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Anytime I can teach a new person to shoot, I do it. Their political beliefs don't matter. We need more people in our camp, not less.

So, i'm a pig hunter. Rabidly so, in fact. I prefer hunting hogs to just about anything else on the planet. I've hunted them in 8 states & on 3 continents. But tonight I did something I never ever thought i'd manage. I. Shot. A. MONSTER! I have to add, this was completely free range. No lodge, no fences, no pay-to-play & it was here in middle TN.... just a straight up hand to God feral hog. I've seen big pigs before. The kind of hogs that really get your blood pumping, but in 12 years & probably thousands of hours of hunt time I've never, ever seen a pig like this. 12 FOOT, running neck shot with my .300blk.

You and I have completely different opinions on what makes someone a lost cause. I have very good friends all over the political spectrum. Friends I would do anything for and they would do the same for me. To answer you question, you don't have to sacrifice 500 rounds of ammo. Take them shooting and bring a box of 50 rounds. I would spend more time making them practice handling the gun. Dry fire. Loading/unloading. Snap cap practice etc. One can adapt their methods of teaching to fit the current situation. BTW, I took a friend shooting recently who voted for Biden. He text me this morning and asked if I would accompany him to a gun show in a few weeks. Not everyone is a single issue voter.

He also seems to think it's a bad thing that a semi-auto, particularly AR-style rifles, will hold up to rapid fire. A lot of us have purchased that style of rifle specifically for self-defense. He argues that an AR isn't good for self-defense, but I choose to make my own decisions when it comes to the safety of my family and me.

Fresh from California here, you sir are wrong. They will attempt to chisel, hammer, poke, scrape, and eventually demolish your gun rights ASAP.

I don’t think politics have ever come up when speaking with someone interested in learning to shoot. After taming my excitement, we talk about their needs and expectations, then set a date. The new shooter is usually friends or family so I start them with dry fire on my iTarget.

I own three Gransfors Bruks axes. They’re handmade Swedish purpose built axes. They come shaving sharp - which can be strange/dangerous for anyone who’s only ever used cast hardware store axes. Not only are they perfect tools, they’re works of art. I’ve got a large splitting axe, a small forest axe, and a wildlife hatchet. They’re more expensive than a Fiskars (which is actually a completely fine axe for everyday needs) - but your kids will fight over them.

Cool thanks, and in turn I'll let you in on a secret. If I was a single issue voter Trump wouldn't be my guy, he isn't any great friend of the 2A enthusiast.

It's only the best Star Wars made, ever. Not a big deal.

If you're going to be stupid, you'd better be tough!

Parlor is toast and the 1st amendment is right behind I’m sure. Amazon shut them down and kicked them off of their server as of tonight I believe. I wonder how long until forums that don’t fit the democrat ideology will follow? Silencing your opposition is the first step to the end of freedom isn’t it? Biden and the democrats are sure working hard to “bring us all together” aren’t they?......sounds more like a big “OR ELSE” is in there somewhere.

Extensive amount of information in this. Mostly accurate, but the writer's evident bias towards semi-auto rifles doesn't sit well with me. He comes across as much a firearms control person as any I've read. His assumption that we need more arbitrary regulations and NFA control are not for me, and I think many here if you read it.

Well maybe we have different opinions or maybe they are not so different. I would definitely spend a lot of time with an unloaded gun first. Since I am a competitive shooter and have trained a few shooters, I may be thinking in terms of how to make them proficient vs. a simple introduction, but someone going to permit class will probably need more than 50 rounds under their belt. Whatever the case, I agree that a raging liberal who owns guns is better than a raging liberal who doesn't. However, if I take them to the range and they continue to gladly vote for people who want you and me to be felons tomorrow because of what we have in our safes, I feel that my efforts were fruitless.

With all the crap on their plate you think this will be the first priority? You should get out more...

