blaaa blaaa........anyway next incident   A younger kid was shotting a PX4 and shot a hole throught the roof.  I looked at my boss and said we will come back another time.  After talking with with the president of the range we are going to have to install range officers now or no shooting it looks like.  Anyway moral of the story there are lot of new people that have never fired a gun before that are buying Glocks, Xp's etc.       BE CAREFUL and do not take anything for granted.....watch before you shoot.     An indoor range near here a women shot her boyfriend (a instructor, LEO and former military)  when the hot brass went down her shirt......     Its a different age now, and some of us are not giving the LIBS water for the fire.

    Looks like we're getting our money's worth at 10 bucks a pop.  :lol:   Might want to mention that as well.  We are forced to pay an additional tax (fee) in this state when purchasing a firearm for a service the Federal government provides for free.

A cut in the growth of spending is not a cut in spending. The way that is spun drives me bonkers. A cut is spending means you spend less this year than you did last year, not that ou increased your spending by less than you thought ou would.

I don't personally have an issue with these.  I think many are drawing conclusions and correlations that aren't there.  This is not about "training" to shoot children, or pregnant women, or grandma.  This is about being able to train and better identify on "instinct" a possible threat.  Just because you identify a possible threat doesn't mean that you automatically shoot.  I think most well trained LEO's will attempt to determine if a threat is real or not before firing their weapon.  Not all, but most.  At the end of the day, it comes down to a Human making a decision.  Sometimes they will be right and sometimes they will be wrong.  Welcome to the real world.  If these types of targets help them identify threats better, so be it.     I personally get a little tired of some in the gun crowd complaining when they think something is offensive and then complain when others complain something is offensive, but the gun owners don't think it is.  You can't have your cake and eat it too.  Yes, if they were pictures of black people, someone would complain, even though that wouldn't be right either.  Let's not stoop to their level, everything is not a conspiracy.

 Don't bet on it. I got some retired pals and the VA does all it can to delay or refuse claims. They'll offer plenty of pills though. Get you hooked then they can control them.

Thanks, this one took me almost 15 years to "justify".  I mean let's face it, there's not a whole lot of use for a 22LR bench rifle, but now I know what my limits are too.  And I feel like its a pretty good practice rifle.  Now if decent 22LR would only find its way back onto the shelves I would be all set.

I recieved this email from J&G sales today. ANNOUNCING A NEW J&G POLICY ON SHIPPING RESTRICTED ITEMSFor immediate release:As state and local jurisdictions are increasingly passing laws which infringe upon the Second Amendment of the US Constitution, J&G Sales is implementing a new policy on shipping restricted items to these states and localities.Effective immediately, laws that restrict firearms, ammunition, or magazine possession by law abiding citizens will also be applied to state and local law enforcement and government agencies in that jurisdiction. All residents will be treated equally. Honorable citizens, law enforcement personnel, and government agents, should all be allowed to utilize the most effective defensive equipment available.J&G believes that there should not be a difference between the rights of citizens and those of government employees. This new policy will also help us to be sure we avoid the consequences of not conforming with the anti-firearm regulations in these various jurisdictions.We expect to lose some revenue from government purchases, however we feel it is essential to defend the US Constitution by making a statement about the importance of the Second Amendment in maintaining our freedoms.We await the day when all law abiding citizens will be able to possess the most effective means and tools available for self-defense regardless of where they live or for whom they work.Thank you Looks like more companies are jumping on the band wagon, but I imagine that there will probably be enough other companies that don't join in that the government agencies will still get their evil guns and magazines, but these companies are at least taking a stand.

IMHO the whole "no-hesitation" training policy is an extremely flawed concept, not every civilian with a gun in their hand is a threat that needs to be "shot on sight, without hesitation". George Washington & Thomas Jefferson would be appalled, as should every other free-thinking American, if a pregnant woman has a gun in her hand she probably has a damn good reason for it & she's probably scared out of her mind, how about identifying yourself as a police officer & simply asking her what's going on instead of gunning her down "without hesitation" as if she was some sort of Jihadi on a battlefield.

I don't want to turn this into an OC vs CC thread so PLEASE don't contribute to that but...... I think I am going to go against my better judgement and start OC'ing all I can. If my letters and emails are falling on mostly deaf ears I think OC'ing will at least do my parts to expose the general public to the presence of a law abiding, sane, responsible, gun owner/carrier. If anything it will hopefully lead to more questions about guns in general, why I carry, etc. I have already "converted 5 or 6 friends and it is a good feeling. I feel like I personally can accomplish more doing that than sending emails.   I believe if you do it right and give them the correct information and maybe even a little free 1 on 1 lesson time they can in turn do the same for their other friends. Best way to get the fire started in my opinion. Again I know most have been doing this all along but I am just gasping for air I guess. Looking for something to make a difference.

Mexico can go #### themselves.

Told my wife we each need new Browning Citori's. Thanks for the advice Joe. you're a dildo.

I'm confused. Did xRUSTYx just offer to buy a gun or a girlfriend from TDR?

I know the text is true. I know it's meant to be humorous. I know it's trendy and topical.   I also know I won't wear anything that has him on it or refers to him even in a derogatory fashion.

