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[quote name="sjc1340" post="1131660" timestamp="1396114231"]The clown has a pen and a phone, he's already urinated on the Constitution[/quote] Which clown: Reagan, bush sr, Clinton, or bho. They all signed or spoke in favor of gun control. And leaked on the constitution in their own special ways.

[quote name="gregintenn" post="1131553" timestamp="1396101571"]On that note, why don't we thank the school nurse, or the janitor, or the dog catcher, etc.? They all work hard and provide someone a valuable service. [/quote] Hell yeah! I celebrate those folks who make very little but do much for our community. We have a great Animal Control in our community, with paid employees and volunteers who are compassionate and facilitate the adoption of neglected and abused animals. I love those people and my wife and I go out if our way with donations and foster assistance to help them make mission. Teachers? I love me some teachers. Doesn't pay much, but they do it anyway. There are some real heroes out there who spend a career in teaching making squat. Nurses, janitors, coal miners. Lotta jobs out there with folks that don't make much but deserve our respect. Sure, they do it to make a living, but those are jobs that service each of us and a job most of us aren't willing to do. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

For what it's worth... I think the author of the article (...along with those "others" he refers to...) hints at the problem but either hasn't recognized it; or doesn't understand it...   Up until the dawn of the CNC age (...the time of the Colts, essex put togethers, and the old military pistols...); folks wanted their carry 1911 to be a reliable shooter for defensive purposes; there were few problems with the 1911; providing they had a good magazine, good ammo, and someone who know how to shoot...   Some said the 1911 wasn't sufficiently reliable; but there are lots of reasons not to believe that...Accuracy wasn't "bullseye grade"; it was "combat grade"... Folks built 1911's looser then... That made them reliable... I've handled and owned a bunch of lowly Colts and military rebuilds (...now out of favor with the current 1911 "in-crowd"...) that never failed to go off when they had a proper mag, good ammunition, and a thoroughly trained shooter handling them...   The reason that "new" 1911's need all this TLC is that they are too closely machined and fitted... They are, in effect, a modern match grade bullseye gun that the manufacturers are marketing as "defensive guns"... That's why they are 'finicky" and need fixin.... Glocks aint "finicky" out of the box; they are combat guns....   leroy, lover of the lowly colt 1911 and that greatest of all colts, the SAA

I know there are "bad" cops out there who bring a lot of criticism to the law enforcement profession, and it's a shame. There are a lot of good cops out there who make life a lot more civilized than it would be otherwise and we would be in a mess were it not for them. Someone posted this on Facebook today and I thought I would pass it on. It really made me think.

I have never claimed to be the sharpest knife in the drawer but it was funny and what is also funny is learning where most guys thoughts are most of the time............................ :rock:  :rock: 

Recovery?? What recovery. There's no problem here. Just move along and take your blasphemy with you.   Heck. I just bought another pistol and had 2 old ones re-blued.   It's all good here.

Not a thing wrong with being thankful for cops. Most of them put more thought into their career decision than the average 18 yr old who joins the military. Yet, we don't have a problem thanking the military for their service. So, why not thank cops and other civil servants who take life threatening jobs?

Sure, come to the whorehouse waiting room and ask for help about your sex addiction...

The smaller one is basically a bush knife. Total length is about 8 inches and the blade is about 4 inches. It features file work and jimping on the spine and a stone washed finish on the blade. It really came out good. The scales are black canvas micarta and cocobolo wood backed up with a white liner to contrast the stone washed finish and has two stainless steel pins. The blade itself is made from 3/16" thick 1084 carbon steel and was professionally heat treated to a 59-60RC. The larger one would be considered a tactical knife I suppose. Total length is about 11 1/2 inches with the blade being about 6 1/2. It has a bit of larger jimping on the thumb rise near the handle and a lanyard hole and glass breaker at the rear. It also has an extra finger grove on the steel just rear of the ricasso which adds more control for close in work. It's made from 3/16" thick 1095 carbon steel and has green canvas micarta scales with bright orange liners and stainless steel pins. It was professionally heat treated to a 59RC. I've very happy with the way these turned out overall. I learned a lot with these blades and am confident they are built well, heat treated to the steels capabilities and will last as long as any knife out there. [url=https://flic.kr/p/myRvRh][/url] [url=https://flic.kr/p/myRvRh][/url] [url=https://flic.kr/p/mySLdb][/ url] [url=https://flic.kr/p/mySvnQ][/url]

Didn't this AK74 Pistol topic pop up a couple of years ago and there was a run on 5.45X39 at that time also.   I swear this sounds like something that came up during the first Barry Hussein panic.        Or did I just buy all of those 1080 round cans just for the Hell-of-It in order to buy cheap and stack deep.  :shrug:

With all due respect, the article is simply one man's opinion. I've yet to handle, let alone own an unreliable 1911. Further, I fail to understand why a 1911 is so much more difficult to master than any other handgun.

