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Correct. Glock decided to stick with tradition rather than suddenly make a firearm that looks like a river otter clutching a fish in its mouth. ;) What you need to think about for a moment is the advantage this gives to the gentleman who wishes to procure more than one firearm in his life without being nagged by his spouse. If they all look the same, that new gun is "the same one I've had for years honey". Pure genius. Here's a test: Question: Which of these Glocks have I owned for longer than a year? Answer: Why are you up my ass about this? It's the SAME gun you've seen me carry for months. Shouldn't you be ironing something??? :hat: Disclaimer: Not a trained marriage advisor. Proceed at own risk.

I've been around enough mean-spirited Chihuahuas in my life to be reasonably sure that the Spanish used to deploy them in packs of 12 to 24 as weapons, hurled across the top of castle walls via trebuchet.  Like little needle-toothedcluster bombs.

These are my killers in their natural environment. I had to put the one on the left, Maggie, to sleep a couple of weeks ago. My father died last year and I didn't shed a tear. I can't say that about Maggie... My male, in the center, is a loveable dick. If you happen to be on "his" couch, you're getting laid on. The girls, and me, just accept it. You can tell how thrilled Maggie is about it, though. BTW, you can't see it in the pic, but there is plenty of couch space for him to lay by himself. He does this in the bed too. I end up fighting for blanket with an 80lb Weim...

  Pits Bulls are the Glocks of the Dog world.  When you heard dog attacked, the media has brainwashed people so much that people immediately think pit bull.

I love pit bulls. I think that they are a breed that is unfortunately surrounded with lots of misinformation and poor handling. Some of that misinformation is in this thread.

Very cool. 4 rounds per crank... where am I gonna find 4 rounds of 22lr? :lol:

Little Jimmy Dickens was one of my fathers favorite singers as I was growing up. And like most of us here, at that time in my life I just could not stand to hear "that Opry stuff." Dad and I argued often over our musical differences.   And Little Jimmy was one of the bigger ones we disagreed over. I just absolutely hated his voice and style. But that was a long time ago. Shows how much I knew didn't it?   Dad and Mom knew one of the stage musicians on the Opry and got to go behind the curtain so to speak several times. So one Saturday morning they woke me up early to tell of having walked around with Wayne Rodgers, a stage guitarist, and meeting several people. One of whom was Little Jimmy Dickens.   They both raved about how nice he was to them. Took time to talk and asked about them as well. It really impressed them that he spent probably 20 minutes with them.   Of course, the fact that Wayne was president of Texas Boot Company at that time, and Dad ran the maintenance/repair divison for them, did help.   Wayne had met several of the big name stars at that time and had gotten western boots for many of them. That's how he got to play onstage. lol   Anyway, sorry I'm longwinded tonight, Tater asked Wayne for a pair of boots. Wayne told Jimmy that he needed to ask my dad about it as he actually did make the boots for Wayne's little bribery scheme.   The short of the tale is that dad got a kick out of making a pair for Tater and then got to go back and give them to him.   Little Jimmy Dickens gave them and many, many others enjoyment for a long, long time. He will be missed.   And like the Possum sang "...who's gonna fill their shoes"   In this case it will take an awful big man to fill Little Jimmy Dickens' shoes.

I think that we could surmise here that responsible dog ownership is very akin to responsible gun ownership. 

This one is around 11" OAL with a blade right around 5 7/8". It's made from 1/4" thick 1095 carbon steel professionally heat treated to a RC of 60. The scales are a combination of black G10 and red linen micarta with grey liners. It has two choils and an unsharpened swedge or false edge. I really like the ergonomics on this knife and as you see fits very well in a mans hand. It also has jimping along the spine just forward of the scales. I've applied mineral oil to the knife and haven't wiped it all off yet. That's why it's so shiny. The reason for the two choils is for more delicate or close up work and you can see how well the fingers fit.

  What you probably fail to grok is how securely he has the power to control what legislation gets to his desk, through Beth Harwell and other trusted sycophants. The House Finance Ways and Means committee is literally his personal graveyard for anything he actually opposes, regardless of what he says to the press.   - OS

That sir is what I call a dog pile. :)

Once while camping in the Western North Carolina mountains a local sheriffs deputy came by to check us out.  He was obviously very bored and asked us if we minded if he hung out at our fire for the remainder of his shift.  One thing led to another and eventually he got the breathalizer out and would guess where each of us was after giving us a field sobriety test.  I remember blowing a .06 and I was in no condition to drive, and I'm not a light weight by any means.  One of my coolest cop encounters.    

