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Order has been placed, payment has been sent, knife handles are on the way to be anodized, there are a total of 53 knives that were ordered and all are spoken for, I would like to Thank each and every one of you for your orders, I will update this thread whenever there is news

You should just pay for a benefactor membership here and sell it in the classifieds.  Virtually no worries about getting screwed over as the folks here are monitored and generally great folks to deal with.  Plus you are supporting the forum.  Well worth the money.

I agree that more/better training is needed.     There should have been two dead thugs instead of just one. Better training could remedy that.

I mean a lot.... A whole lot....    Sorry, i've been away so long. Just the Girlfriend and the issues of selling a house have taken my mind away from being on this site as much as I would have liked.   I finally sold my house back in the second week of March. Was sad to see it go but it had to happen. Didn't get what i was asking, but i didn't break even either or go in the hole on the sale, so I'm ok.   And it will be 2 weeks this coming saturday that i'm officially engaged to the love of my life.( going to be a while to get used to going from calling her the "girlfriend" to the "fiancee".  Great thing is, she already has her HCP and i took her out to shoot my AR last weekend( she loves it). I don't know if it is a good thing or a bad thing though.   So a lot has happened, wedding date isn't set yet, but it will be sometime summer of 2015.

Is this a trick question? ;)

  A lot of 'charities' take subsidies from the government. Guess where the government gets the money for those subsidies? That's right, us!    The problem I have with that is that I don't have a choice as to how much I give or where it goes. In my perfect world, the government would hand out zero subsidies and I could keep my money to give as I see fit. That's how it should be. Taking taxpayer money just to redistribute it, in my mind, leaves less money in the hands of citizens who could and would otherwise use it for good things, like stimulating the economy or giving to charities.   Plus, if the charities knew they had to work harder to get citizen's money instead of from the government, maybe they would use it more efficiently.

So now we wait for the inevitable "is it too late to get in?" post.  :rofl:

  And why does legally owning and carrying firearms automatically turn us into bloodthirsty vigilantes, to hear the media tell it, but people who are illegally carrying firearms and using them in criminal activities are often presented as 'good kids who wouldn't hurt a fly' and 'victims of circumstance'?  My favorite is, "He just fell in with the wrong people."  Well, all the other folks in his group would probably say the same thing - meaning sooner or later some of them didn't 'fall in' with the wrong people but, instead, are the 'wrong people'.  To me, someone who walks into a restaurant and points a gun at the customers and staff without provocation is one of the 'wrong people' no matter how deep his family shoves their heads in the sand in claiming he was a 'good boy.'       Sure, your family might see your best behavior while your friends and peers see your worst.  Still, I would warrant that there are few among us whose 'worst' behavior meant armed robbery and the like.  Maybe some stupid pranks or even some mildly delinquent behavior, sure, but threatening strangers with a firearm and armed robbery go a ways beyond 'youthful indescretion'.  Even if the family really had no idea that the teen would be capable of such a thing, the very fact that he was committing this crime in the first place should be enough to illustrate for the family that their perspective of the kid was not the truth.  This incident, alone, should illustrate for them that he wasn't the 'good boy' they thought he was.   Of course, the family isn't willing to admit that he might not be the perfect, little gentleman they claim:       I hate statements like that.  Putting your underwear on backward by mistake is a 'mistake'.  Mistakenly picking up the wrong set of keys on your way out the door is a 'mistake'.  Walking out of a restaurant without paying because you really, truly (but mistakenly) forgot that you hadn't already paid is a mistake.  Walking into a business with an illegally possessed, loaded firearm, terrorizing the staff and customers and attempting to commit armed robbery is not a damn mistake.  You don't mistakenly walk into a restaurant waving a gun around and threatening people.  The only 'mistake' he made was in the victim selection process.  There is no, "Oops - where did this gun come from?  I didn't mean for all you folks to be down on the floor," here.  He did it on purpose and he died for it.  No further details (or CCW training) needed.

