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:lol: Alright you two. Knock it off. Back to topic, as someone who has faced real discrimination based on sexual orientation by being discharged under DADT (long story)I wouldn't call what took place there real discrimination. A private entity chose not to provide his services to a couple of folks based on personal convictions, boohoo. Unless this baker engaged in actions that caused identifiable harm to the couple like accepting the order and then reneging at the last moment, or calling all the other bakers in town and having them blackballed because they were a couple of 'mos then leave the poor man alone. To the couple in question I would ask why they feel the need to have the approval of everyone to the point of taking folks to court so that they can get some one to officially say they are just as good as everyone else. It speaks to deep seated insecurities in my opinion. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

He's a sneaky sumbitch. The Daves are never gonna get any justice :)

When you're confused at everything listed in the "You know you're old when..." thread

This guy publishes a lot.  Weak scholarship, poor research.  He's been passed over and is both screaming for attention and trying to pad his curriculum vitae, hoping for a spot in some lefty think tank.  If he didn't wear the same uniform as a hell of a lot of better men, I'd just ignore him.  Considering that he's using that uniform to push a viewpoint counter to the constitution, I'd like to see him forced to retire - or court martialed and thrown out on his arse.

http://www.ijreview.com/2013/12/99867-u-s-air-force-band-goes-flash-mob-smithsonian-delight-visitors/

When you see casters name and it reminds you of the time your mom gave you caster oil.

Got mine in today, thank you!   255gr Buffalo Bore +p 45's   Always wanted to try some of this weight, but was too cheap to get 'em.  Darn things are heavy enough I really think you could knock someone down just by throwing it at them  :rofl:

It's called a 'charging' handle, because these days, every time you use it it costs fifty bucks.

  Robert, you misinterpret what I am saying.  I have no problem with the baker following his beliefs to justify his actions.   I was referring to other people bringing in their religious views to either affirm or criticize the baker's actions.  It is best to leave religion out one's argument.   I do not like discrimination, but I support people's right to discriminate unless it infringes upon someone else's life, liberty, etc...  I just think that free people and the free markets can do a much better job of handling discrimination than the heavy hand of government.

No help to you but Walmart in cool springs had two (700) round ammo cans for $497 and several ore smaller packs. .......$500 for 700 rounds? People are frickin crazy!!!!!

One thing I do know is that I should have stayed out of this thread.  My post, #141, has gotten me in the dog house with my girlfriend.  "I can't believe that you think people should have the right to discriminate."    I don't mind arguing/debating with you guys, I at least stand some chance of causing someone to rethink their position.  With my girlfriend, even if I win the argument, I still lose.  It makes no sense fighting battles you can't win.   :lol:

Folks, one of my most enjoyable hobbies is the making and smoking of Hams, Bacons and Sausages of all kinds. In the summer of 2012 I carried some Wild Boar Bacon to east TN for a TGO get together and thought a fight was going to break out over the last piece! It was fun! Those that have been following my posts on the other hunting threads know that I haven't hunted lately due to the cold and now ice. So, I have been manning the "smoke house" making Bacon, Buckboard Bacon and Canadian Bacon. I would like to share a few pics... Here's a few slabs... Canadian Bacon on the left and slab bacon on the right Final cuts ^ ^ ^ Bacon Buckboard Bacon Canadian Bacon Cooked for testing... And yes...it is freaking awesome!!!! Dave

Get one with a full sized door, not a "c" section zipper, you should have seen me trying to my big azz in one last year with all my gear. Luckily no video was made.

Well.. at least the guy who got banned send his off.. before he got banned.. ;p

I use a Primos Blind Luck ground blind.  It is plenty large enough for 2 people and gear.  Keeps the rain off of you, conceals you well and it is easy to set up!  Make sure you have set one up before you plan on using it.  The first time I tried to set one up in my living room (not a primos) my dog left the room because of the things she heard me say!     http://www.cabelas.com/product/Primos-Blind-Luck-Hub-Blind/1370491.uts

When people keep yelling at you to get off their lawn.

They can keep Busch too. Hell, Carter, Clinton, Obama, and Bush. Get Pelosi, Biden and Feinstein on there and hope they all never come back.

Hell?