Folks, look who started this on Facebook.   JAMES YEAGER!!!!!!!!  :yuck:     That attention whore is just doing what he does best = :stir:

I agree with both posts 8 and 10. I respect everyone who gets up, works hard, and earns their paycheck...regardless of what they do.   We should celebrate that.

Then don't do it. I will say though that the last deer I gutted was with a useless Frost knife. I kept it in my backpack as a backup. Good thing because I didn't have my good knife on my belt that day (Yeah, Murphy plays games with me :) ). It did a fine job, sharpened up nice and still rides as a backup in my backpack. The buck it cleaned didn't complain at all. I have no regrets for spending that $10. YMMV I will also say that I am not endorsing their quality. I know they are cheap, and you get what you pay for. I merely stated that the passage of this law makes me want to stop there (I pass their retail store everyday) and buy a big (over 4") cheap knife to keep in my truck (probably the toolbox).

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  Hmmmmm...., An Indoor Classifier - - - Never done one of those.   But that would nullify my standard "The Cross-Wind got me" excuse I have used for those 20 yard shots on Stage 3!  :ugh:  

RE:... TMF's post above (...#29...)... Right here strikes an interestin chord with me from the "long ago": Back in the seventies there wuz an interestin little gunshop near midland center in Maryville that had a pretty good selection of hunting and shooting stuff... I used to drop by from time to time and it wuz interestin to walk in and talk a bit...During those days; i wuz spendin lots of time lookin for good shotguns and "N" frame smiths...   When ya walked in; everything stopped ALA the old time "stranger in town" thing from the westerns and all eyes were on you...   As TMF described; the "vibes" were very interestin there too... I aint too much of a "vibe" person; but this place gave off some interestin ones--even noticeable to me... I always got the impression that it wuz kinda like the galactic empire vs the ragtag rebels thing; and you could figure out pretty quick that they saw themselves as the "rebel" element...   These guys were friendly but they would never opine on anything... They replied when spoken to; but passed out no opinions...Whenever i visited with these guys; i always felt like that i had been "mentally and spiritually" interrogated and every word spoken and action made while in the place wuz analyzed and duly catalogued... It wuz all unspoken, but really real (...to me at least...)...   This place is long gone now; but i always thought it wuz interestin... Several of my childhood buddies did lots of business with them... I never asked about the "vibes" but i kinda knew they were sympathetic to them...   There is a fine line between patriotic organizations and "others"... I can see the militia thing as being manned by concerned folks who are, in fact, patriotic... I can also see that it can easily be inhabited by anarchists and nuts... It's the anarchist and nuts ya have to worry about...   leroy, lookin back

It used to be legal, but that was back before Americans started using the force of government to chain their "morality" around the necks of their fellow Americans.

That's just sad. Great truck.   A Judge told me one time " You never really know a Women, until you meet her in court ".

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A couple of weeks ago, I replied to the Gun Addicts Anonymous; Somebody stop me....by Troutburger (http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/topic/77356-gun-addicts-anonymous-somebody-stop-me/), that got me to slow down and reflect on myself. At the same time little did I know that something was occurring that would solve my addiction or at least potentially place me on the path of recovery. My soon to be 9 year old son is in his 4th year of baseball. He has been an average kid, nothing special, his hitting has always been respectful, and well he has always played in the outfield, you get my drift. This season has been different. He has turned the corner, and for the first time in his career has graduated from the outfield to the infield playing 2nd base and he has been tried at Short Stop. Plus, he is also going to be the #1 in the batting lineup. He is really looking sharp in practice! So what does this got to do with my gun addiction and obsession? Well, due to his new and great performance, I have purchased him the new Easton Mako bat, New helmet, New batting bag, new cleats, and a new batting net where he and I can practice his hitting. And I want to reward him even more, like baseball summer camp, and maybe trying him on a travel team. When my wife found the new accessories, the bat alone is $300, she said good grief, you are taking this baseball thing just as bad as your gun obsession. He already has 3 other bats that were more than what you can buy at Walmart. I told the wife, one good thing about this new obsession, I won't be into guns as much or have the time (at least that is what I told her)! So I am on the gun addiction solved wagon, or at least for the next 3 mos. Other than limited on funds, what has been your gun addiction treatment path of recovery, and have you been cured? If you are reading this post on a gun forum, that may be a silly question.