I think they should join the other company's that refuse to sell to states that have state/ fed restrictions on guns and mags etc. and NOT SELL TO POLICE or any agency's in those states because they are not exempt from the laws either. If I understood this correctly, Barrett here in Murfreesboro was one of the first to do it and the list grows. I guess Como/ Bloomburg screwed their own NYPD. To bad Glock don't jump on the band wagon and boycott those states.

  Multi-media anal :)

It's you're, your... and it's regardless... irregardless doesn't exist.

I'm convinced that the alleged infidelities were just a low-blow BS assault from the left to get him to drop out. You notice that as soon as he dropped from the race, nothing else was said about it. I would definitely vote for Rand Paul or Marco Rubio.   And as for the debate performances, that obviously doesn't matter. Obama got totally annihilated on all three debates but he still "won".

yeah right, he is just the person I want to take personal protection advice from.   And fwiw firing off a shotgun indiscriminately inside city limits and other locales may be illegal.

How - in the name of all that is holy - do these imbeciles get elected into office? Have they ever read a newspaper or a police blotter?  Why aren't the women of Colorado screaming from the roof tops about this load of tripe. I wanted to vomit when I read the list. I may still.

.22LR?

  Obviously you sue the whistle manufacturer.

This was 3 hours ago but Academy in Mt. Juliet have winchester 22lr (limit 1) in stock.  as well as a lot of American Eagle 223 (limit 1) in stock.   Walmart there in Mt. Juliet had a ton of 9mm!  I got 3 boxes of tula.  they had maybe 15 boxes of Federal and at least 1 case of winchesters (he was still unboxing those). 

I know, I was being just a little bit sarcastic.

Wish I used facebook simply to post this video. I've cleaned the malware off enough systems over the years from compromised accounts spamming out links.   typical user: Oh look, my 90 grandmother sent me a link to a website...what is .ru? aww hell, now i got the aids...

I would like to chime in a say I am a new re-loader but I'm doing for the fun of it and not just build a stock pile. With that enthusiasm, I've read, watched and taken in just about everything I could before I popped out my first spent primer. I check every case for a double charge and measure and put each in a case gauge.    I'm saying this for 2 reasons. Maybe to put you mind at ease that some noobs are really taking this seriously. Also, please don't immediately discount all noobs and help where you see a chance.

I read the whole thread, my take is. When theings go bad in this country the UN just might step in. Mexco is the closest country to us, with no border wall it would be easy to come in and "help" the UN. Texas would slow them down, but to many "UN personal" will over welm Texas. We lack commacation, and organzion, with out eather we would have a tuff time fighting back. O YEA, GOTO HELL MEXCO!

  I would hope that if the US was invaded my local gun shop guy would burn the 4473's just for that reason...ummm, should call him tomorrow and see if he has an invasion plan.  :rant:

Cool, I'll try this one. I somewhat stopped using the Ruger site because it can't be edited. I have been using the NRA page as well as drafting some of my own. I'll check out this hornady page tonight. Thanks.

  I own property there. Bunch of liberals in that area. I can always score at that store.

(auction voice)Do I hear $450?

Before you buy someones girlfriend for that cheap you should probably check her rifling for pits....   just sayin....

Hahah TDR, you should have let him sweat a little, left out the j/k. That's funny

Frankly, if they simply returned all spending to FY 2008 levels it would be a tremendous step forward in getting our spending under control but a Senator or Congressman even suggesting such a thing will get him/her labeled an idiot or worse.   I'm just so sick of the whole damn lot of them....just about all of them are narcissistic, criminals and socialists who don't give a damn about this country or its citizens.

Uncle Joe said to buy a shotgun, so I got one last night. A converted Saiga with 2 10 rd mags, and a 20 rd drum. Thats what he meant right??

Hey, they tried with the Cain Train. He wasn't white AND he liked the ladies. For some reason he was demonized on both accounts by the press.

as soon as all the illegals leave and the flow of drugs stop, we can *talk* about that.  Hey, I compromised! 

Ouch. Tough situation. Gonna say I agree with you ... but wonder how tough my resolve would be if mags ever got back down to pre-crazy prices. Lets be real though ... the CO House threw these guys a bone ... FOR NOW. I seriously hope Magpul sees thru the bs and realizes this is just a temporary pause on the anti's agenda towards their business to save face in front of the 600 or so employees. I hope they stand firm and I will buy stuff from them now AND after they relocate.

Interesting but these are the type of stories they don't put on the news. I've often wondered how many potential crime situations were stopped before the bad guy got his way. I had a jerk try to rob me in Minneapolis. He had a knife I had nothing but it was one of the worst weeks I'd had......car broke down, having to ride the bus, land lady's dog crapping on my bed amount other irritating things. I pretended to be reaching into my jacket for a wallet and noticed he was not paying attention. I hit him square in the nose as hard as I could sending him down on his knees, hisnhands covered with blood. I did not report it to the police although I imagine the doctor may have that evening when I found I had broken my hand on this crackheads face.

Yeah, I entered as well. Neat looking rifles. Saw one at Goodman's today.   Wouldn't turn it down if given to me.