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I forego the armor in lieu of dual wield pistols. You can only take so many attachments and perks so I prefer the extra firepower, since I'm more focused on getting the score streak. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Mobility, comfort, not wanting to look like a mall ninja.... Something along those lines.

[quote name="mikegideon" post="1105390" timestamp="1391391625"]Don't forget something to protect the cojones[/quote] Well of course. I double up the nut flap that hangs down from my body armor. Also put those side plates in, so I'm only lugging around an extra 45 lbs of armor. Problem is the kids complaining about wearing theirs everywhere they go, but I tell them, "where do you draw the line on safety, kids?" My son usually responds with, "wearing f'ng body armor everywhere we go, dad.... that is where I draw the f'ing line." Kids just don't get it I suppose. They'll learn to fear everything someday, I hope. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

I like the comments better than the article. This one in particular really shines:                                   

Mobility and comfort are my big things. A pistol is a defensive weapon. If I think I'm gonna need body armor, I'm probably gonna need a rifle. Tapatalk ate my spelling.

I will have to say it was nice of the Red Hot Chili Peppers to dedicate 'Give it Away' to Peyton Manning.

I think you're over thinking your next Wally World run...

Wow, its a crazy world with lots of crazy mixed up people. While my church has not addressed issues such as this they have not banned CCW. So at the very minimum I will always have my .380 on me.

Well guys, we can hold out hope. I'm here now and he is nowhere to be seen. Hopefully he is bedded down somewhere letting himself get better!

When I was with the Sher. Dept., we were required to wear one. Warm weather, they're HOT!!, rest of the time, they're tolerable, never comfortable. Wore one some in 'Nam, weighed a ton. Personally I don't care to wear one now, to each his own. Think I'd opt for taking ducking lessons. I took 5 hard hits in 'Nam, none of which hit anywhere near where a vest would cover.....just saying.

wow-- no punches pulled there...   http://www.armslist.com/posts/2643064/nashville-tennessee-ammo-for-sale--these-guys-are-the-reason-there-is-no-22lr   :cheers:

Wearing a vest and getting in a shoot out or even defending yourself... Your not going to fend very well in court. Good luck with that. If you need a vest or personally feel the need, you should be carrying a much bigger weapon than a pistol, and at that point, you probably have a lot more to worry about.

Best part of the game for me... [media]http://youtu.be/ln6Zif64kGM[/media]

You guys don't even know. I put an R type sticker on when I leave the house so I go 5mph faster and can dodge bullets and you'd never catch me. Flash Gordon's jealous.

I never use my grenades, so I will drop on of them and suicide to refill my ammo, no point in helping someone pad this kills.

Sorry you and your friend experienced an accident like that. Also don't worry about standing back while someone else helps. Moral support at times can be powerful medicine to the sick and injured. As far as first aid training goes, basic first aid is a good skill to have. You just never know when it will be needed, as you have learned. Put you a good first aid kit together and keep it handy while on your little camping trips. Always remember that a head wound will bleed like you've never seen!   Don't let all this eat you up my friend, things happen, need to deal with them as they do. Just look after your friend and let him know that you truly care about his injuries and his well being.   Dave

[ No, there were multiple people who called the police, so that suggests to me that it was more than one house.Besides that, who cares who the operator is or how old he is? If they were 8 or 80 I'm still shooting the f'ing thing down if it is peeping in my windows. Why is that amusing to you or anyone else that folks would have a problem with a PEEPING TOM? Do you have a wife and children? I can't see how anyone with a wife and kids would not see this as a huge deal.Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Sad; but thank God he only turned the weapon on himself instead of taking innocents with him. :(

Deer are very tough animals. Back in the summer I had a little buck walk through my back yard. His back leg was broken and every time he set it down it made a loud crunch. Several of my neighbors have seen him since and seems to be doing well. A deer would have to be real bad for me to "put it down".    I called TWRA last year and received permission to put down a small buck with a broken back. He was in a ditch and every time a vehicle passed he tried to pull himself into traffic. (because it was the only direction he could go) It's the only time I've killed a deer and felt bad about it.

