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I wasn't aware the average TSA "agent" could pronounce sequester.

Best way to deal with gougers is to refuse to pay their prices. Last gunshow I went to, I'm pretty sure I pissed off a few vendors. Now, typically I'm not a confrontationalist and I made it a point to not SAY a word but when flipping over price tags I can't stifle a good laugh and I'm not going to try. If you wanna sell a base model AR for $1500 go for it, it's a free country. I'm also free to laugh at you for it. If they wanna buy up the market and sit on it. Let them. When they get hung with a load of goods, that'll be the best pay back ever.

  I have a better idea. Disband the IRS and take those agents and put them on the border. It works out to 16 agents per mile. Surely we can protect the border with an agent every 100 yards. And that is on both borders.   Dolomite

Oh dude, don't be ridiculous! Who would buy outdated TIE fighters since the Mandalorians tooled up Mandalmotors and started producing the Kom'rk class fighter. I'd rather have an old Basilisk war droid as a stupid TIE. Ion propulsion sucks.

Probably further proof that I am a bit twisted but I laughed when they backed up for dudes backpack... Mark

as some of you know, last year i broke my neck last year. i hope to continue in the action shooting sports hoping for my 1st try in May. any way Blade-Tech told me to try there TMMS and see what i thought. i already had the black ice holster and have it working nicely. still need need a idea for placing mag pouches. the first pic the female piece is mounted to the chair and the male is on the holster. and yes i have some extra weight on

Why Mac, you can just look in the Classifieds here and tell that isn't happening :squint:

Twnkies

I'll say to those who gouge, karma is a &itch.

Once again, these are all Army contracts, and yes, you can get the purchase orders/contracts for every last MRAP that has rolled off the line into gov hands. Congress was screaming about this in 2007 when they were trying to get these into Iraq with the quickness. DHS can't just purchase 1.4 billion in armored vehicles and shuffle that away somehow, that isn't how contracts work. There would be such a paper trail that any of the dozens of watchdog agencies who do this for a living would catch in a heartbeat. Unless, of course, this is a giant conspiracy involving thousands of Americans who have all conspired together to keep this secret, this whole thing isn't true. The closest thing to truth would be the grants that DHS was offering state and local LEAs to acquire similar armored vehicles.

Still trying to find a source of this information other than some guy's blog. I could say the DHS just bought 2,700 Tie Fighters but it doesn't make it true and it doesn't mean DHS is building a Death Star.

I had to buy my own gun from a Department approved list. Go to that; people take better care of stuff when they have to pay for it.

I personally don't care about vandy as a whole. What is missing in today's society is GOD and his laws. We have taken him out of everything in this country IT NEEDS TO STOP unless we (meaning this country) wants to be another Sodom and Gomorrah

Why does the KPD need 6 37 mm grenade launchers???  You east TN people must be really dangerous!!!  I wonder why they didn't sell the ammo on gunbroker.

