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  The gunfire is a problem because it's inconsistent. Zombies are slow, can be found in herds, want to eat you, and can be killed by destroying the brain. It's not real, but it's consistent so viwers suspend disbelief and don't question it. Head shot hip-fires from a handgun at 200 yards followed by scoped rifles missing at 50 yards is not consistent. Inconsistencies in a story line kill the immersion factor by making the viewer focus on the fact that the story is pretend. The story the writers are trying to draw us into is interrupted by "hey....wait a minute....how could that have just happened when last week they did X?"   As for the safeties and revolvers ejecting, that's irritating for much the same reason. The details can make or break a story. The viewer is either engaged in the story or they aren't. Missing the details hurts that. Besides that, it's simply wrong. It would be like having a sound effect for a top-fuel dragster every time they drive by in that Hyundai. That said, it's only going to interrupt the immersion for enthusiasts like us that would notice those details. Most viewers won't notice that stuff, but anyone can notice the marksmanship inconsistency. That's why I think that's a much bigger deal.   The "safety" comment from Andrea, I think, was a throwback to season 1 when she had that nice handgun but didn't know how to use it. I think it was a wink-and-a-nod to how far she has come from scared dingy blonde to zombie-stomper. Sort of an inside-thing between her and Rick, and not so much a comment that his revolver has a safety.

Yea I love living in the great state of TN. But we must remain vigilant and stand guard against the communist ideology, that is eroding our fine country. This disease is spreading from state to state. I hope and pray that the day it attempts to gain a foothold in our state, there will be people that will stand up against the scourge and not go quietly into the night of stupidity.   :usa:

  don't forget the tax advantages as well :)

The treaty will not pass the Senate, at least not yet.  I imagine the Democrats are going to just hold onto it until the day they have enough votes in the Senate to pass it.    My hope is that this all out assault by the Democrats on the Second Amendment will result in them losing the Senate in 2014.  Then we can stop them dead in their tracks.  If Obama's policies have not totally destroyed our economy by 2016, then we can hopefully get the White House and many of the the currently liberal state governments back too (Colorado comes to mind).  Then we can start reversing every liberal gun control law that has been passed in the past 8+ years.     Yeah yeah, I know.  2016 is a long way off........but I have a dream.  I want the liberals to be so defeated that even their self esteem is crushed to the core.  

I was referred to a financial advisor back in Knoxville who will help me decide the best route to take.   She said it was very rare for someone my age to be this knowledgeable and interested in investing. I told her it's too bad Americans are more concerned with American Idol than their finances.

   I believe you are right. In several cases, UN Delegates from the minor, have nots, third world, have openly avowed that the wealth of the US and its people should be divided "equitably" with the rest of the world.   Socialism or Communism. Choose your poison. If we cowtow to the UN, we are well and truly finished as a world power. And we are teetering  on the edge of a fall right now.

Maybe if the rest of the nation gave it a good nudge.   Problem is California is the petri dish for the nation. Almost every single gun, enviromental or liberal type law originated in California. Then the rest of the nation followed or tries to follow suit. Think it hasn't happened here look at the enviromental controls passed here. They were in California long before they were here.   And we already have liberal leaning legislators here otherwise we would be passing a lot more protective measures for guns. Just takes a few more in key places and we will see California laws here.

Did you read the thread or just reply?

Good post. And your comment about Andrea and the safety is spot on IMO. Exactly what I was thinking.

The "practical" (which I personally don't see; I think it's nonsense) is the aforementioned press check. Personally, I've never seen a more effective "loaded chamber indicator" on a 1911 than the hammer being back. What more do you need?

Tennessee desperately needs to follow other states who waive the background check requirement for HCP holders.  That would eliminate a large part of the TICS workload. 

I would be shocked if the Senate can get 66 votes to ratify it.  I don't think it is going anywhere at this time.

      Yes, HIghpoint and Red are correct. All too many people, even some gun owners, still have their heads in the sand, or stuck up somewhere else; and refuse to see what is coming.   Sniping along one gun or mag at a time, the process continues. And the endgame is the complete and total disarming of this country.   Yes, it will be, hopefully, very difficult because of the sheer number of weapons in the hands of the public. But it can and will happen if we don't stand together.   Call. Write. Email all your elected representatives. Be vocal, but be nice. Be firm and insistant.   We will not stand for the piece by piece erosion of our freedoms and our Country.   It's more than time we stopped arguing amongst ourselves about which organization, which politican, which party is best.   Unless we keep pressure on, keep sending messages, stop electing the same tired old guys who have shown that they work for themselves and not for the people....It Won't Stop.   Stand Up People. Take off the rose colored glasses and see what's happening around you.   Shut down the tv and stop watching Survivor, Dance this or that, Idol and Voice crap. And even Walking Dead! Maybe that's too much for some of you.   But if we don't wake up and fight back....We are Lost.