Movies use to be something my wife and I went out to every weekend, then 1 mo, and now 1 year.  I use to think it was due to our small kids, but recently attending the Lone Survivor taught me it was the costs most likely, i.e. ~$30 just for 2 people, and that is sharing 1 coke and 1 popcorn plus the movie tickets.  I don't know how teenagers can even have a Friday night date anymore.    A good comparison is attendance to NASCAR races, NCAA football games, and possibly more.  I see and hear that venues like those and others are still challenged.  When I was in my 20s, I went to each and every Bristol race, Bush and Winston cup, and few at Atlanta and others.  I use to attend every home UT football game, and most other major events.  I find these still just as enjoyable, but just too expensive to attend.  I like my NASCAR, but on radio.  I like my UT football, but on radio or TV.  The others, I have faded away from.  I have to cut corners somehow, because everything is so high.  I also have cut satellite to cut costs  and thanks to work, I no longer have own my personal cell phone, I have theirs.    I don't trade cars as often as I use to, my truck is 12 years old, and my wifes van is approaching 6 years old.  We bought both new.  I sure do enjoy not having any car payments though, but I may have been on paid for coolaide for so long, I likely can never have a car payment again.  I realize I am no longer 20 years old, 30 for that fact.  I am in fact very close to 50.  So is it society in general that has changed, the industry maybe, or just my buying habits have changed due to my age?  I don't know.  I do think the 2008 like 1929 had a major effect on the psyche on people and money.  My grandmother was 10 when the great depression hit, but in her old age she was just so price conscious of everything and always had money stored up.  I once asked her why, and she said I will probably never know what hard times are, but anyone who lived through the great depression will always save money at every opportunity and store money.    I know I strayed from the OP, but I think there is more going on than just Hollywood changes. 

Amazing the ruckus an 8 yr old w Xmas present from radio shack can cause <ducks for cover> lol Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 of course it ate my spelling.

If there is somewhere that I feel I need a vest, then my defense is not to go there. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

I want one of these! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0-1Rx1NNDY

He mentioned in his SOTU speech last week of again closing Guantanamo. I should think that would be easy. Just dig a very large hole and then line them up against a wall and send all of them to collect their 71 virgins. Put them in the hole and cover it up and bring our troops home from Cuba. Problem solved................jmho

Y'all worry about all this technical crap...I'm watchin the cheerleaders!  :rofl:   I'm actually looking forward to watching Peyton do his thing. I'm no UT fan at all, but he is dang good. And Seahawks defense should up his level of "I'm gonna break y'all down". Should be a good game.

No one said anything about a peeping tom. No one posted or reported a good physical description of this felony drone in action. I've flown rc aircraft long before the contractors were hanging around rc flying fields in calif stealing ideas for what's in use in unmanned craft today. Shooting anything in a small neighborhood that scares someone that isn't in a life threatening situation, is a bad idea,and irresponsible. A hobby quad isn't life threatening. Guys used to lose rc planes when they had radio gear failures, an untrained eye would call it in as an airliner crash when they saw it going in. If your worried about anyone looking into your home, Close your shades. A complete stranger can stand on a sidewalk or street and shoot video of what they can see from that spot all day long without infringing on someone's curtilage. I think the story is funny as hell but sadly reminds me of when kids playing with firecrackers are called in as a drive by shooting with machine guns is happening now! To 911.... 8 year old kids fly these little electric quads like they're nothing, they're toys per my reference to age.Most adults would likely have a large more capable device at a designated flying field instead of a small neighborhood.. To quote a former president of the tn trial lawyers : Ignorance of the law is not a good defense but you best show me the law that says you can't. When you hear hoofbeats think horses not zebras.... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 of course it ate my spelling.

Christ! Are you the Terminator? I want to see a picture of you from Nam! How big were you? Built like a brick-####-house? :lol:

To quote Kevin Costner "some things naw at a man worse than dyin". Wearing body armor in a daily basis has to be up there. You ever think....well it's my time to go. You could live in the woods in a shack with no visible means of communication and I bet you won't get shot. Or you can carry on, be vigilant, carry a weapon and not take life so seriously.......Xanax might help too

I have one, it's all aces. And yep, 9mm feels about like .22mag through it. :) - OS

And it's groundhog day...

  Nooo!!! Think of the brillcreme and leather jackets!!!!

Sounds promising! Kudus to you for going back!   Dave

[quote name="theconstitutionrocks" post="1105133" timestamp="1391357454"]I generally tend to agree...if I'm going to be static in a confined area (ie movie theater...go figure) where cover or movement is limited or non-existant, then I'm wearing a vest. If I'm mobile, probably not, unless there is a significant potential threat...(going to recover the daughter and broken down car in the hood at 1 am in which case there is definitely a ..."WTF were you doing in this part of town at this hour..." ass chewing that is going to occur). With regard to being mobile, the tactical response in my view is get the hell out of the area first (it is NOT my job to move towards gunfire). If I can't do that, it is to take up a covered/concealed position which causes a "fatal funnel" for the bad guy and the element of suprise and oppportunity to shoot first, at fairly close range to ensure good shot placement and multiple hits (preferably the head) because I don't know if he is wearing body armor or not.[/quote] Body armor? Head shots?? I'm not being rude, but what kind of place do you live in? The world is a dangerous place, and carrying a firearm is just smart practice. But if you are in a place where you feel the need for body armor, then your gonna need a rifle. And head shots? I can't think of a single instructor I have ever heard in the civilian world or while I was in the Marines, that would advocate trying to get head shots. Especially using a pistol in a self defense situation. Tapatalk ate my spelling.

Any chance his leg was in a leg hold trap? Since he didn't move from the spot.