I had the opportunity to work with Tater last year. What a wonderful, funny, no nonsense man. It was an outdoor festival in eastern TN. There were a lot of young performers, the crowd was full of oddly colored hair and tattoos and piercings... NOT a Little Jimmy crowd. When he came out... all those youngsters ran to get as close as they could, and every song he sang, they knew every word and sang along. It was amazing. He looked over at me with a look of, "What the hell?" :rofl:   We were talking backstage at the Opry one night, and I had mentioned I wasn't sure that I was gonna get there earlier that night, because I'd had car trouble. He looked at me and said, "Son, if it's got tits or a motor, it's gonna give you trouble."   I will miss him greatly. Godspeed, Jimmy. You were the last of the breed.

January 2, 2015... TGO Logo Decals are once again available in the store. Will be ordering more once this batch runs out. Also once again available in the store are the "Shall Not Be Infringed" decals. http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/store/

My opinion basically echos others here that it has everything to do with upbringing and ownership. We have two Pit Rottweiler mixes, a Staffordshire and a couple other mutts. They would all rather snuggle than bite. If you have large breed dogs you must be a responsible owner with complete control of your dogs. Maintaining you are the leader is part of that. I also believe dogs can be like humans and some are just off. I think if you look into these incidents further there will be clues as to why it happened. It happens more with pits because of morons trying to make them more aggressive instead of actually working with and loving their dog. I've been around large dogs all my life. Been bitten by several other people's dogs. Worst was a neglected mutt. I truly believe it's 99% owners fault and the dogs are just dogs.

This old gal has a few more years on her than most women I am attracted to, but in only two short months she has become the love of my life. My wife actually gave her to me for my birthday (translation: she caught me sneaking her down the back steps to basement). 1952 Savage Model 99E in .308 Winchester.

I have a hard time keeping my pants up with half that much stuff. 

You guys must rattle like hell when you walk.

I have no use for under rails.  I really like a top rail for target/range guns so I can red-dot them if I want.   But lights and doo-dads don't fit me.  IMHO they should just drill it for a rail to be put on after, rather than build the ugly things onto the frame.  Make it easy to add if wanted, and not there if not wanted.

The Opry will never be the same. I'm not sure I've ever been there when he wasn't.   I liked the one he told about mowing his yard. He said a well to do lady stopped and asked how much he was charging to mow the lawn he was mowing. He told her the lady in this house lets me sleep with her! :rofl:

This is from a Tennessee DUI attorney website; but I am unsure of Tennessee laws. In the state I was in .08 was a legal presumption, but you could be charged down to .05 with supporting evidence. If you refuse, BAC will not be an issue and you will take the fall anyway.  

The following quote is one of the more powerful ones that she mentioned:      It came from the article named "A Nation of Cowards". It was a good read. I found it here: http://www.rkba.org/comment/cowards.html

I'm a big fan of the GSD. They make great working dogs and family members. I don't like small kids around large dogs unattended. When it comes to an animals prey drive, it's something that's under control until it isn't. I fall into the camp that believes that there are more bad owners than bad dogs.

I have been a pit owner /breeder and lover for 25 years.   These dogs need to be socialized  like every other dog breed.  If done properly , you cannot ask for a better pet and protector.  BUT.. chain them up.. never take them anywhere and dont teach them the basic/advanced commands.. They are and can be dangerous, in the hands of people who dont care about the breed except how it makes them look. And that goes for any breed..  The crap they are breeding now.. called Bullies.. are a sick version of the old bloodlines and dont even resemble anything a pit used to look like.We own a female who I would trust with anyone.. absolutly.. would I put her alone with her on the ground and leave my grandbaby  with her? no way.. ever.. because she is a dog and she has preydrive.. like any other dog. She is the sweetest dog in the world. her only fault is that she loves to sit on people and sing to them.. ..Now Gus on the other hand is a bit hestitant with others, and i am sure if we let him,. he would eat someone .. he is a good boy but way worse that any other dog we ever owned.. and he is  very well socialized.    Accident and maulings happen because of  the people who own them and have no clue how to raise a dog.. much less a Pit bull. And those statistics are wrong because not all dog bites get reported...