For the umpteenth time...Thank You, for all the time and effort you put into this deal. Sure you may have personally benefitted from it; but that's the way of life.   You work at something...you reap the benefits.

The rest of the Williams family is obviously just as stupid as Dante.

My condolences to the family, but they need to get their heads out of their asses. This is above and beyond "out of character behavior". It would be "out of character" for me to show up at work tomorrow hungover. When you engage in life threatening behavior you can't cry foul when your life is threatened in response. Trying to make someone pay financially for justifiably defending themselves is just nothing more than opportunistic greed. If they really wanted to make a positive difference in the community they should focus on why "a good 'respectful' kid" would resort to armed robbery and not on disarming the people said kid is terrorizing.

That's 7 in about 2 hours. Willis, you've created a monster/s!

One Llama turns to another Llama and says "Wanna go on a picnic? Alpaca lunch !  "      :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:

Thanks.....even if I don't see turkeys, maybe the squirrels will be out.  Day 1 of Spring Tree Rat......that reminds me.....I better get ready to make some dumplins'.

Just wait until people see these knives, they will beg you to sell them

:)

Guys, I assure you all that like myself after getting one Pro Tech, you will become addicted, therefore we will do as many runs in the future as long as there is enough interest Pro Tech is by far the Best company that I have ever dealt with, it makes me very proud to support a Great American company like them so I am more than happy to do this for all of us!

One of my grand sons got busted for possession of drugs for Resale 3 weeks ago. He called me to see about getting him an attorney and a bondsman to get him out of jail. He got out of jail after he went up in front of the judge and the judge appointed him a  public defender. I found out he called his father first and his father(my Son) told him the same thing I did. I have spoke with his public defender and the judge in the county because i know them both. This his first arrest and I asked the judge and public defender to negotiate a plea bargain that will keep him out of jail but sentence him to 5 to 10 years and put him on a ten year probation and make it very clear to him that if he even sneezes and breaks a law he does the 5 to 10 for Probation violation. His father and I both told him he was hanging with the wrong people and it went in one ear and out the other. The judge is also going to inform him that he can violate if he is caught up in any crime that he could be guilty by association which would violate his probation. If his father and I cannot keep hm from associating with trash maybe the judge can. I have a policy I live by and have for most of my adult life and that is,  " No mercy for self inflicted injuries" and by not learning by your mistakes and repeating them is self inflicted.............jmho 

Family demands more training so that victims of armed robbery will be more compliant with the criminal? You've got to be kidding me

We were all teens once, and I have raised three teens of my own. I can assure that my family got my best behavior and my friends knew the worst of me. Had I gotten into trouble or killed for the things that my family knew nothing about, they would have said the same things about me. "Those actions were out of character for sweet, angelic, God fearing and hard working student LINKS2K", and from their perspective, they would have been telling the truth. I'm fortunate to have lived several decades beyond the ignorance of my youth. I am also glad that I recognize that good families can produce bad kids. The family didn't plan the robbery. The young man got what he paid for.

  First Congrats.   Second, be careful upgrading Girl Friend 1.1 to Wife 2.0.   The new version does normally have a few undiscovered bugs included that were never noticed in Girl Friend 1.1.

I've basically stopped shooting esp rimfire.    I can shoot 9mm reloads for what .04-.07 per round, so I just cant justify .10-.11/round for .22lr.

If you have any reason to believe someone is already in your house (in which case you failed to have adequate security measures in place), you immediately get yourself and any loved ones to the safest place possible (such as a barricaded locked room behind proper cover), and then arm any adults that are properly trained / equipped, and then call 911. Inform them of your address, describe the situation (including location / description of all family members, and who is armed), and you wait on the phone while guarding your safe room entrance(s). You don't go searching the house looking for trouble, and you don't leave family members unprotected. You also don't go outside or move through the house unless you can establish it is safe to do so, as additional or unknown threats may be waiting. If a threat emerges or advances near your safe room, you call out loudly that you are armed and will shoot to defend yourself if needed, ordering them to leave immediately, and that police are on the way. If the threat persists or escalates then you do only what is necessary to defend your lives, not to protect property or chase them out or advance on them or capture them.