What I was intimating was that I believe Beretta is actually manufacturing guns here because of a story I read about a machining center they put in Accokeek Maryland. I also went through a CMM training class in Nashville with a young lady from Beretta that was checking manufactured parts. Unlike some others like Glock that I suspect are doing nothing but importing parts for assembly. But I don’t know that for sure about Glock because no one from there will answer the question as to whether or not they are manufacturing and no one that I have heard from has been inside the facility and would know what they are looking at.   “Beretta Maryland” or “Smyrna, Ga” for Glock has nothing to do with what the gun maker wants on the gun. It is the name of the importer as required by Federal law. If you look at a “Springfield XD” they will be marked “Made in Croatia” probably because that’s what the manufacturer (HK Produkt in Croatia) wanted. But they also say Genesco, Illinois because Springfield is the importer.

Both of my Beretta M9 pistols are marked as USA.  I'll be happy to see Beretta move to Tennessee or any state that isn't antigun.  I don't want the profit from my gun purchases going to a government that wants to take my guns.

Edit.  Never mind.

I don't blame you at all. I'm looking for a partner or two as well, but I'm looking on TGO and damn sure won't look at Craig's list. No telling what you may end up with!   Dave

That site looks like a scam for your info. Here is the site S&W and the NRA are linking to. https://apps.facebook.com/thenragiveaway/

The feed ramps of an M14 are much more "cast boolit" friendly than the Stoner design. Most of the m14's I've seen aren't too hard on brass either. Let couple of ar10's I've seen slings brass a ways.

different strokes for different folks.

Airsoft guns can be addictive.

Kinda like this? The bench on the right, by the window, i use to work on guns. The small bench beside it I use for .45-50 reloading. I keep an old separate Lee single stage press for bullet pulling and recapping. I have 7 removable heads with dies mounted for most of my reloading chores. 9mm, .45acp, .45 scholfield, .45LC, .308, .30-06, and 6.5-06. If you look at that old desk, it's made of laminated MDF, built 20 years ago and weighs 150 lbs. I have it one wheels. In fact, everything I have expect the .45-70 table is one wheels. I will be putting that on wheels, also. I have a couple of long workbenches, one steel, one wood, in the garage along with a couple of wheel mounted tool boxes, one for a milling machine. The second for a drill press. I also have an electric powered hack saw on wheels. I cal roll all of my shop equipment out to use and back to store. My 6" Atlas metal lathe is fixed to a 3rd bench. [url=http://s587.photobucket.com/user/ren1795/media/23_zps74ff05d0.jpeg.html][/URL] [url=http://s587.photobucket.com/user/ren1795/media/22_zps151daec0.jpeg.html][/URL] [url=http://s587.photobucket.com/user/ren1795/media/21_zpsb11a948b.jpeg.html][/URL]

[quote name="~48_South~" post="1104602" timestamp="1391263755"]Would be a risky move to say the least,if a person is flying fpv it would be extremely easy to prove he was innocent of any wrong doing since they are recording and could easily prove he was not spying(if he wasnt) add to that all units are equipped with gps and it makes it rather easy to find the location in which it went down and if you were caught or admit to destroying the quad you could easily be out of pocket for thousands just for the drone then throw in the legal fees and what not. I have family that owns several hundred acres with a big creek running right through the middle of their property,anyone can apparently come down the creek as they please and not be trespassing as long as they are in the water from what we've been told. I can imagine if they dont own the water that flows through their land you dont own the airspace above your property. I know FPV is a growing hobby,and is also being implemented by realtors as well to get images and videos of properties they are selling that couldnt be achieved any other way. Not saying I agree with it or dont,I just wouldnt shoot it down unless I was seriously concerned that the person operating it is infact up to no good and am confident enough that Im willing to bet several thousand dollars on it.[/quote] I'm okay with that. I don't need to ask a person what their intentions are if they're sitting in a parked car outside my house, looking through the windows with binoculars. Perhaps their intentions are pure, but I'm not taking the time to find that out; I'm just gonna make it stop. Same with a peeping Tom with a camera... even worse when you think about it. I don't know what he is recording, I just know he is over my property taking photos in an area I have a reasonable expectation of privacy for myself and my kids. Good luck finding 12 people who all agree I didn't act reasonably considering the circumstances. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

I have Stanley plans for a heavy duty workbench - 4x4 legs, 1-1/2 inch thick top.  Assembles with carriage bolts and can be disassembled for transport.  I've built 3 and I brought one with me when I moved.  Let me know if you want the plans.   If you want to be able to disassemble the bench, don't use glue in the leg/stretcher joints.  Anything you glue together ain't coming apart later.

As posted on another forum. Look how many rounds this guy is selling!   Yes, he and people like him are part of the problem. So are the buyers.   http://www.gunbroker.com/All/BI.aspx?IncludeSellers=2735131

Its sad that these grown men, have nothing else better to do with their time than to sit at walmart waiting on 22 ammo. I know i could count at least 10 other things i could be doing with my time.

  Well, I thought what you did so far would have made it 100%. But at least you're obviously on the right track.   - OS