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That ain't no AR and it looks.....French.

The payments thing is a big deal in a way that no other manufacturer has been able to pull off, yet.  It will probably be the real "game changer" of this release.   You may or may not see a personal need for it, but it moves credit card security into a true two-factor realm.  Something you have( the phone with the card)  and something you are (fingerprint).  The fact that they're tokenized at the phone and the retailer will never see the number is a big deal in light of all of the recent card breaches.   No system is perfect, but this does move the ball forward.

[quote name="Lowpower" post="1188384" timestamp="1410325325"]This is what I carry. It works but I gotta stop to use it unless the wife is driving. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_j0eJ0xB7LU :D[/quote] Pretty much standard. If you don't have this, you're just not prepared. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

This is what I carry. It works but I gotta stop to use it unless the wife is driving.   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_j0eJ0xB7LU     :D

ok so let me sum up this cultural altering announcement:   Apple released a bigger screen - All the other phone manufacturers did that 7 years ago.   Apple released a smartwatch - Other manufacturers have had these on the market for 2+ years now   Apple released a new awesome payment system - called NFC - has been out for years on a bunch of other manufacturer's phones   I love Mac's but forgive me if I don't seem too impressed with Apple "inventing" these awesome new technologies that have all been around for years and years already.

[quote name="bersaguy" post="1188587" timestamp="1410382975"]Before this is over it is going to turn out to be like the Tiger Woods Saga. Young women are going to be getting added to the list almost daily now and it will be up to the DA to discount all of the claims verse what is fact and who is just wanting to get their name in the paper and on the news. If the guy is a monster and described and they can get 1 or 2 Iron clad cases against him and get him put away with Big Bubba for ever I see no sense in wasting tax dollars trying him for all of the many more that will be jumping on the band wagon. When they convict him just say your guilty for all of your actions in these cases and any others and life without parole is your sentence and Bubba is waiting for you.........................jmho[/quote] I strongly disagree. If the other accusations can be proven valid, he should be charged and tried for each one. I don't care if the first charge gives him a life sentence. Each victim deserves justice, and he should be tried for crimes committed against each of them, if this turns out to be true. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

What I've gotten from this thread is ... Many people over estimate the size of their wood ... And The size of you're wood shouldn't be an issue if you know what you're doing with it ...

Take a step a little further back.   There's not a retailer out there right now that isn't struggling with three conversations:  end-to-end encryption, tokenization and hosted payment pages.  If they're not having these conversations in light of the last year's breaches, then they should probably pick up their last check this afternoon and go find something else to do.  I know this, because I facilitate these conversations with dozens of retailers big and small every week.   Everyone knows that the above three items are the right thing to do, but they're struggling with it - for a host of legitimate reasons.  Some of them would buckle under the capital expense of upgrading their POS systems and card terminals.  Some retailers back office systems aren't designed to handle data in that way.  There are still a whole bunch of payment processors who don't support end-to-end encryption or tokenization.  Even with the PCIDSS 3.0 spec (which Target kind of bricked) and next year's liability shift with EMV, a lot of "PCI compliant" merchants are still 18-36 months out from even beginning to secure their environments.  This implementation takes security out of the merchants' hands and lets the individual user have control of their own stuff.   This implementation is significantly different than historic NFC payments for two reasons.  One, it isn't just a novel way of getting your PAN data to a merchant like it has been historically - it's never giving that data to a merchant, period.  This system is a true two-factor authenticated system that enforces true end-to-end encryption.  The merchant never has access to the data.  If they need repeat access, then they receive a tokenized representation that they may reference in the future.  They never see your data, and that's huge since they can't seem to get their junk together to protect it.    I'm looking forward to studying the new chip and spec from an InfoSec perspective, but this is a big step forward.  Apple does have its issues (see JLaw et al last week), and individual customers should spend some time thinking about whether or not they want to give a corporation that much visibility into their spending habits.  That said, it's more than just an Apple rebranding of old tech.