"Documents reveal more about KPD switch in weapons - Pistol maker Glock surprised by complaints By Don Jacobs Sunday, March 3, 2013   When Knoxville Police Chief David Rausch announced in late January that the department would no longer use the .40-caliber Glock pistol that officers have carried since 2002, he didn’t mention any problems with the gun. Rausch said the replacement gun, a .45-caliber Sig Sauer, had more stopping power than the .40-calibers. Testing among officers also revealed they were more accurate using the Sig Sauer, he said. The chief said the switch was a sound financial decision because the life of a Glock was four years, while the Sig Sauer was good for 10 years. Although the Sig Sauer gun cost nearly twice as much as the Glock version, Rausch said the transition was a wise move. City documents, however, indicate other factors were at work — reasons Rausch did not address at that news conference. A letter from the city to Glock states that triggers were freezing on the guns after they were given to officers and lock pins that hold the 34 parts of the gun together were failing. KPD today won’t discuss the gun switch. The city’s claims of faulty weapons surprised Glock, which supplies more than 72 percent of all law enforcement agencies in the nation with guns. A representative said no other department has reported problems with the weapon. A poll of other departments using the .40-caliber Glock revealed no other agency has encountered problems with the gun as alleged by KPD. KPD spokesman Darrell DeBusk refused to say why the alleged performance problems were withheld from the public. “We’re not going to discuss the issues with the Glocks,” he said. “I’ll have to refer you to (Deputy Law Department Director) Ron Mills with any questions about the Glocks.” The Police Department is obtaining 225 of Sig Sauer’s .45-caliber P220R pistols, a dozen 1911 Sig Sauer handguns and training for 10 officers as armorers. In exchange, the Police Department is giving $13,500 cash, 630 .40-caliber Glocks, 53 12-gauge shotguns, four .22-caliber rifles, 14 submachine guns, six 37mm launchers, various gun parts and 300,000 rounds of new ammunition. Faulty firepower? Rausch did note performance concerns about the Glocks in an email Jan. 18 to individual members of Knoxville City Council. Because Rausch sent the email to individual members of council and not to the council as a whole, the email was not included in the meeting packet disseminated to members of council and the media. The email was not made part of the official record of the council meeting. The News Sentinel obtained the email Feb. 20 from the Police Department. In the email, Rausch told council members the Glock handgun “is replaced about every three years.” Rausch explained in his email the benefits of a more powerful weapon and the differences in how a Glock and a Sig Sauer operate. And he explained why his department began seeking another weapon. “In a shipment of what is now called the Next gen Glock, we received 10 weapons that would not fire properly new out of the box,” Rausch wrote. “This started our process of looking at alternatives as we cannot have our officers with weapons that may or may not function when they need them.” A News Sentinel article from January about KPD’s transition from the Glock caught the attention of law enforcement administrators across the nation. Administrators were concerned about Rausch’s statement that the Glock’s service life is four years. That statement prompted a wave of phone calls to Glock headquarters in Smyrna, Ga., from police agencies wondering about the life of their weapons, according to Carlos Guevara, vice president and general counsel for Glock USA. “When a large metropolitan police department makes that kind of statement, it carried some weight,” Guevara said. Guevara said Glock officials assured law enforcement agencies that “the gun will continue to work after five years.” Maker seeks answers Guevara on Jan. 28 sent a letter to Knoxville Mayor Madeline Rogero complaining about Rausch’s “false and misleading information” disseminated to the public. “The primary issue for us was the service life of the weapon,” Guevara said last week in an interview. “That was something we wanted to clarify. We warrant the piece for much longer.” Guevara’s letter prompted a response Feb. 4 from Mills, the deputy law director, who stated the four-year service life figure came from Glock’s local representative. The local Glock representative is Craig’s Firearm Supply Police Distributors, 8761 Chapman Highway. “If the information is incorrect, your problem lies somewhere other than with the Knoxville Police Department,” Mills wrote. Mills also outlined in the letter performance issues with the .40-caliber Glock. “Over the past two years, KPD has experienced repeated problems with locking pins breaking or falling out of these weapons, and four brand new handguns were found to have extremely stiff triggers,” Mills wrote. “After firing, these weapons froze up completely and could not be fired. All told, at least thirteen new GLOCK weapons out of approximately forty issued to KPD officers over the past two years failed shortly after issuance.” Mills wrote that a Police Department trainer saw a locking pin break on a Glock used by an officer from another agency at KPD’s firing range. “This is information that was not provided to the media, but could have been,” Mills wrote. ‘No further statements’ DeBusk said there is no documentation of the alleged Glock performance issues raised by Rausch and Mills. “All the conversations were over the phone or in person to make them aware of the issues, so there’s no written correspondence,” he said. Asked if the locking pin and trigger freeze issues were discussed with other officers in the department to alert them of potential problems, DeBusk refused to respond. Mills responded last week to a list of questions submitted regarding the Glocks and why the performance issues were kept from the public. “We have had a full and fair opportunity to share our concerns and issues related to our experience with representatives from Glock,” Mills wrote in an email. “We have agreed that the best course of action for both parties is to discontinue any further airing of concerns or grievances. Consequently, the City will be making no further statements or comments on this matter.” Mills said he has spoken to a Glock representative by telephone since his Feb. 4 letter, but he declined to divulge details of the discussion. Glock’s Guevara said his company was never informed of problems noted by the Police Department. “This was news to us,” Guevara said. Guevara said that if a department has a problem, a law enforcement risk manager is dispatched to correct any issues. “We send a company representative to the agency to find out about the problem. But we didn’t get that opportunity,” he said. In addition, Guevara said people at Craig’s Firearm Supply Police Distributor denied making any statements about the three- or four-year service life of the .40-caliber Glock. A representative of Craig’s Firearm Supply Police Distributor referred questions to the Glock national office. The Gen4 Glock, Guevara said, has been on the market since late 2009. “We don’t have any other agencies reporting this problem,” Guevara said. “Unless it’s reported, there’s no way to go looking for what happened.” Departments: no objections Public information officers for the Blount County Sheriff’s Office and the Metropolitan Nashville Police Department, both of which use the .40-caliber Glock, reported no performance issues with the weapons. Bob Bossey, executive director of the International Association of Law Enforcement Firearms Instructors, based in New Hampshire, said his organization represents 13,000 instructors in law enforcement, the military and corrections. “We haven’t had anybody bring that to our attention.” Bossey said of performance issues alleged by the Police Department. “There’s a lot of Glocks out there. They’re a good, quality weapon.” The executive director of the Tennessee Sheriffs’ Association, Terry Ashe, said he’s “not heard any complaint about the Glocks.” Ashe said he would be alarmed if he experienced the failure rate noted by the Police Department. “We’d be flagging it and sending out emails if that was the case,” he said. The Knox County Sheriff’s Office has been using the .40-caliber Glock since 2008 and has had no problems, according to Chief Robert Spangler, who oversees the agency’s training division. Spangler said he’s never been told of a service life for the firearms. The Police Department’s decision to switch to another gun manufacturer, Spangler said, is no different from one agency using the Chevrolet Caprice while another organization opts for the Dodge Charger. “It’s a personal choice and as long as the public is served, what does it matter?” he said. “I’ve been partial to the Glock because it’s always done what we wanted it to do,” Spangler said. “The thought of any officer pulling out a weapon and it malfunctions, that’s my worst nightmare. You want to give the officers tools they need to get home safely.”" http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2013/mar/03/documents-reveal-more-about-kpd-switch-in/?print=1