Hey folks,   Freedom Munitions is offering $5 shipping till the 11th. Prices are good too.   http://www.freedommunitions.com/#&panel1-3    

Picked up a few new ones. Hopefully they are keepers.

I will check into that

Yes. Here is a good load you can carry and practice with: http://www.doubletapammo.net/index.php?route=product/product&path=303_340&product_id=236 100gr fmj with flash suppressed powder at ~1000 fps... That'll reach vitals. Most .380 hollow points won't. I got to try some of this when it came out... Its stout and feeds reliably. I would carry this in a .380 if I had one.

I have a Llama and used to own a P11. The Keltec is a little rough, but at least it will work. My Llama has more jam than Rosie O'Donnell's toes. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

A. Keltec B. llama C. Both of the above D. None of the above Correct answer. D

You make good points. I have no problems with the shoot and I believe the the robber caused his own demise. My only point is that I don't think that the family should be condemned because a young man made a stupid life ending decision. They are simply speaking about the character that the robber displayed to them. If it were my son, I would be shocked and defensive also, but I would also have to come to terms that I really didn't know my son. Have a good day!

Marriage is a fine institution...that is, if you like living in an institution.   Congrats!   Prayers for you, the job, the engagement; and TGO will be here when you get back.

Yeah the Sprint looks like a handy little size. That Godfather is sexy though! I just started a monthly knife fund in my budget to save for the next one haha. I don't even have the first one yet and I'm hooked!

I have a Smith and Wesson J-Frame - a 642. It is one of the airweight models and is DAO as the hammer is completely enclosed (because hammers can snag when pocket carried.) It is not fun to shoot - especially with +P rounds - and I would be ashamed for anyone to see my results when trying to hit a bullseye target from any, real distance. That said, the 642 is my most often carried handgun. I am confident that I could use it to defend my life at 'typical' SD distances. It fits in the right, front pocket of most pairs of pants or shorts I own and when I am wearing jeans with a 'watch pocket', the speed strip I cut down (to hold five rounds instead of six so it is shorter - the j-frame only holds five, anyhow) will slide right in that watch pocket. I have dry-fired a couple of LCRs and have to say that they have an amazingly smooth, nice DAO trigger. I don't know what the recoil is like but they have a little 'cushion' built into the grips (right about where the web of the hand hits) which is supposed to help absorb some of the recoil and make firing them more pleasant. I have been told by folks who own them that the cushion does work. I might have chosen one of them instead of my 642 but I am just not sold on polymer for a revolver. If they made a lightweight, metal version I'd be sorely tempted. I also have a P3AT (.380 semiauto) that makes a good pocket gun. In fact, before I got the 642 it was probably my most often carried. The reason I prefer the 642 is that, in my mind, when you get down to truly small guns but are still trying to run a decently powered cartridge I think semis in that category are really kind of pushing the envelope - and walking the fine edge of functionality. The little semiautos also can be very ammo picky - which is not to say that all of them are but such is more likely than with a larger semiauto and a whole lot more likely than with a revolver. In the interest of full disclosure, I will say that I like revolvers better, in general. Even if that were not the case, I think that with really small/light guns I would still trust wheelguns a whole lot more. Of course, that