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I am rather speechless.. I came home and he had a carport build for my car  With the help of a few  TGO`ers    I know who was up here and did this..I cant say thank you enough.. This is from the bottom of my heart..THANK YOU.!!. i cant  say thank you enough and he said  you guys would not take any money.But he did say that you would enjoy a good German home cooked meal.I  will do that..Lets get together up here and I will make Schnitzel and all the fixin`s. .. I think the last get together we roasted a whole pig, but that was like 6 years ago..So we are overdue..WAY OVERDUE...     I want to thank you all.. I love you  guys..Now Betty ( yes, her name is Betty  :D , has a place to sleep..:)    Will let ya all know the time when :)      Petra               

  My viewpoint is that it is her house and property and she had every right - legal and otherwise - to be there.  Claiming that she is somehow 'culpable' because she had the audacity to go into her own property is ludicrous, to me.  The person who was illegally there is the one who is culpable and, thankfully, the one who got dead.   Should she have waited for the police to arrive and make sure all was clear?  Would that have been the smarter thing to do?  Maybe.  Should she be considered somehow 'culpable' for entering her own property?  Absolutely not.  To my mind that is one of the major problems in this country - we no longer seem to recognize that the person who is committing the crime and illegally entering another person's residence, in this case Trevon, is 100% responsible for the outcome when they get killed as a result of their crime.

I deprime after tumbling, why do a extra step not needed with dry media.

I don't reload to save money.  I reload to get more accurate ammo.  Unless you are shooting thousands of rounds a year, there is not really a payback.

The cost savings for me is the ability to store the components easier and cheaper than storing/hoarding finished product. Also, when I store the components, I am potentially storing multiple calibers, vs if I had to buy and store separate finished ammo.

I forgot to show y'all my new decoy hat. "So he cocked both his pistols, spit in the dirt, and walked out in to the street."

Top left- Wyatt Earp Top right- Virgil Earp Lower left - Morgan Earp Lower right- John Doc Holliday

I never think of the cost of reloading equipment as part of the cost of each round. To me its more of a long term investment. I load for 7-8 calibers now and that list will only grow with time. I have about as much in reloading equip as 2 or 3 quality guns. When I got in I tried to do it on the cheap with low cost equipment. Some I still have and like, some was so frustrating that I moved on to better gear.   For a single stage press the best investment I ever made was a Forester Co-Ax. It simply can't be beat unless you are loading 50cal. A good progressive for the pistol stuff, and I'm set. I can load 223 on the Co-Ax now, but may upgrade the progressive to it and never look back.   The equipment makes shooting generally cost less, and when its raining and I don;t want to shoot I reload for the next time. It's not all about cost per round. I get satisfaction out of the process as well.   When ammo is cheap I buy it and save the brass to reload. Sometimes I sell/trade the brass for stuff I need.   This model doesn't work for everyone, but I'm quite happy with it!

Money isn't an issue in reloading for me. I can load higher quality ammo than I can buy, and can also tailor a load to a specific gun. I can also shoot obscure calibers I wouldn't be able to shoot if I didn't reload.

I decided to get very serious about reloading on January 20, 2009. Prior to that I just fiddlefarted around with it.

TGO very well may be the greatest place on earth. Congratulations on the new carport.

How about marriage? That's my savings lol, if I'm in the basement reloading then I'm out of her hair and giving her a break from me, so it makes her want to kill me less.

Like Prag, I may not have been there when "Todd was born" but I was there soon after and saw him"take his first steps". In fact Todd is probably a pretty close approximation of Sebastian (Belisarius)  if you know anything about his background. And the concept has driven a lot of my own personal training.     The "Todd" concept is in large part a cautionary tale that no matter how bad you are (or think you are ...look up "Kruger-Dunning Effect") there is always someone out there that has scraped parts of badder people than you off his shoe.     And Todd is not a LIKELY opponent for most people (but then again no one would have guessed Ohio State running back Maurice Clarett would be jacking people in an alley at gunpoint  just a few years after scoring the winning touchdown in the National Championship game in 2003.....). But there are a lot of HARD dudes working for cartels just south of the border and they DO conduct business in the US. Think about some of the guys that make up the Zetas (former Mexican Special Forces trained at the School of the Americas by US Special Forces and now they run their own cartel).....they are NOT the typical crackhead out to score another rock.    The point is that assuming the guy who tries to victimize you will crumple and fold when you offer a little resistance is frankly dangerous. I expect them to be better trained, better armed, better skilled, stronger and faster than me....and I train for THAT....not for the lowest common denominator. So when I get the LCD criminal it is a cakewalk....and if I get "Todd" I'm not expecting "easy" and I'm at least as well prepared as my lifestyle will allow. 