I never cared for letting a slide ride home on an empty chamber.  I realize this will probably do little damage do the gun, if any, but I am sure it is not good for the gun.  I reference Rightwingers explanation above.  As such, I do not practice it, and I suggest to my friends that they do not either.   All that being said, you could probably do it a million times and a Glock would be ok, but I still do not want to do it.

What can brown do for me? Bring happiness and joy!

I only worry about it on my 1911. Don't think it'll hurt the Glock.If it does, a monkey with a pin punch could fix it.

So let me ask this question. Who are the stupid ones, the people who are selling it for $100 a box or those of us who have a bunch of 500ct boxes on hand who aren't selling it for $100 a box. I'll bet you when the price comes back down and it is readily available again there are going to be a bunch of us (me included) who say why the hell didn't I sell all this ammo when I could have doubled, tripled or quadrupled my money.

Poor babies!  I'd rather see Biteme have to fly tourist and get groped by the TSA.  They might find his gonads!

Grab your favorite beverage  and look at it for a while it will come to ya.     :2cents:

Marshall's in Knoxville.  It is near the hood on the east side of town.  My regular mechanic sent me there when the wifey's tranny died.  They quoted an exact price up front and did the work in the time they said they would.  They were very nice people.  All the cars go inside the building at night too.     http://knoxville.citysearch.com/profile/9417986/knoxville_tn/marshall_s_transmissions.html

Word of advice. If you have already bought a holster for what you will carry strap that baby on and break it in / get used to it. It really helps with the transition from not carrying to carrying. Especially if you carry IWB.   Edit: Just though I should clarify you will not carry the gun when doing this haha. :pleased:

What a shame. Gonna be a whole lot more just like him eventually.

