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Hey guys. I got some good news to report - I'm officially a college graduate as of yesterday.   I took my leave from the Tennessee College of Applied Technology at Athens yesterday, with my Machinist I diploma in hand. After 20 months of turning handles within the walls of Machine Tool Technology, I am now certified.   It's a pretty proud moment for everyone around me, and myself as well. When I started the course in January 2013, I never thought I would even make it this far; but I have, in what seems like a few days' time in retrospect, 20 months has cruised on by.   But it paid off. I graduated with honors (my grade average has never been below 97; for the past year it has been 100 across the board) and perfect attendance for all 20 months.   It was a pretty emotional event, in a way, last night. The yearly ceremony was held at Athens Middle School. It was tough to go through, knowing that I had to move on from several very close friends and co-students, as well as my instructor; but through the magic of email and transportation, it is not good-bye so much as, until next time.   Now I await my next move - getting into a good job. I already have a good lead; I hope it leads to something great. I want to become a top-class machinist, and a hard-working American's American like the great folks here on TGO.   Anyway, hey, thanks for hearing my spiel, fellas.

You guys were RIGHT and I am a dumb arse!  No one at the church knew anything if my wife's surgery. I called the church today and the pastor is coming by this afternoon. He is going to get a volunteer to come by and stay with her while I work. Talk about foot prints in the sand! I want to thank you guys for your replies and prayers.

With the opening of a new BPS here in Bristol, one of my son's friends applied for and was offered a position.  The last day of training, they were reviewing store policies, and the new employees were advised that they cannot store an otherwise legally-owned firearm in their vehicle while parked at the BPS - to do so will be grounds for immediate dismissal.  He questioned his understanding of the policy, and was told that he did understand it correctly - and that this was BPS's corporate policy.  He politely handed his "uniforms" back to the manager and told them that he would not be taking the position.   Hopefully, the Cabela's that is building a store just 6 miles up the road will have a bit more common sense.

  Try a different tour guide and you'll hear that the locals did it because Yankee tourists kept getting their heads stuck in them.  :)

Did you notify anyone at the church of your wife's condition. Sometimes we take it for granted that they know of our problems. You may want to give them a call. Just saying

I believe the problem is associated the use of 125gr bullets. I have heard of this load is also notorious for flame cutting on the top strap on some revolvers as well. I have shot MANY rounds of 125gr and not experienced this in my Rugers, but this was before I heard of the issue. In the Smith gun it was believed the cracking was caused by the thinned forcing cone. Example below take notice of the flat on the bottom. If you want an explanation of why this is thought to be happening. See post #6 in the link below. I'd copy it, but want the author to get credit for it. http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=455649

*You're My GT score was a hell of a lot higher than 110. I wasn't a grunt for a lack of options. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

What am I preparing for?     The Defender's Creed John Farnam I accept and understand that human predators exist. Criminal or terrorist, they take advantage of our civilized society to prey upon the weak. They represent evil and must be confronted and defeated. I believe that self-defense is a moral imperative, and that illegitimate force and illegal violence must be met with righteous indignation and superior violence. I will not rely on others for the security of myself, my family and my community. I proudly proclaim that I run with a like-minded pack. I do not amble through life with the mind-numbed herd. I will train with my chosen weapons, maintain them and carry them in a condition of readiness at all times. I will be mentally prepared and physically equipped to effectively respond to an attack or emergency. I will constantly test myself against realistic standards to discover my strengths and weaknesses. I will turn weakness into strength. I will seek to learn new skills and techniques, and then teach what I have learned to other members of the pack. Be it with firearm or blade, empty hand or blunt object, I will hit my enemies hard, fast and true. I will live a quiet and unobtrusive life, but I will develop and retain the capacity for swift and decisive violence. I recognize that I am the modern equivalent of the traditional Minuteman, and that I may be called to service at any time against heavily armed enemies. I will respond effectively. I accept that I am a pariah among some of my countrymen, and a quaint anachronism to others. I will not hold their ignorance against them. I will win, or die trying. I swear this creed before God, my family and my fellow citizens.

Worse case scenario, it won't be a handgun I'm carrying.

I am bacon powered also!   :rofl:

That looks great!! Nice restor on a old 500.

i would start them off with a single shot 22 to age 12 from age 9 and then she would only move up if she learned it all. Boys the same way. 22 single shot rifle and maybe a 4.10 shotgun in single shot.............jmho

What DaveTN said. Still, it's pretty awesome to meet the UPS man and have him hand you a box if firearms.  :up:   Plus you get dealer pricing at some websites. Brownell's does that for us. I know there are others, but that's the only one I've used.