Nope, I would respect his right to refuse me. Then walk down the street and go to the gun friendly baker. Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk

  ....and you think it's free money. 

Having kids lets you be young again. I just got to play dinosaurs and hide and go seek.

O wait...when you can write your name with pee.

The idea of refusing to serve someone because of religious beliefs can lead to messy assumptions. In this case there was no hiding the fact that the cake purchasers were gay and the baker has religious objections to gay marriage. In most cases it's hard to know if someone is an adulterer, fornicator, child molester, thief, murderer, etc. His other potential customers don't walk in his door celebrating sins to which he has religious beliefs against and the occasion for his services isn't centered around a ceremony that he feels makes a mockery of what he likely views as a religious bond.    That's the problem I see with people claiming Christians pick and choose which sins they take a stance against. Most people don't advertise and/or celebrate their sins. I'm sure there are some here that would deny that he would refuse to make a "There is no God" cake for an atheist party or even a "God Hates Fags" cake for the Westboro Baptist Church idiots. I, for one, suspect he would.   The reason this comes to light with the gay community so often is because they don't recognize homosexuality as a sin and are so "in your face" about their lifestyle that it's impossible not to see.

The only alternative currency I'll ever invest in is gold coins. ;)

Ill go first then. Got mine today. Thanks alot secret santa! I swear whoever you are, you have mind reading abilities because i was going to get that jerky seasoning variety pack myself! That same exact one! I was looking at it on cabelas or bass pro's website a couple weeks ago. Also it just so happens i have a perfect ar candidate for the flip up sights as well. Again, thanks!

IMHO. In this day and age, a constitutional convention would scare the pants off of me. Let's not hope for desperate measures that could very well back fire on U.S.

They have courses available, maybe we can get a TGO group rate :)   http://www.americandefenseenterprises.com/classes.htm

Its actually from the future, referring to laser and electrical weaponry:   The Terminator: Phased plasma rifle in the 40-watt range.

Well... lets think about this.    Attacking *anyone*  is probably insane (I use this term as a non shrink and actually as a person who does not believe in shinkery as a valid science), excluding self defense or defense of another.   Talking just going out to attack someone either out of boredom/meanness or to take their lunch money or whatever the "reason".   Thuggery, if you will.   I would even go so far as to label a thief (apart from stealing food, basic death vs survival type desperation) as mentally ill.    That would mean that everyone who goes on a shooting spree is, to some degree, mentally ill, logically.  I include here muggers and anyone who harms another person for any reason other than self defense.   If you accept *that* premise, then 99.99999999 % of "insane" (as defined above) idiots who attack other human beings were undiagnosed and untreated.   They either snapped or were "driven to it (whatever that means -- presumably environmental factors that cause a person to lose it)" or  are psychopathic (believe that their personal satisfaction is so important it justifies harm to others).     So, we have a 0.0000000000000001 % chance of actually detecting a mentally ill person who may someday in the future commit a violent act.    Therefore no law will have ANY effect on violent activity.    Therefore there is nothing to discuss until we can detect, diagnose, and cure mental illness reliably, which we cannot currently do.  

I desperately await the day that domestic Islamic fundamentalism encroaches on liberal agendas. I think it would make the talking heads on msnbc explode.

I wonder where this would all be if the baker had been Muslim?

Here a pic from the stand a couple days before but I was in the exact same spot but the stand was rotated to my right a little bit yesterday. If you look at the very right side of the photo you can see the edge of a cedar thicket and she was standing about 10yds out of it when I made the shot. The pic is a bit distorted because of using the panoramic setting. and to give you an idea, the cedars she was standing near are 15' maybe 20' tall so I may have been a bit further above here than I thought. BTW the reason I hunt this particular spot is because it is one of the clearer portions in that particular area but there is briers and scrub brush cover most of this area but it doesn't really show up. I can't remember which photobucket link to use so i'll post both :pleased: http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn158/lukeduke_03/Treestandlocation.jpg [URL=http://s303.photobucket.com/user/lukeduke_03/media/Treestandlocation.jpg.html][/URL]

Your balls float when you sit on the toilet

Hey I've got some tarp, we could hit the junkyard and start a business. Fat Ass Armor, "we cover your butt, all of it".