is simply my opinion. On the other side, I will say that I wouldn't give up the P3AT, either, because there are occasions - although rare - where even the 642 won't conceal very well. Due to its very thin, flat nature the P3AT can usually hide even in those situations. Those small guns are also nice when you want to belt carry but don't want to have to wear a cover garment, etc. Some folks would say, "If I am going to belt carry then it is going to be a bigger gun." I see their point but the thing is such small guns can be worn OWB and hide pretty well under nothing more than a loose t-shirt or polo type shirt - especially in this day where people have cell phones, Ipods, etc. causing bulges on their belts under their shirts. I don't like having a bunch of stuff in my pockets and, since I won't put anything else in a pocket that has a gun in it, pocket carry means putting everything else in my other pocket. Also, a gun carried in a pocket isn't always easily accessible - especially when sitting or driving/riding in a car. For that reason, I sometimes belt carry one of the little ones - although not all that often. You know, depending on your body style and with the right holster and attire, you could carry the GP-100 'casually' concealed. By 'casually' concealed, I mean something like OWB with a tucked in t-shirt and an unbuttoned, untucked shirt over the gun. That is the way I usually carry when I go for something besides pocket carry. You would probably want something that holds the gun high on your belt. I thought it would be impossible to carry my Ruger P-95 (a 9mm semiauto that is as 'overbuilt' as Ruger's revolvers) with any kind of concealment until I found that a belt slide holster that holds it with the trigger about even with my belt-line, fairly tight to my body and with a slight forward cant does make it possible. I haven't gotten around to making a holster for my GP-100, yet, but I am thinking something along the lines of a pancake holster that will hold it in a similar position as the belt slide holds my P95 would probably work best. Take a look at holsters like the Simply Rugged Sourdough Pancake to get a general idea of what I mean. I am certainly not suggesting that the GP-100 is the best choice for concealed carry - I am just saying that, with the right holster, it could be carried until you get something a little easier to carry or conceal. To illistrate my point, here are some pics from a few years ago when a guy on another forum was wondering if it would be possible to carry a similar gun concealed. At the time, I had a Taurus 66 (which I recently traded for a GP-100.) The 66 was pretty much as 'big' as the GP-100 but not quite as heavily built. Anyhow, I used these pics just to show what can be hidden under just an unbuttoned shirt. Notice that the 66 was in a FOBUS holster which really isn't the best for concealment and isn't really all that great a carry holster (I didn't carry it much except at home and in the woods so really didn't need a good concealment holster.) I do plan to carry the Gp-100 some - more often than I carried the Taurus, anyhow, so that is why I plan to make a better holster for it. Also, as you can see from the pic, I ain't exactly svelte so that probably helps me hide stuff. Also, this is in no way 'deep cover' but you would be surprised how little attention people pay. Also, a printed shirt - especially something like a Hawaiian shirt with a fairly 'busy' and somewhat irregular print/pattern - can be very thin and lightweight but still do a good job hiding things. This was what I had 'on me' at the time. As I said, I was going for the idea of showing how much could be hidden in that mode of dress so I went with the Taurus in not-that-great a holster. This was before I had the 642 and the P3AT is in the pic in my home-made pocket holster.