His name is Ben and he is a good smith and reasonable too.

The Lebanon Gun Shop on Hartman Drive has a gunsmith on site. I've never employed him for any work, but have spoken with him, and he seems like a nice guy.

Nice work !

Awfully harsh and judgmental thing to say about a young man trying to secure employment.    I know when I worked at Walmart and Sears they both had the same policy and I broke them daily at each store I just didn't tell anyone.  The policy isn't in place because the business is anti.  They put the policy in place because it is a liability to the company if an employee was ever to shoot a customer be it accidentally, on purpose, or while taking down an active shooter.  The employee, in the eyes of the courts is an agent of the company so it sets the company up for an easy lawsuit. 

Things that make you go . . . hmmmmmm . . . . ‘Guns Are Welcome’: One Restaurant Bucked a Trend — Here’s What Happened Next Jul. 19, 2014 11:23am Zach Noble As many restaurants, including Starbucks, Sonic and Chili’s, tell customers to leave their guns at home, one restaurant in East Tennessee took a different approach — and gained quite a few customers. Sharma Floyd, owner of Shiloh Brew and Chew, adopted a gun-friendly policy after she read about other restaurants banning firearms, WBIR-TV reported. “[The other restaurant] had put up a sign that said ‘No Weapons Allowed’ and they were robbed at gunpoint two days later,” Floyd recounted. “That got me thinking.” She posted a “Guns are Welcome” sign on the front door of her establishment about a month ago, and since then, she says business has really picked up. Image source: screengrab via WBIR-TV “I can honestly say I’ve gotten way more support than the one person who really gave me a lot of grief over it,” said Floyd. ”I have had so many customers take pictures of the sign, ask to meet me in person, and thank me.” Floyd says she keeps some safety precautions in mind — for instance, she won’t serve beer to customers who are carrying firearms — and so far the policy seems to be doing nothing but good things for her business. “There have been as many as eight people in here at one time who I know for a fact had guns,” Floyd said. “And no one would have known it except I know them personally. They’re law abiding, god fearing, Christian people. And that’s what I stand on. That’s what my restaurant is based on. ” http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/07/19/guns-are-welcome-one-restaurant-bucks-a-trend-and-sees-dramatic-results/

I'll stick to my Kahr PM9 for pocket carry. I need a pocket hoster with mag holder like Oh Shoot has.

  I miss D&T Arms.

Don't go on a Monday.  I drove about 30  miles out of the way to eat there yesterday.  I was told they were not open to the public as they were reserved for a group later that evening. :ugh:   I ate lunch there on my way out of Knoxville on that trip and have been back several times since.  It's worth a drive a few miles out of the way to eat there.

Waste of good bacon IMO.

Screw that, like Ugly said its great land. Why can't they all just move to France or whatever is my question.

That had to be an old law, I was stationed there in 94 and had to wait 10 days to pick up my newly aquired 10/22. That state will suck unless they have a full scale interstate revolution. Too bad, it is some prime real estate.

Try using decent ammo.  That UMC 115gr is the weakest 9mm on the market.  Also use a new magazine with a strong spring.  If it's still causing problems, then it's probably the extractor.   Extractors for those older HPs are getting hard to find.  You might want to remove it and give it and the channel it fits into a really good cleaning.  75 years of gunk can cause problems.  A new set of springs is always a good idea for these older pistols.   Clean it up, but do not reblue it or replace the original grips if you want to keep it's collector value.   It's rare to find a HP that doesn't function well with decent ammo if it's clean.  Enjoy!

Even though I'm pretty big guy and wear cargoes with roomy pockets most all the time, anything bigger and/or heavier than my Kahr PM9 with extra mag is just too much for pocket. This with 13 rounds of 124 gr rounds weighs 1lb 10 oz., 4.75 x 6" total outside dimensions. - OS