Pits have been bred to be what they are now. It's a shame. I have one and ride the fence on the matter. I side with the typical PB lover in that, they ARE very misunderstood. I don't side with PB lovers in that they are NOT always the lovable sweetheart. Pit Bulls are a 'Might Makes Right' dog. Works out fine for me, I feel the same way. If you're the kind of person who asks your dog to do something, pits are not for you. If you have ANY issue asserting your will and dominance, pits are not for you. MY pit will do ANYTHING I tell him to, inasmuch as he has the ability to understand. I love him and would fight over him any day. I do NOT ask him to do anything, I TELL him. I've been accused of being abusive because when I tell him to do something, I sound something akin to John Kreese. BUT, he minds, he respects me and he gets frequent belly rubs and crock pot deer ribs and neck meat, I ain't eatin' it but he loves it. We have a simple routine and he has it memorized. I let him out of the shop in mornings. He hangs out outside (fenced in yard) for the day and comes back in at night. He waits for me every morning and every evening. I can actually go through every ritual he and I have without some much as a word. I say all this but....I don't trust him. Not me mind you, others. I will bite him on the nose and dare him to give me a dirty look, but I don't trust him around others. He hates EVERYONE but me and my wife. I don't wanna sound hippy but it ain't his fault. He didn't ask to be the way he is. Fortunately for him, he got rescued while he was young and I gave him a good home and kept him outta trouble.

I have never owned a pit, but have been around them often enough to know a few things about them which goes for most large breeds. First, don't show fear or aggression, like any pack animal they may respond as an alpha to put you in your place. If they are your dog(s) you must always be the alpha, no matter what. While I never like to hurt any dog, sometimes a smack on the nose or backside is warranted. Not for the pain, which should be slight, but for the shock and admonishment. The largest dogs I have owned were rottweilers, and all have been the biggest babies around the family. My son, who was just crawling at the time would be hell on Duke my last rotty, but all Duke would do is sit or lay accross him. But I never left them alone, its just not wise, as even siblings get in fights. I think large breeds get a bad rap, mostly due to irresponsible owners. And due to their size, they cause more damage faster.

  I've witnessed ours run for his life, unsuccessfully on the hardwood floors for lack of traction I might add, on more than one occasion when a cabinet door was shut too loudly or a pot or pan fell onto the floor.  It's like watching a giraffe try to breakdance on a frozen pond.

I have owned three Dobermans in my life, my last one past a year and a half ago. I was a responsible dog owner, had control of my dog , and controlled who was around him at all times. I have little patience or sympathy for those that do not. The worst are those that allow their dogs to run free off their property. We shouldn't need laws to make them control their dogs, but obviously we do. Any dog can bite, but unless someone is breaking into your home or attacking you; it is your responsibility to make sure it doesn't happen and your liability if it does.

  My female is the exact same way. Hell, she is deathly afraid of a baby gate we have because if fell over once and made a loud noise.

  You obviously do not know anything about Dobermans.

"Squirrels 'n such." Hogs, deer.... Whatever I can get in my sights. I hunt cardboard terrorist with my 9mm Glocks so it's a easy slide over to a 10mm to hunt beasties.

I hate to reveal too much personal information about myself on these kinds of sites, but I will say that I've got a chihuahua mix that is easily one of the most loved dogs in Nashville. I've had him for 7 years or so. He's got 3 legs and is quite possibly the friendliest dog you will ever meet. He was a street dog for about a year and a half of his life and was found hit by a car. He had heart worms and didn't have a chance in hell of making it out of the operating room, but they took a chance and nursed him back to life. I picked up the bill for the treatment($1,000 is a lot when I was in college). The only marketable skill I have besides my job in music is working with animals, something I've done my entire life from volunteering as a kid at humane society shelters all the way up to my Nashville beginnings working at grooming facilities to make ends meet while building my music career. Dogs, very much like people, tend to surprise by destroying the stereotypes that define them.

At this point guys it might not make any sense for any one relative to own these, nonetheless split amongst an entire family. In today's economy the remaining Keith's could be facing any number of financial situations that would warrant a sale. If no other reason, as hard as it may be to believe, collectables like this live in a bubble. While Mr. Kieth has fans of all walks and ages, the bottom line is his strongest fan base is currently reaching into their retirement years with money to spend and a healthy enough interest in his stuff to do so. While these pieces will ALWAYS be sought after, the market for them likely won't get any stronger than it is right now barring a miraculous safe of the economy soon. I hope they bring top dollar and the former owners enjoy their new fortune and the new owners will at least let these pieces see the light of day for us pions to enjoy once in a while as well, if even from afar.

If Smith & Wesson management had any class they'd buy a few of them for display or some such thing.

The man died over 30 years ago.  If he had any kids I imagine they need some retirement money, hell even grandkids might need something to live off of in their golden years at this point.

I had a Chihuahua dashund mix growing up, I was the only one that could touch him. I joinedcthe air force and the dog took up with my dad, saw him years later and the dog triedcto take my arm off. Can't stand them little dogs. I don't own a dog, not because I don't like them, I'm too lazy to dig and put an invisible fence and can't stand having one in a cage or little pen, and I refuse to let one run loose.

