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Not sure if this is the right spot for this, but here it is This is just a lower res teaser that we got back, but I had to share. We had several interesting/firearms related pictures that I'll update this with as they come back. There's a couple other tngo members in the picture, so it's doubly cool

Power (mower) to the people!   http://washington.cbslocal.com/2013/10/09/one-man-militia-cleaning-up-national-mall-for-vets-with-park-service-furloughed/   - OS

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/10/09/kentucky-high-schools-told-no-more-postgame-handshakes/   It looks like there have been some scuffles after the game during the "good game" handshakes, so Kentucky High Schools are going to just stop the ritual alltogether.   When I played sports, skipping the handshake was not even an option. If you didn't do it, you didn't play next week. It taught us respect for others whether we win or lose, and that we can do battle on the field but at the end of the day we can go home friends.   But no, we have to be this nanny state, sissy-fied, politically correct society, where the rulers protect us from ourselves.   How about this: We teach kids how to be grown ups, where we don't just take our ball and go home when something doesn't go our way. How about we teach the kids the meaning of personal accountability and if you hit an opponent after the game, you are booted from the team for the season and maybe take a few days off to think about your actions.

You can never go wrong with positive networking, planning, and community building. It's something the majority of us do on one level or another. It's a significant part of being prepared imho.  The model presented by Oath Keeper's (of which I am a member) is a very useful tool. And learning from those adept in their specific areas of expertise is obviously a huge benefit.

I hear each one of these detachments they're creating comes with its own FBI informant.

Best way to teach it, Is actually use it. Hope you like nasopharyngeal's. :)

I can no longer comment on such issues, which is why I have been staying away.  Saying what I truly feel on this topic and many others will get me banned immediately and probably a visit from some federal boys.  ;) I can say that my views are antithetical to my Christian belief.

I bet a rimlock is fun to clear in one of those.

This just proves that when the thugs at the top give the order all their soldiers will line up and follow. Can you imagine the type of person that will follow orders like this. " Oh I'm sorry my pathetic ranger job is so important I will do anything I'm told to do no matter how disgusting it is, oh and heil bomma ".

First they will nudge us, PC crap, obamacare, taxes, unjust laws then they will shove us, reps that dont listen, fixed elections, closing sites, kicking people off their land then they will shoot us. Ruby Ridge, Waco, NSA They keep pushing till we are all in line, or WE NUDGE, SHOVE, or SHOOT BACK

Marcia, Marcia Marcia...  Marcia law.

Too bad we can't recall US congress critters. Would probably generate more participation than the actual elections that put them there.   - OS

I hope this is a new trend. 

Isn't the White House on park property? It should be closed and it's occupants kicked out.

This is my entire medical kit. I keep the basics in my blowout kit, and the bigger stuff like the suture kits and IV setup in an old school medics bag. How medically prepared are you? Is it a major part of your preps or are you more of a tylenol and bandaids kinda guy? I like to keep a very substantial kit on hand. Right now I have 2 different saline solution bags, 3 different iv catheters and the hose setup, several CAT tourniquets, all different kinds of bandages from izzys to the big trauma bandages, several suture kits. I also have antibiotics on order from a vet supply house and the conversion charts printed off and laminated. So how prepared are you medically? And everything here was acquired legally, nothing shady, and I do have proper training on how to use the stuff pictured here. Tapatalk ate my spelling.

To keep myself from being banned from this board, I will keep my thoughts and emotions to myself.    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/10/08/pentagon-freezes-death-benefits-for-fallen-soldiers-families/

No new flavors for you!   http://www.local8now.com/home/headlines/Shutdown-means-no-new-beer-from-craft-brewers-227039641.html   ETA  - Revenooers ain't available to open hootchbucket in Paducah - http://www.wbir.com/story/news/2013/10/08/shutdown-stalls-distillery-opening/2949139/   The shutdown sure highlights places where the government should not be involved.  They are still open where it counts.

I dont care what a person shoots. If a spike makes you happy than by all means shoot it, same goes for a 10 pointer. If a person wants to manage a herd than go right ahead. I know I will shoot anything I want. I killed a small 7 pointer last year and a guy told me i should have let it walk. I asked him why and he said I should only shoot big bucks. I laughed and went on my merry way. I say do whatever makes you happy not what other people think or do.