People in the modern church are paradoxically - more connected, but more isolated. Not because of the church, but because of post-modern lifestyles - transportation, Internet, Facebook, Cell Phones, etc.     Earlier churches were a closer knit community, due to necessity (barn raising, neighborhood schools, crop planting & harvesting, etc).    The function of the elders/deacon was originally focused on elderly widows.  The community took care of the rest of the needs.   What is missing from the equation is the "community" aspect.  Sunday Schools took that role for ages, but now is diminishing.    If you run the number on our church (6000 attendance per week), expecting the staff to attend to all the needs is futile.    Running the numbers from a practical standpoint -   40 staffers * 3600 seconds * 8 hours = 192 seconds a day, per member.  That is 3.2 minutes for *everything* involved in operating our church.   In fact, it is so overwhelming, that we say "Hope you get a small grouper, because if you see a pastor, you probably are on your death-bed"   Some churches, like ours -  rely on "small groups", and it comes back down to communications & participation (otherwise out of sight, out of mind).   It's not that they don't care, it's logistics and being aware.   I hope that it gets better for you and your wife.  Reach out and let the laypersons know of your trials.  You may be pleasantly surprised at their response.

I am a deacon at my church.  I am one of the ones that takes care of about 12 families.  The biggest problem I know of, I don't know what has happened.  Usually by the time I am informed so and so is sick and is in hospital, they are already released.  Not knowing your situation, but I say did someone know at the church, and I mean ether the pastor, deacon or one of the elders?  If not, then the right people probably did not know. 

  Same with school property, only permit holders exempt.   - OS

He needs to call the Lt. Gov., that was not his legislative intent, remember.  He should have taken the job, that then when they fired him, got Ron to stand up for him...

  Was that a.... BURN! ;)

If I recall properly, the law just states you can't be prosecuted for it; especially now that no permit is required to have a handgun in a vehicle. However, an employer can still fire you for any reason they choose.

best thing to do is keep it to yourself.  Always. Don't ask and don't tell. I guess if I did not need the job I might walk away,  but then if I did not need the job why would I care if down the road I got fired for having a gun in my car?

It has fed everything just fine, LSWCs,Jacketed and Plated. Not one problem. I like this gun, it is big and runs like a champ.

Nope, that means you are on the wrong end of the fight.

YES, they make a short barreled weapon legal without the $200 stamp. It allows you to cross state lines(without permission), have a loaded "gun" in your vehicle, and if so inclined open/concealed carried. And, it is decently comfortable.

my Scarabs both lock up extremely tight, there is virtually no play at all, of all the DA OTF knives I have ever owned they are the only ones I could honestly say that about, this is one of the reasons they are my favorite OTF DA knife

  Good stuff. However, i doubt your exhaust fumes are quite as pleasing.... 

I carry a Glock 19 in Afghanistan. Working 12-16 hour days, 6-7 days a week. Primarily working in and out of bearcats. Never once seen a Glock bend, break or do whatever. I have broken a glock and my TL at the time broke his within a week of mine breaking. So, that sucked. But thats another story. Also, I carry a Glock 19 daily when I'm home in the states. Never had an issue with the polymer here either.   You have nothing to worry about with getting in and out of vehicles with your Glock.  

DING! DING! DING! And we have the answer.

I've used both of those methods as well. Then I had a wood dowel split and I then had a bullet AND a wood dowel stuck in the bore. So I don't use wood any more.

Sometimes open carry is good but in most cases I do not want others to know I carry.

Your immediate actions seem correct from your accounting.  Possibly being a little better witness with details may be helpful in this circumstance.  That of course means sticking around if needed.  Let's play 'what if'  an employee had been stabbed...etc.  The information you provided may be crucial in follow-up arrests.

I agree with everything except you getting in your car and riding off.  I would have at least stayed long enough to make sure you weren't needed as a witness.

Nothing. You were not threatened with serious bodily harm or death, and you had no cause to believe that anyone else had either, so it sounds like you did the right thing. Theft of retail merchandise or cash is not worth escalating into a physical confrontation, struggle, or gun fight in which life may be lost, especially if it's not your own. Be hyper aware of your extended surroundings. When something doesn't seem right, immediately leave the area or prepare for the worst. Only draw your gun if you are at imminent risk of serious bodily harm or death, in which case you should be prepared to shoot as soon as the gun is on target. When the potential threat is gone, report any possible crimes or suspicious activities then go on your way.

I think carrying either way should be up to the individual.....not the government. That being said I prefer not  to broadcast to the entire world that I'm armed. Like so many other things in life I feel it's nobody's business.

I like open carry about as much as threads about open carry. :ugh: They are both usually done to stir up #### and see how bad you can make it stink.

About a couple hundred pounds less than a cop

  It was hard to find the right holster for it. It does have a little better penatration than the 9mm and a little more stopping power than the .45.

For that price hopefully it can feed ammo backwards like other HKs.