OK Guys   everyone is paid off and knives are being built and I should be getting these bad boys out to you all by the end of April, they will be worth the wait I assure you

Comic book post - not a spoiler since the episode has aired. In the comic Eugene found an actual Reloading setup. I forget now if it was a gun store setup or one of those small ammo manufacturer shops, but they were able to sit down and start cranking out ammo almost immediately and came in very useful.

NO disrespect Caster but quit thinking logically.  This is a TV show about post apocalyptic life complete with zombies.  We are gun people here that are more firearm savvy than maybe the average viewer just accepts as plausible because of their ignorance to all things firearm related.  I do agree a complete machine shop is not necessary  because like you say there should be a fair amount of ammo still stashed in peoples homes and in retail stores.  I'm sure the store supplies would disappear quicker but surely there are some that remain untouched or maybe I'm way off on that one.  Using the same thought process there should be sporting good and gun shops that have reloading equipment for the taking.  My first thought when Eugene explained his vision of producing ammunition was what about powder and primers.  The same place they would scavenge these items there should be reloading equipment as well.   As for the Doctor Denise, all I have to say about that is, she never saw it coming! :biglol:

I just watched it. The doc was just starting to become a stronger player. Did she have a connection to the baby? I know Dennis was her twin brother, but what about the baby... younger sibling or unspecified? Daryl got his bike back and now the crossbow! I think we'll see some war next episode. I wonder if Carol will come back again to save the day Did Eugene go nuts or what? :rofl:

OK, time to mix the non gun thread up a little to The Old West. Below we have a pair of cattle rustling shoes

If you had to choose between Constitutional carry with the present restrictions that we have VS unrestricted permit carry (basically legal in any location you carry whether it is a store or school), which would you choose?   I personally would choose to pay for the handgun carry permit and carry anywhere legally without restrictions VS the constitutional carry with the various gun free area restrictions.

Both are 5/32" thick 1095 carbon steel that have been double etched and have mosaic pins. This one has a matched set on mesquite scales and thumb jimping on the spine. This one has a nice set of mahogany scales and some filework on the spine..

The April IDPA match will be a Classifier only match.  Per the IDPA rulebook, Rule 9.8.1, you MUST be a Current IDPA member to shoot the classifier. You may join IDPA by going to www.idpa.com   Registration is open at: https://practiscore.com/cleveland-tn-idpa-classifier-april-2016/register   This match will run a little different than our normal IDPA matches; We will not have regular squads as usual.  Instead, we will divide into 5 groups to begin, then after you shoot a stage, you may move on to another stage immediately, or at your leisure. The Classifier is a 90 round, limited match, divided into 3 - 30rd stages.  The plan as of right now, (subject to change), is to have Stage 1 set up on Bays 2, 4, and 5.  Stage 2 will be set up twice on Bay 1 to allow two shooters to shoot one right after the other before scoring both.  And Stage 3 will be set up twice on Bay 3.   We will have Safety Officers assigned to each stage to run everyone through, then the SO's will shoot after everyone else is done.   We still need at least 4 more safety officers to help with the match. If you are certified Safety Officer and willing to help run this match and stay until everyone else has shot, please indicate so when you register.   Hopefully this way, we will get everyone through fairly quickly.