Lots of people will tease you about getting married, some actually believe it's a burden. I think marriage is awesome. Congrats, soak up this time, it'll be come and gone before you know it

Darth Black, ORSA shoots on the 3rd weekend also. This 3rd Saturday is our annual GSSF match. Considering a full 4th weekend of shooting......when I get back, it may be USPSA on 4th Saturday and Red, White, Blue falling steel match on 4th Sunday. If that happens, I will post accordingly.

Are they done yet?

I thought all Waffle Houses nationwide were "gun free". They were probably relying on that.

http://www.tn.gov/safety/    The official name of the state office is the Tennessee Department of Safety and Homeland Security. 

This story popped up on Bing's current stories bar at the bottom of their home page this morning.  A missing three year old boy found safe and sound - largely because his dog stayed by his side, apparently even using its own body to shield the boy from a thunderstorm.   http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/07/dog-protects-missing-boy-carson-urness_n_5282408.html   Good dog!

[quote name="LagerHead" post="1147121" timestamp="1399572952"]I don't trust people who don't like dogs. [/quote] I don't trust people my dog doesn't like.

Thank you for all of the fine replies. I should have made the house and persons in the house more clear. The reason I went through this scenario questions is because my daughters ex husband and father of his children and his wife went through this exact situation 3 nights ago about 9PM. They do live alone, just him and his new wife so no other family in house. He and wife both have HCP's and went through several other defense type classes.But still evidently didn't learn enough. They don't have much in the way of security beyond dead bolts and door locks and do like in an up scale neighborhood.His home is laid out like in scenario. He didn't handle any of it right beyond calling 911 right after retrieving his gun from the table in case he did need to defend himself. I am assuming that the perps had no clue they were even home. Both vehicles were in the garage with door closed. The basement area is almost totally sound proof from the rest of the house if door going down stairs is closed which it was. When he went up stairs to fetch them something to drink while watching a movie he heard a nose up stairs on 3rd level and this is where the stupidity kicked in. He retrieved his gun from the drawer dialed 911 and told the police his address and that he has an intruder in their home. He was told to find a secure location for him and his family and that patrol cars were in route. He made the decision to go up stairs and see who was up there with gun in hand. The way the 3rd level is laid out you can see into two rooms from top of stairs but not 3rd room or bathroom. he saw a young man going through the drawers search for valuables. His back was to the door and Ex did have a clear shot at intruders back and could have propped him but before he was able to do anything the lights went out for him. A second intruder eased up from behind and hit him in the back of the head with a trophy from one of the other rooms and down he went. His wife heard sirens and got up to go upstairs wondering where he was and she got knocked down by three perps at the bottom of the stair way as they were making their escape. They were all three of a Latino or Spanish descent. They ran from the home and climbed into a van with a forth person behind the wheel and made the great escape. The police arrived about 3 minutes later and called for any ambulance for the EX as he was still about half unconscious and was bleeding pretty bad from a large gash to the back of his head which required about 9 stitches. An alert neighbor that had been out walking his dog noticed the van and knew it was out of place in that neighborhood and had already gotten the license tag number and saw the guy behind the wheel when the other 3 came running and jumped in it and left. He was able to give a description of the driver and what the clothing was that the 3 running to the van were wearing. Van tag was from Kentucky.   I was caught back by what the lead investigator told my ex son in law should have done. He said my ex son in law could have legally shot the intruder in the back because of the location. Third floor which leaves no avenue of retreat by the perp except back past him putting his life in danger. He also said by shooting the first one it would have sent the other two into a retreat mode knowing there was an armed homeowner and he was shooting the intruders. I think the investigator gave him some bad information but that is what he told Ex and his wife. He said if there is an intruder in the home with no avenue of escape other than coming towards you, at that point your life is in danger and you can legally defend yourself and that al taking place on 3rd floor he could have popped the perp in the back. As of now I have not heard whether they have caught the bad guys or not. Thanks to all of you for your replies. He is looking at alarm systems with door tones that sound every time a door is opened in the house.   

Unless there is a loved one upstairs who I need to defend, I'm not going up there after a bad guy. I'll be behind cover on the ground floor waiting for the police to arrive or for the intruder to enter the funnel of the stairs, coming towards me.

I just read a story that CCI is adding capital equipment. In this economy manufacturers are leery of making capital equipment expenditures for a demand that will not stay high. Unless there is some political intervention; supplies will return. Now whether or not prices will return is anybody’s guess, if folks are willing to pay the price they won’t, unless stock is sitting on the shelves. The gun haters didn’t create this pricing and hording; gun owners did. The firearms market will have to straighten it out.

Thought you found a nice leather belt...laying next to a report card w F 's on it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 of course it ate my spelling.

If your just starting to carry you will soon buy a bunch of guns , one day you will have a favorite or 3. And a drawer full of holsters.

My wife recently took the HCP class with the LCR that I bought for her about 18 months ago.  The Smiths look nice, and the LCR is the only revolver I've ever owned so my opinion may not count for much but: The LCR has a smoother trigger, better stock grip, and the availability of a much better front sight.  To me, it's LCR hands down from a practical perspective.  

Pay to park was the final nail in the coffin for me.

I bit the bullet and went with a Street Glide Special in Charcoal Pearl.

My opinion is, in the end he was just being arrested for drunkenness, or whatever. If he struggles a little so what. If he wiggles free, so what. If he was present a violent danger to the officer and others, ok, but I have my doubts about that. I realize he could try to grab a weapon and all that. But he was clearly in control by two other officer before the choke was applied. I feel it was excessive and glad JJ acted with authority.