Imagine if law enforcement turned into a hard line business with no compassion, enthusiasm,and was ran like a bank or business where policy and procedure is adhered to in a rigid manner? Kind of like banks, insurance companies and investment firms?? Imagine if an officer told someone sorry I don't do CPR for strangers. The law says I don't have to, or call us after you call every person you know before reporting your child missing because we don't respond to speculation. Ask a banker at a higher level to flex policy or procedure they'll laugh at u while taking a million a year home for a job their frat brother hooked em up with.when someone tells someone who works in public service o find another job that pays more money and move on I say fuck off. Most adults in public service enjoy helping others to a degree. Some help beyond their minimum expectations. That's the reward. Crap pay is a unwanted evil that goes with helping others for a living. unless of course you're one of those dirtbags that claims their with a public safety organization. They collect a million bucks over the phone and get to keep 2/3 of it to help the public servants that need financial aid. Most of us in mid tn know Lloyd Poteet, who does hire officers for security and other needs. Most in public service work second jobs because there is a desire to live and not just survive on the shit wages paid. Public service folks usually deserve a lot more than the pay at hand. Does that banker deserve a million a year for showing up to perform menial a tasks? Or does a complete stranger giving mouth to mouth res to a 6 mo old baby or 90 year old woman deserve it?? Everyone needs to earn a living but generally speaking le pay is Crap. Teacher pay is crap as other service jobs are agreed. I don't think any officers fireman or ps folks are looking for anything except a simple thanks once in a while and money at the end of the week. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 of course it ate my spelling.

Thanks for all the input I will be using the brass, as a side note I did run 1 through a die and it went through with no problems, that was not the case when I had fired about 5 of the rounds when I first used them. As I mentioned, when I fired the first few rounds it was discovered that they were loaded very hot, hence the concerns and questions concerning the brass, thanks for all the imput, happy shooting.

  Yep. If I were asked to suggest a handgun for a department or agency, I would not suggest the 1911 for two reasons. 1. As said here, too many officers only touch their guns during qualification and a thumb safety would probably get them killed. 2. I simply do not trust most factory built 1911 to be in spec nor do I trust department armorers to know nearly enough to address things. And I've fixed more than my share of issues when the particular gun has been back to the factory several times. So, I don't even trust the manufacturer often.   I feel the majority of 1911s come out fine, but too often I'm working on guns where I'm wondering how this gun ever left the factory. You can't blame the platform for someone building them wrong. This is where glock and S&W have an advantage. While there are tons of companies building 1911's, glock and S&W are the only ones building their guns. Plus those guns were designed with modern manufacturing in mind. The 1911 requires skilled hands, and most factories seem to trust their CNC to compensate for the lack of man hours.

  There's no reason to think the engines malfunctioned at all. All available evidence suggests the plane flew for hours after the last voice contact, likely until it ran out of fuel.   - OS

In the famous words of the long haired bad guy in that cinema classic "Pecos Bill": "...Ya cant stop progress boy...."... Gaston Glock and his sincere copiers moved gun design ahead over the world... John Moses Browning wuz a great (...possibly the greatest...) firearms designer ever...   Gaston Glock is the next generation... Pick the one you like and shoot it... I like all of em...   leroy

Yup we're all a bunch of methed out feud'n hillbillies. Not a degree among us. Don't set foot off the trail cause you'll stumble on a pot field or meth lab. And don't get me started on the gay situation in Johnson city. Our backwoods sheriffs keep everything hushed up through backwoods jail house justice. Schools are among the worst in the nation. The good thing is. If you have an old fridge, mattress or car. Just run it up the holler and drop it off.

I slept in today. I've been seeing lots of turkeys on my trail cam, but the sound of the rain this morning convinced me to sleep-on. Oh well, the season is young :)

Ordinarily I'd advise you to stand up to your wife and show her who's boss.  But since she has the revolver..... :nervous:

Yuup...the sad part is that, as I read the TN constitution; the problem is not so much with the constitution (although the language could use significant improvement) but rather, how we have allowed the legislature to apply their "understanding" to the firearm related laws they pass.   If the firearm laws they passed really were done "with a view to prevent crime"; most of the laws we have that restrict where/when we can be armed would not exist or would at least be more favorable to the citizen wishing to enjoy his God given right to be armed.