Here's two famous lawmen. Well the first one was a real U.S. deputy marshal, he doesn't get the credit he deserves, he even arrested his own son. Bass Reeves, arrested around 3000, killed up to 14 in self defense. [url=http://smg.photobucket.com/user/JMH42/media/Bass%20Reeves_zpsvfytmvp5.jpg.html][/URL] [url=http://smg.photobucket.com/user/JMH42/media/Festus3.jpg.html][/URL]

I also seen this on another site,  there I commented that the words on the dust cover absolutely don't mean what the lawyer says it means.  And while I agree that it was a poor decision to put it on his AR, not withstanding facts in the shooting, I don't think that decision should dictate his character.   I also remarked how we had scopes with Bible verses on it, and had to return them.  I also have seen comments written on some of our missiles and bombs headed to war time targets.  Poor decisions?  Maybe, but at the time it made sense.

Wish I could find a faux silencer for this.....

Looks cool mostly. I suppose it COULD help a little with muzzle rise by having that weight on the end of the barrel like that, but that's not the primary purpose. This is in the handgun section so I am assuming you meant on handguns. On some rifles I can kind of see it because guns like Kriss Vector or a MP5 just look really weird with a 16" legal barrel and at that point it's more of a barrel shroud than a fake suppressor.

I don't know how I will react if anything happens to Kasey that would require me to make a decision that would require losing her. We have been best friend's for over 16 years. She goes with me every where I go and she thinks the jeep belongs to her and she lets me drive her around. I have a few very close buddy's and one of them mentioned his concern about the companionship there is between me and the mutt but he said I am afraid if I lose either one of you I will lose both. If anything should happen to me he will be the one that will take over her care. He knows all of the special things I do for her such as cooking her foods and only giving her Jacks Links jerky snacks. She gets nothing dog food related cause I won't let the Chinese poison my mutt.

Front row left to right: Harry A. Longabaugh, alias the Sundance Kid, Ben Kilpatrick, alias the Tall Texan, Robert Leroy Parker, alias Butch Cassidy; Standing: Will Carver, alias News Carver, & Harvey Logan, alias Kid Curry; Fort Worth, Texas, 1900. "The Wild Bunch"

I struggled with the cost narrative for 20+ years.  Then Sandy Hook happened, and the ammo all dried up.  I threw out the ROI, and changed the prism I looked through from a cost model to a necessity model.  I basically went from zero of having nothing to having everything I would ever need to reload every caliber I had, and I purchased probably a lifetime supply of primers, bullets, brass, all within a month along with the capital to reload.  I have never regretted, and I learned so much after reloading about 10+ different calibers.  Now fast forward to now.  Its great that I have all those supplies, plus I have a choice to buy factory or reload, and I have the experience and knowledge to reload.  Never again will be caught with my pants down!

If there is a product you wish to look at they will let you.  I have done that with a rifle case, a powder trickler and a couple of AR parts.  Their catalog is available in print for free too, and their site lets you save a wish list; all in all a good place to buy.

At the moment I can't, I can reload for about .25 cents a round due to all the brass I have.    Some of the bulk ammo out there runs around .35 cents a round, http://ammunitionstore.com/products/223-5-56x45-ammo-55gr-fmj-federal-american-eagle-ae223bl-500-round-case.html (may be cheaper out there)   Brass I have seen between .06 to .08 cents a case in lots of 500 or so, so if you don't have brass you can come close but with shipping and or taxes you may be better off one way or another.   I use a reloading calculator on my phone (one online) to make a baseline of the costs associated with the calibers I reload for, that way I can make a quick decision (because they sell fast) on if it is worth the sales price to me.

UPDATE----Applying to TICS denied ... I filed appeal... other posts said Call TBI?? Well today I talked to court... and expungement moving forward as I am no longer in the LOCAL clerks computer.... I will get my Packet in 2 weeks.... then all agencies and TBI notified and TBI supposed to Tell FBI.... so hopefully the Guns are still at the FFL waiting for me (as he was not original dealer) and they are paid for... **If I paid and own guns, what happens If FFL sold guns that he didn't own??? *** TBI did tell me that once I have the Packet, go get the background check done again and if denied, fax appeal with a copy of the Expungement papers and all should be good to go This was all with only ever being arrested once EVER and that case was RETIRED, so no convictions EVER... ( the court clerk said my lawyer should have done the expungement immediately on the retirement date... HE DID NOT... so hopefully I will have my G19's in about a month... will keep you posted

I reload for the giggles of it; not the savings.

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A full cartridge is the coin of the land. I am going to carve that into my reloading bench.