I saved that pic - it may show up on one of my computers as wallpaper if you don't mind.

Sometimes that's for good reason. ;)

I've been looking at a CMT .308 upper/lower combo myself lately.  I know the last group buy took a lot of work on the part of our own MacGyver as well as Jeff Cross @ CMT so I am not going to let lack of a group buy stop me.  If we do a group buy later, I'll just have to make room in the safe for a second.  ;)

Another "don't care" here. At this point I have enough pistols with and without to cover any perceived needs. I don't think the presence or absence of a rail has ever been a part of my decision to purchase a gun. I think I have three semis without a rail, and the rest of them have it. This year I plan to add a 1911 to the family, and the models I have narrowed it down to do not have rails. I don't view my purchase of a 1911 to be a fighting gun, but a range toy and just another piece to add to the collection. Every should have at least one or ten, right?

I'm pretty sure the NRA convention is at the Music City Center.  Everyone come and invite all of their friends.  Nashville needs to pay for that blasted building WITHOUT raising my taxes to do so!!!

How about these? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87avuL4AZPo&feature=youtu.be

Things to remember about fly fishing   -80% of what you hear is BS and usually somoene trying to get you to buy something. -You dont need a 1000 dollar rig (trout dont care if you are casting a Orvis Helios 2 or a Pflueger from walmart) -you dont have to understand the 450 million different fly patterns to catch trout (you need to know about 5 drys and 3 nymphs and ONE midge) -you do need to understand at least what is hatching the time of the year you are fishing and to a certain extent and what size that bug is (a little entomology) -follow the  Curtis Creek Manifesto as JPS has stated (its so easy a 5 year old could do it) -Watch the movie Low and Clear and be like Xenie  -you dont have to be able to cast a perfect loop at 60 feet to catch fish -dont let your fly drag in the current -if you arent catching fish -- throw something SMALLER -Dont fish the same drift if your not catching fish .... you will continue not to catch fish (think of the definition of insane) -you need to learn 3 knots.... -ignore liberals who tell you to keep it low impact -- they dont catch many fish     buy Waders - stocking foot <-if you want to fish tailwaters or early and late in the year for creeks, if not wet wading will be fine mostly Boots - Felt (these are like driving 4x4s while wading, unless you are a commie, they will bitch about cross contamination, introducing invasive species of bugs and plants..if your a commie then wear vibram sole.. bust you a$$ and end your fly fishing career early...but hey, you didn't introduce any new bugs or plants to the area so its ok) Fly box Wading socks for wet wading Quick dry clothing rod and reel 5wt good all around for here (tfo has some good rods for cheap and they have lifetime unconditional warranties so when you break one swatting at a hornets nest they will replace no questions asked)   tippet and leaders 4x to 5x or 6x strength good all around for here   Terminology you need to know  Square Tails or Specs (often called brook trout or brookies by yankees ... but these are not trout at all...they are Char and are the only NATIVE species of so called Trout to the area) Brownies -- Brown Trout Bows -- Rainbow Trout F&&& me SOB MF...-- what comes out of your mouth when you wear Vibram and not Felt     Up to you but....... at least a 454 casull  (ruger alaskan will do) to carry as a sidearm for bears and banjos. <-- this is optional but highly recommended             that will about do it   :)    I fly fish all over east tn, southwest va and western nc about every weekend between feb and the end of october (anytime that isn't Duck Whacking time) and would be more than happy to help anyone who really WANTS to learn

"However, in a police report, she told responding officers she had warned Cahill to euthanize the dog because it was violent and unpredictable."   And there you go.

All of this is why I have cats..... If I am ever mauled to death by my cats..... it was just my time.

  Good post and I agree. I do have to ask though, would you even leave small kids alone in the room with your dogs? Like I said, my 2 dogs are awesome and have never shown aggression but I still wouldn't leave my toddler alone in the room. There have been too many cases where the family dogs have "snapped" and mauled kids. This covers all breeds.

My resolution is to live long enough to see 2016 celebrated. I seldom make any long range plans anymore so this is a stretch for me.... :up: :up: Normally any more than a week ahead is it for me. I will read the Bible more also....... :up: 

Read the Bible more.  Pray more.  Love on my family as much as I can.

You just HAD to poke the bear, huh? :)

Actually we got the best Christmas present we could ever ask for. Her name is Madalynn and she was here a little early for Christmas but a Christmas baby none the less. We could not be happier to have a grand daughter to spoil. Definitely changes the way you view life. My only Christmas wish is for our son to come home and met her next month. He has been deployed since July, and missed the birth, but he should be home within a month.