Saw this briefly mentioned somewhere on TGO, can't find it, and didn't seem to get much reaction.   While everyone else is barred from national monuments, you name it, thousands of immigration reform demonstrators, undoubtedly including beau coup illegal aliens,  get free reign today over the also closed National Mall.   Reports on TV news were that there were a hundred or more Park Police there for protection -- BHO can allocate them for one of his pet legislative agendas, but none of course for normal folks, including veteran's who simply want to frigging look at things. Oh, except for the occasional one to block people from access.   http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2013/10/08/government-shutdown-immigration-rally/2942257/   http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2013/10/08/immigration-rally-goes-forward-on-mall/   Lots more coverage available.     - OS

That is like saying you drive a Bugatti Veyron 16.4 Super Sport when you drive a Jetta because they are both owned by VW. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk - now Free

I think you are missing the point. Your wife was looking at a gun and when you turned away she bought it? Where exactly do you find a woman like that? Please, tell us!!!

The FFL should be willing to help make things right. Which he is by sending into the factory IMO. As to the state data base question, TN hasn't got a state database so nothing to worry over on that. I'd sit tight and give Ruger a call later this week, explain the situation to them so they know exactly what they're looking for, they should take care of you.

I don't think the seller has any legal obligation (he certainly has a moral one, and should help make it right).  However, the factory sealed box is bad news... the FFL logged the gun into his books without verifying the serial number on the actual gun.  It's rare, but I have seen box serial #s and gun serial #s that didn't match from the factory. 

Yeah, I should probably change out that picture because it's not accurate.  That casing isn't even in the extractor in that pic.  Mine was actually hanging about a 1/3 under the extractor.   The real plan may be to sell every 1911 I have and just have you build me one.  :)

I know. I cringe when anyone except for new hunters shoots a spike. They always say "I'm just hunting for meat!" Either they have a lack of knowledge or they have poor self control. If you are meat hunting, then shoot a dang doe and let the buck grow. These are the same people that wonder where all the big bucks are at. First of all there are far more doe than bucks. If you start shooting doe, then that will allow for increased forage for the rest of the deer. The average deer eats around 1 ton of food per year. So by eliminating doe, your deer become healthier because they have more access to food and therefore have more MEAT on their bones. Plus, how muh bigger is a spike than a mature doe anyways. Not much difference.

I use a 55 gr, FMJ boat tail of some sort from hornady.   Using 2230 powder.  At 100 yards you should be just about putting them all in the same hole, maybe a 1 inch group or better, under ideal conditions.  I say that using a 9x power scope and bench shooting slowly, though.  It depends on what you want  --- most of the time I make the ammo faster rather than trying to produce match grade ammo, and that tends to add another inch or so to the diameter of my groups.   Point is, if you want to make match grade ammo and tailor an AR for it, you can produce high quality groups at 100 yards easily on a calm day.  But the typical AR shooter prefers to blast ammo rapidly and is not aiming each shot carefully at long ranges, and rapidly made ammo with a little slop in the charges and OALs and crimp etc is sufficient for that (even at 200 yards, semi-sloppy ammo still gets a 4-5 inch group at the worst, plenty good enough for man targets).

Looks like ill be heading out saturday with my tactacam stabilizer camera in tow. Hopefully I can get some footage Sent from my SCH-R530U using Tapatalk 2

Have them print up another!

The Big South Fork area is a must see.  One of the last wild places in the south....that ain't swamp.

Notice "still open to collect taxes" just not to do the rest of their jobs

Without those willing to enforce tyranny for money, tyranny cannot exist.

The first time I used a PVS-22 with glass burning through it there was probably 85%+ illum and I thought it was the most awesome leap in scoped NV yet, since I'd only used a simrad and PVS-10 before. Everything was crystal clear, and I could easily see enough definition at 300m to determine if a target was armed. This was in a controlled environment on a range. The first time I used in downrange there was probably 15% illum and I couldn't see a pack of dogs 75m away from me. The weapon was pretty much useless until an hour or two before dawn. And yeah, first time I saw trace through a Leupold spotting scope with a PVS-14 strapped on it looked like the Matrix. Pretty neat so long as there is enough illumination out.

I wish the people who are falling for this crap could understand just how cynical Obama is being and how stupid he thinks they are.   Withdrawing services is just that. Taking an active role to punish people is... Well, I know I'm preaching to the choir here.

I can not make a calm rational comment about this sh!t right now.

Wish you'd have been in the stand when he squatted there! Git'm bubba!

I said it in the related thread.  Sally Jewell is the Secretary of the Interior.  She is also the former (resigned upon appointment by Obama) CEO of REI.  If she does not come out and make some kind of apology statement, I am finished shopping at REI.   There is no excuse for this - just resign the post, but don't oversee this kind of disgrace.

