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Had my ProTechs out yesterday and thought I would share a couple pics. Willis has caused an addiction and I've been looking for a meeting to go to. Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk

Gallatin Gun Club will host a 2-gun match on August 13th. You may shoot it as a true 2-gun match or pistol only. 6 stages, 102 pistol and 90 rifle. Special match fee is $15 for members, $20 for non-members. Set up will start after 4:00PM Friday afternoon and back at 7:00 AM Saturday morning. Start time will be 9:30.

My father lost a long battle with Parkinson's early this morning. He went at home surrounded by his family. We will never be able to express our love as much as we would like for our parents. We will miss dad greatly. He was an avid shooter and a great man. Ha taught me many needed lessons in life. Hug your parents today and tell them how much you love them. RIP Dad! You are at peace and the journey now begins anew.

15 yards, NO sight adjustment, that's a first for ANY pistols I've ever bought!! I'm gonna get this dirty Hog Huntin!!!!!!!!!!

I sold my only sub compact a few months ago & was left with nothing but full size or large compact handguns in my collection. Carrying full size hasn't been a problem, but I wanted something easier to conceal that would give more carry options. I used to own a LC9 (hammer fired). It was the perfect size, had great ergonomics, & a smooth trigger, but the long trigger pull affected my accuracy. I've been hearing a lot of positive things about the LC9S' trigger for a while now so I finally ordered one in "flat dark earth". After shooting it at the range I have to agree 100% with the positive reviews. The LC9S' trigger is at least 1 1/2 lbs lighter than the LC9 & about half the pull length. It's not fancy, but will fill an empty slot in my carry rotation.

Hmmm. Looks interesting. https://www.remington.com/handguns/model-1911-r1/1911-r1-10mm-hunter The R1 10mm Hunter Long Slide is a handgun built with the hunter in mind. From the extremely accurate 6” match-grade barrel, to the match quality fully adjustable sights, and VZ premium G10 grips, this pistol will get the job done at distance. The 10mm Hunter has the knockdown power and accuracy to be the perfect choice this hunting season. 6” Stainless Match-Grade Barrel - For superb accuracy Accessory Rail - For Light or Laser Attachments Wide Rear and Front Cocking Serrations - For positive grip regardless of field conditions LPA Fully Adjustable Match Sights - For precision shooting Extended Beavertail Grip Safety - For sure grip in the field Adjustable Skeletonized Trigger - For a clean crisp break Tough PVD DLC Finish - For durability in all conditions Operator II VZ G10 Grips - For solid hold while firing Two 8-Round Stainless Steel Magazines Stainless Steel Frame and Slide MSRP $1310 - a little surprised at that. Thought it would a little cheaper.

This is a Protech addiction:

Depends on how hard up you are for .22's. There one step above not having any ammo.

Nothing gun related but we celebrated our 23rd anniversary yesterday. I still can't believe she said yes. Neither can her family...

Love the carbine! I have the pistol version working toward the SBR status for it. Have my 922r kit and lots of mags for it. That new charging handle looks great. Not familiar with the trigger, but will check it out. Always like to see what other have done to theirs. And yes, welcome to Club CZ. Now get a couple of 75s and a Rami to round the collection out.

Putting this here since most references to TCA here seem to involve guns. Just noticed that it has been updated. This is second year in a row they've done it in early August, used to be Sept/Oct. - OS

It's difficult to find a better carry .380 than the little Keltec P3AT and its copies. Get a pocket holster and it can be with you no matter what you wear (except a Speedo :-( ).

The greatest feat of gunsmithery was convincing people that Glocks are 1911s and need to be customized to work more better. I can see stippling and cutting the slide for a RDS. I can even see added slide serrations if the end user needs them (I love checkered front strap on a 1911). But some of this stuff just seems to be for the chicks dig it factor.....and by chicks I mean dudes at the range who worry about what pants Costas is wearing this week.   They get good reports in the gun mags I read so good luck with your purchase.