I think her credibility went when she started having a relationship with Zman.

Yikes Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 of course it ate my spelling.

Had to think a bit did ya? :rofl: Best post today.

The "incident" happened in Pennsylvania but the report came from the UK. Is the Main stream media going to ignore this too? 

This is par for the course for those fuckwits. They get no benefit of the doubt from me. However, as bad as they are, I don't want them going anywhere. Until the bad laws the ATF enforces are gone, I will take their incompetence over a competent and much more ruthless FBI any day. So I say be thankful for the incompetence of the ATF and pray it sticks around until those laws are gone.

There is another benefit to using red over white in that when you switch it off, your night vision isn't blown as much as it would be using white.

I ended up taking a big doe.

At the same time why be so insensitive?

Just a fyi...   A friend owns a shop. He and his employees carry on premises as he is an FLL.  Last Monday a trio in hoods, masks and the leader with a gun tried to rob the place. The employee working noticed something fishy outside the glass door and had his hand on his holstered pistol. In they came, pistol waving everywhere. He grabbed plastic and got a round off before his gun jammed open. Shoot went high, and wide left into the wall. Luckily for him the dudes where climbing all over themselves running out the door.   There are three ways of looking at it. 1) No one got hurt. 2) Those young kids learned a lesson that didn't cost them their lives.  3) The guy didn't kill a kid but needs to learn how to shoot.   Lastly, I said he grabbed plastic because it was a Glock.  That's the second time I've had a friend with a Glock that locked open on firing and a very good reason I've never owned nor will own a Glock.   The other friend bought himself a model 29 or 39, I can't remember which one but it;s a compact Glock in  .45 acp. He spent $250 to have the slide milled to accept this itty bitty red dot sight which he also paid big bucks for. He had a trigger job done to it. Out at the range he'd shoot and it'd lock open after a few shots. He sent it back to Glock. They, of course, took out the trigger job and replaced with with their crap again and said, all better. Back for a trigger job. bang, lock, bang, lock. etc. Out comes the trigger job and back to Glock who sends it back, all fine. That is when I ran into him out  at the range. We always shoot together so he asked me to shoot the gun. I do. Bang, bang, bang...lefty, righty, two-handed. bang, bang, bang! In my mind it shoots. Ugly but shoots. He takes it back and bang, locks open. He was calling it a jam. I watched and couldn't see anything he was doing wrong while standing on his right side, He was at his wits end and was saying howhe likes how it feels and carries and really does't want to get rid of it. I said, let me shoot it again and did. Bang, bang...he said wait! Why was my thumb low on the left side? I told him that's how I hold the  pistol. To make a long story a lil bit shorter his thumb was high up just under the slide lock and was pushing up in recoil, locking the pistol open. He lowered his thumb on the pistol and had no further issues.   However, there is one issue....   In an emergency we revert to how we practice. Just like the guy at the shop. 2 Glocks, 2 lock ups. I checked and there may be more instances, Another buddy's wife bought one and had jams/stovepipes which turned out to be limp wristing.  She finally worked her way out of that after a few thousand rounds.   I'll stick with my Colt .45acp. I've never limp wrested it and never will. I have not had it lock up through thousands of rounds. I keep it clean and oiled.   The point of this long winded post is what ever gun you have in your night stand or wherever, make sure that you can pick it up off a table or out of a drawer or bench at the range and shoot it with out malfunction. Every time. The best gun in the world won't help you if it goes "click" when you need it the most.   Lp 

As fat as I am, they probably don't make them in my size. I'm sure I could fashion one out of a tarp and a couple truck hoods.

  He's drier than an 80 year old vagina, but does manage to get it all down on tape.

I assume by "smart", you mean smart as in manufacturing John Browning's design.

I'm sorry, I just can't get worked up about Obama in regard to something that another government is doing. It makes no sense.

There is a silver lining to all of this with the bullet bozo's.   The next time you see one, smile and say. "It sure will be nice when you're dead and buried and I can buy up your .22LR ammo from your  widow for 25c a box. Ya'll have a nice day now".  :)   Lp

Yea I carry each time I boat and fish.  Those dudes in trucks by themselves with no boat and no fishing poles are spooky at the boat ramp!