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And we apparently keep forgetting the TN state Constitution reads in Article 1 Section 26. That the citizens of this state have a right to keep and to bear arms for their common defense; but the Legislature shall have power, by law, to regulate the wearing of arms with a view to prevent crime. So even if we want to argue that the federal Constitution allows no infringements or impediments to any and all carry of any and all weapons (which is shaky legal and historical ground) , the TN State Constitution clearly reserves the right of the legislature to regulate the wearing of arms in the state of Tennessee. Frankly I'd like to see the "enhanced permit" have the added value of eliminating the force of law from the signage. ANY business would still be able to ask you to leave if they so choose. But if you have the "enhanced permit" the signs then would not get you in legal trouble.

People carrying guns is not a recognized protected class like race etc. If they see you carrying a gun in their place of business, they have every right to ask to see your HCP. You do not have to show it but they do have the right to ask. That in no way infringes on any of your rights. You do not have the right to carry a gun in public in Tennessee. You pay for the privilege of carrying. And even if it was some sort of rights violation the police still would not arrest the owners. Police arrest for criminal violations and that would be a civil violation.

The first guy you’ll want to talk to is probably the sheriff.

They have the right to ask for what they want inside their business. Kind of like "No shoes, no shirt, no service." You also have the right to shop wherever you want and to deny your patronage to businesses that treat customers without respect. I enjoy that right and exercise it often. Cheers, Whisper

You need a licensed surveyor. Usually, property is staked before a sale, but I don’t guess it has to be. You also may need an attorney. A bad neighbor can be nearly as miserable as a bad wife.

I'm used to everyone else but me getting a handout. I've been self employed almost 30 years. That I'm getting a 1200 stimulus check is surprising. I'm sure my taxes will increase sooner than later to pay the tab.

This is the kind of story that ends up on the evening news six months later. Good luck, Capt.

I remember the old Victorinox saw blades that were just amazingly sharp. That was my standard for a saw blade until I used the Havalon. I wouldn’t hesitate to choose that as my bone saw if I was quartering an animal to pack out.

For 2K you can buy a couple of excellent entry level guns + top quality glass and a lot of ammo. Buy a nice rifle and give it a whirl. Then decide if you really want to spend that kind of money or even if .22 competition is your thing. You can get some excellent advice over at RimfireCentral.com. But I'd just ask about getting into competition and not mention any price range. Granted tho, some of those guys have some seriously expensive .22s.

If you are going to put a can on it, you don’t need to spend $2K. Buy a $150 rifle, but a $100 scope on it and call it a day.

I don’t think most of us are misunderstanding what is being said, we just don’t agree with it. They certainly have the right to ask you anything they want. They also have the right to ask you to leave based on your response unless it has to do with a protected class. You have a right to own a gun and have it in your house under the 2nd amendment. You do not have that right on another’s property. As a matter of fact, in Tennessee it is a crime to carry in public without a permit; carrying in public is a privilege you purchase from the state. A business does not have to have privileges forced up on them. Therefore they can ask you, and based on your response decide if they want to allow you to come in. No one is saying you can be arrested for refusing to show your permit; but you can be arrested for refusing to leave their property.

You’ve got a problem that a survey is unlikely to solve. Good luck.

More truth to this than I like to think about. @Capt.Dunsel I think that I'd get the survey and start digging corner post holes immediately. That way they can't move the pins and claim that they were never there. I think that I'd also let the Sheriff's Office know about what is going on by filing a report over the septic tank. Once you have a report number it's a matter of record regardless of whether the Sheriff actually does something about it. Remember: The first one reporting is assumed to be the victim. By having a report of previous incidents it supports your case of future incidents - which sounds like you are destined for.

I said this before on this forum and got numerous people trying to deny it. I even pointed out an encounter that I had with some Hell's Angels and was told that I was wrong to judge them on their appearance.