1. I’m just anti Trump, not pro Biden. I’m sincere in my belief that Biden/Harris will have too much on their plates to start their administration off toying with gun owners. 2. I don’t believe gun control stops crime. I do believe that talking about gun control puts a lot of money in peoples pockets. When I said we, I meant any person in possession of a gun. You can’t be a mass shooter without a gun. I do believe that anti gun politicians have their constituents on their behinds as much as pro gun politicians catch hell for not being stronger in their stances. So the politicians will perpetually be whipping up their sides. Gun control is bad business for both parties, but business is booming when it comes to both sides scaring people. 3. I really don’t care who is feeding Biden oatmeal. Most of the politicians on both sides are being spoon fed cash by lobbyists, so for the puppet masters and politicians it will be business as usual. I’ll let you in on a secret, some people have other priorities and expectations from their politicians than 2A issues. If you are fortunate enough to be a single issue voter congratulations.

Without a doubt. David has said a lot of true things, but this is at the top.

That Machete order looks...dumb. Here’s my recommendation. It’s officially GlockSpock certified. IV V VI Rogue One I II III Solo VII IIX IX The Mandalorian It sucks that you have to watch 11 movies just to be able to fully appreciate the best Star Wars content to date, but this is the way.

X2 on Gransfors Bruks. Amazing tools and craftsmanship.

I liken it to teaching someone to drive but with more consequences. Tons of parallels with new drivers, rules, safety, and car selection. When you get someone who questions, its an analogy they can relate to. I avoid politics for the most part, outside emphasizing I expect them to examine current laws and how it effects their plans or intended use, keeping mindful that they are subject to change. I don't think you can effect most basic views as they are set as they get older, so that is pointless and a frustration to both parties. However I do ask, why they want to own a gun and their motivation if they are older. You have to access how open they are and willing listen to the voice of reason and experience. This is especially critical with family. Like spouses, familiarity leads to a tendency to discount advice or assign more credence to that of acquaintances. Those who are married I am sure can relate. Its a fair question. I don't judge the why, as much as it helps decide what their influences were, and how best to approach method and instruction.

Buy it cheap and stack it deep is really good advice. Of course, people with little foresight and a poor understanding of economics will call you a hoarder, but that's OK. While they're wailing and gnashing their teeth, you'll have ammo ...

And everybody should watch the Star Wars saga at some point in their lives

You mean I have to be a grown up and choose for myself whether or not I want to read / engage a poster, without someone moderating that viewpoint or censoring it all together, or telling me what is a good or bad things to say / read? No Thanks!

I think they can. I taught two women (friends of my wife) to shoot when both had previously been anti-gun. Both had fun shooting at and popping balloons, like you'd set up for a little kid, and I think the heavy emphasis on safety impressed them both. If and when you take those new folks spend some time on safe handling before you load a round, make sure they understand how careful we "responsible gun owners" are, and give them a way to be successful in their first outings. Big targets, short ranges. And keep an eye on them! No matter how much you preach safety, a newbie is likely to need some reinforcement. I'm not entirely convinced all those new gun sales went to new owners. I'm pretty much always in the market for something interesting, and I can tell by the postings here that I'm sure not alone in that.

I personally believe a lot of people who never owned one went out and got one for HD when the SHTF on the left coast and chants of defund the police turned into officials reviewing how much they could cut back in their city. Then we had a spell of destroying stuff all over the country for a bit. There are still people out there believing/expecting the PD to get there in time to save them from a burglary,home invasion, etc. MSM helped sell a lot of those guns whether they intended to or not. They froth up the fear factor same as they are doing now and will continue to do up until the 20th at least. In a negative for gun owners and 2a this time around. To that though, I feel like a lot of those purchases could be called in fairly easily by the incoming administration by the ever popular "buy back" program, reaffirmation that your police will be there for you , and constant hammering on your intellect to infer you're a dumbazz for wanting to own a ar14 killing machine. Then much like after Vegas you'll have those that will post a video of them destroying their newly bought weapon in hopes it will spread like an STD ❤. I shutter to think how much privately bought ammo will be donated to local PD like clothes to a goodwill.