Mine's not quite that nice, I had to use a manhole cover for my lid    But it's a TACTICAL manhole cover! :rock:

Pets are great gifts from God, especially dogs. Always loyal and friendly, eager and playful, protective yet gentle, clever and hardworking, and giving unconditional love while expecting very little in return except basic food, water, and shelter. The only sad thing about them is that they don't live very long compared to humans, many of whom are much worse behaved than even the most troublesome pets. Losing a pet for many of us is like losing a family member, and I have often thought that their short lifespan might also be an intentional gift from God. While the loss of a pet is terribly difficult to accept, it does help us learn how to grieve and deal with such losses before we suffer even greater losses later in life. And while we don't get to keep our pets for too long, we do get the joy of adopting and raising multiple new pets numerous times during our lifetime. I firmly believe that looking into a loving dog's eyes is like looking into a small part of heaven, and that always reminds me that God is behind and inside of each and every one of these precious gifts.

From the Dad of one of the victims.   But Mr. Sauser says this is not about race. This is about the the breakdown of the American family. And he said there needs to be a national conversation about the issue. “No one talks about this,” he said. “There’s no family structure — kids who’ve never had a dad. What kind of life is that? Not a single person can replace your dad — not a single person can. These kids have to have families.” Nevertheless, a crime has been committed — and someone must pay. “Somebody’s got to be held accountable,” he said. “Somebody’s got to be responsible.” Life in the Sauser household is slowly returning to normal. Their resilient son is returning to school today -- and when he’s ready -- he plans to return to his job bagging groceries at Kroger. “He’s going to be OK,” Mr. Sauser said. “He’s going to be fine.” That’s because the 17-year-old clarinet player with a penchant for building computers has something money cannot buy — a family.   http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2014/09/09/memphis-attack-father-weeps-over-video-badly-beaten-son/

Why exactly are we carrying handcuffs?    As "intuitive" it might seem to put someone in handcuffs, (I mean really just apply to wrists and close right?)  there is A LOT that can go wrong when you go place yourself within arms reach of someone.   Generally speaking police would like to have 2 people there when cuffing someone. One is the cuffer and one is the cover man.  So now what are you doing with your gun? Holstering it? OK. So you now take your gun out of play in order to close with and apply cuffs to someone who was previously trying to cripple or kill you? Really?   Frankly , as a civilian if you can get away, that is plan A...plan B... and C. We are not empowered to arrest people. We either avoid 'em, run 'em off, or damage them to the point that they stop what they are doing.   You have no duty to detain people and if you have not had any practice and training in detaining people that can go very badly very quickly if they feign compliance long enough to get you within arms reach. And you applying hand cuffs requires you to get within less than arms reach......   There is a reason that cops spend a fair amount of time practicing cuffing people in the academy. Cuffing a resisting adversary by yourself is a lot different than cuffing a compliant and eager girlfriend.....

Just got off of the phone with David and he's pretty sad. Lost his dog that he's had since it was two days old! Said he brought it home in his shirt pocket, and fed it with an eye dropper. So, I'll bet all of us can cheer him up a little by posting our sympathies for the loss of his well loved dog. Many of us have lost a dog at one time in our lives, and know it can be like loosing a family member. How about it TGOers, please post one for David.   EDIT: This is the David that gives us great deals on powder and bullets...DLM37015.

This is the M85 I picked up a few months ago. And after getting a trust from John Wells I decided to do the right thing and SBR it. First I refinished the stocks in a brown satin but it never really appealed to me. So over the past few days I decided to refinish the stocks. The new version is a lot more red and more glossy. Here is what it used to look like And what it looks like now I purchased a M92, 7.62x39 version, and when it gets here it will get the full tactical treatment.

EM50 urban assault vehicle

  Security breeches have nothing to do with PCI standards.  The PCIDSS audits are how most of these breeches are discovered - it's 101 level info security stuff.  The PCI SSC is made up of people from those huge companies and top execs from the payment card companies; they're the ones who set the standards across the board.  If a company (Walmart, target, pf chang's etc) doesn't want to comply with their requirements, they will not be allowed to accept payment from ANY major credit card company (Visa, MC, AMEX, Discover).   This group has mandated the implementation of EMV's on credit cards by October 2015 - same transaction principles that the NFC chips provide; "tokenization".  These have also been out on credit cards for years and years.  So again, Apple did not create anything new, nor are they controlling the market in any way.  Apple has almost no influence (by itself) on how the PCI regulates itself and never will.  The only thing Apple is really good at, is getting people to believe they are on the cutting edge of something, while actually using history books to develop their new products.