While I dont agree with our law that a business can ban firearms carry, I am otherwise a believer in property owners rights. But given our law DOES give property owners that right, they can ask you to leave at any time for any reason. Certainly they have the right to ask to see your permit, also, of course you dont have to show it, and then, of course, they have the right to ask you to leave, and if you dont, you're trespassing.

One of the biggest fallacies of the gun owning community is forgetting that we've (well, some of us, many here on TGO) taken the time to learn these laws. We should think on this one as if the person asking the question didn't know squat about handgun carry laws, because most people don't.

Dave's situation is pretty common, actually. If you know you don't have a disqualifying conviction, it is typically one of two things: (i) a charge that is not showing a disposition (like Dave's) or (ii) someone with a similar name is popping up on your record. The first is much more common, particularly if an arrest occurred many years ago. As many states began computerized reporting, they spent time entering old records and mistakes in entries became pretty common. On a similar note, I have seen several instances where someone was involuntarily committed for a mental evaluation at some point in the past. Sometimes those show up with a teenage who was having trouble at home, other times it is more serious. However, after the Virginia Tech shooting, those things started getting reported to the FBI too. Errors showed up in those records, as well. In both cases, you HAVE to deal with the problem in the court where the charge/entry occurred. I get several calls a month from people wanting to fix the issue in TN, even though the charge/entry is from another state. TN courts have no authority to fix any of that stuff unless it is in TN. Unfortunately, even when it is a TN charge/entry, TN's laws for fixing some of these issues are not great and can't be dealt with as easily as other states (for example, Washington state and Ohio - among others - that have specific laws allowing corrections, expungements, or restoration of rights). If your issue does not actually prohibit you and cannot be fixed otherwise (like someone else's record showing up on your record), there is a federal program (called the Voluntary Appeal File or VAF) that will set up a unique identifier number (sort of a SSN for firearms purposes). Those typically resolve these issues when nothing else will.

I will admit, I've always just used whatever cheap Torx wrenches I have around the house to work on my knives. I got really, really tired of stripping heads. It seems like the cheap wrenches allow you to get sorta tight, then either the wrench (most of the time) or screw (it's happened to me) strip and then you cannot really get it tight again. So, a few weeks ago I contacted Spyderco and they sent me three brand new screws for my Yojimbo 2. I figured that would be an appropriate time to purchase some quality Torx wrenches. I did my research, and I found a brand called "Wiha". Perhaps some of you have heard of them, I had not. They're not cheap, but the are by far the best quality Torx wrenches of this size I've ever used. I actually worried I was over-tightening the screws this time. Nothing slipped, stripped, etc. All good to go! Wiha 36392 L-Wrench Set Anyone used these before?

Maybe another way of looking at it: Custom BR Gun: Custom NRL22 Gun: Cheap NRL22 Gun Is there a big difference in the two NRL22 guns. Yes and no. The custom gun is definitely better, but is it as much better than the cost....debatable unless you are pretty serious. If you are the type that naturally is inquisitive about chambering specs/dimensions, firing pin fall, etc, then the custom route may be to your liking.

Great questions. Spent some time on Rimfire Central and those dudes go DEEP in this. I thought I was interested in competition until reading over there. I’m realizing I’m not willing to take something that seriously right now. Pivoting. For the ONLY 22LR you could own for target shooting, plinking, and maybe some casual competition, what is the best bolt action option in that “higher end” category? Is that $1K? I do appreciate the offer for the call and I may take you up on it, but I think this idea just got much simpler and cheaper based on the reactions.

So first question do you just want to shoot off of a bench or are you thinking you may like "Benchrest" shooting. Big difference between them. I am about as deep down the custom 22 rabbit hole as one can go and would be glad to discuss real details with you about what may work for what you want. Also, are you looking to travel to some matches, or is this just informal plinking where you want a really nice gun, but aren't really interested in competition? Lots of variables that would lead me to give you different recommendations. In the BR world, 2k is not a lot for a gun, let alone a gun and scope, but it could be done. If you think you want to shoot something more like NRL22, then that's a different discussion, but there also expensive guns in that realm too. I have them all and will try to help you get what you actually need. Glad to have a call with you if you want as well.