Eye checks out ok , still red as hell but no major damage.

I never shot over 200 yards, but they were quite accurate. Maybe the most accurate of the 55gr soft points. Depending on your rifle, you'll probably have to go to a match bullet to find something more accurate.

   What Sam1 said. I certainly don't call the shots here as to what you can or cannot post, and I'm not aiming my comment just at you. I think that WE collectively have become the boy crying wolf, by we I mean those that can look past our xboxes and smart phones far enough to see the crap that's happening. Unfortunately there are those out there <cough> Alex Jones <cough> that use our concern as an industry and are becoming rich at the cost of causing alarm to a susceptible audience. Just the world we have I guess.

I had the 3 gun trigger and just let me say you better stock up on ammo. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk - now Free

My best friend works at the VA, (no, he's not the stereotypical federal employee), and he tells me what goes on there. I don't see how this shutdown will effect anything since they work at a snail's pace anyways. They just have so-called justification to do so now.

  Me too, especially when it's not only the wrong word but misspelled besides!   - OS

Folks... ETP's post above (...#33...) is exactly right...  Treaties cant trump the Constitution (...as others have wisely opined...)....    As to the UN "enforcing" anything... Dont worry....  .    As to politicians here in the good ole USA doin anything about "banning guns"; the supremes have ruled on that one too... The Second Amendment is an "indivudual right"; despite whatever Rugh Bader Ginsburg and others say... They lost...     The signing of the un arms treaty wuz red meat for the anti-gunners and a red flag to infuriate the "real people" in this country... It was agreed to in symbolic terms only (....treaties require ratification and cant trump the Constitution....) by two of the most heinous anti american sons of satan who have lived since the civil war --- maybe ever in our history as a nation...     They are both overbearing, pompous, narcissistic, nincompoops who have no notion of anything other than that they should be emperors and that us delightful rustics should bow down and do what they say--- after all, they are the best and brightest; and we (...and the Founding Fathers, evidently...) are just ignorant old men......    Their main problem is that we wont bow down, the Bill of Rights restrains them, and there will be another election soon; and they will be out... That is the true genius of our system of government... The hell with them both... Keep your powder dry...   leroy

Bogus or not, violent criminals should be put to death immediately after being found guilty. No second chances for violent criminals.

Concealed carry and high capacity do not go well together. I keep an M&P 40 and an extra mag in the car regardless of what I’m carrying.   However, since you are concerned about the motorcycle attack I will offer by 2 cents on that. The best weapon may not always be a gun, especially if you have your wife and children with you. The victim in the bike attack rendered the best weapons he had (his vehicle and cell phone) useless when he took that exit ramp. I’m sure he was scared, but he let that fear cause him to lose situational awareness and defensive thinking.   He had already shown the bikers that he would not hesitate to run over their sorry azzes if they attacked him. So as long as he was moving on that highway he was safe; they weren’t going to get in front of him. He exited and put himself in a traffic jam; his vehicle was no longer a weapon; it was rendered useless.   Would a gun have done him any good? We don’t know, but if you have a large group of people after you in a carry state like Tennessee and you start shooting people; I would bet rounds would be inbound. While we are all 10 foot tall and bullet proof our wives and children are not.   I don’t blame the guy for being scared; but he had a better weapon than a gun and he panicked and gave it up. I think that’s the lesson to ponder here.

    I agree completely but you really think you'd have the time, much less the presence of mind, to put in earplugs?

I have one. They're compression shirts so they fit small and tight. They are hot and they tend to sag with a heavy gun, but that can be offset by putting something heavy in the opposite pocket.  Ideally, they would be worn under a shirt with snap button or with magnets under the buttons so it opens quickly.   It's inferior to most other carry methods... unless... you need to carry a large gun with a couple of spare mags and you need it to be completely invisible and you're a small guy or woman who can't carry a large gun concealed in a IWB holster.  I'm pretty sure I could carry a 1911 and couple of mags in this under a dress shirt and no one would ever know.

Closing this one down. We'll start PM'ing pricing this afternoon. If you want to do something in the meantime, you can go register for an account over on CMT's site. Once we get everyone registered, we'll switch everyone to a TGO group from which you'll be able to pay for and fulfill your order for your choice of lowers, uppers and BCGs.

The 19. Hands down All around great gun. 

Technically, Northern Watersnake. Very common widespread species: Oh, c'mon. - OS