All in all, I thought last night's episode was one of the best in a while.  There were a couple of points (most of which have already been mentioned) that bothered me, though - and I think I have resolved a couple of them for myself.   1.  The whole, "I know about those guns because I signed the permits," thing.  He wasn't talking about carry permits (I think that Georgia does still have local Sheriffs grant carry permits.)  Instead, he was talking about permits to own the guns and keep them in their place of business.  I am pretty sure that, like Tennessee, there is no such permit and none required.   How I resolved it for myself:  I seem to recall Kirkman stating - maybe on one of the Talking Dead segments - that this show takes place in a reality where there have never been zombie movies, books, etc.  That is why no one calls them 'zombies'.  That being the case, I guess that this alternate reality Georgia could have contracted some of the diseased gun laws that one would expect to find in Illinois, New Jersey, New York, etc.   2.  Carl dropped the picture close to the door and the zombies were right on top of it yet Michonne just walked right in and got it:   How I resolved it for myself:  Michonne told Carl to stay right there, right by the door.  In fact, Carl leaned against the outside of the door.  Therefore, all the zombies were paying attention to him (basically, he acted as bait) while Michonne slipped in, used her sword to reach in and drag the picture out, and slipped back out.  Pretty shaky explanation but its the best I've got.   3.  The hiker had survived for a year or so, already.  Not only had he survived but he actually looked relatively clean, healthy and well fed.  Then he just happened to pick the day Rick et al. encountered him to get killed.  Not only that but he got killed on a highway where it would have been difficult for slow moving walkers to have just slipped up on him.   How I resolved it for myself:  Judging by his clean, fed and relatively well rested appearance, I don't think the hiker had been on his own or on the road for very long.  I think he had been part of a group and/or at the very least had been in a settled location until just recently.  Maybe his location was overrun and (if he had a group with him) the rest of his group was killed.  Maybe he was hiding out solo and finally ran out of food so had to move. He certainly didn't have sense enough not to run around yelling (best way to attract zombies) which further makes me believe he has been 'sheltered' from the undead up to this point.   Whatever the case, I agree that he came across as someone who would be more a liability than a help.     My favorite dialogue exchange of the night (maybe slightly paraphrased):   Rick:  So we're eating his food?   Michonne: The mat said, "Welcome."

Hey. You. Yes, you. The idiots who voted this clown in. Twice, no less. Where's that tax free Utopia now.    Your food bills are skyrocketing. Your gas is going ballistic. Your blessed Green Power energy program sucks huge losses and can't even get off the ground. Obama care is going to take your life savings to keep you visiting a doctor. If you can find one who'll take new patients in on the program. Hidden taxes that were run thru without a single word now coming to light.    What's it going to take to convince you? You screwed the pooch big time now. Maybe for the last time.

Hmmm....could we just tie one to a chair every hundred yards or so? Kinda use them for bait?.....lol

  Are they made by SIG?

I figured on the low-end at $0.40 per round that comes to $120,000 worth of ammo. Add in the cash and you're at $133,500 or about $563 per gun. That's before valuing up the 630 .40-caliber Glocks, 53 12-gauge shotguns, four .22-caliber rifles, 14 submachine guns, six 37mm launchers, various gun parts   Someone got raped on this deal. Call the poli...oh...nevermind.   I'd like to think there's someone in the city's internal audit department that should be looking into this deal.

Yet it is still sold at retail for $20 a brick. Sometimes i get really annoyed by greedy people.

I've shot discolored and nickel plated with no problems.

And you need to be able to launch tear gas and burn down houses (with people in them).  Can't let ATF and FBI have all the fun!   Glad to see the launchers and sub-guns gone, but they'll just go to another "agency".

I saw it also. It sucks that those went through the rough cause I really wanan get one to plink with. But not at that price lol

I gave away over a 1200 rds in the last couple of weeks to several of fellas, I had no idea I that I was throwing away 300 bucks, don't tell the wife...shhhhhhh..... 

Of course I recall. That was the Ca Nick, deprived of nutrients from eating granola and tofu. The Tn Nick feasts upon country fried steak samiches and drinks country gravy by the quart.