Dave Wattenberg commented to me that the Godson has the smoothest action of all the Protechs. It's the smoothest one of all of mine. But, my new favorite is the Donkey...

How nice of you Robert to remember us Big Rig shooters! However, I reckon Matt-In-TN will have to carry the full-power flag for this match. While I will be shooting something in 7.62..., this one comes with a x39 case, a short barrel, a single chamber muzzle break...., and a tax stamp. Double Up on you hearing protection folks...., its going to be Loud!

We will use IMG RULES for this match. Plan on using the woods bay we created last month (stage 8) for the rifle steel. About 60 yards shooting at the MGM rifle poppers. Targets will be uspsa metric for pistol and the half size for rifle paper. Stage 2 is all pistol (32 rounds) with paper, 10 steel and a swinger. Stage 6 is all rifle. 6 paper and 6 rifle poppers. The other 4 is pistol/rifle using full size targets, half size targets, clays and steel. Heavy metal welcome, (Mark) Single shot scoring will apply. Stages 1 and 4 are 40 round stages, 20 per gun. Stages will be pistol only friendly. Only 5 stages for one gun match.

Looks like it will be about 102 pistol and 90 rifle. Of course that's if you don't have to have a make up shot.

I have a standard R1 I bought 6 years ago. Have taken several classes with it and shot it a great deal. Has been trouble free and reliable.

Great price. I'd have to take it for that too. Even if just to park it till I did something with it.

The Next TGO knife will be its little Brother the Godson

It's my favorite of the bunch. Keep waiting patiently for the Godson to come up as a TGO knife. Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk

just celebrated 59 this year yes i forgot it after being chewed royally for 30 minutes she admitted she forgot too. her sister reminded her and then called me but the chewing had me in the doghouse for a few

Relive the memories as often as possible, it's his gift to you! May he Rest in Peace and may you and yours find peace and joy in his life.

These days that IS cheap.

First timer and everyone is great and helpful Thank you to all I will be back

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/08/05/record-25984000-immigrants-employed-united-states-july/ Record 25,984,000 Immigrants Employed in the United States in July This was my "takeaway" from the article: "In recent years the immigrant population in the U.S. has been experiencing a more fruitful rate of job growth compared to native-born Americans. Since President Barack Obama took office, the civilian noninstitutional population of immigrants has grown by 6,304,000 and experienced a net job growth of 4,609,000. The native-born population has grown 12,579,000 and added 7,392,000." ALSO IN THE NEWS: http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/08/05/94333000-americans-labor-force-july/ 94,333,000 Americans Out of the Labor Force in July - (Down by a tiny fraction of 1 percent) "down 184,000 compared to the month prior." Many of the jobs available are low paying, part time, with no benefits. With literally millions of illegals here and more on the way, the American citizen will continue to suffer in the Jobs market by competition, low wages and lack of benefits. It's sad where we are headed, where the Liberals are taking us and the Conservatives are going along for the ride.

Great match as usual, thanks Ryan, Alan and the gang.

I want a 75 but he is selling me the P-07 for 250.00, hard to pass up I think.

I actually used the one from another thread, so you should get it. I did give me the discount. Thanks.

Good idea...maybe a sticky.... Carry friendly places need to be supported...

I welcome & respect your opinion. That keeps life interesting. A few of us went to the range a couple weeks ago & we enjoyed trying out each others firearms. In fact, while we were there, a young couple walked up & asked us about our handguns & some advice about firearm safety. It turned out they were newlyweds in their early 20's & it was their first trip to a range. He said he had only fired a gun once in his life & had just bought a SCCY & was bringing it to the range that evening to shoot it for the first time. By the time the range closed he got to try out my SIG P229, SR9, LC9S, my friends' Shield 40 & Colt AR15, & my dad's LCP. He said it was more fun than he ever expected & they were grateful we were willing to let him try so many guns. We all exchanged info & will probably get together again sometime.

I think it depends on the shooter's grip preference and hand sizing. For the wife she didn't seem to notice it, I couldn't stand it. That said, cz's willingness to sell a simple 5 min factory fix made it essentially a non issue.