So who are these people and what do they believe? Did they buy guns because they didn't like the lawlessness they saw during riots last year? Cops not responding/being told to stand down? Are they now politically motivated to protect their right to self-defense and therefore gun ownership? Some probably are, but many are probably not. How many of these people were Democrat voters and will continue to be? I have three Democrat acquaintances who have recently expressed interest in learning to use a handgun and buying one. One of them is a Cal-Berkely graduate and is a pretty rabid left-wing zealot. One even wants a carry permit. Meanwhile they all voted Dem straight down the ticket and apparently plan to continue doing so. Is there a chance their views/opinions can be changed? Do they simply not fully understand the issues? Or are they afraid they need to prepare for a perceived Proud Boys assault or something? I don't understand their mindset or motivation, but all three want me to take them to the range. What am I to do? Donate my ammo to teach them to shoot? My standing offer with the Cal guy is that we will go when he can get 200 rounds of factory 9mm. I'm not sure how hard he has searched, but he hasn't found any. On one hand, I wonder if a couple range trips can make a difference and "expand the tent." On the other hand, I fear it is just a waste of ammo.

Garbage in, garbage out In computer science, garbage in, garbage out is the concept that flawed, or nonsense input data produces nonsense output or "garbage". The principle also applies more generally to all analysis and logic, in that arguments are unsound if their premises are flawed. This is what I have feared for most of my adult life. The commies will tell the masses what is right and wrong, the masses will believe it.

4 guys, 12 beers & knocking on a couple of farmers doors to beg the use of a tractor with a front loader!

Guys I've been out of the loop for five years getting my little one raised up. Now that she's in school I figured it was time to dust off an old Wheel or get a new one! Go get a membership a the range and start up some IDPA fun. I see "everyone" talking about the resurgence of the revolver, and how everyone loves them now. What I guess they don't love is gear and grips!!! Many of the grip makers are out of business or going that way. Seems like comp tac, ready tactical and other kydex makers have all but abandoned making holsters and speedload/moon clip holders. We've got some strong holds like Speedbeez, Altamont and Eagle, but choices are getting slimmer and slimmer. Who's stepping up on the wheel gun side and how long before there really isn't any choices for us out there? BTW, if you're keeping score I've got a Smith M21 44 special headed my way with a Kramer Paddle holster, versacarry belt, pouches from deSantis and Safariland Comp I speedloaders.

Desert Eagle in 50AE, brushed chrome finish with picatinny rail on the top of the barrel. Have no earthly way to justify the purchase other than to have fun off the back porch and to see what happens when it hits the 50 yard gong. Purchased it on Gunbrokers so it will take a week or so to get here. No hurry as I have zero components for it, not even reloading dies. Will take me a few months to gather brass, dies, and bullets as everywhere is out of stock. I double dare the local racoons or skunks to make them self visible around my house this coming spring. Figure all I need to do is get within a few feet and the shock alone will kill em, lol. Empty a mag or two into the ground should take care of the moles. Hope to add a red dot and try it out when deer hunting next season. I'll try to remember to update this post when I finally get a chance to shoot it.

Everybody started somewhere, we've all been there. Be somewhat patient, these shortages come and go, despite what all the gloom and doom crowd will tell you. Just don't be like so many and assume that you can always get what you want when you want when the inevitable happens, and once again ammo becomes cheap and plentiful. When that happens, buy up what you can afford when you can, gradually build up your supplies in whatever calibers you own. Come over to the dark side, and embrace your inner hoarder ...