@Hozzie

Oh yeah. They did two runs of that one - and another with the PM3 in the same configuration. If you wanted one, you pretty much had to be on the site with your finger on the ‘Complete Order’ button when they dropped. They were literally gone in minutes.

Thought I said that...

Or probably even to say out loud in advance. Words like “premeditation” start getting thrown around.

Negative. They have the ability to ask. Under conditions that they demand your personal information to determine if you are legally doing anything they are violating your privacy and attempting to police. You and they both have the right to refuse. If they call the police and you are arrested it’s because you are trespassing, not because you didn’t show them your carry permit. If they had a right to Police you and see it, that’s what you’d be arrested for. So it should go both ways..... the police are called and you are standing on the other side of the street. Inform the officer a rights violation has taken place and THEY get arrested on a technicality just like you would. Gonna happen? Nope. That’s how it should however. That’s why we created civil rights, so when they are violated someone is accountable.

I use Aeroshell on any barrel installation with AR15 platforms.

Looked into the Swamp Fox Tomahawk line? https://swampfoxoptics.com/tomahawk-series They are pretty well regarded on the AR15.com message boards as the owner is very active over there.

My wife works for a title company in Knoxville and says that she believes the title insurance doesn't apply to the property, just the home. It's still a good idea to call though. @Capt.Dunsel I would call the title company you used when you purchased the home and property and see if they can help.

I think he means .32 H&R. I have a Single Six in that caliber and it's a great gun. Cheers, Whisper

Actually it did. The demand for higher installation torque and consumer usage is what has driven the design changes. Consumers don't want their tools to wear out quickly while industry is happy to replace tools if the cost of the tool is less than the cost to rework the product.

Yeah, that idea didn't work as intended.

You are generous, I thought it looked like 7 pieces of thick wall conduit. lol

The Alamo - 1960

All I use are Wiha tools I have absolutely everything for knives along with a few custom drivers with every whia available

And he got to ride in one the next day

The free market really only works when failure is an option. We've removed a lot of the risk associated with failure once you're big enough. The thing that really galls me in so many of these cases is that we're actually rewarding the people who made the poor decisions in the first place - and in doing so incentivizing the same behavior in the future.

Exactly. JIT isn't applicable to everything. Business schools teach one thing, how to run a widget factory. If your factory makes widgets and demand rarely changes, the method they learned works fine and you don't need any inventory. When you don't make widgets, demand is variable, and some items have long lead times, having some stock of hard to get things can save you lots if pain down the road. But they're not taught to think that way. Month to month is about as good as it gets. And this is why I disagree with the bailouts to some degree. Businesses must be allowed to fail, even big ones. It's the only way they'll learn. I like to say we don't have a 5 year plan, or even a 5 month plan. We have a 5 hour plan. We have production meetings twice a day, and there's about 5 hours of useful work that gets done between them. Its absurd.

I haven’t noticed that racism knows any state boundaries.

Japanese Marine Corps Officer Next to Vickers Crossley M23 Armored Vehicle during Street Fighting in Shanghai.

I'm curious to see where all the social distancing, disinfecting, etc. ends up. Seems to me that going totally nuts about cleaning could cause worse pandemics down the road. Herd immunity is best established by exposure. Vaccines are a big thing here, but not so much globally.

Wonder what is going on here.

Wanted Dead or Alive 1958-1961 Been re-watching these shows, he sure could handle that Mare’s Leg. Still tempted to buy one from time to time.

Jerry Potts, Canadian Frontiersman

So according to that law a person can carry pistol on their person but not allowed to have it loaded or have the amunition on their person that fits the gun???? Ok so what is the sense in packing an empty gun around?? That is another one of those useless laws that cost the taxpayers to pay some politician to introduce which we all know had to come from the left. I guess if the gun is big enough you could use it for a club in a knife fight!!!!