  Anyone claiming Glocks are not at the forefront of reliability and durability certainly has no credence in determining armament requirements for any department.   And yeah, let's throw in some 1911's, that need a helluva lot more TLC than a Glock for "reliability".   This is somebody's vanity project at the least, but probably a scam to make some money for someone, maybe as Dol has suggested.   - OS

  Re-read my sig for agreement.   - OS

  Because a goodly portion of them are not here to be "members."   Just here for the sales outlet it gives them to gouge prices on items mostly needed by people here.

There are better buys than money to get scrap metal; if you pay attention you can even find it free for the price of picking it up and hauling it off.

That's a bargain when compared to the $155 per 550, like someone has posted on here.

  Taxpayers are getting raped on the deal.

I'm kinda like the great Jim Crow in that great Disney production "Dumbo"....  "Ive seen a backporch swing, heard a diamond ring, but i aint never seen an elephant fly (....nor a glock fail....)!!..".   My BS meter is off the scale on this one.   Follow the money.  There aint nothin new under the sun.   leroy

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I hope that all those conservatives that stayed home on election day because they just "didn't like Romney"  are happy now.  He wasn't my first choice either, but I did at least understand the importance of removing Obama from office at all costs, then regrouping in 2016.  The Left has decided they are an unstoppable machine.  People......the midterm elections are gonna mean the life or death of America as we know it.

Morning update on Sheriff's Forum: Last night's forum was opend with invocation and pledge of allegiance, then a very informative talk by Publius Huldah on Constitutional issues vs. federal and state politics. This was followed by the sheriffs of White, Dekalb, and Cumberland counties; all supportive of the right to keep and bear arms. Last was Mae Beavers, with details on the derailment of SB 250. (I think Jimmy Naifeh is alive and well inside the head of Sen Kelsey.) Lou Ann Zelnick was there, and spoke from the audience. Other notables present but not speaking were Rep. John Mark Windle and Randy York. I spoke with both, and probably missed a golden opportunity (with the latter) to give some negative feedback to the AG's office. They both made some interesting off the cuff comments while Mrs. Beavers was speaking, regarding poilitical maneuvers and judicial ethics. My biggest concern of the night: only a few young people were there. We must do a much better job of involving our children and grandchildren, If we're to have any hope of winning this thing.

22 Soldiers a day from redeploying units?  You have a firm source for that stat?  Because I'm calling BS.  That's no where close to reality.....as a matter of fact, in the entire military last year you're looking at 349.   Its a big military.   People kill themselves for a variety of reasons.  Same with the rest of America.  According to NIMH, you're looking at 11 out of 100k.  Eleven out of One Hundred Thousand.    I'd argue that the suicide hype is just that - a lot of hype.  Is it a problem?  Sure, just like murder and texting while driving are problems.  Media and politicians are blowing it out of proportion.....and the question is why?  One answer could be they want to take guns away from the people that use(d) them...

Jay:_____________   Just happended to think of somethin else ALA Gun Control Act of 1968.   There was some sentiment in the country for this one.  .....The Kennedys, MLK......  I see no sentiment among most people for gun control now.  Now, you have individual states actually expanding gun rights (....or, more correctly, restoring gun rights....).  Even the "Snozz" Haslam is sayin that "... state officials are monitoring the federal legislative scene closely to see that the gun rights of Tennesseeans are not infringed...".   That simply was not going on in the 60's.  I firmly believe that more and people are discovering on their own exactly what the Second Amendment is really about.  I count that a good thing.    As to the Republican thing; ...i see them (...for the most part...) as just another bunch of sons and daughters of satan that want to tell you and me what we can do, what we can have, and how much money we can keep.  That is exactly what has made me a radical isolationist libertarian.  I dont like any of 'em.   Keep your powder dry.   leroy

I bought one just ilke that on Ebay for $15.53 shipped. Works great. http://www.ebay.com/itm/360566583233?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649 I also bought one that mounts in line with the rail rather than an offset.   Dolomite

By this logic, we should declare the general populous crazy for continuing to elect these idiots!

I think DA revolvers are easy for women to learn the mechanics of but most can't shoot them accurately and hate the recoil.