Actually there is a lot of factual error, but its inter-dispersed with other opinions rooted in some factual basis for him give to give it the appearance of not being complete left rhetoric . Its the lefts argument against the extreme rights take. He IS hardcore left guy, using partial facts as smoke and mirrors to get guys to say, hey he’s sounds like he has a lot of info and facts do thru dont question the BS opinion. I saw a number of non facts or lies to support his Position, that non gun people wouldn’t know better. I assumed Gun folks would, but maybe not. Off the top of my head, I’ll pick two. 1. Gun nuts buy 6920 Colts since you can drop in an auto sear. Complete BS. The pocket is not machine for a mil spec auto sear, and the web prevents a DIAS. 2. the CA AK based mass shooter would have been stopped because you can’t buy an AK47 variant in CA. Complete BS. You can get them all day long provided you make it featureless. Its really unfortunate that this can’t be seen thru more easily, worse that he has a platform. But sadly, he is high functioning and most of the voting public isn’t. Easy pickin’s

Emilia Clarke, Woody Harrelson, and Darth Maul make it watchable. Prove me wrong.

I think the NY AG will handle that for him based on their own corrupt actions.

Impressive. Congratulations!

I suppose I’m a bit more optimistic. I believe there are far too many pressing issues to deal with besides 2A issues. Just like with previous administrations, I believe this administration will only concern itself with gun bans if a gun owner goes out and shoots up a building full of innocents. They have to deal with Covid, the economy, mending relationships with our allies, infrastructure, walking Iran back on nukes, Taiwan and a boatload of other issues. I don’t believe 2A issues will be on the radar unless we put them on the radar. I’m not a single issue voter. When I vote my biggest concern isn’t the government taking our guns.

Franklin Co.

That is one heck of a pig. What general area was this?

https://www.zdziarski.com/blog/?p=6094 This is the most likely path

I have a double stack and a single stack version plus their .223 loader. Love all 3. I told a friend to buy the the double stack version and they got talked into something else at a local gun shop. Next time they came over to show what they bought and do some shooting I handed them my UpLuLa and told them to compare loading their magazines. They went home and ordered a UpLuLa.

That is how I use FB. I didnt want the app on my phone.

Those are opinions.

StRay I am in the same frame of mind as you and live in the Franklin area. I am new here and just started posting. When you or others feel I have been vetted. I would be interested in joining a network of like minded friends. Eric

No one "deems" it false. It's false. Spreading disinformation and misinformation is wrong. Unfortunately it seems a huge portion of our population cannot identify either. Are these statements true or false, Daniel?: No one needs a high capacity magazine. Weapons of war don't belong on our streets. The Second Amendment was written when people carried muskets. No one needs an assault rifle to hunt. An AR-15 was designed to kill lots of people quickly. Etc., etc., ad nauseam.... I would consider any of those "spreading disinformation." You might think all are chiseled in stone. My point, as I really believe you understand, is that I do not want anyone arbitrating the truth for me. I don't think you do, either.

I must not be listening enough, but I have yet to hear much from NPR that leans even one degree right of center.

I'll say this, if I'm wrong in my previous post, and they actually do pass sweeping gun control, then the events at the Capitol will look minor compared to what I imagine will happen. I'll be praying for peace.

Hi I’m going to be honest, I have enough going on in my personal life to not really worry so much about what happened in Washington. I understand people are angry but there is no excuse for what those idiots did at the capital building. My dad was in the hospital with Covid he’s home now and still having a hard time. My mother has not been eating well and not doing well at all either. On top of that my wife just had a replacement hip surgery done, she’s doing pretty good with it, I am really amazed. So what happens in Washington with those idiots , I have a hard time worrying about it. I do believe things will work out for the better in the long run. As soon as the socialist Democrats try to implement any of their policies I’m sure they will be shot down in due time.

Reply to the OP, as much as they can get for it. Unfortunately that is the way it works. If one thinks a box of 50 9mm fmj's are worth $50 and someone else thinks they are worth $100, the first guy with the $50 isn't going to have any ammo until he coughs up enough cash to outbid the guy with $100.

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