No one says you have to render aid and certainly, the bad guy should be last to get it if others need it but if you are ever involved in a shooting you can bet your 15 seconds of actions will be judged with a magnifier glass over hours, days and weeks; rendering aid to the person you just shot is one very good way to help those who will be doing the perceiving, perceive you as the victim/good guy.

To echo and expand on what the others are saying, the instructor was trying to get you to take a deep breath before you call 911 and say something that can be used against you later.  When I was in law enforcement, my plan following a shooting was to call for assistance, render aid, and immediately call my PBA lawyer (fortunately I never had to put that plan into action).  If you are involved in a shooting as a CCW holder, go ahead and plan on talking to the police and the district attorney, possibly multiple times.  Also, plan on getting sued by the bad guy/gal or their relatives.  The rules governing evidence in a civil trial are different than a criminal trial.  The point is that anything you say, including during a 911 call, can be used against you.  Also, consider that courts generally give excited utterances credibility because it is assumed that people won't have the time to make up a story while they are emotionally keyed up.  However, if you wait too long to make that 911 call, you are almost certain to be held civilly liable and possible criminally liable as well, which I presume was the point of your original question.   Work on this scenario in your mind because mental preparation is important here as in the actual defense situation.  This is also the reason why people need to be absolutely certain that the use of deadly force was absolutely essential.  If you really believe the shooting was absolutely necessary, you are less likely to say anything that would suggest otherwise.     As far as the actions of the police, generally, upon arrival at the scene anticipate being approached at gun point, placed on the ground, and handcuffed until the officers can get control of the situation and determine that everything is safe.  It's not personal, so don't take it that way.  You may be Mother Teresa's first cousin, but all the officers know upon arrival is that you shot someone.  The officers may or may not take an initial statement at the scene, but they will likely transport you to the police station for a more in-depth interview.  I would request an attorney before making any detailed statement beyond the very minimal information to establish the shooting as a self-defense shooting.  The 911 call should be pulled by the investigator and added to the evidence related to the case.  

Call 911 immediately, do not wait because witnesses leave the area.   Then when the officers are there tell them you were the victim. Then tell them the subjects actions put you in fear. Do not refer to the person that is shot as the victim, you are the victim. The person shot is the subject, not you.   Beyond that I would not offer any more information. Be cooperative be do not offer any information without being asked.

Ooh, it's the free market. An item is worth what someone will pay for it. Supply and demand in action. Did I cover them all? Screw CTD.

I know this sounds like good news, but when it's coming from the RINO herd, you have to worry.   http://thehill.com/video/senate/291103-graham-senate-dems-gun-bill-going-nowhere

  Not to worry, it's just a few razor marks.... ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Poor Boyd.   Good wrap up of it all.

  I would love to buy a house but I need to save more for a down payment before I can do so. We really don't want to stay in Orlando for longer than 3-4 more years so we may rent until it's time to relocate. 

As far as deductions you will get no more than 1/3rd of your total interest back.

But we are far from being last in that contest. I can think of at least a 1/2 dozen other states that are better than Tennessee as far as individual freedoms and gun rights. Not saying we are bad, because we are not, but we are far from being dead last which is where I would want to be.

The libtard states are having a big contest right now... "How Commie Can You Go?". Tennessee is a long way from that kind of stupid.

Why do we fear soldiers who wear white helmets and blue arm bands and can't load their guns in the land of the rifleman?

  I appreciate that the Lee 1000 fills the bill for a lot of reloaders.  I inherited mine from someone who upgraded.  A few parts were missing and some that weren't didn't work properly.  So I did a culture shift--I ditched everything "Otto" and went "Manuel" instead.  I bought a Lee Perfect Powder Measure and an RCBS hand priming tool.  I don't even use that third hole on the turret.  I'm not cranking out 300 rounds per hour, but I'm making enough for my needs.  :D

Here is a SAAMI video showing how safe modern cartridges really are.   http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=3SlOXowwC4c#

    Me three. I got the "safety comment" fine.   - OS

I prefer a clean slide aesthetically, however I like the practicality of the serrations.

probably if so i think this country is more screwed than it is now

HAHAHAHAHAHA  joke is on me   :ugh:  :rofl:

As long as the govt teet do continue to poureth into the expectant mouths of the ovis aries.. 'never you mind those gmos or rancidity'.. 'just get back in line for the branding of the five golden stars'.. Sent from my SPH-D700 using Tapatalk 2

have seen one for the 300BO at optics plant sorry but do not remember who made. the only reason i remember was because for the huge differance of flight between sonic and sub sonic\ also right now thet a on 10% c0de right  till april10 april10 is the code

I can't get my old laptop to go for nothin , best I can tell the hard drive is out. Well I tried.....