Nice knife, Esee has impressed me with their products. I've got one of these also but without all the bells and whistles, came with the sheath and I wrapped the handle with paracord. I've had an Esee-4 for years and it is sweet! 

I've got a couple of strings of Christmas lights made from empty 12 gauge shells.  :hiding:

 With pistol ammo I generally shoot groups and watch the primers. Obviously start with the lowest charge, shoot you first group checking the primer for high pressure sign after each shot. Repeat until you have gone through all loads or you started seeing sign of high pressure. I like to keep the fired brass in groups with the same load so that I can line them up afterwards and look at the progression in primer "flattening". This is just something I like to do because you get to see how much those small incremental jumps in powder charge effect the spent primer. I usually go with the most accurate lowest charge that reliably cycles the weapon. A lot of times the groups will start off opened up a bit and tighten up over the first few loads then the next few loads will show similar accuracy and then start to open back up as the charge increases. This isn't always the case but I have found that the most accurate round is seldom the hottest load which is why I mentioned the groups usually start to open back up. The reason I say choose the lowest accurate/consistent charge is because I see no need in wasting the extra powder and adding recoil when i'm not gaining any accuracy from it. The only exception I personally have made regarding this was with a hunting bullet that I needed the extra speed to ensure adequate expansion so I was willing to give up a small amount of consistency in exchange for more speed.   You will really start enjoying this whole process once you have developed a few more loads and start to see the whole cause and effect thing first hand. Good luck tomorrow and I hope the rain will give you the chance to run off your test loads!

This stuff is between $18-$20 wholesale for the non-Walmart retailer. This comment certainly isn't limited to this particular shop. Wholesale hasn't changed, y'all.

I have six 1911's and they all function perfectly right out of the box, but they would all put a Colt to shame, as far as them needing any "tinkering" some people just can't leave things alone and start swapping parts before they know what the problem is. A good bit of FTF's are due to poor Mags. and weak Recoil Springs, along with not taking a firm grip. I carry a 1911 daily as my personal protection weapon I won't carry anything else, but that's just me.

They are legal to own just not to carry

Just thought anyone that's been lusting after one of these like me might want a heads up on from what I can tell is the best deal going on these sweet shotguns at the moment.  Email came over this morning.  $799 delivered for fixed or folding stock version.  www.centerfiresystems.com

Thanks captain obvious. lol

  I'm pleasantly surprised each day I wake up and get vertical. Let alone erect!   - OS

  The best I can describe it is faster recoil, allowing you to get back on target faster, and it feels like you're fighting the gun less during recoil.   When I used to teach classes, I'd have a stock G19 and a G19 with a 15lb recoil spring side x side, loaded with the same ammo. The vast majority of people noticed a positive difference when using the 15lb spring.  Also, I believe it offers increased reliability when firing from somewhat comprimised shooting positions.   Is it earthshattering?  No, but worth it to me. And this is coming from an Armorer who believes Glocks are best left stock as much as possible. Regards

I think we need to get several TGO'ers to contact her with extremely low ball offers all telling her that it isn't worth near what she is asking.  Then of course one of us buys it for peanuts and sells it back to Mark. 

The only way I'd buy the truck from your EX is if it was to hold onto until you bought it back off me, as fun as it would be to drive occasionally I already have more vehicles than I have time to enjoy. :)

Why in the world would a judge do that?

They dont have tanks. They have APC and a douce and a half. I talked to them over the phone. I also found out that if you buy a tank or APC from overseas, they will ship it to your house. I currently have $5000 in a special fund just so I can buy a 1966 BTR. And have it delivered. My neighbors thing I am crazy and this will push them over the edge. I have found a guy selling demilitarized T70 for around $25,000 and an extra $10,000 for shipping and custom fees and you have yourself a modded farm tractor. (no company is going to insure a soviet tank, so you have to make some key details about it up). And yes, I talked to the bosnian about it. Also, for a wheeled APC" all you need to make it road legal is mirrors and lights. I know, I know, "who in the hell knows all this stuff"?. I really want a tank.  :panic:

  The scary part is that one judge can restrict a freedom that Americans have relied upon for hundreds of years.  How can the constitutional process which requires an accountable system of checks and balances give so much judicial weight to a single appointed judge? 

When the government starts passing ignorant laws, then The People start ignoring them.

Just a Rem 870 6+1 with double naught, cheap shell saddle with some slugs, cheap light. Lives under my mattress. Can grab the bandolier if it turns out I also need to clear the immediate area outside around the abode of small zed or Section 8 offensive. ;) - OS

Good post.  Pinning it to the top so that it can be referenced easily.

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