That's me. LOL

To complement the above post;   https://youtu.be/efFo-Clq844

BS; first, Todd having the mental toughness and mental discipline to do all that is probably somebody on your side. Todd, wants to go home at the end of the day, Todd does not want your measly $20 you may have in your wallet, and Todd, having undergone all that training is probably doing all this overseas to the same people that we all want to have it done to. No, Todd is not the guy you need to worry about; it's Fred Crackhead, and Mohammed Martyr which pose the greatest risk. Fred, wakes around 1pm after a night shooting up heroin or smoking crack. He needs another fix, he has honed his skill by shoplifting, breaking into cars and houses. He doesn't really care if anyone is there or not, his only goal is the next fix. He started off carrying a piece of pipe someone threw out, upgraded to a knife in one of the home burglaries then scored a nice 1911 when he broke into a truck looking for loose change, he was almost caught though, but he managed to give the owner the slip. Fred has now decided that loose change just isn't cutting it, he decides to go for the big score so he picks a nice store to rob, and look there is a sign out front letting him know that nobody inside will confront him. So he begins his robbery when what do you know, the trucks owner just walked in... Mohammed, wakes at 4am tired and restless from the long flight the night before. He has just completed a 6 month course in Somalia where they taught him hand to hand combat, how to shoot rifles handguns and RPGs. John, I mean Mohammed, mustn't make that mistake again; it could mean his head...Mohammed has come back home to the US. He was born in Michigan, dated a high school cheerleader, worked his dad's farm, but became dissolutioned after graduation, thought Obama was going to fix things, after all he is one of them. But listening to his heroes Cleric Anwar al-Awlaki and the Rev. Jeremiah Wright he has come to the realization that only he can strike a blow for Allah. So he straps on a his vest made just like his explosives instructor taught him using dynamite his dad was planning on using for those stumps in the new pasture and loads his equipment into the old ford. His chosen targets, the local water supply, his friend Thomas, err I mean Maliki, brought over some powder to dump into the pumping station, it's right by the stadium where the big homecoming game is scheduled to be played. He knows security will be light, after all nothing can happen here, but he has had a friend supply him with a new AK-47 just in case...

I'm not going to Knob Creek, but I'll likely be going to The Strategic Edge Machine Gun Shoot on April 9th.

I have kids. I can't ever justify spending that kind of money on a pet. I had to put down two animals this year. Both were very old and sick so I had them put down rather than expensive tests to figure out something I already knew. Whatever was wrong with them was likely not going to be fixed without extensive vet bills and they would likely die of old age soon any way. I balled my eyes out for each of them but when it's time it's time. Sent from the Fortress of Solitude.

Here she is! Off to the range tonight....

Another useless thread.

Time to board the plane. [URL=http://smg.photobucket.com/user/JMH42/media/Lions_zpswneno4ug.jpg.html][/URL]

Well, when you are raised by government and basically taught there is no accountability for any action, everything is given to people and the culture around you is based on nothing but crime and corruption with no consequences in most ghetto homes, there you go. An entire subculture of takers is born and they can't differentiate between taking handouts or stealing from someone with more than them, or even less. 

I started looking for redneck humor and was surprised at the things that have applied to me personally in my life. Here they are: I haven't done this with a Dorito's bag, but have done this with red tape as a kid. When I was a kid doing manual labor, I spent a lot of brakes in a wheel barrow like this. Might look redneck, but sure is comfortable. There are good reasons that I quit drinking 15 years ago and this is one of them. Hey, I'm a farm kid. We always had five or six dogs. I've used vice grips like this as well as shower handles plenty when I was younger.

Great cover, in my humble opinion. [media]https://youtu.be/u9Dg-g7t2l4[/media]

Thanks fellas!  I am super excited.  He's going to be a boy!  Hopefully he will be a good hunting buddy down the road.  Time will tell I guess.       I've told my wife she needs to start walking backwards everywhere to help delay the birth till after turkey season....she wasn't as amused as I was!  LOL 

Maybe we should start TGO.TV and have our own reality program. First episode: TGO members take the Wonderful Whites of West Virginia to the gun range. He'll I'd pay a subscription fee to watch that! lolol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etD0Y_8vyxg