I added the new trigger and spring kit from HB industries along with their charging handle. I love it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Glad your missus is okay. Stupid people continue to do stupid things and more often than not the innocent folks pay the price. Good luck with your insurance...or maybe just pay your deductible and move on.

As others said, the holster goes on the inside of your left leg. A boot or half boot that helps support it helps. A few days to get use to it. I would recommend a S&W J-frame or Ruger LCR over a Charter Arms. I carried a Model 36 S&W in an ankle holster for years. As far as hard to find on the Charter Arms; Buds has them in stock at a price you probably won’t find at your LGS. Every time I have ordered from them it has been at my LGS in 2-3 days.

Pistols of the 1960's and 1970's went through a transformational reliability revision in order to consistently work with available hollow point service ammunition. The same thing happened with the ammunition itself in order to make it function better in service pistols. All along the myth of the revolver being the better gun flourished. That changed with the Beretta 92, 3rd gen S&W's and Glock. The wheel gun could and frequently did lock up to the point it couldn't be put back into service in the field. You would have loved going through basic police school and firearms training with a revolver and seeing the examples of what could go wrong. Pocket and ankle carry subject a revolver to a lot more dust and grit then you'd realize unless you do so for several years and pay attention to the revolver (or pistols) condition.

You don't have to take my word for it. The owner of Rangemaster, Tom Givens, with nearly 40 YRS of teaching LEO at all levels including revolver only classes has seen them fail multiple times. That is just one reason the semiauto is the standard handgun now. All are mechanical devices and subject to failure .....big and small, that is why we practice malfunction drills. But with quality weapons and ammo the semiauto is more simplistic and reliable.

I only have one Rossi M92 and a Rossi 85 .38 spl. But I love the idea of the versatile .357 platform. I want another lever action. Here's my favorite! My dad engraved it and I've since added custom walnut hg and stock. Did a trigger/action job on it. Smooth as butter!

You better hope! I have only experienced maybe two revolver malfunctions. I had an ejector rod come unscrewed enough to cause it not to close. I have also experienced some crimp jump that caused the cylinder to bind. Both of these were easily fixed though.

Of course insurance is important, but if you haven't already you need to invest in a safe. To me that is a priority over insurance.

Everything is racist and makes me want one even more. F'ing pussy generation!

Wheel guns are NOT more reliable. You ever looked at the inside of one? Much like a watch........lots of small parts. When they lock up, they are really locked up. If you fall in the creek how is that wheel gun not going to get muddy too? In fact, you may be stuck up to your knees in mud and no way to access your gun. Quick swish in the water and most of your reliable autos should still be working. Now with that said, if you like your wheel gun you can keep your wheel gun (sound familiar?) Like others, I would carry another auto in same caliber like the 43, CM9 etc.

One thing is for sure. He has probably shot about everything in your safe and is bound to have a favorite and is already more than familiar with any one in the safe. It can be his first gun plus given to him by his father and can become an heirloom all at the same time..............jmho

I understand this one... The "attraction" to the glock 42 is, for me, at least; the fact that it is a bit bigger... It's easier for me to grip comfortably than our little sig 238... I like the "easy shootin" thing too... Especially for those of us who's hands are gettin a bit weaker (...mine are...)... It's like shootin a 22 ... The little pistola slips right down in the front pocket of my dungarees, khakis, or cargo shorts... It's slim, but the grip frame is about right for my larger hands... If ya are younger and have strong hands, the bigger pistolas make more sense... Age changes lots of things... I used to tote a lightweight commander 45ACP... leroy