He's certainly exercising his right to keep and bare arms. (I'm sure that's not the first time that comment has been made to this photo)

[quote name="Raoul" post="1188210" timestamp="1410303753"]I'm pretty sure that whatever Apple does or doesn't do there will be little if any effect on my life. No offense. IMHO America will ultimately fall because our internet connection goes down.[/quote] Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

So sorry for your loss. We had rescue dogs for the past 29 years. We have watched them come and pass on. Every single one of them is a lost friend. One thing I've found is a replacement buddy will never replace one you lost but will add one more friend to share your life with. This is a wonderful poem that might help. Lp

Just to keep this thread alive, here is a pic of Allen West with a sweet new forearm tat. This might prevent him from getting a job at the Huffington Post: Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I'll hold my applause until the verdict's in and sentences are passed.

sorry for your loss David.  Too a lot of us pets are family.   I am pretty sure there is another puppy out there that needs you.    You probably need him/her too.

When I retire from the Army, I was asked what were the biggest changes that I had seen over the 30+ years.   -  We got around better at night (NVGs). -  We didn't get lost as often (GPS). -  And the women now had more tattoos than an Airborne Command Sergeant Major.

White can bring out highlights! Fugettaboutit !

I think about this all the time too, but more towards doors and windows. Not saying I'm happy that rounds will go through the house, but once a window is broke it's broke. Once someone busts the front door it's busted, although you can block it with other items even if not as sturdy. I'm far enough away from Nashville that the worst of it would hopefully not make it to me until I had time to get moved to the planned hold up location. That of course depends on gridlocked highways and whatnot.    But as mentioned above, I'll be shooting back....heavily!

Those range owners are a bunch of shotgun racists.

here you go. :devil:

Yes, I also cannot edit your posts.  Sorry...

I want to like the new design, but both will stick out of the rear pocket of a pair of 501s.    I laughed at a hipster the other day as he was contorting himself and trying with both hands to get his big ol' Galaxy S5 into the pocket of his skinny jeans.  Maybe he was a prophet...

Most so called riots today are people against the Police or people focused on looting stores and not on people trying not to get involved. Like Jonnin stated. Real riots have not been around for a long time and in a real riot they are avoidable in most cases as long as you remain out of the inner cities. A high capacity Glock 9mm and a JR using same magazines should get you home safely. Also considering the area in which you and wife are employed would not really be a place a riot would be likely to break out............jmho

NFC has been out for years, but Apple has the ability to move payments forward in ways that others have not. And, it's really just because they're Apple and retailers want to get on that bus.  Tokenization at the local level and true two factor payments are a big deal.  Apple avoided NFC forever, and I suspect it was because they couldn't control the whole ecosystem.  With the touch sensor, they can.   We'll see if it takes off, but I think it's a step in the right direction.

Who says I waited?  I had pretty much decided to go with the P64 anyway. Saw this as a sign.  I'll pick up a Tokarev somewhere down the line.

I'm convinced ya may have handed us (...and you...) the answer in a post above... Ya need some sort of roll or bag to rest the reciever and barrel with if ya are shootin off a bench... The weapon needs to be hoisted up enough to where it (...including the magazine...) is not touching the bench in any way when ya pull the trigger.... Lots of time i'll use a roll under the front and a bean bag in the rear to rest the stock...   If ya do that and keep the rifle from contacting the bench, i think ya will be surprized at how the groups improve... The rifle needs to be supported the same way (...as much as ya can...) every time ya pull the trigger in order to check out their accuracy potential...    leroy

[quote name="monkeylizard" post="1188348" timestamp="1410319717"]Never. Way too much money to be made there. Keep in mind that California's economy by itself would rank it as #8 ion the world if it were its own county. No major retailer would leave that kind of market over a $1.6 million slap.[/quote] It's not just this law. Compiled with everything else the cost of doing business in Cali is substantially higher than any other state.

If you don't know that a 2 x 4 is 1.5" by 3.5" or that an 8" block is 15 5/8 by 7 5/8, you should probably leave it to a professional. This is a bogus suit from a money hungry state. What complete bullshit. And mike, car tires is a bad example. You take 5 different companies 31 x 10.50's and they will all measure different when mounted on identical rims with identical pressures. Also, good luck with pressure treated lumber. It might leave the store at 1 5/8 or 1 3/4 thick and shrink to size or smaller. Also, how will they now reference 5/4 deck boards? This is just as bad as people who have never shot a firearm making gun laws.