You might find this interesting...       I had been told numerous times that most police departments have a policy similar to the above and that they do because they KNOW that when an officer is involved in a shooting, they aren't going to be thinking straight for a while. That applies to civilians too because we all have the same chemicals rushing through our bodies when we are faced in that kind of situation. That's why you don't want to be offering a lot of information or answering a lot of questions immediately after a self-defense shooting and especially not without your attorney present. I think that most LE will understand why a person involved in a SD shooting will not just want but really needs some time to compose him/her self before answering a lot of questions.   You DO want to be the first person to call 911. You DO need to give basic information such as has already been suggested.  You also want to make sure that the 911 operator (and the police) know who you are/what you look like so that when LE arrive on the scene they don't mistake you for the bad guy! You also should have the phone number (cell if possible) of one or two attorneys you can call from the scene...keep their numbers in your wallet. Practice the things you NEED to say ahead of time so that when the emotions are flowing you'll know what to say and what not to say.

 hoodies  to wear while we frolicked in

I figured this was another Glock thread. :hiding:

Our accident happened at 9:30. Fog had lifted by then but still heavy backup. [url="http://www.wlos.com/article?id=9303201&categoryid=277&election=&provider="]http://www.wlos.com/article?id=9303201&categoryid=277&election=&provider=[/url] We are the black Land Rover in the short clips. Ms May was driving the white Ford Thunderbird. I'm still in shock that we are home safe and she isn't here anymore. Life is fragile, cherish it!

I suspect the guard had no clue about the rules. All he saw was a Segway, which is what the mall cops use, and thought only they were allowed to have them. Hell, I wish I had a Segway to help me on my bad days. Or maybe the veteran wasn't wearing a helmet, like the mall cops have to, and the mall cops told him he had to.   I will not look at any veteran in any negative light until we have all the facts. If the mall cop was wrong I hope the veteran takes his salary for the next few years and the veteran becomes part owner of the mall.

I'm not disagreeing with you guys. The handouts need to stop. The system and the taxpayer are getting screwed. I simply want to see the same passion when our government is sending money overseas and landing helicopters full of aid before a storm has ended. Those actions are also our tax dollars at work and I'd rather they be spent at home first.

I understand why you guys are ranting, but sitting at home drawing government assistance isn't as glamorous as some like to make it sound. I have seen people purchase the first of the year tax refund cars and first of the month grocery baskets filled to the rim. I have also seen those same cars repossessed before the summer and those baskets empty a week later. Some people repeatedly make bad decisions and sometimes they end up paying for them the rest of their lives. I will never hate or envy those people. I will continue to work hard to provide for my family and set an example so hopefully none of my children will have to depend on government handouts. If we are going to squander the tax payers money, I would rather my tax dollars go to Americans receiving government assistance than continually spent on wars and foreign aid. The issue with illegals is another beast. Get accustomed to it. Politicians on both sides of the isle see a new block of voters and it's butt kissing time.

Welcome to the USA :)

been buying from them for years.  Since way back when they sold milsurp supplies by mail order.   The price is what the market will bear.   How good of a business model is that?  Capitalism might be the term.   If you don't like it don't buy. I ain't buying it. But when I need and they have the best price I buy.

They burned their drawers with me in 2008. I'll never spend another penny with them.

I just eat the breast on wild turkey's.  I have the breast brining today and will smoke it tomorrow for dinner. 

I was checking out Wikipedia to refresh my memory on the Korean War dates.    Noticed they already have inserted today's date.     The Korean War (Korean: í•œêµ­ì „ìŸ or ì¡°ì„ ì „ìŸ, Hanja: éŸ“國戰爭 or æœé®®æˆ°çˆ­; 25 June 1950 – 27 July 1953, 30 March 2013 - )[23][a][25]

  A Glock 19 is like bacon. If you don't like that, you may need some therapy :)

There you go making all of us gun owners look like cat killers.

It's disappointing to read a lot of the comments in this thread.