TN_Nash_CC, this is for pocket carry, right? If so, the final limiting factor is thickness of the gun in its pocket holster, in my opinion. I'd recommend you look into making your own pocket holster out of gallon milk jug plastic and gaffer's tape (non-gluey duct tape that leaves no residue). I posted how to do this in a previous thread along with pics. I'll see if I can find it. EDITED: Here you go... I make my own pocket holsters using a one gallon water jug and gaffers tape. Here is a link to the process. http://www.thektog.org/forum/f87/milk-jug-pocket-holsters-256713/ The advantages of this for a pocket holster are... 1. They are super thin. If you want to hide something in your front pocket, the holster needs to be as thin as possible. 2. You can contour the holster to fit against your leg and to fit how you want it to fit in your pocket. I have some holsters that are longer so the gun presents higher in a really deep pocket. That is, the bottom inch or two is just pocket filler to raise the tiny gun higher in the pocket. 3. You can shape the "hook" so it becomes almost impossible for the holster to come out when you draw. I see this as a huge plus. I have to unholster the gun to remove the holster, but it can be pocketed with the weapon with no problem. 4. It's cheap... a roll of gaffers tape is $12 and the water jug is free or only a dollar if you don't have one available. You can use duct tape, but it looks awful, as you can see in the pictures in the above link. Gaffers tape doesn't leave a visible tape residue. Here's a pic from the above link showing a tiny KelTec P3-AT in a DeSantis and a Glock 26 in a milk jug holster. They are almost the same width! The P3-AT in the DeSantis holster is 1 3/16" wide... actually it's even wider until the sides are compressed in your pocket. The gun in the milk jug holster on the right is 1 5/16" wide, a barely noticeable difference in the pocket, but it's a Glock 26!

While at first blush I was tempted to place this into the Ammunition and Reloading forum, it seems to me that this is in actuality the better place for it. Often the subject of "stopping power" in a handgun comes up on other forums and in physical conversations. To be blunt, the notion of "stopping power" from a service / self-defense handgun cartridge as it is envisioned by the general public is non-existent and therefore should not be the primary factor when choosing a handgun for self-defense. It is my opinion and that of many others who know far more about the subjects than I do that you should chiefly choose a carry handgun based on how well you shoot it, how likely you are to carry it due to comfort / size / weight of the firearm, and how reliable the firearm will be. Without passing grades in these three areas, a handgun is in my opinion completely unsuitable for carry. You will see from the chart below that when comparing well-designed defensive ammunition, there are minimal differences in penetration depths and in temporary cavity effects. This photo was provided by Doug Carr. As you increase the diameter and mass of the bullet from 9mm / 357SIG, to .40SW, to .45ACP, more tissue will be crushed resulting in a larger permanent cavity. Also it should be noted that the larger bullets typical offer improved performance through "intermediate" barriers (clothing, vehicle and building construction, etc.). However it should also be noted that for some people, the benefits of the larger calibers is offset by the fact that a larger caliber typically begets a larger weapon frame which begets decreased ergonomics for the shooter depending on their physique. The photo provided above makes it obvious that NONE of the common service pistol calibers generate temporary wound cavities of sufficient size that it would cause significant permanent tissue damage. Refer to “Handgun Wounding Factors and Effectiveness” produced by the FBI FTU, as this remains the single best discussion of the wound ballistic requirements of handguns used for self-defense -- it is available at: http://www.amazon.co...94498334&sr=8-1 So too is the notion of "expansion" or recovered diameter used to support the preference for larger caliber handguns. As seen in the photo above, the bullets recovered from ballistic gelatin show that modern defensive cartridges in the different calibers exhibit similar expansion diameters. Keeping in mind that it is not the size of the hole going in that is as important as the depth of penetration and the amount of bleeding caused within that affects the effectiveness of the bullet, one can see that choosing a handgun solely on the basis of caliber ignores far more important factors. Primarily, you should choose the handgun for carry that: You are most likely to carry rather than leave at home You shoot the most accurately Offers the best reliability Summary: Caliber used as the basis for choosing a defensive handgun is, within reason, bull$#!%. All modern service calibers provided comparable performance and all of them offer generally poor incapacitation ability when compared to rifle calibers. Therefore, choose the gun that you shoot best, that you're most likely to have with you at all times, and that won't fail to operate when you need it the most. Source of much of the data contained within this thread: DocGKR on M4Carbine.net