[quote name="DaveTN" post="1188222" timestamp="1410305239"] I figured if you pull a weapon to protect yourself you better be ready for incoming rounds. I bet there was more than one gun in that crowd of thugs.[/quote] That's always a possibility, but I suppose when it's a choice of being beaten to death or shot, I'd take the option where I have some degree of control on the situation. Also, having had experience being shot at by cowards, they tend to turn tail and run when effective fire comes their way. I don't. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

  1961. The original true 2"x4" measurements were for green wood. The boards shrank as they dried, so you never really got 2"x4" for finished products. Different species and conditions of wood shrink differently, so the final product was inconsistent. The current standards call for 1 1/2" x 3 1/2" for the finished dry product. The mills today know how much each species will shrink based on its current moisture content, so they cut the green wood as large as they need to so that the dried product ends up at that 1.5"x3.5" size. Over time the dimensions have changed, but the current ones were settled in 1961 by the Committee on Grade Simplification and Standardization.   You can still get true 2"x4" green lumber. You just won't find it outside of a real lumber yard.   This worthless information was brought to you today by the letters J and Q and by the number 9.*           *Also known as Wikipedia.

You can't cheer up a man that's lost his dog. Only time will mend that, and then only sorta.

I predict the AppleWatch will be the biggest technology bust of the 21st century.

  Whatever Apple does, Google will do just as intrusively on privacy, but more user friendly.  No way only one company gets a monopoly on a digital payment system like that.   I don't own iAnything, but I also don't like the Google Knows Best attitude they have.  But I use Android products since I can alter the OS as I please.  I run Cyanogenmod on my phone in place of Android OS and also have my tablet rooted.   I'll never give up a real wrist watch for some fancy gadget like watch, though.  That's one idea I'm just not going to get on-board with.

  This is nothing more than a government shakedown.  It is the only way to explain the abusdity of this case.

  All of that is far different point of view than the purely counterfeited knives in your first post. There's a significant diff between "knock off/copy" and outright "counterfeit".   - OS

It was a joke which lampoons the mental pretzel liberal media will twist themselves in to generate the stories that they put out. They could turn a story of Mitt Romney donating a kidney to a mentally handicapped, transgendered lesbian Nigerian woman into how he is hateful monster who eats babies. It's a gift. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

  The one with the hole in his chest.

No, you should shoot the people attacking you. No.

Biggest tips I can offer on algae prevention are:  1)  Frequent partial water changes.  The end product of the nitrogen cycle is nitrate.  Most plant food is nitrogen based.  Less nitrate = less plant food.  2)  Limit your lighting if you can.  If you're not trying to grow live plants and there's nothing else in the tank that uses photosynthesis, turn the light off when you're not watching the fish.  I typically only run my light for about an hour in the morning around feeding time and maybe 2-3 hours in the evening when I'm hanging out in the living room doing the evening feeding and watching the fish.     Those two tips will take care of a lot of the problem.  If the algae bothers you, I'd still recommend old fashioned mechanical removal.  Too easy to create a chemical soup to no real good purpose.     Finally, as you've no doubt figured out, you're way overstocked.  IMHO, 3 fancy goldfish really need at least a 75 gallon aquarium.  The greater water volume will also keep your nitrate levels lower all other things being equal and help with the algae situation.  

  Stop reading my mind :up:   Yes, if you look at the disintegration of American society since, say the 1960's and look at it today, we're not the same civilized society. As the exponential rate of our moral values decline and we slip into a nation of depravity and use owes me... It's not very promising for us, much less our children and grandchildren.

Does anyone know how to clean bloodstains at the DNA level and where to get lye in bulk? No reason, just asking. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I am one of those who has more than a couple of tattoos. I have several on my forearms but I understood when I got them that I would possibly have to cover them if need be for employment. As far as the expense, it can vary greatly and you can usually tell who spent a lot of money on their ink and who didn't with a quick glance. Good work isn't cheap, cheap work isn't good. I'm a fan of the art form and if given a choice, I am much more likely to spend $500 on a tattoo than a gun.